Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 5 hours ago

Hi, Ad, looks a bit jerky today pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

hi glenn pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Evenin’ (or afternoon or mornin’) PPO. Is Ad here yet? glenn 3 hours ago

How are you PPO? And your Fergie? glenn 3 hours ago

I see his avatar, but no chat as yet. Oops. now its gone …. back again! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hey Glenn! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hi PPO. AdLib 3 hours ago

Muttering along as usual, glenn. Ad, is Kalima OK? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

There you are, Ad! How goes it? Love the “new” site. Takes a little getting used to navigate around, but so far, I’m managing to find what I want. I do love all the new members. glenn 3 hours ago

same here, glenn and Ad. Great redo of the Planet pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Thanks Glenn! Yes, new is a learning curve. It is nice to have the new members, many great folks. AdLib 3 hours ago

Thanks PPO, glad you like it. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad, is Kalima OK – she’ll be away for a week or so pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hopefully, some new members will show up tonight. Be interesting to hear their take on the news. That doesn’t mean I won’t be perfectly happy to continue to chat with you and PPO. glenn 3 hours ago

New blood will be most welcome, but the old stuff still has a kick in it! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Can’t say. Just want Kalima back ASAP! AdLib 3 hours ago

PPO–Yeah, us old mules aren’t done kicking yet. glenn 3 hours ago

Same here, Ad. Just hope she’s ok medically. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Definitely Kalima will be missed. She is such a staple here on the Planet. glenn 3 hours ago

Well, where can I get patches make for my new yacht, the USS Bonespurs? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I think it will be a great mix for all of us. Has been so far. I like to think of everyone as being one cool community. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–Probably you can get them made in China. glenn 2 hours ago

Ad–Glad to be cool; I’ve never been cool before. glenn 2 hours ago

Trump will have a toilet named after him. And it will be broken. AdLib 2 hours ago

Well, if Yabberz is good enough for Murph, I’m totally happy they’ll come here. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO–Do you have two tiny hands on your yacht? glenn 2 hours ago

glenn- You have no idea how cool you really are! AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–I also joined Yabberz under Murph’s advice. It was a very lively place! glenn 2 hours ago

Ad–Awww, thanks.

glenn 2 hours ago

No, they’re regular crew size, but they suffer from button mushroom syndrome! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

What Ad said, glenn! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Indeed! That site is closing after today I believe so this works out well for all of us to have a new site together AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–So sad your crew suffers from BMS. glenn 2 hours ago

Hopefully it will be almost seamless for them to hop across. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO–still blushing from yours and Ad’s compliments.

glenn 2 hours ago


pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

So, are we more likely to impeach after Mueler’s speech? AdLib 2 hours ago

Mueller AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad–certainly seems as though the momentum is with the press and a lot of Dem congress critters. Still not sure about Pelosi, though. I did read an interesting opinion article today where the author thought that Pelosi “knows something we don’t know” and is just waiting to spring it on the lying bully. What do you think about the republican congress critters who are now calling for Mueller to testify before Congress? glenn 2 hours ago

Ad, hope so. Certainly looks as if the less patient reps are making moves in that direction. Look, we all know the Senate will scupper anything put forward, but publicizing the impeachment proceedings should keep trumps crimes front and centre up to the election pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

glenn, I think that the Thugs want him testifying so they can spin his replies to their slanted questions pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Dems need to grow some spine (I’m trying to keep it clean tonight), and start some kind of hearings soon, even if they’re not impeachment hearings. Just start something, and quit dicking around. glenn 2 hours ago

spot on, g pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO–For sure that’s what they want, but I don’t think Mueller will “bite” on that. As far as I can see from Mueller, “Homey don’t play that game.” glenn 2 hours ago

I’m getting a bit frustrated with the Dem double talk to avoid impeachment. Their fear of the unknown is cowardly IMO. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad–couldn’t agree more. I think that they are losing more voters, especially Dem voters, than they are gaining by all this foot dragging. glenn 2 hours ago

maybe, glenn, but are the thugs clever enough to see that? Ad, I’m starting to agree. Not good optics for the Dems pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Also, because the cycle of news changes so rapidly lately, I may have missed it. Have Barr and the other “subpoenees” testified before Congress yet? Also, whatever happened with the Dems’ threat to read the Mueller report out loud in the House, so it could go in the Congressional record? glenn 2 hours ago

PPO – Yes, some Dems have tunnelvision and aren’t getting that impeachment hearings televised will impress the view of Trump as a criminal no matter what The Senate does. AdLib 2 hours ago

Donnie Deutsch on Morning Joe said this morning that Dems should stop calling them impeachment hearings, and start calling them criminal hearings, which is actually what they are. glenn 2 hours ago

chaser.com.au has just twetted a hilarious shot of Trump being bundled off stage by the USSS after one of them spotted a man with a photo of John McCain! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO–LOL! glenn 2 hours ago

I don’t believe that Pelosi has some other good reason for not impeaching. This is what she did with Bush’s criminality too. Wouldn’t impeach. She just wants to keep the political dynamics as they are today and fears impeachment could change it. She is a true establishment conservative in this area. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–The next picture they should show him is AOC! He’ll run like a scared rabbit! glenn 2 hours ago

Ad–Pelosi is definitely being wrong-headed about this, IMO. She needs to get the hearings started, whether or not they call them “impeachment” hearings. All she needs to do is take what Mueller handed her on a silver platter, and run with it. Run carefully, so she doesn’t spill it, but run! glenn 2 hours ago

Could the Japan visit have been any more cringe-worthy? USS Wasp patches, USS John S McCain hidden, Trumps awkwardness around people with impeccable manners guffawing behind his yuge rear? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Trump, a man who fell in love with a guy who executes his own representative. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO–Every time I think the lying bully can’t embarrass us any more, he manages to embarrass us more! Also what about all that nonsense about “Bidan”? glenn 2 hours ago

I think he meant Borat! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Think how jealous Trump is of Kim, “How come I don’t get to kill my aides?” AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–Yeah, you just can’t help with whom you fall in love, though, can you? glenn 2 hours ago

Don’t give him ideas, ad, FFS! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad–yeah, the lying bully would love that power, wouldn’t he? glenn 2 hours ago

Yep, Trump would love to hold executions, I’d guess. AdLib 2 hours ago

Is there no way to curb McConnell NOW? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

What do you all think of the chances of McConnell’s Dem opponent beating him? glenn 2 hours ago

Nope, just like Trump, he’s a virtual king and the GOP just act like pawns. AdLib 2 hours ago

Well, whether he personally gets reelected is moot, if the Dems win back the Senate. Je won’t be MajLdr then pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO–true, but what are the chances of the Dems winning back the Senate? Especially, if Pelosi continues to drag her feet on impeachment. glenn 2 hours ago

glenn, don’t know. but hopes run high. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Most Americans are seeing Pelosi’s reluctance to impeach as just another example of Washington swampiness and frankly, I just don’t get it. Most Americans want to see someone standing up for the Constitution, the rule of law, and certainly for the middle class, and Pelosi’s foot dragging is becoming old and stale, IMO. glenn 2 hours ago

I am sick and tired of the WH ignoring court orders and defying everyone, and getting away with it! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Which translates to people lumping Dems into the same category as repubs–out for the politics, rather than what is good for the country. glenn 2 hours ago

PPO–Exactly! I still can’t believe that the Dems aren’t calling the Sergeant at Arms to arrest these damn people! glenn 2 hours ago

Can we please jail Mnuchin and Barr for contempt? AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad–I’ll help, if you ask me nicely. glenn 2 hours ago

… and KKKushner. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

And fine them $25k a day? Dems are so gutless sometimes. AdLib 2 hours ago

Garnishee their salaries and revoke their security clearances. They are not to be trusted pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad–Yup. $25K a day from the time they were supposed to testify. The gutlessness of the Dems is what is going to give the lying bully another win, IMO. glenn 2 hours ago

I think McConnell would LEE in a fair election in KY. I’m just not confident they have fair elections in KY. AdLib 2 hours ago

Dammit, I want to be alive to see Trump do the perp walk, or at least frogmarched out of the WH. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Lose…Damn spellcheck! AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, yes…. that fair bit! HMmm pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

It’s already been documented that Barr lied to Congress. He gave the completely opposite answer in an interview than he did when testifying before Congress. Where in hell is the Dem outrage over that? glenn 2 hours ago

glenn, …. but her emails!! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Perpwalk party in 2021! AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, I’d fly to Washington to see that! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Then can we demolish Trump Tower? Like the Saddam statue? AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–If Dems don’t get their act together, it’s never going to happen. Even if Dems do impeach, and the Senate refuses to convict, I think the Dem nom should have a good shot at keeping the lying bully’s criminality in the public view. Keep reading those charges, day in and day out. And keep reminding people that if we had a Dem Senate, the lying bully would have been convicted. With all that being said, I’ll settle for the lying bully losing the election, too. glenn 2 hours ago

Murph! glenn 2 hours ago

Murph! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Hello gang……no newbies….not surprised….Vox is a Wine one must grow to appreciate. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad–I like the idea of demolishing the trump tower. Let’s take his name off all of his buildings, too. glenn 2 hours ago

Ad, just rename it John McCain Tower pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph–Don’t know about VOX growing on one. I loved it from the first time I came here. Maybe we need to talk it up more! glenn 2 hours ago

Glenn – You have no idea what a hard sell it is to anti-impeach Dems to get through to them on that. They’re locked into impeachment being suicide for Dems. But none of them can give a good case for why. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–Or Barack and Michelle Obama Place. glenn 2 hours ago

glenn, didn’t one of the pharaohs do that to another – wipe his enemy’s name from all statues, buildings history? I like it! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Poor Ad seems to be popping up and down. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad–Some of these Dems are being as cowardly as the repub congress critters. They need to take the politics out of it, and convince people (and themselves) that the lying bully has committed crimes, period. Dammit, if a blowjob is grounds for impeachment, then certainly the lying bully’s crimes are. glenn 2 hours ago

If Dems want to win back the Senate, they’re going to have to show more steel than they are now’ pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO–Sounds like that pharaoh had the right idea. glenn 2 hours ago

PPO–For sure. Dems have to give people a reason to vote for them, and cowardice is not a reason. glenn 2 hours ago

Lord, who would want to live or work in any edifice with the name Trump on it? Iraland will nnot be rolling out much green carpet for the prick as he transits to France next week, Big protests planned pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I think the model for impeachment is Watergate. A consensus had to be established in the Democratic Party rank and file before articles of impeachment could be passed. At the same time some in the GOP had to be won over to the necessity of the articles of impeachment and the trial to follow with the Senate standing ready to convict. Anything else is a fools errand and will be turned against the party proposing it. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO–I’m looking forward to seeing the bloated balloon on the news again. glenn 2 hours ago

The British, poor loves, have to put up with HM actually talking to him. Love the Meme of HM asking Melania if she’s on an hourly rate! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Of note….as in the current moment…..the Nixon Watergate Congress, the 93rd had a Dem House and a GOP Senate. Nixon was counting on that Senate to hold the line. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–I disagree somewhat with your analysis. Dems need to make repubs own their reasons why they aren’t going to convict a man who has committed obstruction of justice. Dems also need to make the case with the American people so we can get a Dem Senate in place. glenn 2 hours ago

I’m back. AdLib 2 hours ago

However, Murph, I do understand the historical precedence that you’re citing. It’s just that we have such a partisan political climate that I’m not sure Dems can convince enough repubs to convict. glenn 2 hours ago

Glenn…your argument is from principle…mine is from politics. If the Dems impeach without their own party members in support and enough GOP to make a conviction possible, the victory will be Pyrhic. . MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Glenn…then the effort will play right into the hands of a GOP that has chosen to rise or fall with Trump. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–I know what you’re saying, which is Pelosi’s argument in a nutshell. Do you think there are that many Dems who are against impeachment? glenn 2 hours ago

Well, folks, I’m away. Hope to see some new faces next week , not that you gus n gals aren’t good comany! Cheers for now pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Glenn the polling shows that mosts Dems oppose it. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph, we can’t follow the Watergate model because of the timing, elections only 18 months away, and Trump’s total stonewalling has frozen out regular hearings. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–yeah, yeah, I know. But, dammit, I want the lying bully to be held accountable! glenn 2 hours ago

Murph–polling of Congress or polling of the public? glenn 2 hours ago

Oops, missed PPO leaving again! glenn 2 hours ago

Ad…I stand by my position…without the kind of support from its base that Trump has from his, the Dems will set themselves up for a fall….I am all for open an inquiry and using it as a means to build the consensus and turn enough GOP to make it a plausible recourse. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–sigh…in my rational mind, I know you’re correct. In my black heart, I want the lying bully TAKEN DOWN! glenn 2 hours ago

The public. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Do not put it past Trump to provoke just the kind of gut reaction you are having right now more widely. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph–Then Pelosi needs to being hearings NOW. She also needs to stand by the subpoenas the House has already issued, and start some sort of consequences for the people ignoring them. glenn 2 hours ago

Murph–Yeah, he provoked that gut reaction the day he stood on that podium and mocked that disabled reporter. glenn 2 hours ago

With all that being said, I’m going to check out for tonight. Gotta keep my blood pressure down. Nice chatting with you all, as usual. Have a good weekend, and I’ll see you next week. glenn 2 hours ago

Glenn…Pelosi is one of the best strategists to have ever swung the gavel….I am going to follow her timing. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Most Dems oppose what? AdLib 2 hours ago

Impeachment proceedings. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Bye Glenn! AdLib 2 hours ago

Just us. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

That’s not the poll I saw. It showed a majority supported impeachment or continued investigations, which is also impeachment. AdLib 2 hours ago

Yep. I had an emergency come up, on my cell. AdLib 2 hours ago

Impeachment….is the act of passing articles of impeachment….when you impeach you present charges. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Inquire, investigate, pursue…..all we want but until we have a critical mass in our own party, the pols will not follow….and then we need enough in the other party to make a conviction at least possible if not plausible. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Our new emailing system failed to send out notifications of recent posts including for VOX so people didn’t know. I was working on getting emails out when I had to leave. AdLib 2 hours ago

So I killed that email app and was trying to migrate to the old one. AdLib an hour ago

Ouch. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Oh well, they’ll just come next week. AdLib an hour ago

Plenty of time. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I am heading to bed my friend. Burning too many candles at too many ends. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Night pal, get some rest after a week well done. AdLib an hour ago

Same to you as you carried the lion’s share. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

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