Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 4 hours ago
see u soon
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
but its still early!!
Harleigh

2 hours ago
A little early!
AdLib 2 hours ago
But I’m here!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib an hour ago
HEY!!
Harleigh

an hour ago
Sorry I missed you earlier! Happy New Year!
AdLib an hour ago
What another strange week huh… his dementia is getting worse by the day!!
Harleigh

an hour ago
Have to say, it begins with a bit less stress, with Pelosi and Dems in charge of the House.
AdLib an hour ago
I really wouldn’t be surprised or upset if Trump gets a stroke.
AdLib an hour ago
they’ll push spanky over the edge from the house.
Harleigh

an hour ago
The investigations are already starting, impeachment is already filed for and Trump is being nailed for a worsening shut down.
AdLib an hour ago
Mueller? Where are ya?
AdLib an hour ago
emouluments…. laundering….etc. HAHAHA
Harleigh

an hour ago
Now that Dems own The House, Mueller can drop his report anytime. I am anxious for the suits against Whitaker to get decided and Rosenstein to be back in full charge for at least a window of time while Mueller releases his report and indicts Trump and his family.
AdLib an hour ago
Don Jr. knows he’s getting indicted. If Mueller indicts Trump too, then any pardon would automatically be obstruction of justice and corrupt. So many ways to nail Trump, he’s got to know that when he’s beaten in 2020, he’s going to be indicted. Wonder what his plan for then is?
AdLib an hour ago
this is way more serious and more fun than watergate
Harleigh

an hour ago
Watergate is like a small section of what Trump is facing. The Russian theft of Dem emails is similar but Trump has a waterfall of charges on top of that!
AdLib an hour ago
Happy New Year, everyone!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
spanky just ain’t up for it… the General has a big dumb mouth…. who talks like that really
Harleigh

an hour ago
And the NY AG is going to pull Trump and his criminal enterprise down!
AdLib an hour ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib an hour ago
Harleigh – It’s all collapsing in on him and the Repubs. Look how McConnell has hidden inside his shell and can’t be found now!
AdLib an hour ago
Mueller has extended the grand jury time for up to 6 months. Something brewing, certainly
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO – That doesn’t mean there won’t be indictments within the next month or so, just that there are even bigger indictments, hopefully against Trump, in the works.
AdLib an hour ago
there’s like 4 states gonna hang his ass and just wait until his charity case is filed…
Harleigh

an hour ago
Can’t wait till #Individual1 becomes #Defendant1 !
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
hey PPO!!
Harleigh

an hour ago
harleigh!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
The charity case leads to tax fraud/evasion and probably money laundering. That’s enough to go after Trump’s cash big time! Take his wealth away, that will destroy him.
AdLib an hour ago
it includes his kids too
Harleigh

an hour ago
Can’t wait for Individual 1 to become Inmate 157829.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad, won’t lawyers try to stretch it out for years?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Hey FD!
AdLib an hour ago
Hey peeps! Que pasa?
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
FD!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
FD!! DUDE!!
Harleigh

an hour ago
PPO – Yes, at great expense to Trump. And add all the other civil and criminal trials against the Trump crime family! Bankrupt them!
AdLib an hour ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib an hour ago
How is everybody here in 2019 on a Friday evening?
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Happy New Year to all!
glenn

an hour ago
Are we all more optimistic this week? I certainly am
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Hey Glenn!!
Harleigh

an hour ago
Hi glenn.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Nice start for 2019, a happier new year thanks to voters!
AdLib an hour ago
Hey Ad, Harleigh, FD, and PPO.
glenn

an hour ago
Happy New Year glenn, may it be the year of the women. It’s your turn.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
but Rudy is the lead lawyer… 2 week trials max LMAO
Harleigh

an hour ago
FD–Woo-hoo! About time!
glenn

an hour ago
Did you see Tucker Carlson attack women for working and taking jobs men could have? This guy wants to be canceled!
AdLib an hour ago
mistrials due to incompetent lawyers
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Heaven knows women can’t possibly fuck things up as badly as we men have, for centuries!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Rudy is just a PR drone for Trump, he’s not handling any of the actual cases.
AdLib an hour ago
Love the Lady-locker-room talk!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ad–And isn’t drug use and crime up in areas where women work? Something like that, according to tuck the suck.
glenn

an hour ago
And Rudy will need a lawyer himself!
AdLib an hour ago
I was thrilled to see all the lterally hundreds of women winning as dems nationwide in all venues. GOOD.
Harleigh

an hour ago
I just came from an active thread about that Ad. That’s the dumbest horshit I’ve heard in a while, and that’s really saying something.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
glenn – Next, he’ll probably claim women are terrorists and carrying polio.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO–Yeah, that’s one tough lady! Or at least that’s what they would say if a man said what she did.
glenn

an hour ago
Be careful what you wish for glenn!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Harleigh–finally, at least part of Congress is beginning to look like the rest of America. Which is why all the old, white men are scared shitless!
glenn

an hour ago
FD – We know that the Fox News audience are mostly racists and misogynists but to basically come out and say it so openly? No wonder they’re losing advertisers and MSNBC has surpassed them in ratings. They’re going down with Trump.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–Yup. Or that if wasn’t for women, we wouldn’t have any men! /s/
glenn

an hour ago
Yep, and of course cited “social science experts (which he failed to name) as his source. Funny how the right just loves science…when it suits their agenda.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
FD–you mean wishing women were in power?
glenn

an hour ago
Ad, not soon enough. Fuckers like Tucker and floozies like Ingraham need to be off air altogether
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ain’t it amusing what prudes Repubs are when a Democratic Woman uses a “curse word”? Trump called African countries “shithole countries”, said “fuck” many times in the campaign and cheered on Nazis after they ran down and murdered an innocent woman. What’s obscene again?
AdLib an hour ago
the women that got elected were voted in by men and women…. it was not a 1 sided deal at all. gobsmacked about Ortiz…. like wow
Harleigh

an hour ago
Harleigh – that dance video attempt sure backfired mightily!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
No, wanting to take on the huge pile of troubles we face. but I think women will do far better than men have. We’ve been fucking things up right royal, for centuries on end.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Harleigh–I love, love, love how Ortiz triggers repubs, and then beats them at their own “game” on twitter.
glenn

an hour ago
FD – That’s what Trump and Fox morons always say, “Experts have said”, “I’ve heard from top people that”…none of these “experts” ever have names.
AdLib an hour ago
FD, hate to burst bubble, but there’s still McConnell and his toxic Senate
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO – At least Ingraham has lost her radio show. Her tv show is next along with MotherTucker.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO–and where, pray tell, was McConnell in the situation room meeting today?
glenn

an hour ago
Dunno g. Didn’t see today’s stuff yet
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
FD–okay, got it. Hey, we can’t do any worse! Especially since the age of the lying bully!
glenn

an hour ago
Ad, I’ve been in and around the recovery community for three decades now, and I never once heard an alcoholic of heroin addict blame economic disparity for their addictions. It’s total and complete paranoid propaganda, like someone said, will eat it up with a spoon. Especially those misanthropic Incels!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Repubs don’t know how to destroy AOC because she isn’t a criminal and hypocrite like them so they attack her dancing??? Previously they tried to claim she was secretly wealthy. So lame!!!
AdLib an hour ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib an hour ago
he repubes look at Ortiz like just some dumb female spic. She’s gonna tear those moron fucks up. he is educated, smart, savy with a good crew and beat an imcumant with a machine.
Harleigh

an hour ago
Hey Murph!
glenn

an hour ago
Murph!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
for now P, for now!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
FD,
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Harleigh–republicans could never deal with strong, intelligent women. But they have nothing on Ortiz, and she just keeps handing them their asses!
glenn

an hour ago
PPO – But if McConnell thinks he has power, why is he hiding now during the shutdown? McConnell fears the 2020 election and that he will lose the majority AND maybe even his seat. His approvals are in the 30s.
AdLib an hour ago
she is….
Harleigh

an hour ago
Howdy All……what a nice day we have had in the House for the last two days……I called the Speaker’s Office yesterday to congratulate Speaker Pelosi. The woman who answered thanked me and asked what state I was from. When I told she was a bit stunned. I told her that even in ultrared Misery there are men who look to women for prudent leadership.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Saw the cowardly Ryan slink off to ignominy without the courtesy of handing the gavel to the most powerful woman in the USA
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
hey murph!!
Harleigh

an hour ago
glenn – It’s like watching people from the 1950s trying to take Ortiz down! “She dances to the devil’s music!” Really?
AdLib an hour ago
That’s because she’s smart glenn, and more courageous than they’ve ever been, or will be. She’s also GENUINE!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
McConnell is 9 points behind Trump in favorability in his home state. Rock and a hard place.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Ad–awww, poor McConnell. Not to worry, he can live off his wife’s salary as Transportation Secretary. At least she’s getting paid.
glenn

an hour ago
Footloose AOC!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Congressperson Footloose! Has a nice ring
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Murph–what a nice gesture.
glenn

an hour ago
Glenn…yes and his wife is getting a big raise……exempted from the shutdown……in the next few days.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I like it P!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Hey Murph!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Glenn…I was proud to do it. I am proud of Nancy and all of the women, AND men in the House who made yesterday so special and so hopeful. Small minded Trump tried to grab the spotlight with his “presser” show…..no one was impressed.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Mitch McConnell least popular senator, poll shows. He’s at around 30% approval. McConnell is running scared and he should. Repubs had a huge advantage in The Senate in the 2018 election and they only won 2 seats!
AdLib an hour ago
FD and Harleigh….Howdy!
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
PPO–Not only is Pelosi the most powerful woman in the USA, she’s third in line to the presidency! Take that, repubs. Yeah, and cowardly lyin’ ryan not even hanging around to watch/preside over the peaceful transition of power. Talk about lack of civility!
glenn

an hour ago
45 is getting worse. Good
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
spot on, glenn
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Oh P, he’s getting more bonkers by the day. What a frickin lunatic!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
And Ryan could have been a guest of the House and offered his congratulations. Of course, one would have to be a real man to do such a thing.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I’m hoping and prayin Ortiz does not become a shrieking shrew but keeps offering solutions…. not that I’m ever skeptical…. but the dance video and her response to those rediculous faux outrage puts her toward the top of my chart.
Harleigh

an hour ago
Murph–it does look as though fewer and fewer people are “impressed” with trump.
glenn

an hour ago
Pence must be rubbing his little hands for when Mother lets him do Presidential impersonations
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Harleigh–even if Ortiz does become a “shrieking shrew”, she can never out-shrew Lindsay Graham.
glenn

an hour ago
What did you all think of the Romney WAPO editorial…..planting his flag on McCain’s ground, making a play for 2020, or just getting back a bit of his own?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Lady Lindsey drives me crazy.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Ryan went out as the biggest failure as Speaker and he has to know that.
AdLib an hour ago
and the otange retard isn’t going to get his wall. That’s the proverbial straw that will break the backs of his supporters. He’s got them so convinced we absolutely need them to keep those nasty immigrants from raping their daughters, mothers…and fathers, yep father rapers too, are coming, if the wall ain’t bilt.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
PPO–did you see his face yesterday when he had to swear in the first openly bisexual member of Congress on a law book, no less. That was priceless!
glenn

an hour ago
Flipper is irrelevant, even in the destroyed GOP. Non event for Pretzel
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
hink about this…. look how far spanky has declined since his invisible airplane and elton john speeches. whoa doggies!!
Harleigh

an hour ago
S/O to Arlo Guthrie!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Ortiz is high energy and fearless. She may make some minor missteps here and there but I think she will help drive and energize Progressive issues in Congress.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad..yes and Ryan’s successor in his home district has largely snubbed him as well. I wonder who will pay him to just be a bit of a decoration in a think tank. “The Ayn Rand Scholar”.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
H!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Murph–I thought romney’s editorial was pissing against the wind. He said nothing; and he will vote with the lying bully and the republicans every time. His time is over.
glenn

an hour ago
glenn, absolutely cringe personified. Hee Hee
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
don’t forget, Mittens is Mr. 47%.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Murph – Romney is suych a phony, he backed down the very next day and got in line behind Trump on wanting the wall. Romney was and is a lying sack, only looking better in comparison (to some) with Trump.
AdLib an hour ago
glenn it was a constitution book thingy…. the real stuff and not the buybull. this woman seems to be for real too.
Harleigh

an hour ago
Leopards don’t change their spots.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
FD. The poor buggers seem to forget that their every word is on video somewhere.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
FD – I don’t know that anything breaks the back of Trump cultists but many could be discouraged.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–and Ryan didn’t even have the civility, common courtesy, decency to hand over the gavel. What a coward!
glenn

an hour ago
Another uppity woman made Pence swear her in with thomas jefferson old KORAN!! fuckin priceless.
Harleigh

an hour ago
for realz P. They have also become emboldened by the orange anus to the point of their on detriment.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Ad, wait until their Gummint subsidies and Social programs dry up. No one else to blame anymore.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
FD – And personally, I don’t think even most of Trump’s cultists believe all the fear mongering, they just parrot him and claim they agree because they are cultists who support Trump because he is a racist who appeals to their racism.
AdLib an hour ago
Harleigh–yeah, I like her too. She was proud and tall when standing opposite pinched-face pence.
glenn

an hour ago
harleigh pure genius to do that. Poke him in the politest possible way.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
That too Ad.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Murph – I don’t think any Repubs will want to be seen with Ryan who only looks like a spineless loser.
AdLib an hour ago
70 percent of those so called gubmint freebies go to white people that are mostly trumpf supporters.
Harleigh

an hour ago
6 of some/half dozen of the other.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
How are those soy bean farmers now?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Okay, folks, here comes my cynicism again. How many of you think the longer the shutdown goes on, the more chance there is that Dems will cave? Not because they’re weak, but because they want government workers to be able to pay their bills, feed their children, and keep their houses?
glenn

an hour ago
Yesterday at the Greyhound Bus Terminal (saying so long to some guests) I got a chance to speak with a fine young man, a marine in language school (learning the two major tongues in Afghanistan for a tour there). Hispanic. Parents from Mexico. One a citizen, the other a year off. Own a bodega in one of St. Louis’ predominately Hispanic neighborhoods. Salt of the earth. Loves America. Loves Mexico. Hates Trump….big time. He was present for a Trump Visit at Paris Island where Trump compared his experience at the New York Military Academy with their experiences. They were polite but generally silent. Disdain.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Harleigh–love those uppity women!
glenn

an hour ago
FD – Saw a tweet that said something to the effect of, “Some people are nostalgic for when the top Repub was only against 47% of the country.”
AdLib an hour ago
glenn, that’s not a cave. It is proper government for the people.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Murph–but according to the latest polls, the military loves the lying bully…..
glenn

an hour ago
PPO….as one who lives in a state where Soy is a principal cash crop…..disaster, disaster, disaster….and the farmers just do not know how to react.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Oooo, burn! I like it!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
they will not cave or Ortiz and our women will raise holy fucking hell… Pelosi has a plan and they dare not start pushing on her
Harleigh

an hour ago
glenn – So true! Ryan always was a fraud and a coward and being so cowardly not to pass the gavel humiliates him further.
AdLib an hour ago
They sort of have to, glenn. At least publicly. I’d like to conduct a more personal survey!
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
PPO–yes, I know it is. But you know how the repubs are going to frame it.
glenn

an hour ago
Murph, the GOP will now scream for the Dems to dig the farmers out of Trump’s hole!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
I agree….no caving….the GOP is already feeling the heat…..there will be some face saving that Trump can point to but anyone who knows anything will put a pin into that balloon. A prick for a prick.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph–perhaps you could just give them a little nudge as how to react. You know, don’t vote republican in any election.
glenn

an hour ago
Pelosi has tump’s number, big time. She knows what makes him tick and how his money and power addled mind works.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Glenn…what polls re. the military are those…..of course Marines, especially Hispanic Marines, may have a special distaste for him.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
FD hope she and shumer keep the pressure on, while still taking care of business elsewhere, unlike the other lot!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO – It’s already happening, the damage that the shutdown is doing is magnifying. What makes me angry though are all the pundits saying, “When it gets bad enough, both sides will have to come together and compromise.” What??? No! Trump asks for something outrageous, it’s not Dems who will ever be wrong for opposing something mostly outrageous.
AdLib an hour ago
Oh, I think they will.
Fuzzy Dunlop

an hour ago
Glenn…those blinders are still firmly in place….there may come a time when I can offer such a nudge but not yet.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Harleigh–I really hope you’re correct. But Dems actually care about people, and repubs care about their agenda. And, the lying bully has been getting away with this shit for all of his life. Stiff contractors, tie them up in court for years and years, then “settle” for pennies on the dollar. He’s gotten away with it all his life; what makes this time different?
glenn

an hour ago
Murph, where is the soy lobby? Surely they have a huge voice?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ad….if the Dems can get the Dreamers off the hook along with a pull back on the outrageous abuses at the border……some money for border security is ok by me.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
glenn _ It is legit to be concerned that Dems could cave but Pelosi has siad flat out, “We will not vote for a wall.” If she whips Dems to do so, it would be very damaging to her.
AdLib an hour ago
the house can now supena any records they want… trumpf will have more shit coming at him than he can dish out of his’big dumb mouth’.
Harleigh

an hour ago
Murph – And those in the military see Trump smearing their generals, many in the military are turning against Trump.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad. I think so……
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Ad. True. Trump has to come into line. His threat to keep the shutdown going will backfire on him when his own support is destitute.
pinkpantheroz

44 minutes ago
Murph – As the soy farmers suffer, they know only one thing to do. Mindlessly blame Dems.
AdLib 44 minutes ago
I am watching Joy Reid interview Nancy Pelosi…two impressive women.
MurphTheSurf3

44 minutes ago
H, they’re going to make his tax returns public. I think that’s what trump is so frightened of. Nobody works that had to keep something from the public if it’s above board. Trump is so screwed, and it’s about time.
Fuzzy Dunlop

44 minutes ago
I love Joy!
Fuzzy Dunlop

43 minutes ago
Ad….the filters of anger, fear, hate, are powerful indeed.
MurphTheSurf3

43 minutes ago
Murph–Nearly 6 in 10 military veterans voted for Republican candidates in the November midterm elections, and a similar majority had positive views of President Donald Trump’s leadership. But women, the fastest growing demographic group in the military, are defying that vote trend. That’s according to AP VoteCast, a nationwide survey of more than 115,000 midterm voters — including more than 4,000 current and former service members — conducted for The Associated Press by NORC at the University of Chicago. It found that veterans overall approved of Trump’s job performance, showing high support for the president’s handling of border security and his efforts to make the U.S. safer from terrorism.

glenn

43 minutes ago
glenn. Ignorance is bliss…
pinkpantheroz

42 minutes ago
Murph – Dems are for border security, that shouldn’t be a synonym for “the wall”. Dems can’t give money for any kind of wall Trump describes…but I think they should give him a way out by saying they will support a “high tech wall”.
AdLib 42 minutes ago
Glenn…not surprised at the “vets”. For those in uniform right now….the experience is a souring one.
MurphTheSurf3

42 minutes ago
No concrete or steel slats, just tech,
AdLib 42 minutes ago
Ad….that would be a good solution.
MurphTheSurf3

42 minutes ago
Ad didn’t dems already co-approve money for border maintenance?
pinkpantheroz

42 minutes ago
Murph–the Dems have already given the lying bully “some money”. Most of it has not been spent; plus they offered a little over 1 billion; the lying bully refused it.
glenn

42 minutes ago
Oh man, every time trump hears the phrase “steel slats,” he wets his Depends!
Fuzzy Dunlop

42 minutes ago
Glenn…I know this..a difference will be that oversight will expose such practices.
MurphTheSurf3

41 minutes ago
Murph – I still see the Trump cult as the end result of 40 years of the GOP hammering on racism as their power.
AdLib 41 minutes ago
FD….and eats a half dozen big macs….with a diet coke.
MurphTheSurf3

41 minutes ago
Murph–yeah, considering that most of the vets are elderly, white men, it’s not surprising.
glenn

40 minutes ago
Ad….begin with the Nixonian GOP Southern Strategy and where we are now makes horrifying sense.
MurphTheSurf3

40 minutes ago
Murph, I keep hoping trump will get a Big Mac Attack, as in, a major coronary.
Fuzzy Dunlop

40 minutes ago
Glenn…yes.
MurphTheSurf3

40 minutes ago
bingo murph
Harleigh

40 minutes ago
Remember Red Fox as Sanford? Hoping for the “Big One!”
MurphTheSurf3

40 minutes ago
I’m comin Ivana!
Fuzzy Dunlop

39 minutes ago
I wonder if his upcoming medial will end up in his having to resign for ‘medical reasons’? Face saving way out.
pinkpantheroz

39 minutes ago
Murph–“Elizabeth, I’m coming to join you!”
glenn

39 minutes ago
PPO – Yep, Dems just passed $1.3 billion that includes border security and fixing fencing. This is what Trump and McConnell say they wont agree to.
AdLib 39 minutes ago
Hoping for a massive karmattack and drops like bretfart did… painfully in the street.
Harleigh

38 minutes ago
PPO–that’s assuming he wants a “way out”. I think he’s enjoying his twitter reign too much right now.
glenn

38 minutes ago
LOL FD
Harleigh

38 minutes ago
I hope a stray dog pisses on him, just for good measure.
Fuzzy Dunlop

38 minutes ago
Have any of you seen “Vice”- its flawed but still a devastating portrayal of the GOP….I wonder what film opportunities exist in playing Trump?
MurphTheSurf3

38 minutes ago
Death is a “way out.”
MurphTheSurf3

37 minutes ago
Murph–Alex Baldwin?
glenn

37 minutes ago
Murph – Yep, that’s what I’m referring to. Since Johnson pushed and signed the Civil Rights Act and Nixon ran on the Southern Strategy. This is the net result, ignorant white people whose racism wasn’t extinguished since then but had gasoline thrown on it.
AdLib 37 minutes ago
Oh, It has to be Alec Baldwin, but in a slightly toned down portrayal.
Fuzzy Dunlop

37 minutes ago
Murph – Yes, I’ve seen Vice. Christian Bale is invisible, an amazing performance as Cheney!
AdLib 36 minutes ago
Ad–I will never, in a million years, how people who lost a war, can be so damn proud of losing!
glenn

36 minutes ago
FD. NO! No more publicity for this bastard.
pinkpantheroz

35 minutes ago
I gotta check that out.
Fuzzy Dunlop

35 minutes ago
Yeah, you’re right P!
Fuzzy Dunlop

35 minutes ago
PPO–which bastard? Baldwin or the lying bully?
glenn

35 minutes ago
I think it has to be a true portrayal of a demented sick old fat fuck.
Harleigh

35 minutes ago
45
pinkpantheroz

35 minutes ago
Pelosi is attacking Medicare For All and praising the ACA as better. Reminder, DNC take in a lot of money from insurance companies.
AdLib 35 minutes ago
They should have John Waters direct, or David Lynch!
Fuzzy Dunlop

34 minutes ago
Why not Tarantino? Blodbath!!!
pinkpantheroz

34 minutes ago
I think there’s a method to her madness, Ad. But then again, you may be right.
Fuzzy Dunlop

34 minutes ago
Ad–this is where the newer members of Congress, especially those like Cortiz, may do some pushing back on Pelosi. I can understand Pelosi’s stance on the ACA, though. After all, she’s the one who presided over and got the votes for it.
glenn

34 minutes ago
glenn – I think the shame that racists in the South (only some folks there are) can only deal with the proof of white superiority being a failure, with denial.
AdLib 33 minutes ago
Not creepy enough, P.
Fuzzy Dunlop

33 minutes ago
ACA has to be reinforced first…..
MurphTheSurf3

33 minutes ago
Clever of her to spread the policies arou nd and not concentrate on just 45
pinkpantheroz

33 minutes ago
PPO–ooh, Tarantino with orange hair would probably look just like the lying bully! LOL!
glenn

33 minutes ago
Man, what a dreadful sight that would be, glenn.
Fuzzy Dunlop

32 minutes ago
Ad–yeah, some of the pictures I see lately of the lying bully’s supporters, certainly “prove” that white superiority thingy!
glenn

32 minutes ago
FD–maybe not as dreadful as the original!
glenn

31 minutes ago
FD – I’m not upset with Pelosi for taking the corporate position on healthcare, I know what her background is and a number of paid-for Dems. They’re not ideal but right now we all have to pull together and win our positions within the Dem party without using politics of destruction and negativity. I totally disagree with Pelosi on this and will support those who support “Medicare For All” but she’s a leader of our team.
AdLib 31 minutes ago
Good point, G!
Fuzzy Dunlop

31 minutes ago
ACA can’t get fixed with this senate but I have been in health insurance for years and the medicare model from most of our 36 allies that many got thr idea from us is the only way to go
Harleigh

31 minutes ago
I can tell you that enthusiasm for Trump is definitely on the decline here in Mo…..there is a feeling that he is all they have but that he is not measuring up to his promises.
MurphTheSurf3

31 minutes ago
glenn, that’s the problem, when art cannot come close to imitating life!
pinkpantheroz

31 minutes ago
glenn – Exactly, Progressives like Ortiz are among those who could push Medicare For All over the top with undecided Dems, they deserve the support from Progressives.
AdLib 30 minutes ago
Absolutely Ad. BTW, I got my Medicare card in the mail a few weeks ago. Yep, I’m an old fuck!
Fuzzy Dunlop

29 minutes ago
Yes Murph, fixing the ACA should be the path forward on Medicare For All but unlike Pelosi, I don’t think that’s the endgame.
AdLib 29 minutes ago
So, Ad, how do you support those who support Medicare for all, without it turning into a Dem civil war with Pelosi supporting the ACA?
glenn

29 minutes ago
7000 plus lies and broke all his promises… how stupid does one have to be to trust or believe him
Harleigh

28 minutes ago
200k more ACA members as VA joined in. Too many Americans in it for anyone, including extremist judges, to take it away without a literal revolution happening.
AdLib 28 minutes ago
FD–oh, please, I’ve had my Medicare card for 5 years! You’re just a “young’un”.
glenn

28 minutes ago
I think a better question would be, how HATEFUL?
Fuzzy Dunlop

28 minutes ago
5 years here….
Harleigh

27 minutes ago
a basket of venality!
Fuzzy Dunlop

27 minutes ago
Harleigh and FD–well, I think the lying bully’s supporters have shown us how hateful they can be. The question is, how low can they go?
glenn

27 minutes ago
Damn, I thought I had reached fogeyhood already!
Fuzzy Dunlop

26 minutes ago
Congrats FD! I want it to be there for me when it’s my turn! Don’t forget, the plan by Ryan and McConnell, if they won in 2018 and kept Congress Repub, was to slash SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Only one party to vote for if people want to keep the safetry net in place.
AdLib 26 minutes ago
Harleigh:
glenn

26 minutes ago
I was at Pasta House today for lunch…a crowded restaurant…..in the middle of rural Mo. My table was all “libs” and we were enthusiastic so our pro-Dem conversation was easily heard…..for the first time in my memory…..no pushback from other tables.
MurphTheSurf3

26 minutes ago
glenn, they haven’t hit bottom yet, sad to say. And we may never get to it
pinkpantheroz

26 minutes ago
No doubt Ad!
Fuzzy Dunlop

26 minutes ago
PPO–As long as the lying bully is in office, he will just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper, so there never will be a bottom.
glenn

25 minutes ago
true, g
pinkpantheroz

25 minutes ago
Trump is going to lose this Wall fight, and then he’ll lose his base. They don’t give a rat’s ass if he shoots someone, but they want that wall.
Fuzzy Dunlop

25 minutes ago
medicare ans SS are not paid for out of general fund tax dollars and had trillions in the funds until bush/cheney
Harleigh

25 minutes ago
glenn – I think that Progressives should come out to say that they support Pelosi and corporate Dems in fixing the ACA but that they will fight to take the next step from that to get Medicare For All in place. Progs can win in the battle of support from the Dem base without trashing Pelosi and corporate Dems.
AdLib 25 minutes ago
Murph–yeah, they’re not quite so smug any more.
glenn

25 minutes ago
Ad….good Med 4 All strategy.
MurphTheSurf3

24 minutes ago
Ad–okay, sounds good to me. I think Pelosi deserves all of our support; and I hope she continues to kick the lying bully’s ass.
glenn

24 minutes ago
Well, gents, this old lady is wearing out. Take care, everyone, and hope to see you all next week. G’nite.
glenn

23 minutes ago
Murph – Very interesting to hear that. Especially in the aftermath of the 2018 rout by Dems and Trump’s lunacy coming faster and more unhinged, only the most deluded cultists could be energized at this point.
AdLib 23 minutes ago
med for all saves over 3/4 trillion per year in premium and overhead excess charges….. next up…. drug prices
Harleigh

23 minutes ago
Sweet dreams G!
Fuzzy Dunlop

23 minutes ago
Night glenn! Have a great weekend!
AdLib 23 minutes ago
nite glenn
Harleigh

23 minutes ago
Trump’s mother was walked over (and a bit of a trophy too)….Trump has no idea how to work with women as a equal….Pelosis is poison for him.
MurphTheSurf3

23 minutes ago
I think it’s about time for me to do the same. Night all, and Happy New Year!
Fuzzy Dunlop

22 minutes ago
Bye Glenn
MurphTheSurf3

22 minutes ago
nite fd…
Harleigh

22 minutes ago
Sorry, folks, but I have to head out. Thank God today is only 75. yeaterday was 107.6! Have a great 2019 all.
pinkpantheroz

22 minutes ago
FD…checking out….pleasant dreams.
MurphTheSurf3

22 minutes ago
PPO heading for the door…..so soon….well, have a cool day.
MurphTheSurf3

21 minutes ago
nite folks!!
Harleigh

21 minutes ago
glenn – Yep, right now, Dems need to be pragmatic. Progressives can’t expect to get all or nothing right now and I don’t think they will. They have moved the needle already and they will continue to do so. Many Prog issues are being supported including Climate Change and election reform.
AdLib 21 minutes ago
And there goes Harleigh…..the beer must have run out.
MurphTheSurf3

21 minutes ago
Wow, lotta folks headed out at once!
AdLib 21 minutes ago
Well Ad…just me and you.
MurphTheSurf3

21 minutes ago
Yep!
AdLib 20 minutes ago
Something I said?
MurphTheSurf3

20 minutes ago
Heh! Maybe my cologne?
AdLib 20 minutes ago
So maybe the new Senator out there in MO could be in legal trouble?
AdLib 20 minutes ago
What did you think of Vice? The skip over of Cheney’s role in the first Iraq War seemed to me to be a major hole….says a lot why he wanted a round two to get Hussein….Daddy Bush and Stormin Norman overruled him.
MurphTheSurf3

19 minutes ago
Ad…he is such an arrogant shit….I truly hope so.
MurphTheSurf3

19 minutes ago
And how about Trump’s position on the wall? It’s mostly built, Mexico is paying for it, $5 billion is needed from Americans and it doesn’t need to be a concrete wall. Huh?
AdLib 19 minutes ago
And it’s not a “shutdown”, it’s a “strike”.
AdLib 18 minutes ago
And the wall can be built by declaring a national emergency?
AdLib 18 minutes ago
I don’t think so!
AdLib 18 minutes ago
Trump’s Wall….Trumpty Dumpty Sat on the Wall…and we know what happened next.
MurphTheSurf3

18 minutes ago
Murph – Yes, I thought there were a variety of things skimmed over in Vice, it was a flawed film despite the great Bale performance. And some of Cheney’s biggest evil statements were passed over.
AdLib 16 minutes ago
Finishing watching Pelosi with Reid. She is full of energy.
MurphTheSurf3

16 minutes ago
Trumpty Dumpty will take a big fall.
AdLib 16 minutes ago
I saw the film in a theater in a very affluent area…….I wish I could have taken a poll regarding how it was received.
MurphTheSurf3

15 minutes ago
Yes, nice to see Pelosi full of fire! Dems are not cooling off about taking on Trump.
AdLib 15 minutes ago
I felt it was a little superficial in some ways. And hit the nail on the head a bit here and there. But I liked it.
AdLib 14 minutes ago
A woman friend is now the head of the Dem Party in my county. I was part of the group that supported her and insisted on the party here taking “the risk”. She is already doing a bang up job.
MurphTheSurf3

14 minutes ago
“Vice” did capture the “gestalt” of the Cheney years…..among the things I missed was the Bush decision to have Cheney vacate his WH office and the end of the daily lunches in his last two years. Daddy Bush warned him and he did not listen.
MurphTheSurf3

12 minutes ago
Very cool! It sure feels like the enthusiasm hasn’t subsided for Dems and that Repub energy is continuing to wane. Especially with the stock market becoming uneasy and The House Dems coming for Trump’s head and those in his admin.
AdLib 12 minutes ago
Yep, I don’t think we saw the real bitterness Bush ended up feeling towards Cheney after he finally realized Cheney had stolen so much of his power.
AdLib 11 minutes ago
Our new chair is a high school principal and very respected….she is presenting herself as a champion for education and for children.
MurphTheSurf3

11 minutes ago
Stolen his power and led him down a disastrous path.
MurphTheSurf3

10 minutes ago
Yes, I think the dynamics and evolution of the Cheney/Bush relationship could have been used to expose much of the story but Bush seemed a bit missing here and there.
AdLib 9 minutes ago
There was a lot to cover, I just don’t know that trying to show things from Cheney’s POV was ideal because it trivialized Bush a bit.
AdLib 7 minutes ago
My understanding is that George HW Bush did not want Cheney near W…..he had soured to him because of the way he opposed the end of hostilities in Iraq…he wanted to take down Hussein and create an Arab/Muslim Israeli state.
MurphTheSurf3

7 minutes ago
Ad. Agree. Still W Bush is a very trivial man.
MurphTheSurf3

7 minutes ago
Did you see the Obama Tweet that he would stand with “us” in the growing opposition to the GOP and Trump?
MurphTheSurf3

6 minutes ago
Eventually, Bush realized what a disaster and power grabber Cheney was but Bush was “The Decider” and his role as an inscure partner with Cheney, was key and could have been explored in a fuller way. Many of us saw Cheney as the true president and Bush as a weak pawn but Bush’s realization is very dramatic.
AdLib 5 minutes ago
No, what was Obama referring to? Impeachment?
AdLib 5 minutes ago
Ad…yes. Decider led by the “chider”.
MurphTheSurf3

4 minutes ago
Obama was reacting to Nancy’s election….
MurphTheSurf3

4 minutes ago
It wasn’t a film about Bush but he was co-dependent and made Cheney powerful.
AdLib 4 minutes ago
Agreed.
MurphTheSurf3

4 minutes ago
Oh, well I’m very happy for Obama to be as visible as possible.
AdLib 3 minutes ago
Time for me to head for the door as well. Ending on an Obama moment is a good place to exit.
MurphTheSurf3

3 minutes ago
But I think in 6 months or so, we’ll have new Dems carrying the torch.
AdLib 2 minutes ago
Those running for president.
AdLib 2 minutes ago
I hope that the Dems don’t beat each other senseless in the run up to 2020.
MurphTheSurf3

2 minutes ago
Okay, get some rest this weekend! Easier with less stress thanks to the electiion results and Pelosi and Dems in charge!
AdLib 2 minutes ago
Good night……rest sounds good.
MurphTheSurf3

a minute ago
I think Dems are going to be too preoccupied with running against Trump insanity.
AdLib a minute ago
Ad…that would be good.
MurphTheSurf3

a minute ago
Yep, Trump’s going to be the main target!
AdLib a few seconds ago

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