Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib4 hours ago
see u soon
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
but its still early!!
Harleigh
2 hours ago
A little early!
AdLib2 hours ago
But I’m here!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLiban hour ago
HEY!!
Harleigh
an hour ago
Sorry I missed you earlier! Happy New Year!
AdLiban hour ago
What another strange week huh… his dementia is getting worse by the day!!
Harleigh
an hour ago
Have to say, it begins with a bit less stress, with Pelosi and Dems in charge of the House.
AdLiban hour ago
I really wouldn’t be surprised or upset if Trump gets a stroke.
AdLiban hour ago
they’ll push spanky over the edge from the house.
Harleigh
an hour ago
The investigations are already starting, impeachment is already filed for and Trump is being nailed for a worsening shut down.
AdLiban hour ago
Mueller? Where are ya?
AdLiban hour ago
emouluments…. laundering….etc. HAHAHA
Harleigh
an hour ago
Now that Dems own The House, Mueller can drop his report anytime. I am anxious for the suits against Whitaker to get decided and Rosenstein to be back in full charge for at least a window of time while Mueller releases his report and indicts Trump and his family.
AdLiban hour ago
Don Jr. knows he’s getting indicted. If Mueller indicts Trump too, then any pardon would automatically be obstruction of justice and corrupt. So many ways to nail Trump, he’s got to know that when he’s beaten in 2020, he’s going to be indicted. Wonder what his plan for then is?
AdLiban hour ago
this is way more serious and more fun than watergate
Harleigh
an hour ago
Watergate is like a small section of what Trump is facing. The Russian theft of Dem emails is similar but Trump has a waterfall of charges on top of that!
AdLiban hour ago
Happy New Year, everyone!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
spanky just ain’t up for it… the General has a big dumb mouth…. who talks like that really
Harleigh
an hour ago
And the NY AG is going to pull Trump and his criminal enterprise down!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey PPO!
AdLiban hour ago
Harleigh – It’s all collapsing in on him and the Repubs. Look how McConnell has hidden inside his shell and can’t be found now!
AdLiban hour ago
Mueller has extended the grand jury time for up to 6 months. Something brewing, certainly
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – That doesn’t mean there won’t be indictments within the next month or so, just that there are even bigger indictments, hopefully against Trump, in the works.
AdLiban hour ago
there’s like 4 states gonna hang his ass and just wait until his charity case is filed…
Harleigh
an hour ago
Can’t wait till #Individual1 becomes #Defendant1 !
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
hey PPO!!
Harleigh
an hour ago
harleigh!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
The charity case leads to tax fraud/evasion and probably money laundering. That’s enough to go after Trump’s cash big time! Take his wealth away, that will destroy him.
AdLiban hour ago
it includes his kids too
Harleigh
an hour ago
Can’t wait for Individual 1 to become Inmate 157829.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, won’t lawyers try to stretch it out for years?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hey FD!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey peeps! Que pasa?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD!! DUDE!!
Harleigh
an hour ago
PPO – Yes, at great expense to Trump. And add all the other civil and criminal trials against the Trump crime family! Bankrupt them!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey glenn!
AdLiban hour ago
How is everybody here in 2019 on a Friday evening?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Happy New Year to all!
glenn
an hour ago
Are we all more optimistic this week? I certainly am
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hey Glenn!!
Harleigh
an hour ago
Hi glenn.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Nice start for 2019, a happier new year thanks to voters!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Ad, Harleigh, FD, and PPO.
glenn
an hour ago
Happy New Year glenn, may it be the year of the women. It’s your turn.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
but Rudy is the lead lawyer… 2 week trials max LMAO
Harleigh
an hour ago
FD–Woo-hoo! About time!
glenn
an hour ago
Did you see Tucker Carlson attack women for working and taking jobs men could have? This guy wants to be canceled!
AdLiban hour ago
mistrials due to incompetent lawyers
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Heaven knows women can’t possibly fuck things up as badly as we men have, for centuries!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Rudy is just a PR drone for Trump, he’s not handling any of the actual cases.
AdLiban hour ago
Love the Lady-locker-room talk!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–And isn’t drug use and crime up in areas where women work? Something like that, according to tuck the suck.
glenn
an hour ago
And Rudy will need a lawyer himself!
AdLiban hour ago
I was thrilled to see all the lterally hundreds of women winning as dems nationwide in all venues. GOOD.
Harleigh
an hour ago
I just came from an active thread about that Ad. That’s the dumbest horshit I’ve heard in a while, and that’s really saying something.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – Next, he’ll probably claim women are terrorists and carrying polio.
AdLiban hour ago
PPO–Yeah, that’s one tough lady! Or at least that’s what they would say if a man said what she did.
glenn
an hour ago
Be careful what you wish for glenn!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Harleigh–finally, at least part of Congress is beginning to look like the rest of America. Which is why all the old, white men are scared shitless!
glenn
an hour ago
FD – We know that the Fox News audience are mostly racists and misogynists but to basically come out and say it so openly? No wonder they’re losing advertisers and MSNBC has surpassed them in ratings. They’re going down with Trump.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–Yup. Or that if wasn’t for women, we wouldn’t have any men! /s/
glenn
an hour ago
Yep, and of course cited “social science experts (which he failed to name) as his source. Funny how the right just loves science…when it suits their agenda.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD–you mean wishing women were in power?
glenn
an hour ago
Ad, not soon enough. Fuckers like Tucker and floozies like Ingraham need to be off air altogether
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ain’t it amusing what prudes Repubs are when a Democratic Woman uses a “curse word”? Trump called African countries “shithole countries”, said “fuck” many times in the campaign and cheered on Nazis after they ran down and murdered an innocent woman. What’s obscene again?
AdLiban hour ago
the women that got elected were voted in by men and women…. it was not a 1 sided deal at all. gobsmacked about Ortiz…. like wow
Harleigh
an hour ago
Harleigh – that dance video attempt sure backfired mightily!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
No, wanting to take on the huge pile of troubles we face. but I think women will do far better than men have. We’ve been fucking things up right royal, for centuries on end.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Harleigh–I love, love, love how Ortiz triggers repubs, and then beats them at their own “game” on twitter.
glenn
an hour ago
FD – That’s what Trump and Fox morons always say, “Experts have said”, “I’ve heard from top people that”…none of these “experts” ever have names.
AdLiban hour ago
FD, hate to burst bubble, but there’s still McConnell and his toxic Senate
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – At least Ingraham has lost her radio show. Her tv show is next along with MotherTucker.
AdLiban hour ago
PPO–and where, pray tell, was McConnell in the situation room meeting today?
glenn
an hour ago
Dunno g. Didn’t see today’s stuff yet
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD–okay, got it. Hey, we can’t do any worse! Especially since the age of the lying bully!
glenn
an hour ago
Ad, I’ve been in and around the recovery community for three decades now, and I never once heard an alcoholic of heroin addict blame economic disparity for their addictions. It’s total and complete paranoid propaganda, like someone said, will eat it up with a spoon. Especially those misanthropic Incels!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Repubs don’t know how to destroy AOC because she isn’t a criminal and hypocrite like them so they attack her dancing??? Previously they tried to claim she was secretly wealthy. So lame!!!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
he repubes look at Ortiz like just some dumb female spic. She’s gonna tear those moron fucks up. he is educated, smart, savy with a good crew and beat an imcumant with a machine.
Harleigh
an hour ago
Hey Murph!
glenn
an hour ago
Murph!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
for now P, for now!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD,
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Harleigh–republicans could never deal with strong, intelligent women. But they have nothing on Ortiz, and she just keeps handing them their asses!
glenn
an hour ago
PPO – But if McConnell thinks he has power, why is he hiding now during the shutdown? McConnell fears the 2020 election and that he will lose the majority AND maybe even his seat. His approvals are in the 30s.
AdLiban hour ago
she is….
Harleigh
an hour ago
Howdy All……what a nice day we have had in the House for the last two days……I called the Speaker’s Office yesterday to congratulate Speaker Pelosi. The woman who answered thanked me and asked what state I was from. When I told she was a bit stunned. I told her that even in ultrared Misery there are men who look to women for prudent leadership.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Saw the cowardly Ryan slink off to ignominy without the courtesy of handing the gavel to the most powerful woman in the USA
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
hey murph!!
Harleigh
an hour ago
glenn – It’s like watching people from the 1950s trying to take Ortiz down! “She dances to the devil’s music!” Really?
AdLiban hour ago
That’s because she’s smart glenn, and more courageous than they’ve ever been, or will be. She’s also GENUINE!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
McConnell is 9 points behind Trump in favorability in his home state. Rock and a hard place.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad–awww, poor McConnell. Not to worry, he can live off his wife’s salary as Transportation Secretary. At least she’s getting paid.
glenn
an hour ago
Footloose AOC!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Congressperson Footloose! Has a nice ring
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Murph–what a nice gesture.
glenn
an hour ago
Glenn…yes and his wife is getting a big raise……exempted from the shutdown……in the next few days.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
I like it P!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Hey Murph!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Glenn…I was proud to do it. I am proud of Nancy and all of the women, AND men in the House who made yesterday so special and so hopeful. Small minded Trump tried to grab the spotlight with his “presser” show…..no one was impressed.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Mitch McConnell least popular senator, poll shows. He’s at around 30% approval. McConnell is running scared and he should. Repubs had a huge advantage in The Senate in the 2018 election and they only won 2 seats!
AdLiban hour ago
FD and Harleigh….Howdy!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO–Not only is Pelosi the most powerful woman in the USA, she’s third in line to the presidency! Take that, repubs. Yeah, and cowardly lyin’ ryan not even hanging around to watch/preside over the peaceful transition of power. Talk about lack of civility!
glenn
an hour ago
45 is getting worse. Good
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
spot on, glenn
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Oh P, he’s getting more bonkers by the day. What a frickin lunatic!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
And Ryan could have been a guest of the House and offered his congratulations. Of course, one would have to be a real man to do such a thing.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
I’m hoping and prayin Ortiz does not become a shrieking shrew but keeps offering solutions…. not that I’m ever skeptical…. but the dance video and her response to those rediculous faux outrage puts her toward the top of my chart.
Harleigh
an hour ago
Murph–it does look as though fewer and fewer people are “impressed” with trump.
glenn
an hour ago
Pence must be rubbing his little hands for when Mother lets him do Presidential impersonations
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Harleigh–even if Ortiz does become a “shrieking shrew”, she can never out-shrew Lindsay Graham.
glenn
an hour ago
What did you all think of the Romney WAPO editorial…..planting his flag on McCain’s ground, making a play for 2020, or just getting back a bit of his own?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Lady Lindsey drives me crazy.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ryan went out as the biggest failure as Speaker and he has to know that.
AdLiban hour ago
and the otange retard isn’t going to get his wall. That’s the proverbial straw that will break the backs of his supporters. He’s got them so convinced we absolutely need them to keep those nasty immigrants from raping their daughters, mothers…and fathers, yep father rapers too, are coming, if the wall ain’t bilt.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–did you see his face yesterday when he had to swear in the first openly bisexual member of Congress on a law book, no less. That was priceless!
glenn
an hour ago
Flipper is irrelevant, even in the destroyed GOP. Non event for Pretzel
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
hink about this…. look how far spanky has declined since his invisible airplane and elton john speeches. whoa doggies!!
Harleigh
an hour ago
S/O to Arlo Guthrie!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ortiz is high energy and fearless. She may make some minor missteps here and there but I think she will help drive and energize Progressive issues in Congress.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad..yes and Ryan’s successor in his home district has largely snubbed him as well. I wonder who will pay him to just be a bit of a decoration in a think tank. “The Ayn Rand Scholar”.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
H!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Murph–I thought romney’s editorial was pissing against the wind. He said nothing; and he will vote with the lying bully and the republicans every time. His time is over.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn, absolutely cringe personified. Hee Hee
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
don’t forget, Mittens is Mr. 47%.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Murph – Romney is suych a phony, he backed down the very next day and got in line behind Trump on wanting the wall. Romney was and is a lying sack, only looking better in comparison (to some) with Trump.
AdLiban hour ago
glenn it was a constitution book thingy…. the real stuff and not the buybull. this woman seems to be for real too.
Harleigh
an hour ago
Leopards don’t change their spots.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD. The poor buggers seem to forget that their every word is on video somewhere.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD – I don’t know that anything breaks the back of Trump cultists but many could be discouraged.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–and Ryan didn’t even have the civility, common courtesy, decency to hand over the gavel. What a coward!
glenn
an hour ago
Another uppity woman made Pence swear her in with thomas jefferson old KORAN!! fuckin priceless.
Harleigh
an hour ago
for realz P. They have also become emboldened by the orange anus to the point of their on detriment.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad, wait until their Gummint subsidies and Social programs dry up. No one else to blame anymore.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD – And personally, I don’t think even most of Trump’s cultists believe all the fear mongering, they just parrot him and claim they agree because they are cultists who support Trump because he is a racist who appeals to their racism.
AdLiban hour ago
Harleigh–yeah, I like her too. She was proud and tall when standing opposite pinched-face pence.
glenn
an hour ago
harleigh pure genius to do that. Poke him in the politest possible way.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
That too Ad.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Murph – I don’t think any Repubs will want to be seen with Ryan who only looks like a spineless loser.
AdLiban hour ago
70 percent of those so called gubmint freebies go to white people that are mostly trumpf supporters.
Harleigh
an hour ago
6 of some/half dozen of the other.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
How are those soy bean farmers now?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Okay, folks, here comes my cynicism again. How many of you think the longer the shutdown goes on, the more chance there is that Dems will cave? Not because they’re weak, but because they want government workers to be able to pay their bills, feed their children, and keep their houses?
glenn
an hour ago
Yesterday at the Greyhound Bus Terminal (saying so long to some guests) I got a chance to speak with a fine young man, a marine in language school (learning the two major tongues in Afghanistan for a tour there). Hispanic. Parents from Mexico. One a citizen, the other a year off. Own a bodega in one of St. Louis’ predominately Hispanic neighborhoods. Salt of the earth. Loves America. Loves Mexico. Hates Trump….big time. He was present for a Trump Visit at Paris Island where Trump compared his experience at the New York Military Academy with their experiences. They were polite but generally silent. Disdain.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Harleigh–love those uppity women!
glenn
an hour ago
FD – Saw a tweet that said something to the effect of, “Some people are nostalgic for when the top Repub was only against 47% of the country.”
AdLiban hour ago
glenn, that’s not a cave. It is proper government for the people.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Murph–but according to the latest polls, the military loves the lying bully…..
glenn
an hour ago
PPO….as one who lives in a state where Soy is a principal cash crop…..disaster, disaster, disaster….and the farmers just do not know how to react.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Oooo, burn! I like it!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
they will not cave or Ortiz and our women will raise holy fucking hell… Pelosi has a plan and they dare not start pushing on her
Harleigh
an hour ago
glenn – So true! Ryan always was a fraud and a coward and being so cowardly not to pass the gavel humiliates him further.
AdLiban hour ago
They sort of have to, glenn. At least publicly. I’d like to conduct a more personal survey!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–yes, I know it is. But you know how the repubs are going to frame it.
glenn
an hour ago
Murph, the GOP will now scream for the Dems to dig the farmers out of Trump’s hole!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I agree….no caving….the GOP is already feeling the heat…..there will be some face saving that Trump can point to but anyone who knows anything will put a pin into that balloon. A prick for a prick.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph–perhaps you could just give them a little nudge as how to react. You know, don’t vote republican in any election.
glenn
an hour ago
Pelosi has tump’s number, big time. She knows what makes him tick and how his money and power addled mind works.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Glenn…what polls re. the military are those…..of course Marines, especially Hispanic Marines, may have a special distaste for him.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
FD hope she and shumer keep the pressure on, while still taking care of business elsewhere, unlike the other lot!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – It’s already happening, the damage that the shutdown is doing is magnifying. What makes me angry though are all the pundits saying, “When it gets bad enough, both sides will have to come together and compromise.” What??? No! Trump asks for something outrageous, it’s not Dems who will ever be wrong for opposing something mostly outrageous.
AdLiban hour ago
Oh, I think they will.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Glenn…those blinders are still firmly in place….there may come a time when I can offer such a nudge but not yet.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Harleigh–I really hope you’re correct. But Dems actually care about people, and repubs care about their agenda. And, the lying bully has been getting away with this shit for all of his life. Stiff contractors, tie them up in court for years and years, then “settle” for pennies on the dollar. He’s gotten away with it all his life; what makes this time different?
glenn
an hour ago
Murph, where is the soy lobby? Surely they have a huge voice?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad….if the Dems can get the Dreamers off the hook along with a pull back on the outrageous abuses at the border……some money for border security is ok by me.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
glenn _ It is legit to be concerned that Dems could cave but Pelosi has siad flat out, “We will not vote for a wall.” If she whips Dems to do so, it would be very damaging to her.
AdLiban hour ago
the house can now supena any records they want… trumpf will have more shit coming at him than he can dish out of his’big dumb mouth’.
Harleigh
an hour ago
Murph – And those in the military see Trump smearing their generals, many in the military are turning against Trump.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad. I think so……
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad. True. Trump has to come into line. His threat to keep the shutdown going will backfire on him when his own support is destitute.
pinkpantheroz
44 minutes ago
Murph – As the soy farmers suffer, they know only one thing to do. Mindlessly blame Dems.
AdLib44 minutes ago
I am watching Joy Reid interview Nancy Pelosi…two impressive women.
MurphTheSurf3
44 minutes ago
H, they’re going to make his tax returns public. I think that’s what trump is so frightened of. Nobody works that had to keep something from the public if it’s above board. Trump is so screwed, and it’s about time.
Fuzzy Dunlop
44 minutes ago
I love Joy!
Fuzzy Dunlop
43 minutes ago
Ad….the filters of anger, fear, hate, are powerful indeed.
MurphTheSurf3
43 minutes ago
Murph–Nearly 6 in 10 military veterans voted for Republican candidates in the November midterm elections, and a similar majority had positive views of President Donald Trump’s leadership. But women, the fastest growing demographic group in the military, are defying that vote trend. That’s according to AP VoteCast, a nationwide survey of more than 115,000 midterm voters — including more than 4,000 current and former service members — conducted for The Associated Press by NORC at the University of Chicago. It found that veterans overall approved of Trump’s job performance, showing high support for the president’s handling of border security and his efforts to make the U.S. safer from terrorism.
Murph – Dems are for border security, that shouldn’t be a synonym for “the wall”. Dems can’t give money for any kind of wall Trump describes…but I think they should give him a way out by saying they will support a “high tech wall”.
AdLib42 minutes ago
Glenn…not surprised at the “vets”. For those in uniform right now….the experience is a souring one.
MurphTheSurf3
42 minutes ago
No concrete or steel slats, just tech,
AdLib42 minutes ago
Ad….that would be a good solution.
MurphTheSurf3
42 minutes ago
Ad didn’t dems already co-approve money for border maintenance?
pinkpantheroz
42 minutes ago
Murph–the Dems have already given the lying bully “some money”. Most of it has not been spent; plus they offered a little over 1 billion; the lying bully refused it.
glenn
42 minutes ago
Oh man, every time trump hears the phrase “steel slats,” he wets his Depends!
Fuzzy Dunlop
42 minutes ago
Glenn…I know this..a difference will be that oversight will expose such practices.
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
Murph – I still see the Trump cult as the end result of 40 years of the GOP hammering on racism as their power.
AdLib41 minutes ago
FD….and eats a half dozen big macs….with a diet coke.
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
Murph–yeah, considering that most of the vets are elderly, white men, it’s not surprising.
glenn
40 minutes ago
Ad….begin with the Nixonian GOP Southern Strategy and where we are now makes horrifying sense.
MurphTheSurf3
40 minutes ago
Murph, I keep hoping trump will get a Big Mac Attack, as in, a major coronary.
Fuzzy Dunlop
40 minutes ago
Glenn…yes.
MurphTheSurf3
40 minutes ago
bingo murph
Harleigh
40 minutes ago
Trump is losing military voters. Here’s how Democrats can win them over.
Remember Red Fox as Sanford? Hoping for the “Big One!”
MurphTheSurf3
40 minutes ago
I’m comin Ivana!
Fuzzy Dunlop
39 minutes ago
I wonder if his upcoming medial will end up in his having to resign for ‘medical reasons’? Face saving way out.
pinkpantheroz
39 minutes ago
Murph–“Elizabeth, I’m coming to join you!”
glenn
39 minutes ago
PPO – Yep, Dems just passed $1.3 billion that includes border security and fixing fencing. This is what Trump and McConnell say they wont agree to.
AdLib39 minutes ago
Hoping for a massive karmattack and drops like bretfart did… painfully in the street.
Harleigh
38 minutes ago
PPO–that’s assuming he wants a “way out”. I think he’s enjoying his twitter reign too much right now.
glenn
38 minutes ago
LOL FD
Harleigh
38 minutes ago
I hope a stray dog pisses on him, just for good measure.
Fuzzy Dunlop
38 minutes ago
Have any of you seen “Vice”- its flawed but still a devastating portrayal of the GOP….I wonder what film opportunities exist in playing Trump?
MurphTheSurf3
38 minutes ago
Death is a “way out.”
MurphTheSurf3
37 minutes ago
Murph–Alex Baldwin?
glenn
37 minutes ago
Murph – Yep, that’s what I’m referring to. Since Johnson pushed and signed the Civil Rights Act and Nixon ran on the Southern Strategy. This is the net result, ignorant white people whose racism wasn’t extinguished since then but had gasoline thrown on it.
AdLib37 minutes ago
Oh, It has to be Alec Baldwin, but in a slightly toned down portrayal.
Fuzzy Dunlop
37 minutes ago
Murph – Yes, I’ve seen Vice. Christian Bale is invisible, an amazing performance as Cheney!
AdLib36 minutes ago
Ad–I will never, in a million years, how people who lost a war, can be so damn proud of losing!
glenn
36 minutes ago
FD. NO! No more publicity for this bastard.
pinkpantheroz
35 minutes ago
I gotta check that out.
Fuzzy Dunlop
35 minutes ago
Yeah, you’re right P!
Fuzzy Dunlop
35 minutes ago
PPO–which bastard? Baldwin or the lying bully?
glenn
35 minutes ago
I think it has to be a true portrayal of a demented sick old fat fuck.
Harleigh
35 minutes ago
45
pinkpantheroz
35 minutes ago
Pelosi is attacking Medicare For All and praising the ACA as better. Reminder, DNC take in a lot of money from insurance companies.
AdLib35 minutes ago
They should have John Waters direct, or David Lynch!
Fuzzy Dunlop
34 minutes ago
Why not Tarantino? Blodbath!!!
pinkpantheroz
34 minutes ago
I think there’s a method to her madness, Ad. But then again, you may be right.
Fuzzy Dunlop
34 minutes ago
Ad–this is where the newer members of Congress, especially those like Cortiz, may do some pushing back on Pelosi. I can understand Pelosi’s stance on the ACA, though. After all, she’s the one who presided over and got the votes for it.
glenn
34 minutes ago
glenn – I think the shame that racists in the South (only some folks there are) can only deal with the proof of white superiority being a failure, with denial.
AdLib33 minutes ago
Not creepy enough, P.
Fuzzy Dunlop
33 minutes ago
ACA has to be reinforced first…..
MurphTheSurf3
33 minutes ago
Clever of her to spread the policies arou nd and not concentrate on just 45
pinkpantheroz
33 minutes ago
PPO–ooh, Tarantino with orange hair would probably look just like the lying bully! LOL!
glenn
33 minutes ago
Man, what a dreadful sight that would be, glenn.
Fuzzy Dunlop
32 minutes ago
Ad–yeah, some of the pictures I see lately of the lying bully’s supporters, certainly “prove” that white superiority thingy!
glenn
32 minutes ago
FD–maybe not as dreadful as the original!
glenn
31 minutes ago
FD – I’m not upset with Pelosi for taking the corporate position on healthcare, I know what her background is and a number of paid-for Dems. They’re not ideal but right now we all have to pull together and win our positions within the Dem party without using politics of destruction and negativity. I totally disagree with Pelosi on this and will support those who support “Medicare For All” but she’s a leader of our team.
AdLib31 minutes ago
Good point, G!
Fuzzy Dunlop
31 minutes ago
ACA can’t get fixed with this senate but I have been in health insurance for years and the medicare model from most of our 36 allies that many got thr idea from us is the only way to go
Harleigh
31 minutes ago
I can tell you that enthusiasm for Trump is definitely on the decline here in Mo…..there is a feeling that he is all they have but that he is not measuring up to his promises.
MurphTheSurf3
31 minutes ago
glenn, that’s the problem, when art cannot come close to imitating life!
pinkpantheroz
31 minutes ago
glenn – Exactly, Progressives like Ortiz are among those who could push Medicare For All over the top with undecided Dems, they deserve the support from Progressives.
AdLib30 minutes ago
Absolutely Ad. BTW, I got my Medicare card in the mail a few weeks ago. Yep, I’m an old fuck!
Fuzzy Dunlop
29 minutes ago
Yes Murph, fixing the ACA should be the path forward on Medicare For All but unlike Pelosi, I don’t think that’s the endgame.
AdLib29 minutes ago
So, Ad, how do you support those who support Medicare for all, without it turning into a Dem civil war with Pelosi supporting the ACA?
glenn
29 minutes ago
7000 plus lies and broke all his promises… how stupid does one have to be to trust or believe him
Harleigh
28 minutes ago
200k more ACA members as VA joined in. Too many Americans in it for anyone, including extremist judges, to take it away without a literal revolution happening.
AdLib28 minutes ago
FD–oh, please, I’ve had my Medicare card for 5 years! You’re just a “young’un”.
glenn
28 minutes ago
I think a better question would be, how HATEFUL?
Fuzzy Dunlop
28 minutes ago
5 years here….
Harleigh
27 minutes ago
a basket of venality!
Fuzzy Dunlop
27 minutes ago
Harleigh and FD–well, I think the lying bully’s supporters have shown us how hateful they can be. The question is, how low can they go?
glenn
27 minutes ago
Damn, I thought I had reached fogeyhood already!
Fuzzy Dunlop
26 minutes ago
Congrats FD! I want it to be there for me when it’s my turn! Don’t forget, the plan by Ryan and McConnell, if they won in 2018 and kept Congress Repub, was to slash SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Only one party to vote for if people want to keep the safetry net in place.
AdLib26 minutes ago
Harleigh:
glenn
26 minutes ago
I was at Pasta House today for lunch…a crowded restaurant…..in the middle of rural Mo. My table was all “libs” and we were enthusiastic so our pro-Dem conversation was easily heard…..for the first time in my memory…..no pushback from other tables.
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
glenn, they haven’t hit bottom yet, sad to say. And we may never get to it
pinkpantheroz
26 minutes ago
No doubt Ad!
Fuzzy Dunlop
26 minutes ago
PPO–As long as the lying bully is in office, he will just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper, so there never will be a bottom.
glenn
25 minutes ago
true, g
pinkpantheroz
25 minutes ago
Trump is going to lose this Wall fight, and then he’ll lose his base. They don’t give a rat’s ass if he shoots someone, but they want that wall.
Fuzzy Dunlop
25 minutes ago
medicare ans SS are not paid for out of general fund tax dollars and had trillions in the funds until bush/cheney
Harleigh
25 minutes ago
glenn – I think that Progressives should come out to say that they support Pelosi and corporate Dems in fixing the ACA but that they will fight to take the next step from that to get Medicare For All in place. Progs can win in the battle of support from the Dem base without trashing Pelosi and corporate Dems.
AdLib25 minutes ago
Murph–yeah, they’re not quite so smug any more.
glenn
25 minutes ago
Ad….good Med 4 All strategy.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
Ad–okay, sounds good to me. I think Pelosi deserves all of our support; and I hope she continues to kick the lying bully’s ass.
glenn
24 minutes ago
Well, gents, this old lady is wearing out. Take care, everyone, and hope to see you all next week. G’nite.
glenn
23 minutes ago
Murph – Very interesting to hear that. Especially in the aftermath of the 2018 rout by Dems and Trump’s lunacy coming faster and more unhinged, only the most deluded cultists could be energized at this point.
AdLib23 minutes ago
med for all saves over 3/4 trillion per year in premium and overhead excess charges….. next up…. drug prices
Harleigh
23 minutes ago
Sweet dreams G!
Fuzzy Dunlop
23 minutes ago
Night glenn! Have a great weekend!
AdLib23 minutes ago
nite glenn
Harleigh
23 minutes ago
Trump’s mother was walked over (and a bit of a trophy too)….Trump has no idea how to work with women as a equal….Pelosis is poison for him.
MurphTheSurf3
23 minutes ago
I think it’s about time for me to do the same. Night all, and Happy New Year!
Fuzzy Dunlop
22 minutes ago
Bye Glenn
MurphTheSurf3
22 minutes ago
nite fd…
Harleigh
22 minutes ago
Sorry, folks, but I have to head out. Thank God today is only 75. yeaterday was 107.6! Have a great 2019 all.
pinkpantheroz
22 minutes ago
FD…checking out….pleasant dreams.
MurphTheSurf3
22 minutes ago
PPO heading for the door…..so soon….well, have a cool day.
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
nite folks!!
Harleigh
21 minutes ago
glenn – Yep, right now, Dems need to be pragmatic. Progressives can’t expect to get all or nothing right now and I don’t think they will. They have moved the needle already and they will continue to do so. Many Prog issues are being supported including Climate Change and election reform.
AdLib21 minutes ago
And there goes Harleigh…..the beer must have run out.
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
Wow, lotta folks headed out at once!
AdLib21 minutes ago
Well Ad…just me and you.
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
Yep!
AdLib20 minutes ago
Something I said?
MurphTheSurf3
20 minutes ago
Heh! Maybe my cologne?
AdLib20 minutes ago
So maybe the new Senator out there in MO could be in legal trouble?
AdLib20 minutes ago
What did you think of Vice? The skip over of Cheney’s role in the first Iraq War seemed to me to be a major hole….says a lot why he wanted a round two to get Hussein….Daddy Bush and Stormin Norman overruled him.
MurphTheSurf3
19 minutes ago
Ad…he is such an arrogant shit….I truly hope so.
MurphTheSurf3
19 minutes ago
And how about Trump’s position on the wall? It’s mostly built, Mexico is paying for it, $5 billion is needed from Americans and it doesn’t need to be a concrete wall. Huh?
AdLib19 minutes ago
And it’s not a “shutdown”, it’s a “strike”.
AdLib18 minutes ago
And the wall can be built by declaring a national emergency?
AdLib18 minutes ago
I don’t think so!
AdLib18 minutes ago
Trump’s Wall….Trumpty Dumpty Sat on the Wall…and we know what happened next.
MurphTheSurf3
18 minutes ago
Murph – Yes, I thought there were a variety of things skimmed over in Vice, it was a flawed film despite the great Bale performance. And some of Cheney’s biggest evil statements were passed over.
AdLib16 minutes ago
Finishing watching Pelosi with Reid. She is full of energy.
MurphTheSurf3
16 minutes ago
Trumpty Dumpty will take a big fall.
AdLib16 minutes ago
I saw the film in a theater in a very affluent area…….I wish I could have taken a poll regarding how it was received.
MurphTheSurf3
15 minutes ago
Yes, nice to see Pelosi full of fire! Dems are not cooling off about taking on Trump.
AdLib15 minutes ago
I felt it was a little superficial in some ways. And hit the nail on the head a bit here and there. But I liked it.
AdLib14 minutes ago
A woman friend is now the head of the Dem Party in my county. I was part of the group that supported her and insisted on the party here taking “the risk”. She is already doing a bang up job.
MurphTheSurf3
14 minutes ago
“Vice” did capture the “gestalt” of the Cheney years…..among the things I missed was the Bush decision to have Cheney vacate his WH office and the end of the daily lunches in his last two years. Daddy Bush warned him and he did not listen.
MurphTheSurf3
12 minutes ago
Very cool! It sure feels like the enthusiasm hasn’t subsided for Dems and that Repub energy is continuing to wane. Especially with the stock market becoming uneasy and The House Dems coming for Trump’s head and those in his admin.
AdLib12 minutes ago
Yep, I don’t think we saw the real bitterness Bush ended up feeling towards Cheney after he finally realized Cheney had stolen so much of his power.
AdLib11 minutes ago
Our new chair is a high school principal and very respected….she is presenting herself as a champion for education and for children.
MurphTheSurf3
11 minutes ago
Stolen his power and led him down a disastrous path.
MurphTheSurf3
10 minutes ago
Yes, I think the dynamics and evolution of the Cheney/Bush relationship could have been used to expose much of the story but Bush seemed a bit missing here and there.
AdLib9 minutes ago
There was a lot to cover, I just don’t know that trying to show things from Cheney’s POV was ideal because it trivialized Bush a bit.
AdLib7 minutes ago
My understanding is that George HW Bush did not want Cheney near W…..he had soured to him because of the way he opposed the end of hostilities in Iraq…he wanted to take down Hussein and create an Arab/Muslim Israeli state.
MurphTheSurf3
7 minutes ago
Ad. Agree. Still W Bush is a very trivial man.
MurphTheSurf3
7 minutes ago
Did you see the Obama Tweet that he would stand with “us” in the growing opposition to the GOP and Trump?
MurphTheSurf3
6 minutes ago
Eventually, Bush realized what a disaster and power grabber Cheney was but Bush was “The Decider” and his role as an inscure partner with Cheney, was key and could have been explored in a fuller way. Many of us saw Cheney as the true president and Bush as a weak pawn but Bush’s realization is very dramatic.
AdLib5 minutes ago
No, what was Obama referring to? Impeachment?
AdLib5 minutes ago
Ad…yes. Decider led by the “chider”.
MurphTheSurf3
4 minutes ago
Obama was reacting to Nancy’s election….
MurphTheSurf3
4 minutes ago
It wasn’t a film about Bush but he was co-dependent and made Cheney powerful.
AdLib4 minutes ago
Agreed.
MurphTheSurf3
4 minutes ago
Oh, well I’m very happy for Obama to be as visible as possible.
AdLib3 minutes ago
Time for me to head for the door as well. Ending on an Obama moment is a good place to exit.
MurphTheSurf3
3 minutes ago
But I think in 6 months or so, we’ll have new Dems carrying the torch.
AdLib2 minutes ago
Those running for president.
AdLib2 minutes ago
I hope that the Dems don’t beat each other senseless in the run up to 2020.
MurphTheSurf3
2 minutes ago
Okay, get some rest this weekend! Easier with less stress thanks to the electiion results and Pelosi and Dems in charge!
AdLib2 minutes ago
Good night……rest sounds good.
MurphTheSurf3
a minute ago
I think Dems are going to be too preoccupied with running against Trump insanity.
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