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AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Beatlex!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey ad!

Beatlex

7 days ago
Getting a lot of Americans moving in up there?
AdLib 7 days ago
Now Trump is trampling on long held foreign policy on China!

Beatlex

7 days ago
Not that I have noticed ad

Beatlex

7 days ago
Was just joking…
AdLib 7 days ago
I know,Trump is no joke though,he is dangerous

Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex, this is just the beginning. Before too long, I think most of America and the world will be standing up together against him.
AdLib 7 days ago
He has no idea how hated he already is and will be by most of the world. And that will undercut support for him in the GOP.
AdLib 7 days ago
I am thinking that it is possible the R’s turn on him Ad.With all the conflicts of interest he has

Beatlex

7 days ago
He wants to spend.The R’s hate that

Beatlex

7 days ago
I think it’s only a matter of time. The novelty of electing him will soon wear off after he’s president. Then, the revolt against Trump and the GOP will be a woorldwide phenomenon.
AdLib 7 days ago
He will become the most hated man in the free world.
AdLib 7 days ago
What’s going on now is really odd. So many people seem still in shock.
AdLib 7 days ago
The only way to stop him is impeachment.And I am still in shock Ad

Beatlex

7 days ago
And as Kalima reminded in a recent comment, there seems to be no news coverage of how the FBI and Russians manipulated this election to what they wanted. A coup by a foreign country and the MSM is just sitting around sensationalizing Trump’s tweets.
AdLib 7 days ago
But impeachment can only be prosecuted by The House and Repubs have cheated through gerrymandering to control that. Can’t imagine them ever impeaching a president of their own party.
AdLib 7 days ago
The media shares much of the blame for sure.For ratings.And I think they would impeach.If he keeps his business ties.They would LOVE Mike Pence as President

Beatlex

7 days ago
You’re so right, the MSM bragged about how Trump may be horrible for America but was great for ratings. Corporate America threw the US under the bus with the economic crash, now it’s trying to disembowel it with Trump. Maybe we needed this to happen to have a real social (not literal) revolution against this awful system.
AdLib 7 days ago
And youu’re right about them liking Pence more but they can’t afford to alienate the GOP base that loves Trump.
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump will turn them off himself Ad,There are people grumbling already about his wall street picks

Beatlex

7 days ago
I think some will peel off but remember the campaign, some of these Trump supporters are mindless followers who will rationalize away everything he does. He is a cult leader and his cult, though smaller than the amount of voters he got, will stay blindly behind him…like zombies.
AdLib 7 days ago
The Dems better come up with someone good to carry the torch Ad.That will be interesting to see.They can’t wait for Trump to F up,they need to have an alternative

Beatlex

7 days ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 7 days ago
OZZZZ!

Beatlex

7 days ago
Hey everybody! I see the Don has screwed another va- Ghyna with his chat to taiwan!

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
hey beat!

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I’m concerned about that, Beatlex. They’re keeping the same failed establishment leadership in power in Congress…they are so corrupt in ignoring the election results while keeping their hold on power. Who knows who they’ll try too force on Dem voters in 2020 if the rank and file can’t overcome them?
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO – Isn’t that 2 for 2? He’s now damaged relations with India and China, the two most populous nations in the world!
AdLib 7 days ago
Well, let’s see what he does in Europe – make it 3 for 3

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Trump has already pissed off half of the population of the world, not to mention most Americans. And he isn’t even president yet!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Sure acting like one already, and if this is an example of what we can expect, we’re fucking doomed!

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
My bet is that the majority of Trump’s presidency will be him under siege from all sides and reacting hatefully, turning more and more people against him. Again, in 4 years, he will likely be the most hated man in the free world.
AdLib 7 days ago
agree, Ad, but it is what state the world will be in by then that creeps me out

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
…. and who can fix it/

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Not necessarily, if he turns so many against him, Repubs will have little choice but to help block him.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey everyone! Hope you are well.

glenn

7 days ago
Glenn!

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO–how’s your Fergie?

glenn

7 days ago
Fergie’s doing fine, thanks, G. she’s busy writing cards. with one eye, that’s no easy these days. Hip is fine, DG.

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad–trump may be the most hated man in the free world, but the problem is, he will be POTUS. That’s what scares the beejesus out of me!

glenn

7 days ago
Exactly, Glenn.

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – We can’t stop Trump from becoming president but since he is, it may be the one thing that brings the world together and could radically change the plutocratic system strangling the majority. It was noot a huge wave that elected Trump, he lost the popular vote by 2 million. But he could bring about a real populist election that makes big changes to our government. Bush caused Obama to be elected, Trump could cause a very Progressive Dem and Dem congress to be elected.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–not sure that repubs will block trump in any way, shape, or form. Just look at romney eating crow for dinner the other night. And ryan can’t wait to gut Medicare, Obamacare, and any other program he can. Mainly just because, now, with the election of trump, he can!

glenn

7 days ago
glenn – True but as we saw with Obama, even a President can be blocked from using his power in profound ways. If enough Americans, including Repubs who realize they were conned by Trump, rise up against him, Repub pols who want to be re-elected would have no choice but too help block Trump.
AdLib 7 days ago
BTW, I did a stint on The Chase Australia and it went to air on Nov.22. Will be on YouTube next week, I hear. If you want to watch it for a laugh, it will be S04E49

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad–it may well be that trump will cause a progressive Dem and Dem congress to be elected. The problem with that is, the Dems need to find one, that’s not Elizabeth Warren nor Bernie Sanders. The Dems need to start bringing up some “younguns” with progressive ideas.

glenn

7 days ago
Agree glenn, and the mid terms will be where it starts

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
glenn – If that core of Trump supporters who believed his BS start feeling betrayed, Repub pols won’t choose Trump over them because they’ll lose re-election.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO – That is damn cool! Could you post a link here on TO/OT once it’s up?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, the sheeples will never admit they were mightily conned and will ‘rationalize’ whatever it takes to stay voting for Republicans.

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Will do, Ad, as long as it won’t break confidentiality rules.

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad–do you think the Dems are “united” enough to block trump like the repubs did with President Obama? Personally, I’ll believe it when I see it. Dems have a history of “working with” repubs when they think the legislation is good for the country; thereby giving trump the ability to crow about his “uniting” the Congress. I hope Warren can keep them fired up and ready to block him at every turn. Once again, the repubs are willing to burn down the country to win elections. I don’t know that Dems are willing to do the same.

glenn

7 days ago
glenn – I don’t agree that Warren should be ruled out because of her age. She has the Progressive following and indie support that can win elections. Age shouldn’t be more important than winning. A young unknown Progressive might have a hard time winning a primary and a GE.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn, unfortunately, they won’t have enough grunt to sway much of anything.

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Oh right…just let me know, I’ll edit our conversation out on Vox about it then post it myself. Really looking forward to it!
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO–respectfully disagree that the midterms are the place to start. Now is the time to get those Dem names before the public. We have too many entrenched repubs in the red states. Here in GA., some of the positions for which I voted didn’t even have a Dem on the ballot. In those cases I wrote in Donald Duck or my mother’s name because I refuse to vote for a republican.

glenn

7 days ago
glenn, you’re right of course, now is the time for the Dems to air their new faces and start pushing.

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – True, the core Trump Zombies will never admit anything negative about Trump or ever turn on him but many of those who voted for Trump, especially in the swing states, aren’t mindless Trump followers. They are the ones who will peel off from him, leaving a too-small minority of Trombies left supporting him.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–good point about Warren and age. It wasn’t so much her age I was objecting to as it was her “baggage”. I think repubs will try to do the same thing to her that they did to Hillary, although I think Warren is better prepared to take them on! So, listen to me, talking out of both sides of my mouth. I do think that Dems had better get some young blood in soon, though!

glenn

7 days ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
Howdy

MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey Murph! How are you?

glenn

7 days ago
Hi, Murph.

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
grabbing a coffee, BRB

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
How am I? Exhausted.

MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – I do think that there aren’t so many Blue Dog Dems left to betray Dems and help defeat filibusters. I don’t trust Schumer, he’s a corporate pawn but the outrages of Trump will continue to be so unacceptable that if he or any other Dems support him regularly, they will be destroyed in primaries.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – Good point about the need for Dems to begin working ASAP to prepare to defeat the GOP in 2018 and 2020. Especially in states like GA which have potential to move into the Dem column.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I hope you’re right. But, as I told PPO, here in GA., for some seats, there aren’t even any Dems running! It’s frustrating to have to write in names just because I refuse to vote for a repub., plus I don’t want a “non-vote” to go to them, if that makes sense.

glenn

7 days ago
Murph–working too hard? Hope your health is not the cause of your exhaustion.

glenn

7 days ago
And right now there is NO Democratic national presence in LA where a Senate Seat is still to be decided. Why are they/we not fighting for it?

MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – I don’t know what baggage Warren has, she has a history of fighting the banks and corporations, something that both Hillary and Trump voters support. There aren’t any skeletons in her closet, very important after what we saw exploited this year. And Warren is charismatic, tough and unafraid as a fighter and has a hige Progressive following, bigger than anyone since Bernie voters are Warren fans too. I think she’s a natural to run but I would like to see younger Progressives running against her to raise their image…and if they’re legit and win, they’ll do well too.
AdLib 7 days ago