Vox Populi – 3-18-2016

Hey Ad!

KillgoreTrout

Hey Ad, Hey KT! Que pasa?

glenn

Ad–I never watch trump if I can help it; what is he doing to beat himself up?

glenn

Ad–is that really true that half of the gop won’t vote for trump? From what I’ve read, they all say even though he’s horrible, they’ll still vote for him because he’s “their” candidate.

glenn

And, of course, they won’t vote for Hillary or Bernie either.

glenn

Okay, so looking ahead to the convention, do you think the gop will go for kasich or cruz?

glenn

I like those polls. I saw an article that says Latinos are working to become citizens so they can vote. Hope all those repubs stay home.

glenn

Personally, I think cruz would be easier to beat than trump. What do you think?

glenn

IMO, you can’t call yourself a Dem if you’re going to “cross over” to vote for trump. I see nothing in his “policy” that is Democratic, much less democratic.

glenn

sorry folks, got called away for a moment.

KillgoreTrout

And neither have his supporters’ negatives have peaked. Ugh, they are nasty people.

glenn

oops…supporters’ negatives peaked.

glenn

KT–how are you?

glenn

He might go the other way, Ad. The last debate, showed a more subdued Trump. I think he’s trying to appear presidential now.

KillgoreTrout

Hey glenn. Doing well, and you?

KillgoreTrout

KT–yeah, right. Trying to appear presidential by calling for a boycott on a reporter. Now, I’m not a fan of Megyn Kelly or fox news, but for someone running for president to call for a boycott of a reporter who only repeated his words back to him, is not “trying to be presidential.” Or maybe president of Russia, like putin.

glenn

Well, I said “trying.” He can’t actually do it.

KillgoreTrout

i heard her say pretty much that the other day. I think she’s right, they really hate Trump. They know he could actually doome their party.

KillgoreTrout

I think it’s funny, that at the last dem debate Hillary made a comment that was obviously directed at Trump, though she didn’t use his name. She basically said she wasn’t going to fall for that reality TV show crap. She won’t either. I think she probably has many IQ points more than he does.

KillgoreTrout

Oh I absolutely believe that he cannot win a general. He’s just a big fish in a small pond, right now.

KillgoreTrout

KT–I hate to tell the repubs (well, not really), but trump has already doomed their party. Read an article by Leonard Pitts the other day, and his question is, what about after trump? Because, in a way, there will be no “after trump”. The repubs can’t erase him, nor his supporters. If he is denied the nomination, they are going to be even angrier than they are now. If he gets the nomination and loses the GE, then who knows what they’ll do? They certainly aren’t going to go away peacefully unless the repub party repeatedly and forcefully tells them that what they want is NEVER going to happen here in the US!

glenn

KillgoreTrout

KT–love it! But I still like the urinal one better!

glenn

Trump the Blowfish!

KillgoreTrout

Oh hell yeah! big time racists.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–only 45% of 50% of them!

glenn

Hillary seems to be stumbling a lot lately. I think sometimes her poll numbers go to her head also, and she begins to make things up. That’s when she gets in trouble. If she would just stick to the issues, her take on the issues, then I think she does okay. Not that I agree with her on everything, but she does seem to self-aggrandize a bit too much for my taste.

glenn

Ad–I have no doubt that the gop convention is going to be insane. After all, there are no sane people left in the repub party.

glenn

Ah Cleveland! The Mistake on the Lake!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–exactly. People keep saying she would walk all over trump in a head to head debate, but I think she can get just as easily off topic as he does. As you say, when she is pushed against the ropes, is when she is her best, so maybe I’m wrong, but she has a lot of gaffes herself.

glenn

i disagree glenn. Hillary sat for 11 hours, being grilled by a senate investigating committee, and at the end of it, she came out smiling. She’s tough enough for Trump.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–as I keep saying, not only can Dems point to their insane convention (if it turns out to be that way), but more importantly, point to the repub led states, where education funds have been cut to the bone; people have no health insurance; the infrastructure is falling apart; and the only people who have rights are white people.

glenn

KT–Hope you’re right, but that was about her third Benghazi hearing. At the first one, she lost it a little. I agree with what she said, when she said, “What difference does it make if they were killed by terrorists or by random people walking down the street?”, but they did rattle her in that one, IMO. Remember in a debate, you can’t consult with anyone, nor can you use notes. I’m not saying she is not well-prepared, but I think she can be rattled, too.

glenn

I disagree. I think Hillary will come loaded for bear.

KillgoreTrout

what’s Trump going to do when issues are the main focus?

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I agree completely. I think the majority of sane Americans will never see trump as an acceptable alternative to

glenn

I guess we’ll most likely find out. I would love to see Bernie debate Trump, one on one.

KillgoreTrout

oops alertnative to Hillary.

glenn

We simply cannot afford another 4year of republican insanity.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–you say it so much better than I can. Agree completely–when she is overconfident she stumbles.

glenn

KT–I’m with you on that one. Do you think repubs will learn any lessons from this trump debacle, given that they still haven’t really taken responsibility for creating him?

glenn

Hillary surely expects it. If not, then she isn’t worthy of being president. Trump is simply a big orange blowhard, and Hillary knows it.

KillgoreTrout

KT–I’d like to see a trump-Sanders debate, too.

glenn

Ad–I hope the repubs have an even more massive loss this time than they did with Goldwater. Then maybe they’ll shift away from the “southern strategy” to the “sane strategy”.

glenn

They just might if we win by the biggest landslide in US history. Then again, ?

KillgoreTrout

KT–it’s the “then again” that we have to worry about.

glenn

no doubt.

KillgoreTrout

it definitely could happen, Ad. I would be sooo happy!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I agree, repubs can’t seem to learn new things. However, that’s the definition of conservatism, isn’t it? Stick with the same old, same old, whether or not it works!

glenn

Hey Ad, I have a question. Why do you think Bernie does so poorly among African-American voters?

glenn

Ad–speaking of super delegates, if Bernie picks up momentum, are they “allowed” to change their votes?

glenn

Good one, Ad–“cemented minds” that are impervious to facts and reality.

glenn

Ad–that sounds about right. But hasn’t Bernie supported the President in his voting record in the Senate?

glenn

Ad–so do you think Bernie can actually win the primary? I keep seeing articles that he’ll do much better in the Western states than Hillary. What do you think?

glenn

Ad–Do you think President Obama’s recent support of Hillary will hurt Bernie? Perhaps Bernie’s support of a primary challenge in 2012 is hurting him with the President, at least.

glenn

What happened to KT?

glenn

Ad–off the top of your head, do you know if Hillary was ahead of Obama at this point in the primaries in 2008? When did Obama begin surging? Do you remember? I could look it up but I always screw up my connection to Vox when I do that

glenn

So, IOW, about the way it is now. What turned it around for Obama, do you remember?

glenn

I’m telling you; the older I get, the more we seem to be fighting the same fights we’ve been fighting for 40 damn years now! Wars,immigration, the “war on poverty”, etc., etc. I keep hoping we’ll find the middle someday, whatever that is.

glenn

Ad–the strange thing in this primary is the older person in the race is the one beating the drums for change!

glenn

Yup–it’s that “overconfidence” thing again. I think she has to be really careful this time around if she wants to win. She can’t start acting like romney did and think it’s “her turn.”

glenn

That’s what I don’t get. Didn’t the haters like the US being prosperous? That’s a rhetorical question, because apparently they didn’t, which is why we are where we are now.

glenn

Once again, you hit the nail on the head, Ad. I’m certainly no youth, and Bernie’s message resonates with me, too. I do think it’s time Dems stopped letting the repubs control the narrative all the time. I realize that our so-called journalists bear a lot of reponsibility for letting repubs call the narrative. I think the internet with all its blogs and websites, is helping to get Bernie’s message out.

glenn

Well you could just say corporations are just monstrous people. Okay, Ad, time for me to call it a night. If KT comes back, tell him I said good night. And a good night to you; have a wonderful weekend! Only one soccer game for me this weekend, and thank goodness it’s in the afternoon tomorrow. G’nite!

glenn

Good luck!

glenn