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AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey KT!
AdLib 7 days ago
How are things your way?
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad, Hey KT! Que pasa?
glenn

7 days ago
Hey glenn! Just watching Trump beat himself.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I never watch trump if I can help it; what is he doing to beat himself up?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Just cementing his horribleness. Lying, hating, insulting, he’s boosting his negatives over 60%, half of the GOP says they won’t vote for Trump, he’s winning the GOP nom and in doing soo, becoming tooo toxic to win in the GE.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–is that really true that half of the gop won’t vote for trump? From what I’ve read, they all say even though he’s horrible, they’ll still vote for him because he’s “their” candidate.
glenn

7 days ago
And, of course, they won’t vote for Hillary or Bernie either.
glenn

7 days ago
But I am seeing all sorts of articles and pudnuts talking about how scared they are that he could win in the GE. Nope. His support can’t be shaken among the 45% of Repubs supporting him but with everyone else, he is hated. Even the GOP Estab is working on how to steal the nom from Trump at the convention.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – Yep, according to a poll this week, 50% of the GOP won’t vote for him.
AdLib 7 days ago
Some have said they could vote for Hillary.
AdLib 7 days ago
Okay, so looking ahead to the convention, do you think the gop will go for kasich or cruz?
glenn

7 days ago
I think they’d have to go for Cruz because Kasich isn’t likely to be anywhere close in delegates and if they gave it to him, the core GOP RW voters would walk.
AdLib 7 days ago
I like those polls. I saw an article that says Latinos are working to become citizens so they can vote. Hope all those repubs stay home.
glenn

7 days ago
Personally, I think cruz would be easier to beat than trump. What do you think?
glenn

7 days ago
Yes, saw that article too. There isn’t a better GOTV tool for Dems than Trump. And I do mean tool!
AdLib 7 days ago
You might be right, Cruz should be much easier to beat but Trump is a worse candidate than many realize. They talk about Dems and indies crossing over to vote for Trump but those “Dems” are racist and they sure didn’t vote for Obama.
AdLib 7 days ago
IMO, you can’t call yourself a Dem if you’re going to “cross over” to vote for trump. I see nothing in his “policy” that is Democratic, much less democratic.
glenn

7 days ago
And imagine how much more horribleness will come out of Trump when he’s running against Hillary or Bernie. Trump’s negatives haven’t peaked, he’s going to be so distasteful by Nov.
AdLib 7 days ago
sorry folks, got called away for a moment.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
And neither have his supporters’ negatives have peaked. Ugh, they are nasty people.
glenn

7 days ago
oops…supporters’ negatives peaked.
glenn

7 days ago
KT–how are you?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Exactly, I don’t consider such people honest about being Dems. Maybe they’re 1960 Dems who were pro-racism but anyone who woould vote for Trump has no principles and didn’t likely vote for Obama.
AdLib 7 days ago
He might go the other way, Ad. The last debate, showed a more subdued Trump. I think he’s trying to appear presidential now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey glenn. Doing well, and you?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–yeah, right. Trying to appear presidential by calling for a boycott on a reporter. Now, I’m not a fan of Megyn Kelly or fox news, but for someone running for president to call for a boycott of a reporter who only repeated his words back to him, is not “trying to be presidential.” Or maybe president of Russia, like putin.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Just finished watching Maddow, she laid out how Trump may be denied the nom at the GOP convention even if he has enough delegates…because the people who become those delegates would be Romney drones who would vote for Cruz.
AdLib 7 days ago
Well, I said “trying.” He can’t actually do it.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
i heard her say pretty much that the other day. I think she’s right, they really hate Trump. They know he could actually doome their party.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Nope, he won’t be able to because his supporters NEED him to be awful towards Hillary. He will go terribly negative (he already has against Hillary). He can’t run on issues because he has no real stands and can’t just cruise through a debate the way he could with fellow Repubs.
AdLib 7 days ago
I think it’s funny, that at the last dem debate Hillary made a comment that was obviously directed at Trump, though she didn’t use his name. She basically said she wasn’t going to fall for that reality TV show crap. She won’t either. I think she probably has many IQ points more than he does.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
And don’t forget, by refusing to debate this week, Trump just hit Fox News where they live, losing millions in ad revenue. Fox hates him, the GOP establishment and half of GOP voters dislike him. Trump will be buried in a GE because his schtick only works with the GOP base, it will only push more people away in the rest of America.
AdLib 7 days ago
Oh I absolutely believe that he cannot win a general. He’s just a big fish in a small pond, right now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Hillary does stumble a lot in her campaigns, when Trump went after Bill, she went silent about Trump being misogynist. So he can hurt her but in a debate? I think he would go so low to attack her, he will force more and more disgusted women to vote Hillary.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–I hate to tell the repubs (well, not really), but trump has already doomed their party. Read an article by Leonard Pitts the other day, and his question is, what about after trump? Because, in a way, there will be no “after trump”. The repubs can’t erase him, nor his supporters. If he is denied the nomination, they are going to be even angrier than they are now. If he gets the nomination and loses the GE, then who knows what they’ll do? They certainly aren’t going to go away peacefully unless the repub party repeatedly and forcefully tells them that what they want is NEVER going to happen here in the US!
glenn

7 days ago
KT – A big racist, violence inciting, lying fish that is.
AdLib 7 days ago
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Agreed, the GOP blows up whether Trump is the nom or denied the nom. I do hope they deny him the nom though, the party will splinter immediately and the motivated core will sit out the election.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–love it! But I still like the urinal one better!
glenn

7 days ago
KT!
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump the Blowfish!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I didn’t know blowfish were racist!
AdLib 7 days ago
Oh hell yeah! big time racists.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–only 45% of 50% of them!
glenn

7 days ago
A pundit proposed that the GOP convention will be insane, with big protests by Republicans and anti-Trump groups including BLM. It could be like the Dem convention in 1968!
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – Right! That shouldn’t hurt the GOP, to split in half.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hillary seems to be stumbling a lot lately. I think sometimes her poll numbers go to her head also, and she begins to make things up. That’s when she gets in trouble. If she would just stick to the issues, her take on the issues, then I think she does okay. Not that I agree with her on everything, but she does seem to self-aggrandize a bit too much for my taste.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad–I have no doubt that the gop convention is going to be insane. After all, there are no sane people left in the repub party.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – I think her amazing performance at the Benghazi hearings underlined that when she is on the defense, she seems to be strongest. When she’s feeling confident in an election, she’s capable of saying and doing all kinds of problematic things.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ah Cleveland! The Mistake on the Lake!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – Yes, which is why I’m rooting for a contested convention for the GOP. We’ve seen that when Repubs turn on themselves, it’s like wolves eating their young. And Dems should use that chaos in ads to say, “Do you want the country to be run like the GOP Convention? Vote Dem!”
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–exactly. People keep saying she would walk all over trump in a head to head debate, but I think she can get just as easily off topic as he does. As you say, when she is pushed against the ropes, is when she is her best, so maybe I’m wrong, but she has a lot of gaffes herself.
glenn

7 days ago
KT – Beautiful downtown Cleveland marred by violent protests…how would anyone notice?
AdLib 7 days ago
i disagree glenn. Hillary sat for 11 hours, being grilled by a senate investigating committee, and at the end of it, she came out smiling. She’s tough enough for Trump.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–as I keep saying, not only can Dems point to their insane convention (if it turns out to be that way), but more importantly, point to the repub led states, where education funds have been cut to the bone; people have no health insurance; the infrastructure is falling apart; and the only people who have rights are white people.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – I don’t mean to hammer on this but Hillary is not great on campaigning, we all remember the many messes she created for herself in 2008. She’s had a number of problems this time around too. It would seem more likely that even against Trump, she could take missteps that hurt her campaign. But in the end, I don’t think it could ever be bad enough for a majority to see Trump as an acceptable alternative.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–Hope you’re right, but that was about her third Benghazi hearing. At the first one, she lost it a little. I agree with what she said, when she said, “What difference does it make if they were killed by terrorists or by random people walking down the street?”, but they did rattle her in that one, IMO. Remember in a debate, you can’t consult with anyone, nor can you use notes. I’m not saying she is not well-prepared, but I think she can be rattled, too.
glenn

7 days ago
I disagree. I think Hillary will come loaded for bear.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago