• AdLib : Murph – But consider all the Repubs who’ve been primaried by the very Tea Party they supported to invigorate the party after Bush and Obama’s win in 2008.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Buh Bye!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad- Cantor put the pistol to his own head. His opponent was just the agent used by the electorate to tell him that his arrogant absenteeism was not acceptable.

  • AdLib : Keeping it for the record books, Murph!

  • AdLib : Night Harleigh! Sleep well and see you next Vox!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ok, this really is it…Midnight. One of the longest Vox’s in my memory.

  • AdLib : Murph – Tell that to Eric Cantor!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Good nite….Harleigh …

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib….but the TP is unlikely to execute the establishment GOP. I think that the Saudis et.al. are trapped by their own policy and past practice.

  • Harleigh : Well I gotta get some sleep. See ya next week guys, same bat time….

  • AdLib : And the US needs to have the balls to take on the Saudis now for supporting ISIS.

  • AdLib : Murph – But the Saudis supporting ISIS is like Repubs having backed the Tea Party, they are creating a monster that will turn on them. Do they really think ISIS won’t want to take over Saudi Arabia too as their Islamic Caliphate?

  • Harleigh : hardliners with clerics and lot of money. bad combo

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…UAE, Saudis, Qatar are all major financial backers of ISIS.

  • AdLib : Murph – True, it is a challenge to ME leaders because they’ll no doubt have some ISIS-sympathetic citizenry but it’s an existential decision, if they don’t stop ISIS before they’re at their doorstep, they could lose their country and have their citizens revolt against them then. So some difficulty now instead of invasion and takeover later.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Harleigh…since Iran is Shiite, ISIS is the enemy but your point regarding the escalation of the conflict iss well taken. Well…I am at the end of my energy….farmin g, night meetings, and working on blogging options has consumed my life….so this has been a stimulating respite.

  • Harleigh : It is real cause for concern even for me!!! to think of Iran backed ISIS and throw in some nukes and we’ll have som real problems.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…but most are so frightened of their own internal religious struggles that the courage that joining such a coalition represent a major challenge.

  • AdLib : The League of Extraordinary Nations?

  • AdLib : Murph – Seems so clear that most ME countries should be scared by the threat ISIS represents to them and should be game for banding together and being the basis for an international military coalition.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Harleigh and Ad Lib..Or the League of the Willing

  • Harleigh : LMAO!!!

  • AdLib : Harleigh – How about calling it The Justice League?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…my thoughts precisely….the playbook that George HW Bush used in the Gulf War is a good place to start…though not perfect it was restrained, specific in its measurable goals, truly multinational with much Islamic participation. Part of this should be aimed at putting Arabic states funding ISIS on the hot spot.

  • AdLib : Murph – It may be rare elsewhere, but not at The Planet. And just the fact that it can be discussed here without anger bubbling up but with thoughtfulness, it does confirm to me that such understanding can be had.

  • Harleigh : agreed adlib but we sure as hell cannot call it a coalition. That was a disaster thanks to the Bush cabal.

  • AdLib : Murph – If this isn’t the time for a global coalition (where the hell is the UN on ISIS???) to stand against these murderous fanatics, I don’t know when would be. Obama needs to do what Bush couldn’t, especially in the ME, build a coalition of nations that recognize the threat ISIS represents and use that coalition to box ISIS up. Once they suffer reverses and are on the run, their whole theory about how they are destined to take over crumbles and I think they would exponentially fall apart.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Harleigh…indee d.

  • Harleigh : We do here Murph but we are a unusual for that ability too.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Harleigh…since I do not believe in the “divine” Jesus I am less worried about his coming back than I am about our failure to live up to the message in his Good News.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…still that willingness to engage in religious discussion is rare.

  • AdLib : Murph – IMO, it is affirming of how people can get along and be kind to each other to have a discussion or debate on charged issues. It makes me optimistic because I know that we’re capable as human beings to be understanding and tolerant of others’ different beliefs.

  • Harleigh : If he comes back I bet he gets really pissed. I would not want to be a televangelist. LOL