• AdLib : As long as it’s not an Error 404 page! Night pal!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Well good night….

  • MurphTheSurf3 : We are on the same page.

  • AdLib : Got it! I do think that by the end of this month, let alone by March, the site will be working fine and the only distraction and argument the Repubs have for their re-election will be gone.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad…the enrollers are using a direct access portal which has worked from the start. Once enrolled, folks are getting info packets via the USPS. Originally the idea was that the vast majority would use the on line system and only those without computer access (or fear of it) would use the phone banks. But the phone has proven the most reliable.

  • AdLib : The folks on the phone lines though still need to use the system that’s online to enter the info they gather. So folks should be getting some confirmation that they’re signed up once that’s done.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad- I am directing people to the phone lines. I do not trust the website yet.

  • AdLib : Good game plan to have a local hero on the team.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : I have teamed up with a local woman who is a nurse and a bit of a local hero. That plus the technology is the key.

  • AdLib : CL said she’s hearing more people are successfully signing up, are you hearing the same?

  • AdLib : Very cool, Murph! Thanks for doing all that you are! You’re making a big impact in people’s lives, even if they may give you a hard time about it along the way. Glad it’s getting smoother though.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad….the midnight hour approaches….I am doing a session with another ACA adviser at a local library tomorrow. There are 22 preregistered for it. 11 are under 35. The rest are scattered in age. I have a feeling that there will be some hostility. We did another program earlier in the week with an older crowd and it has a few bumps but it was fully interactive with everyone at a computer using our on line calculators. Same tomorrow. It works.

  • AdLib : Well Murph, looks like we’re closing the Vox bar again. You can take the peanuts, I’ll take pretzels. And don’t forget, one for the road!

  • AdLib : Heh, great theme indeed for the music thread, KT. I know how you feel, it does get a bit much but at times like that, don’t forget you’re not alone on this Planet.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Take Care KT

  • KillgoreTrout : I too will say goodnight. I just wanted to pop in and say hi. Thanks folks for your kind words. I’m fine, really. Just a bit of disgust with recent shootings and all. Will mankind ever learn? It’s a do it yourself music thread, so have fun and post your faves.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Good night CL…keep up the good fight.

  • AdLib : I do imagine what red states will be like in the near future as they become festering havens for poverty and illness and I don’t see it working out well for the Red state pols.

  • KillgoreTrout : Have a great weekend CL. Thank you for your kind words. The feelings are mutual.

  • AdLib : See you CL! Any news on HOPE???

  • AdLib : CL – I think there will be big blowback from the Red states cutting off the poor from Medicaid and health insurance. When all the states around them are prospering and have people moving out of poverty and up the economic scale while they ghettoize their states, it will come back to bite them. And cutting food stamps as well as forcing the poor to go without health care, that all seems to be pouring a lot of gasoline on a simmering fire.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Choice and KT- The power of the great poets to capture our experience is astounding. Glad my two choices touched you.

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, I wish I could remember it verbatim. Emerson is one of my favorite writers. He had an excellent talent with language. Brilliant, actually.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Choice- here in Mo. I am speaking to many who are falling into the chasm you describe….and they are loyal GOP.

  • choicelady : Everyone – hubby just came home so I need to go. See you next week? Be well everyone. Murph – thank you so much for those two amazing poems. They are so important!

  • AdLib : Murph – That classic poem always puts me in awe.

  • KillgoreTrout : Murph, that is one of my favorite poems, of all time.

  • choicelady : KT – we care about you and your homie a whole lot!

  • choicelady : MURPH _ MY SECOND FAVE!!! The centre cannot hold. That scares the crap out of me, and I am determined NOT to let that come true!

  • AdLib : Murph, great quote. And KT, your reference below to Emerson was very appreciated too.

  • choicelady : Murph – it is the failure of Medicaid that has me so fearful. NYT did a feature on the rural south and all the Black and Latino people now dumped from ANY kind of health care! They are too poor for the Exchange, too “rich” for Medicaid. That is the Red Governors’ “gotcha” for POC.

  • KillgoreTrout : Thank you CL. I care about my fellow planeteers as well. My homie gave us all a scare not long ago.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Choice- How about….William Butler Yeats (1865-1939) THE SECOND COMING Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Surely some revelation is at hand; Surely the Second Coming is at hand. The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand; A shape with lion body and the head of a man, A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun, Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds. The darkness drops again but now I know That twenty centuries of stony sleep Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

  • AdLib : KT – Sometimes it does all get to be a bit much. That’s when you turn the tv off for a week, spend time outdoors, with friends and other human beings you know and connect with the life that’s going on all around you, not infected by the constant nastiness and conflict on the tv.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…Mo. is in the federal exchange, and has no medicaid expansion.

  • KillgoreTrout : Pretty wise that Wordsworth. And such a wonderful name!

  • choicelady : AdLib – that and the fact that Red states have lower populations, less money per capita, tend to be more rural – all helps on costs a lot.

  • choicelady : Murph – that is my Number One favorite poem.

  • AdLib : CL – That was a theory I was pursuing, the Federal program has many more people in it and thus could negotiate lower rates. I’d assume that’s a big factor in the discrepancy.

  • choicelady : KT – I hope our constant love and care for you helps a little. It’s hard when you’ve never seen us and haven’t a clue what we look like (I of course DO resemble a chess pawn) but we do care about you so much!