• AdLib : One recall is close and in favor of recall, another is heavily against recall: «link»

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib – de Blasio would have my vote…any word on Colorado recalls.

  • AdLib : BTW – De Blasio at 37% right now!

  • AdLib : Kes – Like those cartoon chipmunks! “No after you!”

  • kesmarn : G’night again!

  • kesmarn : Heh… they could go ’round in endless circles on that one AdLib! “You first. No, you first!”

  • AdLib : See you on Friday, Murph!

  • AdLib : Night Kes! Keeping my fingers crossed for all of us including Obama.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : And on that question…I think I shall head to bed…see y’all on Friday.

  • kesmarn : Well, kiddos, I guess I’ll bow out too. Prayers for our hard-working Prez tonight. Wouldn’t want to be in his shoes, although he himself does a great job of filling them.

  • AdLib : So if COngress passes a resolution permitting an attack if Syria doesn’t disarm on chem weapons by a fixed date, will Russia claim that violates its demand that no attack be voted for?

  • AdLib : Good question, Murph. Was the demand by Russia just another stall and manipulation or earnest?

  • kesmarn : I’ll feel better if there’s a signed, sealed delivered agreement. Then the onus is on Syria and Russia.

  • AdLib : And the UN report should be out this week I believe, confirming the use of chemical weapons and the delivery systems which I think will confirm Assad was behind it. That should push Syria and Russia into the frying pan on making the agreement happen.

  • kesmarn : Well — if nothing else it has bought some time for possibly cooler heads to prevail.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Putin said that he could not represent a negotiated solution if the U.S. voted for a military strike- so Obama asked the Congress to table his request….NOW will the Russians return the favor an support a Security Council meeting on this.

  • AdLib : Kes – Same here, I was very relieved at the news of the agreement but as time has passed, I have become a bit skeptical about it really happening.

  • kesmarn : I was letting myself get pretty elated earlier today. Have to keep reminding myself that it ain’t over till it’s over.

  • AdLib : Kes – Yep, Jesus might get more into his moneychangers ass-kicking mode on those exploiting him for money, power and the mass murders of innocent human beings.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Kes….yes.

  • kesmarn : Keeping the pressure on, Murph.

  • AdLib : Even though there is a possibility for a diplomatic resolution, we shouldn’t believe it’s a probability.

  • kesmarn : Jesus in reality would probably throw those phony Christians out of the temple. Lock ’em up forever in the Creation Museum in KY with the other plastic dinosaurs.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Kes- Pelosi, it seems to me, is saying that force is still likely and that its up to the Syrians and Russians to keep it from happening.”

  • AdLib : Murph – So true, dealing with Putin is like dealing with a gangster…becau se he is one. And gangsters can’t be taken at their word.

  • AdLib : Kes – WWJDTBAAA – What Would Jesus Do to Bring About an Apocolypse?

  • kesmarn : I’m trying not to read too much into her words, AdLib. I hope it’s just that and no more.

  • AdLib : Kes – I think Pelosi is supporting Obama on keeping the threat of force alive to pressure Syria.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Today on Al Jazeera a specialist on Russian political history made this comment: “Putin was a Communist KGB Thug and then he was a Democratic Revolutionary Thug and now he is a Russian Nationalist Thug. The common denominator….t hug.”

  • kesmarn : Yes. What could be more Christian than praying for the ME to go up in flames? Arghhhh! These people!

  • AdLib : Night Sabreen, see you on Friday!

  • kesmarn : G’night, Sabreen!

  • Sabreen60 : Good night folks. Hope to be back Friday.

  • AdLib : As CL referred to, the RW Christian types here are hoping for a ME inferno because they think it will bring The Rapture, they’re all for things going “to hell” there.

  • kesmarn : Nancy Pelosi’s latest Tweet: “Pres. Obama’s leadership brought diplomatic solutions back to the table, shows his willingness to exhaust every remedy before use of force.” Is she saying force will likely be used?

  • kesmarn : Yeah, AdLib. I’m beginning to wonder if keeping a strike still on the table is more than just a rhetorical device or bargaining chip…

  • AdLib : Kes – Putin is known for being crooked as a pretzel so Obama is right in being very skeptical about this as being a possible ploy instead of a real solution.

  • kesmarn : I mean, this civil war could go on indefinitely then…?

  • kesmarn : It kinda gives me the creeps then, if this negotiated settlement is actually a way of prolonging stalemate in Syria and works to Pooty’s advantage in that sense.

  • AdLib : However, Putin is such a snake, I could also imagine that he uses the prospects of a proposal to block the US from acting but they could drag it out endlessly so that it never happens.

  • AdLib : Murph – Agree with you on that, Russia is looking down the barrel of a possible Islamist Syria which would be a nightmare come true for them as well as the rest of the world. That sure seems like strong enough motivation.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Choice- perhaps…just brainstorming right now.

  • Sabreen60 : Good night CL.

  • kesmarn : G’night, C’lady!

  • AdLib : Seeya CL!

  • choicelady : Good night all – off to dinner. Or what facsimile I can whip up. Back week after this for Vox. See y’all then!

  • kesmarn : Aww..give kitteh an extra hug as he’s about to lose his manhood. He’ll go from “Krakken” to Mitch McConnell overnight.

  • AdLib : Cheers AB!

  • choicelady : Murph!!! You may well be on to something really important! See? I KNEW the history prof would figure it out. I think that may well be the motivating factor.

  • AdLib : AB – Heh! We call that “Getting a Boehner”.

  • AlphaBitch : Eat well, CL. Nice to see you. And thanks again, Ad.

  • choicelady : AB – Obama was gentle with Putin, too. Yup – a good thing you’re doing.

  • kesmarn : Sabreen, what did Matthews say? I don’t have cable access.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : I think that one of the things going on here for Putin is his fear of the kind of Islamic radicalism that set Chechnya ablaze. He has Islamic republics on his border that are fundamentalist and zealous. It is those folks who will be a huge problem in any transition of power. I think Putin wants to be part of a worked out solution and not one that happens in the midst of chaos.

  • choicelady : AdLib – you well may be right, and that makes a ton of sense. As I said, there’s just this feeling that there’s something more… Not a shred of evidence about it or what it could be.

  • AdLib : Sabreen – Matthews has been melting down since he lost his timeslot.

  • AlphaBitch : My kitteh’s gonads become no-nads on Thursday. I need to go cuddle him knowing what is happening. Kinda like Obama/putin, right?

  • kesmarn : That was my thought, too, AdLib.

  • AdLib : Kes – I think you’re right, it would lay the groundwork for a globally backed attack if Syria reneges on an agreement.

  • Sabreen60 : OMG. I don’t know what OMB stands for.