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Vox Populi – 4-19-2013

AdLib On April - 19 - 2013

  • AdLib : Thanks! See you later!

  • SallyT : You have a good night sleep and I will see you later around the planet.

  • AdLib : Okay, I’ll roll the dice this week! I’d imagine it will be good just because they can talk about nailing the bombers! Sleep well Sally and see you here tomorrow!

  • SallyT : Gee, AdLib, I have to read my post a dozen times to catch all my mistakes!

  • SallyT : So, I can’t give you a heads up.

  • AdLib : Leave ’em laughing!

  • SallyT : Okay, I will let you go and I didn’t watch Real Time so I can give you a heads up.

  • SallyT : Nothing political just a funny.

  • SallyT : That is how I try to end it. With a funny funny.

  • AdLib : Yep, always end with a smile!

  • SallyT : End with a little mix of climate, TV, and such.

  • SallyT : After the states and local i go to world news.

  • SallyT : Thanks, I try to keep to a pattern. I just figure it is Boston and it belongs in the states and not Washington DC stuff.

  • AdLib : Right, you make the call, it’s always well done!

  • SallyT : I kind of start with a couple touching on it at first but go into the usual Washington DC topics. More on how the week goes.

  • AdLib : Well…it is a national story though. I think that’s your lead, the biggest national story of the week.

  • SallyT : I am leaving the Boston bombing in the local State section. I figure it was best there. Comes after the gun control bill and congress.

  • AdLib : Right! Well, should be a lot of great, feelgood comics this weekend and I’ll bet a strong readership!

  • SallyT : When I sort them by topic as much as I can.

  • AdLib : Gotcha!

  • SallyT : Right, I use that. But, sometimes the other is easier to find and move from.

  • AdLib : The button I’m talking about isn’t the preview function, it’s a full page editing page. Much better for writing and inserting graphics than the regular box IMO.

  • SallyT : I think it is the different cartoons from different sites that gets it all mixed up.

  • AdLib : That happens to me too sometimes when using graphics, I always preview and re-read my own posts before posting.

  • SallyT : But, I just use the preview as a map and go back to edit and fix.

  • SallyT : I do use that at times. It is funny tho, I think I have everything the right size, in order, and spaced. I hit preview and it doesn’t look anything like I thought it would!

  • AdLib : Excellent!

  • SallyT : I also finally figure out where to change the font when it goes into different sizes on me.

  • AdLib : One more helpful hint, in the toolbar, click the square icon next to the ABC icon, it will give you a full screen view which makes posting much easier IMO because you can see everything. Then you just click “Exit FullScreen” to go back. Try it, I think you’ll like it for composing.

  • SallyT : If I get it too long it goes into a second line.

  • SallyT : I met mark my screen with a mark

  • SallyT : I have to make my screen with something each time to make sure I don’t get the line too long.

  • AdLib : Perfect!

  • SallyT : I figured out on my own that if I add an underline between the cartoons, it keeps them from running into each other.

  • AdLib : That was the software’s bad, those boxes should have been checked.

  • SallyT : I have it now! Thanks! I will get better!

  • AdLib : Everything showing up now?

  • AdLib : Cool!!!

  • SallyT : Well, that made a difference!

  • AdLib : I find it easier to navigate with 2 columns but if you don’t like it, you can keep all the sections in one column.

  • AdLib : Also make sure you’ve selected the button beside “2 Columns” in the Screen Options pulldown.

  • SallyT : I have it open in another window. I will go look.

  • SallyT : Below is the Tags, Categories, Featured Image.

  • AdLib : Hmm, maybe your screen doesn’t have that option selected. Can you go to your Edit Post now? In the upper right corner of the screen, just under where it says, Howdy Sally, there is a pull down box labeled “Screen Options”. Click on it and make sure all of the boxes are checked, especially the Excerpt box. Then they should all appear.

  • SallyT : I see Edit Post, the tile space, the tool bar, then where the cartoons would be entered.

  • SallyT : I am so sorry AdLib, but I don’t.

  • AdLib : Right, at the top it says, Edit Post, below that comes the toolbar, the post text entry box where you write then the next section should be labeled, Excerpt. Do you see it?

  • SallyT : I will try to find it. I don’t see it now. What is slug?

  • AdLib : The Excerpt section is below where you enter your post, in the same middle column. So after you’re done with your post, scroll down until you see the Excerpt header then in the narrow box, paste a brief paragraph introducing that week’s post.

  • SallyT : I am looking at it now and it says EDIT POST, then the title.

  • SallyT : Now one more time on the excerpt. It is at the top?

  • AdLib : Oh! Well, you can do that, it works just the same.

  • SallyT : That is because I cut and paste it from the week befores.

  • AdLib : Like you usually do, it’s always there when I review the post!

  • SallyT : I insert it?

  • AdLib : Yep, it should be there!

  • AdLib : That is, once you’ve added the comic strip image at the top of your post, the file appears as an option for Featured Image. So insert it in the post first.

  • SallyT : And, it will be there when I preview?

  • AdLib : You’ll find the Featured Image link on the right column at the bottom of the page, same column the categories are in. Once you’ve added the comic strip image, it will show up as a choice for Featured Image.

  • SallyT : Got it!

  • AdLib : You’ll have a whole new happy batch tomorrow! Thanks so much! And the excerpt section is labeled just that, in the same column as the posting box, just below it.

  • SallyT : And, the comic strip….I hit feature and even though it doesn’t show up top, it will be there?

  • SallyT : And, where do I put the excerpt?

  • SallyT : And the date.

  • SallyT : I’ll try to remember the tags!

  • AdLib : Looking forward to them!

  • AdLib : Absolutely, that’s totally fine!

  • SallyT : Can I have until 10pm tomorrow?

  • SallyT : Yes, same here.

  • AdLib : It’s been a while but nice to close the Vox bar with you again, Sally!

  • SallyT : Sounds about right.

  • AdLib : The plumber?

  • SallyT : Okay, the smartest guy in the room then.

  • AdLib : He has a scientist?

  • SallyT : He has his scientist checking to see if they can use a rice cooker.

  • AdLib : Actually, NK is a giant pressure cooker.

  • SallyT : True.

  • AdLib : Kim Jong Un can actually fit inside a pressure cooker.

  • SallyT : I met launch!

  • SallyT : lauch

  • SallyT : Kim is still trying to figure out how to lauch one tho.

  • AdLib : Sally – Well, we know it’s not for food because they don’t have any in NK.

  • AdLib : No good guy in that fight.

  • SallyT : I heard that NKorea, Kim has ordered a shipment of Pressurer Cookers from China!

  • AdLib : Yep. In some cases, both sides of a fight could be nasty. That’s the Russia/Chechen battle.

  • SallyT : Right, that was it, AdLibl.

  • SallyT : Putin said that he knew all about the, whatever that was they are from. Told the President he didn’t have to tell him how dangerous they are.

  • AdLib : Putin did an “I told ya so!” on Chechens being in league with Al Qaeda, to justify his iron fist against them.

  • SallyT : The President did talk to Putin today.

  • AdLib : Night Murph!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ok checking out for good.

  • AdLib : Good thing we don’t have a President Romney, we’d probably have launched a war against Russia by now.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…I don’t think they were able to use a robot because the boat was high off the ground and there was no ramping device. From the conversation,I think they decided to take a gamble.

  • SallyT : Oh, maybe it was a robot and not a bomb sniffing dog.

  • AdLib : Night Funk, I’ll second that boring week request!

  • SallyT : But, I couldn’t remember what it was called. Thanks Murph!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally…yep…th ought you might like the link.

  • AdLib : Murph – True, I’ll bet the infrared images helped them determine that he was not as much of a threat. And knowing he was bleeding from a gunshot wound for an entire day, probably a good guess that he wouldn’t be able to do much. And I heard they sent in a robot to check it out first, is that the case?

  • SallyT : Right, Murph, that is what I was saying.

  • SallyT : I thought they sent a dog in to sniff first?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally…gun powder tracers called taggants are old news…blocked by the NRA…see «link»

  • SallyT : Good night Funk!

  • funksands : Night all. Here’s to a really boring week next week. *clink

  • AdLib : Funk – The NRA is actually on a campaign to tell people to “chill out” and basically, forget about guns. Not this time.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Hey- I am back….for a moment…just listening to some last minute news and the question was asked- how is the police made the decision to go to the boat and get him when he was not responding. it could have so easily been a trap with an explosive device to take out anyone he could. Brave police.

  • funksands : It feels like there is a shift in perception out on the hustings. The NRA is ceasing to be politically useful for too many politicians. Keeping them in the public eye month after month is not good for these blood-suckers.

  • AdLib : Sally – That’s using common sense and you know the NRA opposes that. Because of course, one day when the US becomes a tyrannical dictatorship, we can’t have our guns and gunpowder registered because we’ll need it to defeat the US Marines, Navy, Air Force and CIA. And all we’ll need are handguns and homemade bombs.

  • SallyT : As my hubby said, why would a good guy care if you could trace the bullets or the powder?

  • AdLib : How does that not apply to the NRA? Here’s the link to the definition: «link»

  • AdLib : Funk, here’s the definitions of terrorism: terrorism   Use Terrorism in a sentence ter·ror·ism [ter-uh-riz-uhm] noun 1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. 2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization. 3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

  • SallyT : I think they are afraid for their money guys, the manufacturers, don’t want anyway for them to be traced and held in anyway responsible.

  • AdLib : Sally – Right, that makes a lot of sense…so of course the NRA opposed it.

  • funksands : They are minions sent to do a very dirty, bloody job.

  • AdLib : Sally – I say it as no exaggeration, the NRA is a terroist organization, the very definition of terrorist.

  • SallyT : AdLib, that was there, too. But, the gun powder could help with tracing bombs and the NRA was against it.

  • SallyT : Funk, it was something like that but the NRA didn’t what it because that could trace you back to the seller and the gun.

  • AdLib : Sally – No, I didn’t know about that. I do know that there was a bill about putting serial numbers on bullets that was killed. Now that would be a great idea to bring back.

  • funksands : Sally, I think so. Sounds familiar.

  • AdLib : Funk – Heh!

  • SallyT : Did you guys hear that there was a bill years ago that wanted to put a coloring of some sort in gun powder so it could be traced but the NRA had that over turned?

  • funksands : Ad, it was pretty funny last night. You’d be reading the the #Watertown timeline and all of the sudden you’d see 30 tweets saying “Is that cop listening to Bruno Mars?…”

  • AdLib : Night Patsy, good to see you, hope to see you more often!

  • AdLib : I don’t think anyone but the braindead Baggers will give much attention to the Repubs attacking Obama over trying Dzhokar in criminal court. They will look like the unpatriotic asses they are, trying to use a terrorist attack to slam our President.

  • SallyT : Good night Patsy!

  • funksands : Patsy, great seeing you. Stay out of trouble.

  • PatsyT : It is great to check in with you all I have got to turn in.. still have a bad cold and another jam packed weekend coming up kid duties. So nighty Night to you dear planet folks

  • AdLib : Funk – After your filling me in on that, I downloaded a police scanner app for my iPhone. I am prepared now…

  • SallyT : Funk, that hurts! I have done it, too, before it had cooled enough.

  • funksands : Sally, I’ve done that. Once. :-(

  • AdLib : It’s great for cooking up Republican talking points, just one sniff and you say, “That’s a load of crock!”

  • PatsyT : Now crock pot don’t blow up, they are peaceful

  • SallyT : Just don’t pick one up while plugged in and heated.

  • funksands : Ad, Boston PD were trolling twitter reading the postings even as twitter users were listening to them. Apparently it even led to a few wrong turns by the police! Wow.

  • SallyT : Crock pots are much safer, AdLib!

  • AdLib : Does that count?

  • AdLib : I’ve got a crock pot.

  • AdLib : Sally – Sorry to hear that!

  • AdLib : Funk – There was so much social media involvement marbled through the events, each affecting each other. Kind of amazing and not at all what I’d bet the inventors of Twitter ever envisioned…tha t they would be an indispensable anti-terrorism tool.

  • SallyT : My mother had one blow up and burned her arm very badly!

  • funksands : Ad, wouldn’t it be terrible if that’s all it was about? Sheesh, I hate even thinking something that stupid.

  • PatsyT : Ha tonight for dinner… that was a one dish explosive mix of exciting south of the boarder flavor

  • SallyT : Those damn pressure cookers are dangerous when used for their intended purpose.

  • AdLib : Patsy – What’s for dinner tomorrow night?

  • funksands : We had almost 500k people listening in on police scanners on their computers and phone and triangulating that with social media postings from locals in Watertown. Staggering what effect that had on the case, both positive and negative.

  • AdLib : Sally – And what about the coincidence that the mother may have been caught shoplifting at that very Lord and Taylors that caught her sons setting down the bombs? Wow…

  • PatsyT : Now I am going to have to keep an eye on that pressure cooker in my cupboard

  • SallyT : Well, that store camera did help.

  • AdLib : And very satisfying, of course. And healing can begin for many now.

  • AdLib : Funk and Patsy, so true, thanks to this digital/social media age, we were able to identify then catch these terrorists. It’s just kind of stunning.

  • SallyT : Funk, I think that did play a big part.

  • funksands : How much longer would it have taken without social media?

  • PatsyT : ADLib that news in the digital age

  • AdLib : Just as so many were getting their fear on…it’s over.

  • AdLib : Very weird but it does seem like a condensed event that’s happened, it began and ended in the same week. Kind of surreal for something to be so huge yet be resolved so swiftly.

  • funksands : Amen Sally. Back to normalcy for a while.

  • SallyT : Good night, KT! See you later around here!

  • AdLib : Night KT! See you on the Music Thread!

  • PatsyT : Nighty Night KT!

  • funksands : Night KT!

  • AdLib : #CNNHeadlines: John King reports UFO landing on WH lawn. Correction, WH lawn being watered.

  • SallyT : The boat sunk!

  • KillgoreTrout : Goodnight dear folks. Hope to see you on the weekend music thread.

  • funksands : “…wearing a hoodie…”

  • PatsyT : Dark Skinned Boat

  • SallyT : I hope that we can get back to yelling at congress for not doing their job on the gun bill!

  • AdLib : Patsy – Will check them out. Do they all include the phrase “dark-skinned” ?

  • PatsyT : #CNNHeadlines … just in .Suspect on a boat, coast guard being called in. … Wolf?

  • AdLib : KT – Agreed, this is a moment for relief and ease, totally agree!

  • SallyT : Patsy, I have a lot of cartoons on the Media mess ups this past week. Some are really funny.

  • PatsyT : AdLib, no its on Twitter… Some of the #CNNHeadlines

  • AdLib : Really weird, just had a cutaway to a crowd cheering on MSNBC and at first I thought it was a replay of the crowd screaming after the bombing…actual ly, kind of cool that the exhortations of people in Boston have changed from one end of the spectrum to the other.

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, I am somewhat divided on making this weekends music thread about triumph or tragedy. I have decided to make it about fun and less about human misery. Just a brief respite from such heavy events and emotions.

  • SallyT : The axle of evil!

  • AdLib : Patsy – How do you know, did someone start watching CNN again?

  • SallyT : Oh, yes, KT! I forgot about how we reacted to it and how that effected the world!

  • AdLib : The US panicked after 9/11 and changed in a very bad way. There were many ways we needed to change but sacrificing so much power to the President and giving up so much of our right to privacy was not necessary. And the Bushies took advantage to force through many bad changes to our laws. So, we didn’t have to change in such a panic and to such an extreme but we did need to change.

  • funksands : KT “We have met the enemy….”

  • KillgoreTrout : Sally, of course. But look at our influence in the middle east and Asia, because of the events of 911. Two wars and thousands of bombs and innocent people killed. We’ll never go back to the way it was.

  • SallyT : Okay, but I do want you to have them in time to get them posted as early as possible on Sunday. So, after 10pm on Saturday is still okay? I really need to help the hubby with planting the garden tomorrow.

  • funksands : It’s okay Patsy, the walking dead feel no pain. They’ll get over it.

  • PatsyT : Speaking of funny… CNN is really getting grief

  • AdLib : Sally, I can always publish the Funnies on Sunday so whenever you can, we’ll make it work!

  • SallyT : KT, can I make a correction? The US changed after 9-11, the rest of the world had already been living with this kind of thing happening way to often.

  • funksands : The relief in that town must have been palpable. Locals were posting pictures on line of answering their doors to National Guardsmen, pictures of snipers on top of their tool sheds, pictures of soldiers looking in basements. Very stressful I would imagine.

  • KillgoreTrout : Exactly Sally.

  • KillgoreTrout : The world changed after 911 and will never be the same as it was pre 911. This is a double edged sword.

  • SallyT : Union police and tax dollars at work!

  • SallyT : Patsy, I did, too.

  • KillgoreTrout : Funk, it was quite impressive and/or scary, depending on how you look at it.

  • SallyT : AdLib, off topic….how late do I have to turn in the cartoons on Saturday?

  • PatsyT : I liked how the folks cheered them on after they caught the guy.

  • funksands : Ad, for sure. Just striking is all.

  • SallyT : KT, you would think they would see from this that they can’t stand off the government, not even the local government! No way they have enough gun power to do it!

  • KillgoreTrout : Later Murph, keep those plants alive.

  • AdLib : Funk – The downside to the militarization of the police was seen during OWS but in this case, have to say I’m pleased it was there.

  • KillgoreTrout : Ha Sally, that is exactly what about 98% of the assault weapons freaks believe.

  • SallyT : Good night Murph!

  • funksands : KT, you are right of course. I was just struck at the sheer size of the mobilized force. I forget how militarized our metro police forces have become.

  • AdLib : I tried to get into Game of Thrones this season…like trying to stick your head into a keyhole.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : The best to one and all.

  • PatsyT : Thats what I thought funk… maybe over the summer

  • funksands : Night Murph! Keep it real and have a great weekend!

  • AdLib : Thanks Murph! Will email you back over the weekend!

  • funksands : Patsy, its really good. But DO NOT start anywhere but the beginning, you’ll be totally lost.

  • KillgoreTrout : Funk, it wasn’t exactly a moment’s notice. After 911. all police and intell agencies were required to share info and responses by law enforcement. I think this is why they could assemble as quickly as they did. This wasn’t seen as just an attack on th city of Boston, but an attack on the entire nation.

  • PatsyT : Great to see you Murph!

  • funksands : Sally, it so easy for RWNJ’s to parrot intellectual dishonesty isn’t it? I’ve got a whole set of in-laws who can do it instantaneously.

  • PatsyT : I want to see Game of T but from the start… hate to come in to it midway.

  • SallyT : You would think after see the government in action, they would see how stupid that thinking is.

  • AdLib : Funk – We saw this with OWS, when those in charge want to put force out there to dominate, they can do it quickly. Just glad that this time it was aimed at America’s enemies instead of citizens exercising their Constitutional rights.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Well folks….I am up at dawn these days to plant and I need to get the covers off the plants before the frost melts on to them…so adieu….glad to have this fine forum to think rationally, to analyze well and to laugh.

  • SallyT : Funk, but that is why we all need guns, so we can face off the govenmt when it comes to put us in those camps!

  • funksands : I have this picture in my mind of Pope Ratzo wandering around his new house shouting “Winter is Coming!” (any Game of Thrones fans???)

  • KillgoreTrout : Patsy, I don’t know the terms for such dress, but they are dresses and robes and jewels.

  • AdLib : Or bomb bears.

  • funksands : Patsy, his name is Gunther and Ratzo is not Pope anymore….

  • AdLib : Patsy – Yep! Just waiting for the NRA to lobby for A New 2nd Amendment that gives Americans the right to bear bombs.

  • SallyT : I got a thing from one of my RW friends that said they are going to make you register your pressure cooker now. I said I don’t have a problem with that if they register their guns.

  • funksands : Kind of off topic, but geez is it easy to mobilize a huge highly weaponized police force at a moment’s notice. Very interesting.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Patsy..khakis and a T

  • KillgoreTrout : Murph, LOL!

  • AdLib : Funk – Yes, the idea that these two could literally mass murder their friends and neighbors…then go right back to going to school with them…shows such a disconnect from humanity. They killed or injured at least some friends or relatives of people they knew! So yes, they were capable of doing this on their own.

  • PatsyT : What does the Pope were when he plays dress up?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : KT….if you have ever seen Cardinal Burke, the makeup comment would not be there.

  • KillgoreTrout : Murph, the pope and his minions dress in drag. Sans makeup. :)

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…yes…the zeal is pumped in and just enough direction to be a potential source of mayhem. Then send them home.

  • PatsyT : AdLib, I am going to having the kids put some of those pressure cooker bombs in their backpack before school… cause you know they may run into a bad guy with a …

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Patsy….isn’t the Ayatollah already in drag

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, I know from experience, that in such a state you either don’t dream at all, or you don’t remember upon awakening. I do get your point thought. I would say he’s probably thinking..how in the world did I let myself get talked into this insane scheme.

  • AdLib : Very clever image, Patsy!

  • PatsyT : Cross dressing Iranians …

  • AdLib : Murph – Yep, similar to the Times Square attempted bomber. Someone sucked into the extremist mindset then sent back home to launch an attack. Not necessarily as literally being soldiers following orders but made into madmen and turned loose on the US.

  • funksands : Murph, that is my most sincere hope.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Patsy…how about Gay Koreans in Blackface?

  • PatsyT : AdLib Opps bad for the Neo Cons They want the bomber to be Koreans or Gays

  • funksands : Patsy, no right is safe when it comes to terrorists if we can save one life. Not one life matters when it comes to protecting gun rights.

  • AdLib : Night Bourne! We’re going to go toe to toe with the NRA, they’re not used to it but they’ll need to get used to that…and losing.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Funk…we are on the same page re. the issue of local guys doing local dirty business with inspiration, and little else, from abroad.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : KT- an auto weapon, really. Now that would be interesting.

  • KillgoreTrout : Have a wonderful weekend Bourne.

  • AdLib : KT – You’re probably right, he could be unconscious now…but what is he dreaming about? Police shooting at him?

  • SallyT : I agree with your gut, Murph. I think they would have had an exit plan and money if they had backing.

  • PatsyT : Have you guys seen this… its precious «link»

  • KillgoreTrout : Murph I think one of the brothers had an automatic weapon. You can’t get those on the internet. The explosives? I don’t know. I do know there are instructions on the internet on how to build IEDs.

  • AdLib : Sally – Oh, I’m sure they were following the MSM closely right after their attack and feeling overconfident on that first day.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Good night Bourne….see ya later.

  • funksands : The fact that these guys were locals harming the town they live in leads me to think there isn’t much beyond the surface.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : KT … we shall see how correct I am, but my gut takes me there.

  • PatsyT : Hi and Bye Bourne

  • AdLib : Patsy – Look for Repubs to attack Obama for being anti-business for not launching a war against an unrelated country before catching the terrorists.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad….if there is a network, I suspect it is very loose and that its training was more indoctrination than developing a super soldier with a tactical edge.

  • funksands : Bourne good night and good luck!

  • SallyT : Patsy, I don’t know but it can lead to sex sometimes.

  • BourneID : Hey all. It’s been so interesting but I’m beginning to fade here. I have to do my own housework now since I can’t pay the servants any more. I vacuumed today and that did me in. Have a good weekend and good week. What are we going to do about the NRA?

  • PatsyT : Isn’t Tequila truth syrup?

  • KillgoreTrout : Murph, I think you are absolutely right.

  • AdLib : Murph – I think you nailed it, agree with your proposition. Only thing I’d add is that it would be connected to a terrorist network, the one in Russia that trained and set the older brother on his mission.

  • SallyT : How about some truth syrup?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : KT- their weapons, the bombs, can be found on the internet and instructions for attacks can be found at the AQ on line Mag, Inspire…the guns…well I do not know what they had but we know how easy it isto get guns.

  • PatsyT : Hey KilgoreT Fine & Busy Thanks for asking

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, I’m pretty sure he is unconscious right now. He lost a lot of blood and he surely has received some pain killers. Maybe even an induced coma.

  • SallyT : I wonder what they thought, if they were listening, when it was thought they bomb the JFK Library, too?

  • KillgoreTrout : Hey Hey Patsy! How are you?

  • PatsyT : Well we got that terrorist and did so without foreign war adventures that cost umpteen Billions

  • MurphTheSurf3 : I think when it all shakes out we are going to find that older brother went to Russia and got religion. He came back all juiced up with ideas, a little training, and a general plan. The fever he got there, he passed on to little brother who had always looked up to him as a father figure. And thus two mini amateur jihadists were born. Both bright. And they planned the bombing (and I suspect subsequent targets) well…). They were not prepared for it to come apart as it did and their amateur status showed last night and today. And yes, they are not part of any network or cell system.

  • AdLib : Or would he need to believe what he did was worth it and will somehow lead to the Black Banners of Khurasan?

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, I have to believe that others were involved, if it was only to supply them with such dangerous weapons.

  • SallyT : Regret getting caught.

  • AdLib : What do you think is going through Dzhokhar’s mind right now? He and his brother thought they were so clever, could commit their horrific act and then just go back to their lives as they prepared to do it again. Now, his brother is dead, he’s shot and he must know that he will likely get the death penalty and not have a meaningful death. Wonder if there’s any regret?

  • KillgoreTrout : One of the brothers actually went to class the very next day after the bombings. And they never thought about all the cameras in this world?

  • SallyT : Of course, if they were suppose to blow themselves up, too, they didn’t follow the plan.

  • PatsyT : Say Hey Murph!

  • SallyT : Funk, I am with you on that. I think if it was more involved, they would have had a better exit plan.

  • PatsyT : Thanks Funk

  • AdLib : Funk – Either way, it is two disturbed young men who literally did this. Only question is, are there others who helped set them on that path.

  • funksands : Patsy don’t you lift your boot off their neck!!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Patsy…greeting s…did not know you had joined the party

  • PatsyT : Hey AdLib!

  • funksands : Ad, this strikes me as very “Colombine-ish “. I really hope its just two really disturbed young men.

  • PatsyT : Ha Ha Funk no destruction just decommission

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally…Verizon was doing it to force me to upgrade from 3G to 4G….and since then no drops, so far…..

  • AdLib : Hey Patsy!!!

  • funksands : Destroyer of San Onfre! Welcome to the Planet!

  • SallyT : Murph, is that what it is? I thought Comcast was just trying to make me pay more for a faster connection or something.

  • AdLib : I think mist people want him to live so we can find out what was in their minds to do such a horrible thing. But most importantly, to learn who else might have been connected to them and the attack.

  • KillgoreTrout : I have no doubt at all, that law enforcement got the right guys. No question at all.

  • funksands : Apparently there were almost 400,000 people listening on on the Boston PD scanners last night. Wow.

  • PatsyT : Funk, it starts out with April fools… so maybe that has something to do with it.

  • SallyT : I’m there for ya, Funk!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally…Verizon does the same thing…a fakeout.

  • SallyT : I hope he lives, too. I hope we get some answers to all the some of the questions out there at least.

  • funksands : Sally that is so sweet.

  • KillgoreTrout : Well funk, blood is thicker than water, as the saying goes.

  • AdLib : KT – There is a massive amount of evidence against both brothers. Just the eyewitness who was carjacked and to whom they confessed could have been enough but they shot at police and the older had a bomb strapped to himself when he was shot!

  • SallyT : I would tell them, Funk, you are a nice guy for a nutjob!

  • funksands : I sure hope this kid lives through the night.

  • funksands : Bourne, when it comes to family I don’t how objective anyone is going to be in situation like this. If I was ever on the run from the law, I would hope my aunts would go on tv and let the world know what a nice guy I am. (My aunts don’t like me much though, so wishful thinking).

  • KillgoreTrout : Well, the shoot outs with the cops and the killing of an MIT gaurd pretty much points to their guilt. Plus car jacking and attempted robbery.

  • AdLib : KT – True, Madoff is in jail.

  • AdLib : Bourne – The father, mother, aunt and no doubt other family members are nutjobs. No wonder the kids turned out so twisted. And none of the family has been in touch with them for years!

  • KillgoreTrout : The wealthy don’t always get away scott free, but many of them do. How to stop that sort of thing is beyond me.

  • funksands : What is it about April and Nutjobs??

  • AdLib : Sally! There you are!

  • SallyT : Bourne, I was typing for you to call the FBI right now and I lost my internet! dumdada dum!

  • funksands : Sally, just the NSA doing a little spring cleaning…nothi ng to worry about.

  • KillgoreTrout : Funk….LOL!

  • BourneID : Pj Gpd O dod ot agaom/ Tje aunt said the boys were set up. She was always set up in Chenya. They’re innocent and it’s the same here. they were just set up. Had I interviewed her I would probably have asked if it is the same here, why did you come?

  • AdLib : KT – Point well taken. We do need to fix our justice system when it comes to allowing the wealthy an escape hatch but we don’t want to further compromise it.

  • SallyT : Hey, I lost you all! My internet went off. It said I was connected but I guess it lies. Comcast!

  • funksands : KT!! Welcome to the Planet!

  • KillgoreTrout : Oh, I feel so dumb. I guess they were talking about the baseball team.

  • AdLib : Bourne – When someone goes to the lengths this nutjob did to stalk you, that’s too far. And you’ll be helping others he’s stalking by having the FBI pay him a serious call.

  • BourneID : Sally did you see the interview of the suspect’s aunt? She said tje bpus were

  • KillgoreTrout : Funk…? They are Yankees.

  • AdLib : Funk – But when they said, “Yankees suck!” they said it with love.

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, I’m not so sure about corruption when it comes to rich folk.

  • AdLib : Night glenn! Cheer her on indeed! My daughter has a baseball game tomorrow and I’ll be doing the same! Night!

  • BourneID : I should know better. I worked for a federal investigative agency and that is why I haven’t done anything yet because I over-think whether or not I shold report this. I know I should. <ur[h and AdLib I read upir cp,,emts ear;oer abpit Bog Brother and how we value our privacy. {eople like these to San Diego guys know more about us than we know about ourselves. Access to my unlisted phone makes me uneasy. <ir[h, one very clos friend knows about this. I forwarded the link and he was as disgusted as i about the truly deranged people who hate this president. I read that the President receives more threats in one month than most did in an entire term. Thanks for your good advice. I’ll let you know what cmes up. I took this really seriously on Sunday.

  • funksands : I love how the crowd in Watertown erupted in “Yankees Suck” as the police were driving away! :-)

  • funksands : Night Glenn!

  • AdLib : Funk, “If anyone’s gonna trash our town, it’s us!”

  • KillgoreTrout : Funk, I don’t know about that. They are known to keep a well stocked shelf. :)

  • glenn : Good night all. Granddaughter’s early soccer game tomorrow, and I have to get my sleep to be able to cheer her and her team on! Once again, kudos to the Boston PD, FBI, and all law enforcement agencies involved this week!

  • funksands : Ad, put that cah in pahk and come on in…

  • AdLib : KT – What I think should make our justice system great is that we don’t allow anything to corrupt it.

  • funksands : They’ll probably burn the city to the ground. That’ll show the terrorists they can’t win.

  • AdLib : Video of a crowd at Boston Common right now, cheering and celebrating. Fantastic!

  • KillgoreTrout : What I would suggest is not exactly an American ideal. I was thinking more along the lines of Russian or Chinese “justice.” But really, I wouldn’t want that to be the norm in America.

  • funksands : Boston is going to run out of booze tonight.

  • funksands : I fear for our nation. A few liberal posters on twitter saying how if we weren’t bombing Chechnya, perhaps these men wouldn’t have been so radicalized (facepalm)

  • AdLib : Funk – Serving Boston lagers and Cape Cods at the Vox bah…

  • AdLib : Night Sabreen!

  • AdLib : Hey Funk!

  • funksands : Hi KT, just here having a glass of wine from my bah.

  • AdLib : KT – I don’t know that they think that far, look at these murderers. They didn’t even think that they would get caught, they thought they were so clever and no one would ever know it was them who set the bombs down. Criminals are overconfident, none of them go into a big crime thinking they will get caught.

  • KillgoreTrout : Have a great weekend Sabreen. Hey, is funk in da house?

  • glenn : Good night Sabreen. Sleep well.

  • funksands : Night Sabreen. Any week will better than this one.

  • Sabreen60 : Hey Funk, I didn’t know you were here. I’m going to say farewell. Hope we all have a peaceful week.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Bourne- it’s unanimous.

  • AdLib : glenn – Yes, we didn’t have a Guantanamo back when McVeigh struck. And he was white and Christian, the Repubs wouldn’t have lobbied to have him lose his Constitutional rights to stand trial. Only minorities should lose them.

  • KillgoreTrout : Good point. I do sometimes think that our incredibly slow judicious process gives a bit of hope to these monsters that want to slaughter Americans. They know, that even if they are caught, they can live for years in an American prison.

  • AdLib : Bourne – I second everyone else’s advice, notify law enforcement immediately about this scum and I might suggest having his number blocked by your phone company.

  • glenn : Ad–Then why wasn’t Timothy McVeigh called an enemy combatant? Or was that before 9-11? Sorry–sometimes all these horrible events just run together in my mind.

  • funksands : Bourne, that is exactly what the FBI is for. Don’t screw around with a person like this.

  • Sabreen60 : Bourne, I would report this guy, ASAP.

  • AdLib : KT and glenn – The President COULD declare anyone an enemy combatant, as he did with the American Al Qaeda leader he okayed being killed by a drone. That’s what the Repubs want but it would be outrageous to do that to an American citizen who committed a crime on American soil. And, it’s acting like a terrified coward. Really, we’re afraid to try a 19 year old for mass murder? Then how can we try the Aurora mass killer?

  • KillgoreTrout : Bourne, the sooner you call, the better. Sounds like a real nut case.

  • glenn : Bourne–please do be careful. Hopefully, the FBI will be able to help you.

  • glenn : Ad–LOL–let’s just romney just doesn’t resurface at all.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Bourne….what did you do in response to stuff…who knows about it….just in case this person is not just a talker.

  • SallyT : It was an FBI case and that means it will be a Federal Trial.

  • KillgoreTrout : Good point glenn. But Romney is an idiot.

  • BourneID : I do some writing and I think I may be targed by a hate grou for my support of the president. I received a personal letter from with a San Diego post mark with the return address on the sticker that said ONCE A MARINE ALWAYS A MARINE. The letter was typed below the my rmarks on Hannity. it was not very nice with typical liberal crap. There was a link that the writer offered suggesting I learn something. i opened toan Obama hate group and what I saw was terrifying and disgusting. Thie person found my address and sent it to me with my full name including my midle initial. I still have it/ I googled his name and phone number and there were several others who have received letters. Last month, I started receiving phone calls from a San Diego area code. I have an unlisted number. Calls that come flash up on my TV screen. The name was different. I answered but no one responded. I googled again and 3 others received calls as well. One reference to him was a piece that talked about “Scum Jews.” He has called 2 or 3 times a week; I no onger answer and there is no message. Monday I’m going to call the FBI – Don’t like this.

  • AdLib : glenn – Whoa, you could have predicted something, might not Romney resurface to say, “I told you Russia was our #1 enemy!” Not.

  • glenn : Ad–there was a segment on rachel maddow about that too. The complication with that is Dzhokhar is an American citizen.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Bourne….such a day…not much at HP….this discussion is better…more insight….hate as the common denominator…ye p.

  • Sabreen60 : glenn, it was Romney – our #1 geopolitical enemy. So I guess he’ll say “I told you so”, now.

  • KillgoreTrout : The military court plea is understandable if the perp was caught on some foreign battle field. But this is not the case with these two creeps. They were civilians, attacking civilians. Fortunately there is only one left, and he may not make it long enough to be tried. From all reports, he’s pretty seriously injured.

  • AdLib : KT – I get it but if Russians come to live in America, they can’t have it both ways. Either America is an evil dishonest place they shouldn’t live in or it’s not. I do understand the distrust though, living in Russia would do that to anyone but they have to work through it.

  • Sabreen60 : Thanks Sally. You know some parents live in denial. They will always say “oh no not my child”.

  • glenn : KT–Among many Americans, mittromney included, there is still a distrust of Russians. Didn’t romney say the soviet union was our number one threat? Or was that some other ignorant republican?

  • KillgoreTrout : glenn, it makes sense. They are both religious extremists.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ok Back again…call from my Muslim friend….I shared Planet insights with him. A fine doctor, a good leader who could be a great one.

  • AdLib : Great, now Chris Hays says the next “battle” that will start right away is Repubs battling Obama to not have Dzhokhar tried in criminal court but sent to Guantanamo as an enemy combatant. They can go to hell. Dems came together to support Bush after 9/11, these weasels can go fuck themselves over another “Fight Obama On Everything” over this!

  • glenn : AdLib–I just googled it, and there are several people who have done just that–compared the taliban and christianity.

  • SallyT : Sabreen here is a link on the Dad: «link»

  • KillgoreTrout : That’s a good way to put it Ad.

  • KillgoreTrout : Among many older Russians, there is still a strong lack of trust concerning America. They have been taught for decades that we are the enemy and not to be trusted.

  • Sabreen60 : AdLib, I didn’t read all the comments, but I figured someone had heard it.

  • AdLib : Night Kes, sleep well and have a great weekend!

  • AdLib : KT – If you but a list of demands down on paper and just interchanged “Muslim” and Christian”, both groups would sign onto the same list.

  • Sabreen60 : Nite kes. Have a good weekend/week.

  • AdLib : Sabrenn – Mentioned this below, the father is babbling, paranoid idiot.

  • KillgoreTrout : Sweet dreams Homie!

  • KillgoreTrout : Oh, without a doubt Ad. I have seen people, many times, refer to fundamental Christians as the “American Taliban.” That’s exactly the way I see them. Not all, of course, but surely the majority.

  • AdLib : Sally – Right, can’t leave out the domination of women for both extremists.

  • Sabreen60 : I heard on the news (hope it wasn’t CNN) that the father is in Russia and says he believes his sons were framed.

  • glenn : G’night kes. Sleep well.

  • AdLib : Kes – The aunt is just a loon who didn’t care about her nephews…or what they did for that matter.

  • SallyT : And, control of women, AdLib.

  • kesmarn : I think I might have to call it a day as well, friends. May you all sleep well, and may the citizens of Boston sleep especially well tonight!

  • AdLib : KT – What’s not surprising is that the Islamic Extremists have so much in common with the RW in this country. They’re Truthers, believe governments should legislate religious beliefs, are obsessed with their hatreds and are intolerant of those who believe differently.

  • Sabreen60 : Nite AB. Take care of yourself.

  • glenn : Bourne–You’re right–hate is hate. It’s just easier for the haters to find each other nowadays. On the other hand, you can find people like those here on the Planet, also.

  • KillgoreTrout : Hey Bourne, que pasa?

  • AdLib : Night AB, feel better and get some rest. And drive safely!

  • KillgoreTrout : Yeah I saw that she mentioned “those two buildings, more than a few times.

  • AdLib : Sabreen, remember, the Olympics bombing, very similar to this one, was by a Christian Extremist, Eric Rudolph. Didn’t hear any calls to jail all Christians after that.

  • kesmarn : G’night, Frennie! Don’t let the bed bugs bite.

  • glenn : Sabreen–thanks for the link. I’m going to check it out.

  • BourneID : Glenn, that for the information. Hate is hate and we’ll always find something won’t we.

  • glenn : ‘Night AB. Hope your circle of friends continues to grow. Hope your circle of spider does NOT!

  • kesmarn : Yes, KT and AdLib, and she was mugging and almost laughing during the interview. Very strange demeanor for such a serious situation.

  • KillgoreTrout : Sleep tight AB.

  • AdLib : KT – The same aunt hasn’t even seen the brothers for years. She’s a loon. And their mother was a truther as Tamerlan was.

  • KillgoreTrout : kes, she sounded like her loyalties were to Chechnya, and not America.

  • AlphaBitch : OK peeps. Time for bed. It’s been a terribly long 2 days fro me, too. Love to all, and a shout out to the Feds.

  • Sabreen60 : glenn his web site is TimeWise.org. There is a list of books, CDs etc.

  • AlphaBitch : Look at all those “immigrants” in Watertown – you think those are white Christian faces???? Some, not many.

  • AdLib : Bourne – Actually, only about 30% of Americans are admitted Repubs and that’s about the percentage of news viewers who watch Fox. So, the racists are only preaching to their fellow racists. I don’t think anything changes other than more open racism from the same racists. I don’t predict an anti-Islam sentiment being generally prevailing in this case.

  • glenn : Sabreen–where do you find his writings?

  • kesmarn : KT, I saw part of that interview with the aunt. She struck me as a very odd person.

  • glenn : Bourne–I think it’s always been this way–that we’ve had these fringe groups. I remember as a teenager driving from NJ to FL and seeing John Birch Society signs for the first time and asking my mother who they were. She didn’t know who they were either. The difference now is that these fringe groups all have an “equal” say on the internet. And they certainly get more than their share of time on foxso-callednews .

  • Sabreen60 : Yep kes. That’s the truth.

  • KillgoreTrout : I saw an aunt of these two monsters earlier today, asking repeatedly for evidence that her nephews were guilty of the bombings. She was adamant that there had to be some sort of evidence against her nephews. She said the videos did not show them actually placing backpacks on the ground. Well, after last night and today, I’d say there is no doubt to their innocence or guilt. Why get into a fire fight with police if you are innocent?

  • kesmarn : Frennie, brown recluse bites are serious business, as you know. You’re internist is a funny guy…as long as it’s not happening to him! :lol:

  • AlphaBitch : He dead by now AdLib.

  • AlphaBitch : You know guys, something Blov and I did on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 when everyone was all atwitter about Muslims is actually GO to a mosque in a show of solidarity. Murph, you might go with your doctor friend. Tell him you want to stand shoulder to shoulder in support of their right to worship as they please.

  • AdLib : AB – I’ll bet the spider is more worried about the swelling a Texan’s blood is doing to his mouth.

  • Sabreen60 : Tim Wise, white guy, is a writer and educator who condemns racism and speaks about white privilege.

  • BourneID : Hi Murph, how could there not be backlash against Muslims when half of the population listens to Fox hate every day. We are dealing with a level of ignorance that we may never have witnessed before. On the hand, maybe it’s always been this way and our 24/7 news cycles have made it real. Tonight i listened to the press conference of the law enforcement agencies involved in this remarkable achievvement. It took less than 10 minutes after the suspect was in the ambulance for the stupdity of the press came on ful force. One kept shouting as the Commander of the MA Stte Police was speaking and when he finally acknowledged her she asked if they had read the guy his Mirandarights. unbelievable. Th real danger is that the real anti-Islam do not differentiate people by anything but skin color. Fetures may be similiar among various mediterranean people who are Christian or non-Muslin. I have Lebanese friends who are Catholic and terrifid their son may be injured or killed because someone mght think him Muslim.

  • AdLib : Hey Sabreen! Many terrorist attacks by the Dominionist/RW Christians in America, assassinations of doctors, bombing of and setting fire to clinics, etc. And no, all Christians aren’t blamed by these same people who blame all Muslims for the acts of individual Muslims.

  • kesmarn : Sabreen, this sentence stood out: “White privilege is knowing that if the bomber turns out to be white, he or she will be viewed as an exception to an otherwise non-white rule, an aberration, an anomaly…”

  • AlphaBitch : Premature entry again…..When I asked “brown recluse?” with a look of terror (OK, to me spiders are the most formidable terrorists), he got an equally freaked out look and said “I dont’ know!” to mock me. Then he said “We’ll see if it turns black and all the skin dies in a week then we’ll know.” Then he laughed and drew a circle around it. I’m watching it, and it almost got to the circle. I see him again Wed. Will know then….

  • glenn : Hi Sabreen–who is Tim Wise?

  • SallyT : I didn’t say he was sane, just where he said the family was from.

  • Sabreen60 : Hey Kes, KT et al. The thing about bringing religion into the equation, is that it’s never done to white Christian terrorists. I don’t know how you feel about Tim Wise, but IMO he tells the hard truth. The side of the truth no one wants to talk about. We all know about the problems in many black communities, because we read about it all the time and we see young black men in handcuffs on the nighty news regularly. We know about the extreme Muslims for the same reasons. But we seldom hear about the religious beliefs of those domestic terrorists named in this article. «link»

  • AlphaBitch : Kes – my “new” doctor (one of the best internists in town) cracks me up. He said “no cellulitis. I think it’s a reaction to the sting/bite. Could be a spider bite.” When I asked “Brown recluse???

  • AdLib : AB – That’s why I don’t mess with Texans. ;-)

  • glenn : KT–intellectual ly lazy indeed. That’s why sound bites like “death panels” “Obama is a socialist, muslim, communist, etc.” work so well with them. They get that in their minds, and despite all evidence to the contrary, cannot accept that evidence.

  • kesmarn : You make Ann Richards look like a fainting debutante, Frennie, when it comes to tough.

  • AdLib : Sally – Their father sounds insane. Have you heard his ramblings? His crazy claims about who his sons are and claiming this was all a frame up by the FBI?

  • AlphaBitch : Ad – we are tough. I’m Texan – and liberal – remember.

  • SallyT : I don’t know, AdLib. That was from the father.

  • KillgoreTrout : glenn, the majority of working class and poor RWers are just plain ignorant. They are ripe for the RW brainwashing that continues, day in and day out. I also think they are intellectually lazy.

  • AdLib : AB – WHAT??? You and the family are all okay???

  • AlphaBitch : Sigh. Waiting for the third thing…

  • kesmarn : AB! Seriously?? Spider bite and auto accident this week?? Glad you’re OK!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Glenn…another winner…the Westboro connection.

  • AlphaBitch : Thanks Kes. I guess I just heard “last year”. 1985. YIKES.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Glenn….you are so very welcome.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…my friend Muhammad acknowledges his community must do better and he is a newly named leader. I told him I was going to ask a think tank tonight for its thoughts. I will boil them down and send them to him.

  • AdLib : Sally – I think we’ll find this was connected to Islamic Extremism, I don’t think being Chechnyan is key to this (the uncle confirmed that they were Chechnyan).

  • AlphaBitch : In the Boston scenario – if you could have played a part, which job would you have?

  • kesmarn : Here’s where I got the 1985 inspection info for West, TX: «link»

  • glenn : KT–I wish rw-ers would understand that blaming all Muslims for the actions of a few reactionaries is the same as blaming all Christians for Westboro Baptist Church.

  • AlphaBitch : So I got bitten by a spider and it is really nasty looking. Then as we were going to buy new snorkels so we could go snorkel in the desert on Wednesday (no, I’m not kidding), we had a pretty good wreck. We got sandwiched. All are OK, and that’s all that counts. I felt bad for the young guy who rear ended us – he was only 22 and so shook up. Bismullah al rahman ir rahim.

  • KillgoreTrout : Hey Sabreen.

  • AdLib : glenn – Yes, Cruz believes in the free market and not government? Let’s see him get the millions to rebuild West from the private sector.

  • kesmarn : Hey, Sabreen! one for the history books…

  • KillgoreTrout : I do believe that there are some mosques and Muslim learning centers that do promote Jihad, here in the states. But I would never blame all Muslims. Never.

  • glenn : Murph–Glad I could give you something to hold on to. You have done so much to inform me.

  • kesmarn : I’ll have to do a little more research, Frennie, and — yes — thank God they were not Afghans!

  • SallyT : Right, Glenn, and they have insurance. They were only fined a few thousand dollars for their fine back a few years ago. They have the money.

  • AdLib : AB – Let’s face it, Tamerlan was a POS. To murder children and other innocent people, abandon his wife and child, good riddance to him.

  • Sabreen60 : Hi everyone. Just wanted to check in. Helluva week, y’all.

  • AlphaBitch : Kes – I thought I heard it was cited/written up like a year or so ago. Haven’t followed it – too into the Boston thing. I held my breath that the perps were NOT Afghan. I have enough to contend with as it is…..

  • kesmarn : I read that the last safety inspection on that fertilizer plant was in 1985.

  • AdLib : Whoops, I meant Sally! Elvis Jesus!

  • AlphaBitch : Moi? I don’t think that was me…

  • SallyT : Just read this: “The Boston bombing suspects have nothing to do with Chechnya,” Karimov told Interfax on Friday. “Preliminary information received from corresponding agencies suggests that the Tsarnaev family moved from Chechnya to another region of Russia many years ago. Then the family lived in Kazakhstan for a long time and then emigrated to the United States, where all members got residence permits,” Karimov said. “The persons in question did not live in Chechnya as adults. If they have become ‘bad guys’ save your questions for those who reared them,” he said. «link»

  • AdLib : AB – Elvis Jesus? I think you’re onto something there!

  • glenn : AdLib–Cruz should be asking for money from the fertlizer company. After all, they “built” that explosion all by themselves! However, I do feel for the people in the town who are caught in the middle, so to speak.

  • AlphaBitch : Thanks, Sally. They should – but I love sending faxes. Costs them $$ for paper and time for someone to pick the damn thing up. Emails get deleted quickly.

  • AdLib : Murph – Your point is right on target. It is a vital part of the solution to anti-Islamic bigotry for American Muslims to stand against the extremists but their discomfort in publicly doing so plays into the hands of the bigots.

  • SallyT : AB, there are several doing that on FB right now.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Glenn- good comparison. I will hold on to it.

  • AlphaBitch : We need everyone to call Cruz – better yet – fax his office and call him out on his hypocrisy.

  • glenn : Murph–agree with your comment as to what Muslims need to say, but it’s no different from what many Americans have been saying about the insane republicans/tpar tiers who come out with their stupid statements, and no one in the r/tp condemns them. In fact, they support them!

  • SallyT : That corporation has insurance. They need to pay for it.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Kes….in Mo. it has been more like a quick statement of condemnation for the behavior…and then hide. Not effective. Ohio sounds better.

  • AlphaBitch : I have no earthly idea, KT. Their mom was arrested for shoplifting recently – anyone hear that? And Tamerlan had NO job and a wife (Christian) AND a 3 year old daughter. What arsehole would leave his new baby for half a year? ESPECIALLY to go “train”? Shit for brains.

  • kesmarn : Murph, I have to say the Muslim community here in Ohio has done an amazing job of reaching out to the community and making it clear that they condemn this sort of violence. They are wonderful folks.

  • AdLib : glenn, yes, that’s for the town of West. I’m kind of torn, I feel for the poor people in West who will have a hard time picking up the pieces from this corporate destruction of their homes and town but I resent Cruz asking for money after refusing any for Hurricane Sandy victims.

  • KillgoreTrout : True AB, do you think they had different mothers/fathers? They don’t really look like blood brothers.

  • SallyT : AdLib, I am sure they would call him an impostor. Unless, he had an Elvis outfit!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : ALL…I brought up the questions of an Islamic backlash and mentioned that one of my doctors, who is also a friend, and is a leader in a local Mosque. He wanted my thoughts. Here is what I said and what he said: “The Islamic Community in the U.S. needs to figure out how to say more than “we did not do it.” They need to say who did and to condemn them- not just the individual actions but the “particular religious philosophy that is a subset of Islam” which we call jihadist or militant that motivates a culture of terrorism. That would help a lot. It’s what eventually happened in Ireland when the IRA found itself being roundly condemned by those on both sides of the Troubles. By the way, I have discussed this with my doctor, a specialist I see for a very serious condition. His first name is Muhammad and his last name is Turkish. He tells me “Your point is very well taken, but it is no easy thing to do given the fullness of our roots.”

  • glenn : Hey-speaking of Texans–Cruz and another Texas legislator who voted against the Hurricane Sandy relief bill are now asking for federal help for the fertilizer plant explosion. Don’t you “love” them Texans?

  • AdLib : AB – That has to be nerve racking, especially considering the frequency of bombings and attacks in AFG!

  • kesmarn : Counting is apparently a “higher order thinking” skill, AdLib and that’s against the law in Texas — except in the AB household.

  • AdLib : Sally – Heh, imagine that Jesus came back as the RWs all insist and they refuse him entry to the US because he’s Middle Eastern and dark skinned!

  • AlphaBitch : KT: One was born in Russia, the other in Kyrgyzstan.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Thanks AB….trying to plant early to get deep roots for summer heat, a good idea, but it is tough.

  • AlphaBitch : Having worked with all those children from AFG, I can tell you it’s damn frightening to hear about a bomb and not know everyone’s whereabouts/stat us . It’s the ONLY thing I ever used FB for – they knew to post an “I’m OK” as soon as anything happened, and SOMEONE would see it. I always got a call right away from FB crowd.

  • AdLib : Kes – Can Perry count to three using Secession and FEMA as the two he can remember?

  • SallyT : AdLib, they would recognize Jesus as a terrorist. He had dark skin.

  • KillgoreTrout : Actually one of the brothers is somewhat dark skinned, and the other is definitely more white. I’m guessing different fathers. or different mothers.

  • kesmarn : Those are amazing stats, AdLib. The terrorism vs. gun mortality numbers.

  • AlphaBitch : Good job, Murph. I envy your cold. We are cool – 50s – and everyone is so happy.

  • KillgoreTrout : It is a very good thing that terrorism happens so infrequently here as opposed to the Middle East. They live with terror attacks quite frequently. It’s part of their lives. For us in the USA, we are fortunate that it doesn’t happen more than it does.

  • kesmarn : Right. And the town of West is going to need all the help it can get — regardless of the source. I think that finally dawned on his little cranium.

  • AdLib : Wonder if John King is reporting the suspects still as “dark skinned”?

  • AlphaBitch : Love that Chris Hayes. He’s my “American son” (all the rest Afghan.

  • SallyT : People in other parts of the world live with what happen here everyday and even worst.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : I am back. All tucked in.

  • AdLib : AB – Chris Hays crunched the numbers, in the last 40 years, 3,500 deaths from terrorism, 900,000 deaths from guns. Now which should we be more panicked about?

  • AlphaBitch : Kes – Even dumbass Perry can read the way the winds is a blowin’. Without Eagleford Shale (fracking) – he’d really be up shit creek.

  • AlphaBitch : But I would never, ever, ever be brave (is that the right word?) enough to go look under the freakin’ tarp if I saw blood on my boat’s tarp. Crap no. That’s what 911 is for.

  • kesmarn : Funny how Perry doesn’t mention secession any more these days, isn’t it? In fact he seems downright fond of Big Gummint at the moment.

  • AdLib : AB – Kind of cold but that sign does ironically fit the situation.

  • AlphaBitch : Shit, Ad. We have more people killed in car wrecks and gun fights than terrorism. Whose afraid of the little terrorist??? Yep, as long as the police have my back! Go Feds, state and local guys. I’m proud of all youse.

  • KillgoreTrout : People in such a diverse community learn a lot about other countries, that you can’t necessarily learn in schools. It’s really a wonder.

  • AlphaBitch : Good one, Sally! And your funnies are great. I just never comment – too worn out by VOX

  • AdLib : We have to live with the reality of global terrorism. If we can have the confidence that our law enforcement folks will do a great job to protect us and catch the terrorists, we can move forward confidently whatevermay come.

  • SallyT : AB, I posted on FB about Perry and the explosion that: “Once the Shit hits the fan, you can succeed, Perry!

  • AlphaBitch : My folks came in 1635, but to Virginia.

  • KillgoreTrout : Boston and NY are two of the oldest cities in America. They have always been the dropping off point for immigrants. Italian, German, Irish, Poles…etc.

  • AlphaBitch : Ha, AD! Had to go back and see WHICH sign. “Live chickens – killed fresh daily”. I could stop with the first half.

  • SallyT : And Bourne!

  • SallyT : I know, AdLib, I know. But, it is just my insecurity. I have my loyal ones that always let me know they are there, too. Like Glenn!

  • AlphaBitch : KT: Nope. We were close enough to spit, but with the fire, the panic attack I had on the “trolley” (which in my dictionary means “on top of the street”, NOT “under the water”), AND the earthquake on the same day – we didn’t do it.

  • AdLib : Hey Bourne! Welcome!

  • AdLib : AB – Couldn’t we hang that sign on the Terrorists? Just joking, I’m not a death penalty supporter but I can joke about it.

  • SallyT : Thank you Glenn! I think it is interesting to see the other sides thinking, even if it is stupid, but I like to know just how confused they are on things!

  • kesmarn : Sleep deprived as usual here, Frennie!

  • BourneID : I hte when I do that – I press return and it sends…why?

  • BourneID : Did ya read him his Mirnd rights/

  • AlphaBitch : Kes – look at that brain fire up! Yep, Secret – you-know-what – Society.

  • KillgoreTrout : AB, were you in Harvard Square?

  • BourneID : Hi all, a little late. I had to watch the briefings by the law enforcement people. Glad I did because I might have missed the reporter shouting out to the Chief of ht MA state police,

  • AdLib : Sally – As I always explain, most people at The Planet just read, they don’t post. And especially on the Sunday Funnies, folks just read and enjoy and not everyone has a comment to add. You’ve got a loyal and growing readership!

  • AlphaBitch : Oops. Premature entry. Sorry! Meant to say – we were near Cambridge St. – was where the laundry fire broke out at the Sudso Laundrymat and where for a brief moment – we were the heroes for calling the fire dept. What I loved was the INCREDIBLE diversity of the neighborhood -so many immigrants from everywhere. “Live chickens – killed fresh daily” – my fave sign.

  • glenn : Sally–your cartoons are the highlight of my Sundays. It is so interesting to see how you present both sides–even though I growl, bitch, and pound my fist on my computer table–it’s always helpful to see the other side’s “thinking.” Please know that there are many of us who look forward to and appreciate your hard work.

  • kesmarn : Oooohh…never mind, Frennie! Yes! Just recalled — always Secret You Know What!!

  • AdLib : Kes – Beck wanted Obama impeached over the terrorists being from Saudi Arabia. Whoops…at least most other people would say that, Beck just erases his memory and continues on with his BS.

  • SallyT : AB, I said that same thing on here earlier. That it is the hatred in some people.

  • kesmarn : Frennie…I know I should know “SMS” — but hey, it’s been a long week here! :-)

  • AlphaBitch : KT – the Blov and I were in Cambridge in October, staying 3 blocks from Cambridge St.

  • AdLib : AB – Love it! “If I was a drone and you were a Taliban…”

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, one thing I love about Boston is the general intelligence of the people there. Even those who only graduated from high school. It gives credit to a diverse community.

  • SallyT : Murph, I am so happy to hear that. Sometimes since no one says anything, I fear I am not getting anyone looksing. It takes hours to do it. AdLib will tell you that I worked from 11am to nearly 7pm last Saturday. And then I forgot to do my tags and other stuff that AdLib had to touch up for me!

  • kesmarn : The RW can certainly spin anything toward the dark side: anti-immigrant, anti-Miranda rights, and — of course — Glennda Beck wants to impeach the President. As usual.

  • AlphaBitch : Frennie – are you still SMS with me????

  • AlphaBitch : Islam is not to fault. Hatred is.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Stepping out for a few minutes I need to make sure my plants are covered….frost on the way.

  • AdLib : I wouldn’t think that the terrorist types out there are feeling to confident right now about participating in an attack in the future.

  • AlphaBitch : Ad: Is that that El Condor Pasa song? I’d rather be a drone….than a brainless clone….like most Republicans….

  • glenn : Pete Williams on now discussing miranda warnings and the public safety exception. Also discussing whether the suspect will be tried in a military court or civilian one. Complicated by the fact that the suspect is an American citizen.

  • KillgoreTrout : Hey AB. Don’t mess with Beantown! :)

  • AlphaBitch : That should make them STFU about immigration and “preventing” such acts.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally….you need to realize that your work is coming to be a benchmark for the week….so its fans, and the number is growing….

  • AdLib : KT – I would bet you’re right, that there was at a minimum, guidance from Islamic Extremists and if that comes out…I wouldn’t want to be them, I’d rather be a drone.

  • AlphaBitch : You know looking at all the cheering faces, all I saw were immigrants!

  • KillgoreTrout : kes, crazy isn’t it? Murph, that has to be frustrating.

  • AlphaBitch : Hey Ad. Funny meeting you here….

  • AlphaBitch : Listening to Ry Cooder and the Buena Vista Social Club to celebrate….

  • AdLib : Hey AB!

  • AlphaBitch : FRENNIE!!!!!

  • AlphaBitch : Me too Murph. My fave drink is an Old Speckled Hen – an English ale,very creamy.

  • glenn : AB–my trip was great, but too short! How was yours?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : AB….wonderful to “see” you….Ad Lib is serving Boston Lager or a strange Cranberry and Vodka concoction called a Cape Cod. I am a Lager guy.

  • AlphaBitch : Yum! Hey Glenn – how was your trip? Sorry I’m behind.

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, most assuradly they had help. Like I said before, the guns they had are very difficult to legally obtain in Mass. Also the explosives. I do realize though that ammonium nitrate is a commom fertalizer.

  • kesmarn : Frennie! Beans and bacon…mmmmm!

  • AdLib : KT – Agreed, I don’t think most Bostonians would turn on those of them who are Muslim because of this. Anyone who saw the angry uncle’s statements will keep those in mind, I think.

  • glenn : HeyAB–and you can get a Cape Cod too! Ad is making them!

  • SallyT : Oh, I see Murph. Yes there were cartoons out within the hour of the bombing. Most of those were in support of Boston and the First Res ponders.

  • AlphaBitch : What’s shakin’ bacon? Can I get some Boston Beans?

  • kesmarn : KT, it was 80 here yesterday and in the low 40s today!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : KT…as you know, I farm, and tonight I have to cover my first transplants because we are getting a frost….

  • AdLib : Sally, unfortunately, that’s the kind of casual racism that’s out there.

  • glenn : Kes–after enjoying a week of beautiful spring weather–even had to turn on my a/c–it is not cold again and I had to turn off the a/c and turn on the heater. Ahhh-spring! After almost thirty years of living in FL and other warm climates like Guatemala and Saudi Arabia, I had forgotten what spring is like!

  • kesmarn : You’re very welcome, AdLib. I think one of the big questions will be: if they had weaponry, grenades, etc. who supplied them?

  • KillgoreTrout : Kes, I walked to the store earlier. The cold wind blew right through my woolen cap. I was thinking, damn, this is still going on?

  • AdLib : Hey Kes! Thanks for doing a great job on keeping our Twitter on the cutting edge of the day’s news!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally…I think they were wondering if the topic would be too soon, too hot, too hard….

  • AdLib : KT – My bet is that the older brother was convinced on his trip to Russia to follow Islamic extremists and convinced his brother when he returned. The real question is, did they have handlers who helped them?”

  • SallyT : Murph, most certainly. But when they asked you if I would be dealing with the bombing, how did they mean that?

  • KillgoreTrout : The Islamic community in Boston is very much worried because of these bombings. I think the majority of Bostonians will not blame them. There may be a few ignorant ass holes that do, but they will certainly be a small minority.

  • kesmarn : Doing pretty well here is cold and windy Ohio, glenn. Yourself?

  • AdLib : Sally – I bet the RW are nuts enough to want us to bomb Chechnya!

  • glenn : Hi Kes–how are you?

  • AdLib : Murph – I think there will be more anti-Islamic hatred swelling in the usual suspects, the racists on the RW but in this case, I don’t think it will be seen broadly because there seems to be a recognition that it was just two young men and we took them down.

  • SallyT : KT, I heard a member of the family or a family friend say that they/or the older brother were upset that others were getting ahead in this country and they were getting anywhere or any breaks. Don’t know if that is it but that was said.

  • glenn : Murph–I think you can count on backlash–it’s the rw way. Chris Hayes had a good segment on the other night as to the differences in the way we treat American citizens such as Timothy McVeigh, when they commit terrorism, and the way we treat Muslims when they do. We didn’t round up and denigrate all young, white males when McVeigh did his dastardly deed, but we have no problem denigrating all Muslims.

  • KillgoreTrout : Hey kes! Indeed. They stuck together and caught these two monsters.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally- I have gotten used to picking out my top five. Doing a screen capture on them, one by one, and then printing up on little packets that I give out to friends or in a file I sent to my list serv (with an invitation that they look at your entire Sunday funnies. I got an e mail today from one of your fans wondering if you would be dealing with the bombing. I told her that knowing how you tackle all comers, I was sure you would.

  • kesmarn : Good Friday evening, friends! And this is a good one for the people of Boston. They must be so relieved.

  • AdLib : glenn – Exactly! “Obama came up with a cure for cancer to bankrupt Social Security!”

  • SallyT : AdLib, are they nuts enough to think we should go after Russia????

  • KillgoreTrout : I would very much like to know the motive for these attacks. I know Islamist extremist hate America. but there has to be more to it than that.

  • AdLib : Sally – So true, the Repubs will probably diss Obama for not even going into war against another unrelated country before catching the terrorists.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib- I got a call earlier today from one of my physicians (a specialist for a condition I have- we are personally close- joined by powerful political interests)…his first name is Muhammad and his last is Turkish. He is a leader of his Mosque and wanted to ask me if I had any thoughts about possible/likely? anti Islamic backlash. I had some thoughts. I wonder if others do.

  • glenn : Sally–sounds as though you have your work cut out for you this week!

  • AdLib : Sally – There were many potential terrorist attacks in addition to 9/11 while Bush was President. Remember the Shoe Bomber? He only failed because of his own incompetence, not anything Bush did. Of course Repubs twist everything, they don’t have reality on their side.

  • SallyT : Murph, yes lots on the failure of congress to pass a vote on gun control and with the Boston bombing. I will be working tonight and Saturday getting them in order.

  • AdLib : Graham is a fool and his fearful crying over shipping Dzhokhar to Guantanamo only makes him look like a coward.

  • glenn : AdLib–a cure for cancer? Just think of all those doctors and chemotherapists that would be out of work, and it would all be President Obama’s fault!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally….looking forward to your weekend selections…giv en this week….I suspect you will be busy right on through to posting time….

  • AdLib : Sally and glenn – I knew they had no principles and would jump right into it. If Obama discovered a cure for cancer, the Repubs would attack him.

  • glenn : KT–most of them have no memory before Jan. 20, 2009 when President Obama was inaugurated.

  • SallyT : Better to take the time to get those that did the attack than to rush off and bomb a country with innocent people that had nothing to do with it.

  • KillgoreTrout : Sally, most of the RWers have no memory before 2004. Selective memory indeed.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Glenn…actually the brothers came into the U.S. more than 10 years past….but that is a fact and the Goopers hate facts.

  • glenn : “staying true to the unity and diversity that makes us strong”-+-perfe ct!!

  • SallyT : Many saying Bush protected us from terrorist attacks and under Obama there have been two. Yes, they seem to forget that one under Bush call 9-11. I can’t believe how stupid they are.

  • AdLib : Murph – I am a strong believer in the right to privacy but when there is an attack on the nation, I am glad law enforcement can go after data connected to the potential terrorists. We don’t need our emails read and our calls listened to at all times but working backwards from an attack, that only makes sense.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…Lady Lindsay of South Carolina has already dissed O for not shipping the guy off to Guantanamo….al l before he was ven captured. So….

  • glenn : Ad–Hate to tell you, but they already started on HP. It’s President Obama’s fault these muslims were allowed into the U.S.

  • SallyT : All ready have seen it, AdLib.

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, you’d have to blast her off the Cape with dynamite. :)

  • AdLib : Okay, now how long until a Repub disses Obama for the attack and not getting the terrorists sooner…or before they attacked? 5,4,3,2,1…

  • SallyT : Thank goodness for all those Union police for their bravery in doing their duty.

  • KillgoreTrout : I was really surprised when I turned on my computer today, to see that one suspect was dead and they were closing in on the second. Truly remarkable.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…in this case Thank’s Be to the Gods that Big Brother really is watching.

  • AdLib : It’s such a charming and wonderful place, KT. Your mom must love it.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Glenn- thank you…consider this your official comment. Appreciated.

  • AdLib : Pres Obama speaking…

  • glenn : Murph–really enjoyed your “gutless shame” article the other day. Read the comments, and since I had nothing to add, did not say anything. Well done.

  • AdLib : Would any of us have thought that on Monday, after the terrorist attacks, that just four days later the murderers would be killed and in custody? Just amazing!

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, I have a special place in my heart for the Cape and the people living there. My mom lives on the Cape. Her nieghbors are so good to her. She’s 83, and they really look out for her. An amazing little community.

  • glenn : I see the President will be speaking shortly.

  • AdLib : KT – I’ve been to Cape Cod and really enjoyed it!

  • AdLib : Hey, you can hear the bottle cap pop off when a comment is posted!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Glug, glug ad lib! Cheers!

  • KillgoreTrout : There are many cranberry bogs on the cape. They really add to the beauty of the Cape.

  • AdLib : Pop! There you are, Murph!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…Lager it is.

  • AdLib : Cape Cod – Cranberry juice and vodka.

  • glenn : AdLib–once again have to show my ignorance regarding drinks–what’s a Cape Cod?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib- What’s a Cape Cod?

  • AdLib : Murph, we’re serving Boston lagers and Cape Cods! What will you have?

  • KillgoreTrout : Absolutely Murph.

  • SallyT : AdLib and Glenn, they just said on Rachel’s show that he will not be given his rights for about 48 hrs. Legal after 9-11. Will try to get info on other bombs and such first.

  • KillgoreTrout : Oh, very true, but I was referring to these two suspects. They come from an Islamic region in Chechnya. I think the older brother had a great amount of influence on his younger brother.

  • glenn : Hi Murph–yes we are.

  • AdLib : The High Value Detainee Evaluation Group – The name of the top Fed interrogators. They get 48 hours to question him before he can have representation because this qualifies as a public safety issue.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Greetings all….are we joining the folks in the street at Watertown?

  • glenn : Sally–no, not at Elvis impersonators, but supposedly the ricin guy had bumper stickers on his car that says he was a “Christian Democrat”, so it’s okay to round up all Democrats.

  • AdLib : glenn – The Bagger types are already prejudiced, they can use any event to justify it. But as you say, the other 90% of Americans would never fall for that.

  • SallyT : KT, that is what they are saying but there is hatred in people that aren’t Muslim, too. How about the guy that sent the ricin letters. What is his religion? Are we now suppose to throw rocks at all Elivs impersonators now?

  • glenn : Sally–from another report I read, think it was from the HP, he was read his rights in the ambulance.

  • KillgoreTrout : That’s exactly right Ad. Besides, the cops have plenty of evidence

  • AdLib : Hey Sally! I don’t know enough but the take on Dzhokhar is that he was a follower to his big brother so maybe despite his being okay about America otherwise, his brother’s indoctrination got him to rationalize becoming a mass murderer like his brother. Not an excuse, just a possible explanation why he turned on everyone he knew.

  • glenn : AdLib–Once again, those of us who are sane, who use critical thinking, and who don’t reduce life to “sound bites” will not use this attack to justify prejudice against Latinos–I’m not so sure about the low-information rw base.

  • SallyT : Are you sure he wasn’t read his rights?

  • KillgoreTrout : Greetings Sally. To me, I think these guys were brainwashed by Islamic extremists. They were descibed as Muslims, but were pretty secular. I guess they became much more involved in Islam.

  • AdLib : So they haven’t read Dzhokhar his Miranda Rights, I think the plan is that the Fed’s top interrogation team will get all they can from him first, legal under post-9/11 laws, then he’ll be Mirandized.

  • SallyT : I call it hatred in people.

  • AdLib : glenn – Using this attack to justify prejudice against Latinos ain’t gonna work.

  • glenn : Hi Sally–yes, there are indications that the older brother got the younger one involved in his….I have no idea what to call it…delusions, paranoia, conspiracies, ????

  • KillgoreTrout : Glenn, From what I know, they have assimilated well into Boston. Most are very harworking law abiding citizens. But, there is an element of Russian Mafia there. I guess that comes with any group immigrating to the US.

  • SallyT : The 19 yr old has been here since he was 8 yrs old. It isn’t like he came here with evil intent.

  • AdLib : KT – Yep, that was good fortune that the citizen used good sense, found the blood and called in law enforcement. What he did was just plain smart and look what resulted. We’ll be seeing interviews with him soon…and he’ll be getting lots of Thank You cards!

  • glenn : Correction–shou ld not HAVE given them a “path to citizenship.”

  • KillgoreTrout : AD, for sure. Within hours of the bombing, people from all over were cheering for Boston.

  • glenn : AdLib–they will probably say that we should not give them a “path to citizenship.”

  • AdLib : glenn – They were immigrants but Dzhokhar is a naturalized citizen. So what will the prejudiced RW say about that?

  • glenn : KT–interesting about the Russian population in Boston. Have there been incidents or has it been pretty peaceful? Prior to this, I mean.

  • AdLib : KT – I think the whole country will be thinking of the words “pride” and “Boston” as a pair.

  • KillgoreTrout : Glenn, Boston has had a growing Russian community that began in the late 80s.

  • KillgoreTrout : The vigilance of the people also really helped get these two. It was increddible good fortune that this man Dave, found the 2nd suspect in the boat. Great work by law enforcement and the people.

  • AdLib : glenn – Yes, I remain stunned at how quickly all of this transpired. So true, the word “hero” is so cheaply used but in this case, with public safety on the line and mass murders on the loose and cornered, law enforcement folks really acted as heroes for our society.

  • glenn : AdLib–from what I understand, these guys were immigrants, but had been here legally for many years, or at least the younger brother had.

  • glenn : AdLib–Great tweet!

  • KillgoreTrout : AD, for sure. Both cities residents have tremendous pride in their cities. I had a good friend in the Marines from Boston. He was born and raised there and the pride he had for being a Bostonian was quite amazing. He was born and raised there, in Southie. Irish all the way.

  • AdLib : I’ve just ignored the GOP and RW asses who have used this time to promote their asinine gun worship or anti-immigrant rants. Forget them, they don’t matter right now.

  • glenn : AdLib–The speed with which these suspects were caught is amazing. It could have torn the city, and possibly our country, apart with speculation, rumors, and downright hate-mongering. The law enforcement officers involved are indeed heroes. I know we “throw” that word around a lot lately, but these men and women deserve that title.

  • AdLib : KT – Like Bostonians, New Yorkers are tough but ultimately compassionate people. I had no doubt they would come back stronger than before, I can see it’s the same for Bostonians.

  • AdLib : glenn – I Tweeted that a little earlier: “What does this brilliant and courageous work by US and Boston law enforcement prove? Government works! “

  • AdLib : I have to say, if this had taken months or years to find the terrorists, it could have been a real heavy burden on so many. Instead, the swiftness of our law enforcement to catch the bad guys really gives Americans and Bostonians such a needed lift. We will not be beaten, we will not be victims, we will have justice.

  • KillgoreTrout : Oh yeah, big mistake to attack NYC. People there may seem uncaring and cold, but we all saw how tremendously well they came together on 911.

  • glenn : AdLib–I hope that all Americans will realize that we can be confident in our government.

  • AdLib : KT – So true. They dared to attack New Yorkers. They dared to attack Bostonians. Big mistakes.

  • KillgoreTrout : Like Obama said, these guys picked the wrong city to do this in.

  • AdLib : glenn – I think that after this kind of brilliant and quick work by our government, Americans will be more confident against any attacks that may come in the future. We caught Osama. We caught these terrorists. They come after us, we’ll come after them and we’ll have the final say.

  • glenn : Hey KT–good to see you too.

  • glenn : AdLib– “Come back stronger”, indeed.

  • AdLib : glenn – It was remarkable how the people of Boston came together and did what was best for their city and their safety. Well done Bostonians!

  • AdLib : KT – I’m with you on that, I want Dzhokhar alive and talking. If there is a connection to Islamist extremists in Chechnya, we need to know that. And anyone else who may have been corresponding and sympathetic with these twisted brothers.

  • KillgoreTrout : Hey Glenn. Glad to see you.

  • glenn : AdLib–I was amazed that the “lockdown” seemed to be successful, and didn’t seem to be violated.

  • AdLib : Police Chief speaking…

  • KillgoreTrout : I hope the suspect lives. I’m sure he has some valuable info for law enforcement. I am afraid he may have lost too much blood to survive. We don’t yet know the extent of his wounds.

  • AdLib : Hey glenn! It really is affirming! We can’t prevent terrible and mentally ill people from doing terrible things in our free and open society but if we can endure the damage they do and come back stronger, we can’t be defeated.

  • AdLib : They have a lot to be proud of, those Bostonians are showing the nation how to be a strong and compassionate community. Very proud to be fellow Americans with them!

  • KillgoreTrout : Surely nothing will bring thos killed, back to life, but the families of the victims surely have gotten a little comfort from the killing and capture of these monsters.

  • glenn : Hey AdLib and KT–Glad to hear the suspect has been captured alive. Watching Rachel Maddow and seeing the people of Boston celebrating. Good job, law enforcement officers!

  • KillgoreTrout : Bostonians are tough people. They live through severe winter conditions, every year, and I think that makes them a little tougher than those in warmer climes. Even RW Emerson said that in the mid 1800s.

  • AdLib : Hey Killgore! Big cheers indeed! All our law enforcement agencies worked together so effectively. And great respect and sympathy to the families of the officers who lost their lives.

  • KillgoreTrout : Hey Ad, good decision. There is so much going on right now, we might as well communicate in real time. Hooray for BPD, WPD, the FBI and the ATF. Just a remarkable job.

  • AdLib : The joyful people on the streets of Boston is a real salve after the shock and horror just five days ago. Americans and Bostonians are too resilient for such hateful people to ultimately succeed.

  • AdLib : Vox Populi is open now, a bit early. Feel free to jump on in!

  • AdLib : BREAKING: Dzhokhar has been captured alive and is being treated.

  • AdLib : Vox Populi, our live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7 pm PST. Hope to see you then!

Categories: Vox Populi Archives

Written by AdLib

My motto is, "It is better to have blogged and lost hours of your day, than never to have blogged at all."

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