• AdLib : See you then, CL! Take care!

  • choicelady : AdLib, Murph – good night. See you in two weeks! Be well, dear friends.

  • AdLib : Well CL, looks like it’s time to close the Vox Cafe! Hope you can get some rest this weekend! Best of luck with your next week and looking forward to hearing about your HOPEful adventures the following week!

  • choicelady : Sounds GREAT, Murph – go sleep so you can go plant! See you in a couple of weeks! I’m doing a conference next Friday so won’t be here. Sweet dreams, good weeks.

  • choicelady : Murph – I always know I’m near home when I fly over MO – it’s qualitatively different from anywhere else. Trees, contours, hills – lovely. Someday I’m coming back to see Gentry County where my grandfather was from. Farm boy who grew up to be an English professor. And an Ayn Rand enthusiast, but hey – you can’t have everything…

  • MurphTheSurf3 : choice- I do lots of trees. I bought land that is very hilly and have a dozen mini-fields in pockets scattered about. I grow a lot of specialty items and sell to local markets, the AG independent grocers and restaurants.

  • AdLib : Murph – That is pretty scary stuff, considering that they are true believers! Night Murph!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…WoW! Well gotta go for real. Bye y’all

  • choicelady : Murph – do you have trees around your land?

  • AdLib : our

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Choice- interesting observation about the missing belt. I must look into that.

  • AdLib : Murph – Over the years, I’ve perennials added bit by bit, always something that bore fruit. Orange tree, lemon, apple, grapefruit, avocado, pomegranate trees, artichoke and asparagus plants. Daughter loves are “mini farm”, going in the backyard and picking something fresh to eat.

  • choicelady : Murph – MO is being hurt I think by IL, KS, TX and surrounding states that have ripped out the shelter belts. No trees, less rain. I fly over hundreds of miles of treeless land going East, and I think it matters that the CCC work is almost all gone. Trees help produce vapor that makes rain and keeps us cooler. Stupid, wasteful, dangerous practices of the greedy.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib- I have only met one or two and have kept clear of them beyond a hello but the stuff I read and what the police say makes me think they are delusional and they act on the delusion. Those who are somewhat anchored in the real world com for a training weekend or two and then back away.

  • choicelady : Murph – how freaking sad for them. I remember the monitors working Y2K listening toshortwave transmissions and the fear of those who “KNEW” it was the end, Clinton was sending the black helicopters. Pitiful. Why do we who have so much freedom fear so much from our own government? It’s so sad.

  • AdLib : Murph, I know many of these folks need to believe this lunacy for emotional reasons but do you ever sense that there’s a part of them that knows their willingly deceiving themselves? Or are they 100% locked in with no self-awareness?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib- ah! to have a cooperative climate!

  • AdLib : CL – Tomato plants getting taller, peas, broccoli, corn and watermelon in our main garden this year. Have strawberries, blackberries and grapes coming along too!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib- my sense is that there is a contingent among the far righties who are true believers in their zealous ideaolatry. The KNOW that Obama is the anti-christ, the harbinger of doom, the bear of communist international’s red banner and that the military is being readied to take them down. They read World Net Daily, look to ALex Jones for inspiration and spend their weekends drilling. Of course in the real world one battalion of rangers with a little armor and copter backup puts them all down.

  • choicelady : AdLib – glad things are growing well for you!

  • AdLib : CL – I do like fishing though I haven’t been for a long while. Cooking what you catch, good stuff!

  • choicelady : Murph – I think it’s admirable when people take responsibility for killing what they eat. I can’t do it – went pheasant hunting once. Cooked it and ate it. But it seemed so pointless. Oh well – I do not fault those for whom hunting supplements a meager food budget. It’s a responsible action.

  • AdLib : Sleep well Murph and best of luck planting! We’ve planted our small veggie garden and it’s already growing nicely. Love them fresh veggies and fruit!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Choice- you have a good reading on how hunting tends to do.

  • choicelady : AdLib – sizeist I can live with.

  • choicelady : Murph – I will check them out here, thanks. Sleep well!

  • AdLib : CL – Sexist? It’s a sizest thing.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Choice – around here there are ranges where you can practice with different guns – usually attached to gun shops- best way to make a choice.

  • choicelady : Murph – hope it goes well both now and in the hot, hot summer. May you get rain this year! Good luck, sleep well, and plant those suckers and get them growing! Be well.

  • AdLib : So Murph, do the TP gun people genuinely believe they will be fighting a tyrannical government and the US Army in the not to distant future or is it clear they’re just acting like they think it would really happen?

  • choicelady : Murph – LOL!! I hear venison is bad for you, turkey is gamey tasting, and all the rest is, well, sort of unattractive. We will have you over for a lovely domestic turkey dinner, OK?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : well folks this has been fun…I rise early to continue the prep for planting and the planting. We are trying to get everything in early in anticipation of a hot summer – the deeper the roots the better the chances of survival and harvest. Time is the key. But unfortunately that means risking freezes- so I have been covering plants as well….Bottom line, early morning.

  • choicelady : AdLib – I’d call you sexist, but let’s face it – there’s a world of difference between Murph and me. I have fair upper body strength for a woman, but I’m not a weight lifter. Male morphology is just DIFFERENT. I had such a surprise with the MP 5 – it has NO kick worth noticing! I’ve never used a shotgun of any kind, so I’d need some help getting familiar with it.

  • AdLib : Just thought of a big downside to the Repubs drawing out the gun vote…it only leaves more time for another terrible tragedy to occur. For the sake of the innocents, I hope that doesn’t happen but every day, I read a new story of another gun murder.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Choice- my hunting is all with a rifle….or as I refer to it a very long walk in the cold damp with a stick that does me no good….I never get anything.

  • choicelady : Murph – thanks! Seriously – do any self respecting hunters use semis? Hunting GROUND venison seems wussy.

  • AdLib : Murph – Was thinking of CL on the recoil, I figured it would be no problem for you.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib- recoil, no problem for me…there is a kick but its not huge.

  • AdLib : CL – And I do think that the shooting Taser is a better way to go than the handheld one. Any weapon you hold can be taken and used against you if you’re within their reach.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Choice- probably. Here is the site: «link»