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nehalem
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nehalem

I’m going to fly three times in eight days in a private jet… because I can.

What’s new? Net neutrality. Nothing new about it. In this case – fly commercial – like everyone else. No additional carbon footprint erasing needs to be paid for – somewhere else. No additional costs need to be incurred. No pollution to the planet you are choosing to generate needs to be excused away – because you are a “good” person or Elton John used to know your mother…

AdLib
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I think you mean carbon neutral? Not quite clear on your point but still, have a nice trip.

AdLib
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For your morning’s entertainment:

kesmarn
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I have to watch this again later. Priceless. How can it be that FOX produces this and that? Regardless, I’m glad this little snippet exists! Thank you!

AdLib
Admin

It’s cool, they’ve been creating these shorts just as fun and social commentary….and promotion. It works!

TOCB
Member

Here is one more reason why the Electoral College should be abolished. A member of the Electoral College is now not obligated to vote the way the majority of the people in his or her state voted. In 2016 70,000 votes supposedly decided the outcome of the presidential election with over 120,000,000 people voting, in a different outcome. If this ruling stands, ONE SINGLE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE can determine who wins the presidency, REGARDLESS of how the people voted, i.e., the popular vote, OR even how the electoral votes were tallied in the election.

How is that representative democracy working out for ya, America? Ben Franklin said the Constitutional Convention gave us a republic, IF we could keep it. There is a very strong argument that we HAVE NOT KEPT IT.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/faithless-elector-a-court-ruling-just-changed-how-we-pick-our-president/ar-AAG8tdZ?ocid=spartanntp

Kalima
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TOCB
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Many of trump’s supporters actually believe he is sent by God. When I heard the news accounts of trump’s “I am the chosen one” comment, I thought he seriously intended it to be a religious reference. After seeing the video of his comment, I don’t think he intended it to be a religious reference. However, his “Second Coming” comment is a lot more troubling.

Kalima
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When I saw the video, all I could think of was the urgency of the 25th amendment.

TOCB
Member

The problem with the 25th Amendment is that it assumes that the vice president and members of the cabinet are not as crazy as the president. In this administration, that appears to be an incorrect assumption.

Kalima
Admin

Yes you are right. Although nowhere near as crazy as trump, they are just as corrupt.

I just think about the damage already caused, and what he can do in the next 15 months that are left.

Kalima
Admin

That is what was intended by the bigots, xenophobes and racist who lied to the British people about the reasons to leave the EU. It was always about hate of “the other”.

In Smerica it’s trump’s hate speech against non/whites that has seen a 200% increase in hate crimes since 2017.

Xenophobic bullying souring lives of East European pupils in UK

Study finds children in England and Scotland experiencing rising racism and prejudice in public after Brexit vote

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/aug/22/xenophobic-bullying-souring-lives-of-east-european-pupils-in-uk

Kalima
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Apart from being an anti-Semitic trope, who is he to call anyone else disloyal when he believes Putin over his own Intel agencies, wants Russia back in the G8 when they are still interfering in U.S. politics and bad players in other parts of the world. Saying the Russians can have Afghanistan back after a ISIS suicide bomber had just killed over 60 innocent people at a wedding party. This crazy person has no idea what loyalty means. His lack of knowledge about everything at home and abroad should be enough for the 25th amendment to be used to stop him before further damage he is causing and will cause until he’s beaten next year. This fool is the single most dangerous National Security threat.

TRUMP HAS SOME PREDICTABLY ANTI-SEMITIC ADVICE FOR AMERICA’S JEWS

The president calls the millions of Jews who didn’t vote for him dumb and “disloyal”—one of the same anti-semitic tropes that caused him to accuse Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib of “hating Jewish people.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/donald-trump-jews-disloyalty

TOCB
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I was actually waiting for trump to say this is the reason Putin selected him as President of The United States, i.e., to remove the sanctions for annexing Crimea, (this is in part what Flynn was charged with) and for him to publicly admit that without Putin, he would not be president.

Kalima
Admin

Putin must have some very powerful things in his bag of tricks to hold over him. Sooner or later we will find out exactly what those are. It won’t Be pretty, but will we be shocked? I doubt it. I stopped being shocked quite some time ago. Now I just feel disgusted every time I see or hear his incoherent babble.

Kalima
Admin

Build a 1000m tall wall around the WH. Europe will pay for it.

Shock in Denmark after Trump, spurned over Greenland, cancels visit

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-greenland/shock-in-denmark-after-trump-spurned-over-greenland-cancels-visit-idUSKCN1VB0TC

AdLib
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Okay, this is pretty funny…

TOCB
Member

Lol. Dumbasses won’t donate because they are dumbasses and will actually be offended for being called dumbasses. The rest of us realize it is a joke.

Kalima
Admin

It is hilarious.

Kalima
Admin

Lol! It’s not for sale you crazy person. What part of “not“ is so difficult to understand when the Danes think that you have lost your mind?

Every day now his mental state is deteriorating at a faster pace than before.

Trump postpones Denmark trip after prime minister declines to sell him Greenland

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-postpones-denmark-trip-after-prime-minister-declines-to-sell-him-greenland/2019/08/20/ef900924-c3a8-11e9-9986-1fb3e4397be4_story.html

AdLib
Admin

Maybe that explains why Trump canceled his plans to got to Atlantic City because the Parker Brothers refused to sell him Boardwalk.

At least there’s video of Trump “negotiating” for Greenland (he is a bad egg):

TOCB
Member

Maybe trump will fall in a wormhole, since House Democrats won’t impeach him.

Kalima
Admin

LOL! Where on earth did you find a video of a young Donna??

AdLib
Admin

A little Russian bird told me. 😉

Kalima
Admin

Aha! That Olga from the Volga is such a card.

kesmarn
Admin

So it really is true.

“If you don’t sell me that country, I won’t talk to you! You poopyhead.”

Thus spake the Leader of the Free World.

AdLib
Admin

Fortunately, there’s video of Trump reacting to the PM in Denmark telling him that they won’t sell Greenland to him:

Kalima
Admin

Our world is no longer free with him in it blackmailing everyone. Must remove his fetid stain on humanity.

AdLib
Admin

Someone’s sitting on Wonder Woman’s lasso…

Trump admits his trade war could lead to recession but says ‘I have to do it’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/20/trump-admits-his-trade-war-could-lead-recession-says-i-have-do-it/

Kalima
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Should the economy collapse on his watch, he’s toast even with the people who became richer from those awful tax cuts and his cultists too due to the clueless handling of both domestic and foreign policies. Many of them anyway.

Yes ISIS is still murdering people in Afghanistan. Hong Kong is on fire and he tweets about imaginary voter fraud in 2016, and buying Greenland. What foreign or domestic policy?

I posted this below.

The Trump vs. Obama economy — in 15 charts

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/20/trump-v-obama-economy-charts/

AdLib
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A recession is on the way and there’s nothing that the short-fingered racist can do to stop it. In fact, I think in his panic, he’ll only make it worse.

Germany is already technically in a recession, there is a slowdown in the rest of Europe and China. It’s happening slowly and Trump’s tariffs are pushing it sooner and deeper.

I’m not happy about this but if it has to happen, 2020 is the ideal time for it to happen. Trump is a freak, he should never have been put in such a position of power. It was a perfect storm, between the racist backlash against Obama, the FBI and Comey sabotaging Hillary throughout the campaign and in the last days, the Russian attack (and collusion with Trump’s campaign) and Hillary’s baggage and high negatives that failed to energize the base.

It’s not happening a second time. And as the incumbent, Trump is responsible for the economy. I don’t know if any president has won re-election when they’re presiding over a recession. That’s all Trump has to promote himself, aside from being a racist.

Obama plainly presided over an amazing recovery from a massive financial crash and as the charts show, achieved higher numbers and consistently steady growth.

Trump has presided over a number of the biggest drops in the stock market and before too long, we will unfortunately see the unemployment numbers creep back up (under this creep) which is something that never happened under Obama.

It sure feels like Trump went too far and broke “the spell” when he unleashed his blatant racism at The Squad and basked in the horrible racism of “Send her back!” at his rally. Then the terrible mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton and the El Paso shooter’s spouting of Trump racism. I think we will look back and see that as the moment Trump lost his re-election. A monster can’t prevail with a majority of voters and at that point, he removed all doubt about how monstrous he is.

The only thing keeping his head barely above water is the level of American confidence in the economy. If that goes, and it sure seems that it will, Trump will go under for good.

And I don’t think anyone, including petrified Repubs, will try to throw him a life preserver then.

AdLib
Admin

Something is definitely wrong when Biden uses the same fear-based, anti-choice argument as Trump to scare voters into supporting him. Proof that neither is confident they can win if voters vote for the candidates they truly want to see as president. And that neither respect the process of voters deciding on the merits of candidates, who they want in the White House.

TRUMP: “Everything’s gonna be down the tubes. So, whether you love me or hate me, you got to vote for me.”

JILL BIDEN: “Your candidate might be better on, I don’t know, health care, than Joe is, but you’ve got to look at who’s going to win this election. And maybe you have to swallow a little bit and say, ‘OK, I personally like so and so better,’ but your bottom line has to be that we have to beat Trump.”

“Vote for me or the worst thing you can imagine is going to happen to you!” – Nostradamus 2020!

Now I am more strongly opposed to Biden. It is unprincipled to use fear to manipulate voters against voting for who they choose themselves. That is not democracy and whether it is Trump or Biden who resort to such manipulation, I will always oppose it.

And for the record, ALL the top tier candidates beat Trump in all of the recent polling so it is BS for Biden to push that “only I” can beat Trump.

I smell desperation and that is not the cologne of a winner.

kesmarn
Admin

Obama’s intuition that Biden could well “destroy his legacy” with a presidential run just might have been right on the money.

Fear and rage are the emotions of hell. Leave them to Trump.

Dems should be focusing on love and hope.

Kalima
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Kalima
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Indian Country gives strong show of support for Elizabeth Warren at candidates’ forum

Tribal leaders praised Warren despite her ancestry controversy at first ever Native American candidates’ forum.

https://thinkprogress.org/indian-country-gives-strong-show-of-support-for-elizabeth-warren-at-candidates-forum-6a23c86f3095/

AdLib
Admin

The Warren Train keeps rolling! This was a smart and principled move by her to apologize and address any lingering feelings about her Native American claim. And do that one better by offering a plan to help their communities.

Trump seemed frustrated that she fended off his early nasty attacks on her as “Pocahontas” and promised his cult members at his last rally that he’d try to hammer her with it again. Sorry Trump, ain’t gonna work a second time, it’s old news.

He also seemed worried, saying that maybe he shouldn’t have attacked her that way so early in the campaign.

He’s really worried.

And he should be. All the top Dems lead him in polling and have for a while. He’s going down!

NoManIsAnIsland
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NoManIsAnIsland

I agree with you totally! I understand why Elizabeth Warren had a
DNA test to look into her Indian ancestry; but from the moment she publicized the results, I knew her announcement would be blown all out of proportion and turned against her by trump and his low life supporters.

I don’t want to minimize the grave nature of her mistep, but to put
it in some perspective, I think it was at least a little less serious than anything trump, the RINP (Rapist in Chief) has ever said or done — starting with having being born.

And Sen. Warren’s announced plans to help Native American communities are obviously of greater interest to them than what
I’m tempted to call a “tempest in a tepee” — but following my rule “Discretion is the better part of velour,” I will refrain from from saying it.

AdLib
Admin

Heh! “Tempest in a teepee”! Like it!

Personally, I also don’t think what happened with Warren’s claim of being part Native American was worthy of the uproar. She never used it to benefit herself in any way.

She was told she was part Native American by her mother when she was a child and she believed her mother. That is not a sin.

It’s not so outlandish to believe what happened to her, I know of other people who had the same thing happen to them. They were told that they were part Native American when they weren’t. I think the reason was that in the past, people saw Native Americans as noble and strong and a parent may have thought that saying this would make a child feel that they had that same nobility and strength in their blood and gain confidence from that.

It’s wrong to fool kids like that but who’s to say that wasn’t passed along through generations? Maybe Warren’s mother was told the same thing when she was a child? I don’t know but things like that get passed down.

In any case, it’s wrong to appropriate the heritage of others, Warren was the one in her family who rightly was held to task for it and she has taken big steps to apologize and make it right. She should continue doing so, by supporting Native American communities but I think it has been and deserves to be neutralized as a campaign issue.

NoManIsAnIsland
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NoManIsAnIsland

Thank you — it just came to me, but you can see why I decided not to say it! ;^D

Warren’s mother was definitely told she had Native American ancestry and I, myself, have heard Warren say she was told it by her mother and members of her mother’s family.

I agree that Warren’s forthright apology and her pledge
to do everything she can to help Native American communities has neutralized the fake “controversy”
as a campaign issue — even though the Republicans will try to make it one after she becomes the Democratic nominee (we hope, but I’m not predicting it.)

TOCB
Member

I am not quite sure what she apologized for, but if Native Americans wanted her to apologize for something, I suppose her apology works. As I appreciate it, she never claimed to be part of any Native American tribe/nation. She only shared that some of her ancestors were Native Americans, as are members of many of our ancestors, including my own. I am not part of a tribal nation, but there were Native Americans in my family. I appreciate them and celebrate them.

NoManIsAnIsland
Member
NoManIsAnIsland

You’re exactly right, TOCB. Elizabeth Warren only spoke of being
told she had some degree of Native American ancestry and never
once claimed to be part of any tribal nation.

MurphTheSurf3
Editor
    POST YABBERZ: WHERE ARE WE AND ARE WE WHERE WE WANT TO BE…………

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We are nearly three months into the post-Yabberz years.

NewYabz on Facebook is up and running. So is a redesigned PlanetPOV.

I am happy that a number of Yabberz Folk are finding NewYabz a good place to stay connected. I have seen some thoughtful posts. What I have seen little of is robust conversation. I find Facebook’s structure challenging in this regard. I generally find navigation at Facebook is designed to keep people bouncing off of each other as a way of expanding the crowd. And that does serve a purpose but it does not seem to promote serious discussion and complex interactions.

PlanetPOV has the structure to support both serious discussion and complex interactions. You click on a story/article and you go to a page that is mostly that post. You can engage in a long conversation running 100 plus comments.

There are some challenges there. 1) It can be hard to figure out who is talking to who. 2) Writing a short post is very easy but writing a long one, an article, requires basic mastery of the WordPress design page. That can seem very daunting. It takes a bit of study. It takes some patience. It takes practice. But once you have done it a few times, it’s easy. AND you can publish really sharp, good looking articles with great images, color, lots of graphic and text choices.

The thing is that only a handful of people are doing it.

I have done a bit of research. It seems that sites like The Planet are disappearing (as Yabberz did). Political blog activity is shrinking. Everywhere. Sites that I have participated in that were robust are trudging along and quite a few are gone.

This search page provides a number of articles addressing the issue:
https://www.google.com/search?q=serious+blogging+is+dying&oq=serious+blogging+is+dying&aqs=chrome..69i57.7488j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I have been searching for a blog that has the attributes that made Yabberz as inviting and as active as it was (at least for a few years). So, far I have found nothing close.
There are plenty of places to post comments but there is very little energy anywhere.
Now maybe I am missing something obvious. Maybe, I just don’t know how to get around at Facebook and I am missing great, serious conversation among a number of community members. If so, enlighten me, please.

Ad Lib, a Founder and Administrator at The Planet, is continuing to work on design elements but functionally The Planet is currently a very versatile platform with a great notification system that utilizes e mail.

Is Medium as an alternative? Well, it is a good design platform. Easy to use and good looking but as to interaction. Hard to find much at all. Very hard.

Maybe I am looking for something that is past its time. Maybe I am missing something of vital importance. But, for me, dialogue, serious and highly interactive discussion, is vital in a republic.

So, I ask you……where are you in this?

TOCB
Member

I agree Murph. The short post on Planetpov are not as interactive as the dialogue was on Yabberz, but there is no reason it cannot be.

I am not a big fan of Facebook for various and sundry reasons, so I go there as little as possible. I find it useful for contacting old friends and family who I had lost contact with, and sometimes I have to go there to find out what my adult children are going, but as far posting every detail of my on any forum, I am not down with that.

Dahlia Swan
Member
Dahlia Swan

What is NewYabz Murph? I only saw Medium and The Planet. I like both – they are not Yabberz (the old one anyway) but a few tweaks here and there can make the sites a little more adaptable. I get notifications from PlanetPOV but not Medium.

Kalima
Admin

If you can’t find what you are looking for, you can always start your own site. That’s what AdLib, KQuark and I did 10 years ago, and we are still here having many interesting conversations with interesting people. That is quite amazing when you consider how many people have tuned out because of “trump fatigue”.

Nothing stays the same, and neither should we. People can make up their own minds on where they are in this and have no obligation to discuss it with anyone else. We don’t do surveys here.

Btw, The Planet is here to stay. The site is not for personal profit and we run without a single sponsor because for the founders it was a work in progress and an experiment to see if we could make it work, and we did.

The reason some sites are slowing down is because many decided it was easier to post 140 characters on Twitter than have long conversations. The same for Facebook where unfortunately too many get their news stories. It’s also why texts and emails have taken over phone calls and
writing letters.

Here is the link for anyone who would like to write a post/article.

Author’s Guidelines.

https://planetpov.com/faq/authors-guidelines/

kesmarn
Admin

When I used to attend family gatherings at my late in-laws’ house, there was one family member who looked at his watch at frequent intervals. Maybe he was just very time-conscious. But the impression given was that he was always reminding himself that he could be somewhere else. Maybe someplace better. So often, interaction is simply what we make it, given the opportunity.

Kalima
Admin

Yes, the grass is always greener on the other side until you get there after giving everything up to find that it’s just the same as you left behind. Can’t blame others or other things for that.

TOCB
Member

I remain a big fan of Bill Maher’s humor, although I don’t always agree with him, as I don’t ALWAYS agree with ANYONE. In Maher’s criticism of the boycott against Israel, as a bullshit purity test, I think Maher uses a purity test to criticize something as a purity test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4FbXRkB2ys

Maher says since the movement was begun by someone who said Palestinians should not accept a Jewish state in Palestine, it is a bullshit movement. The movement is not intended to abolish the Jewish state, but rather to influence the Jewish state to treat Palestinians humanely. No one is saying that over the years in resisting Israeli occupation, that Palestinians have not done some bad things, as Israelis have done some bad things.

It is ok by me for Maher or anyone to disagree with the boycott for any reason(s) they choose. However, to promote the notion that the boycott is a purity test is in and of itself, a purity test.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/boycott-of-bill-mahers-show-suggested-by-rep-rashida-tlaib-after-he-criticizes-bds/ar-AAFYK4f?ocid=spartanntp

AdLib
Admin

Maher has some good shows but when he ever gets around to Muslims, he’s as Islamophobic as Trump. He acts like it’s proof of how “independently minded” he is that he can justify bigotry against Muslims while rail against Trump’s racism.

That episode was unpleasant to watch and his guests should be ashamed of how they folded to him to support his anti-Muslim rants.

He agreed with the idea that you can’t boycott Israel to pressure them to change their oppression of Palestinians and not be an enemy and want to destroy Israel.

Was the boycott against South Africa’s apartheid just as wrong, Bill? Sure seems like it was effective and SA is still here.

But Bill is adamant that all Muslims are the same, they all support terrorism and/or religious intolerance and/or barbarism. Yet the irony is of course that Maher is the one who’s intolerant and demonizing towards Muslims.

How would he want to resolve the situation in Israel? It wouldn’t seem to be much different from Trump.

TOCB
Member

As an atheist, Bill objects to all religions. I understand that, but I also support the right of any person to practice any faith they choose, or none at all. I know people of many different faiths and most of them are fine people. I don’t think it serves any useful purpose to promote that all people of any religion are all good or all bad. Religious organizations have traditionally done some good things as well as some bad things.

AdLib
Admin

Agreed. Though there are many atheists out there and not all are as militant about it as fundamentalists are about their beliefs.

Many atheists, while they don’t believe in the dogma of religions, respect the rights of people to decide to believe what they choose. Live and let live.

There are good and bad people all over the world, some are religious, others are not, it’s not a determining factor though.

That’s where I have a big issue with Maher, he does believe that “non-believers” in “not believing” makes people “worse people”. He believes that Muslims are bad people because they are Muslim and that religion has been exploited by evil people to do evil things.

All these recent mass shooters were Christian, so are all Christians evil? They were white, are all white people evil?

When someone reduces individuals to just being part of a group and one attributes the evil acts of some who are in that group to everyone in that group, that is the definition of prejudice.