• choicelady : Well friends, slightly early this evening, we bid you all a good night. Rest well and enjoy the weekend!

  • choicelady : Hmm – last post did not post. Sweet dreams, KT!

  • choicelady : KT – enjoy the music, and let it sweep you away. Glad your weather is making you happy, too – that’s something joyous to savor. Sweet dreams, my friend!

  • choicelady : KT – your spiritual journey is positively awesome. And what you share with us is thought provoking and calls for real reflection. Because of you, I always have to think about things carefully. You don’t let knee jerk simplistic things go by unconsidered. That is a HUGE gift to all of us and especially to me!

  • KillgoreTrout : CL, I am somewhat bewtched by the music of Baker and Getz. So yeas, I’ll be drifiting away from VP. Have a lovely twilight.

  • choicelady : KT – are you wanting to go on or head for dreamland? I think bito is just signed on but not to VP. Feel free to do what you want!

  • KillgoreTrout : cL, there is nothing more appealing than the seeker, and finder of truth. Sexiness is temporal, truth is eternal. I am glad to have the privilege of seeing your work on nearly a daily basis. Your comments have enriched my existence, as with so many others here.

  • choicelady : bito – are you really there, dear friend?

  • choicelady : KT – you sort of reflect my desire, when I am SO overloaded, to be CLONED! Not quite that many versions though. How would my husband find the real me? Thank you though – I keep trying to make a difference. We don’t get much help. It’s not ‘sexy’ doing change work steadily and steadfastly. But we are part of a larger and more extensive group that is quietly altering the world for the better – though NOT without setbacks. But we shall keep on keeping on!

  • KillgoreTrout : Thank you CL. You do also. Your work is of a very noble nature IMO. I wish your heart could be replicated a million or so times over. Hell, a billion times over.

  • choicelady : KT – well you sure contribute to the caliber of the conversation!

  • choicelady : KT – spirituality has been the goal of almost every reformation I think. the leaders may not see it that way – power, control, institutional dominance yes. But the people on the ground want to find a way to connect with something more. It’s almost always eroded by new rules, new orthodoxy, but the impulse is there. This time, however, I think not only will it work – it will last. We have so many threads from purely internal spiritual seeking to faith-in-action around saving the planet, bringing the human family together, justice on every level – it matters that these threads are also pretty well respected by those NOT IN THEM. That is a huge difference from the purely secular ‘progressives’ that still have a tendency toward a kind of imperialism over their turf. This is NOT all from within mainline religion – but the generation of spirituality from every quarter is very exciting. Paul Hawkens’ book, “Blessed Unrest” deals with it (he has a web site as well) and it has nothing much to do with religion and everything to do with a transcendent ingathering of hope and joy and promise and hard work around justice that welcome everyone without reservation. It’s why I do what I do – it’s awesome.

  • KillgoreTrout : It’s funny, I often wonder if I’ll be able to stay late for VP, but I seem to have no trouble in doing so. I think I owe it to the caliber of thought and conversation.

  • KillgoreTrout : Golden slumbers Murph. Gald you showed up tonight.

  • choicelady : Murph – sleep well!

  • choicelady : Good night Murph – I did ask AdLib to connect us, but I guess he’s not yet done so. We can try again next week when he’s back?

  • KillgoreTrout : CL, i think that orthodox religions are an extended form of mythology. I don’t mean that in a negative way. Religion began as mythology, in every culture on Earth. I think what we need is a new religion, a new mythology that isn’t regarded as fiction. I agree with you all the way. I think genuine spirituality, with no vested interests is what may save mankind. Then again, maybe mankind was doomed from the start. If our treatment of the planet that is our home is any indication, I think we may be doomed.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Time for me to zip away…best to all

  • choicelady : KT – that’s lovely, thank you!

  • choicelady : Good night Sue – beat the computer to the finish line!

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  • KillgoreTrout : Sweet dreams, sleep heads. I would like to post Stan Getz and Chet Baker’s See You Again.

  • choicelady : SAbreen – go to UCC. It’s a DISORGANIZED religion!!! Seriously, I think adherence to a church is entirely up to whether you like the people and the sense of community or not. No need to be part of anything. I work for a faith organization doing public policy and do NOT belong to a church. Not at ALL. And I’m fine with that.

  • choicelady : KT – this is, I think, the “great shaking out” of our time between the churches that focus on spirituality and those that are wedded to rules. HUGE differences even within denominations, but it is the making of a new world of those who DO believe in spirituality and therefore inclusion. Of course the flip side to ‘one true god’ is the very funny reduction by the RW extremists to POLYTHEISM: MY GOD is better than YOUR GOD. And they don’t even see what they’re doing!!! Six thousand plus years of monotheism down the drain in a decade. Wow.

  • Sabreen60 : Nite Kes and I’m right behind you. Hope to see some of you on the Twitter, if not then next week.

  • choicelady : kes – Good night and sweet dreams!

  • KillgoreTrout : Smart lady Sabreen.

  • Sabreen60 : Nighty nite Sue. Take care!

  • KillgoreTrout : Thanks Sue, it’s really good to know.

  • choicelady : KQ – good night, sleep well. Nice to have you here

  • Sabreen60 : Good nite KQ – see you on the Twitter.

  • SueInCa : Well I am going to bow out too my pc is starting to make the warning sounds and is getting ready to race. I am afraid it will blow up on me soon. BFF they were super to me that is what I remember

  • choicelady : kes -yes, I know most hospitals at least in the East were headed by and run by nuns. Will indeed be interesting! The hospitals are very different.