• SallyT : Night Patsy.

  • AdLib : Sounds good, sleep well Sally!

  • AdLib : Night Patsy!

  • SallyT : Good night AdLib. Catch you on the turn around.

  • PatsyT : Thanks and nighty night…

  • AdLib : Hmm…we must’ve run out of beer early tonight! Well, it would seem like a good time to wrap Vox Populi for tonight. Thanks to all for a very spirited and fun discussion. Have a great weekend Patsy and Sally! Hope to see you next week!

  • PatsyT : Nighty Night to the sleepy

  • AdLib : Night Kes!

  • kesmarn : G’night AD and Sabreen. I think I will make that three. It’s nearly 1 a.m. here. Have a great weekend!

  • AdLib : Nite AD! Nite Sabreen!

  • ADONAI : jinx

  • AdLib : Night Chris!

  • Sabreen60 : Good nite Chris, I’m right behind you. Good night folks, take care of yourselves.

  • kesmarn : That would have been newsworthy, AD. What actually happened…well. ..wasn’t.

  • ADONAI : Nite Chris! I’m following him out. Good night folks. Peace be with you.

  • kesmarn : Good night, Chris. Have a great weekend.

  • ADONAI : Oh. She didn’t actually scale the train and rescue it? That would have been bad ass.

  • AdLib : Chris, when I’m in a masochistic mindset, I do pop in on HP and they seem just as hateful as ever but there does seem to be more confusion. They’re not sure what to foul so they just foul everything.

  • ChrisR266 : Well folks, I must call it an evening. My best to you all.

  • kesmarn : The train was indeed moving, AD, when the plucky woman spotted the puppy. After she bravely called 911, the puppy was rescued after the train stopped. And the nation was safe once more.

  • ADONAI : Al, i believe the people answered that question in 2004. It was apparently a yes.

  • AdLib : Though I winced at the comparison, I can see how Mitt could be the GOP’s John Kerry in 2012. Now, Kerry was slimed and was not a flip flopper or any of the Swift Boat garbage thrown at him but what I mean is that Kerry was perceived as elitist, distant, verbose, paternal and not someone you could warm up to. Match up Romney and Obama on the likeability factor alone and Romney is trounced. Then, with his “give the wealthy more and the 99% less” flat tax plan he’s flip flopping into next week (yep, he’s already said he’s tossing away his big tax plan to chase after the flat tax plans of Cain and Perry), who the hell except hardcore Repubs want four more years of the year we’re going through now?

  • ADONAI : Wait. was the train moving?

  • PatsyT : OK I’ll look for it.

  • kesmarn : Patsy, the last hard hitting MSM story I saw was about a woman who rescued a puppy from the top of a freight train.

  • SallyT : Patsy, that would be a good one for 60 mins.

  • ADONAI : Patsy, The Patio

  • ADONAI : You mean when are poor journalists going to expose poor journalism? Never.

  • Sabreen60 : Chris, I noticed that at Bloomberg, Politico (of course), the Daily Beast and The Hill. The comments are unbelievable. I even tweeted Jonathan Alter after reading comments posted to his article and asked him how he could continue to write at Bloomberg.

  • PatsyT : Ha, AD What group?

  • PatsyT : When is the MSM going to do a story exposing the paid troll phenomenon ?

  • ChrisR266 : Patsy: I agree. I’d pay good money to see it.

  • kesmarn : Chris, it’s been so long since I’ve been to HP. What’s their current obsession?

  • ChrisR266 : AD: I know. I have been a student of that contest. That is the point.

  • ADONAI : I got forced into a Facebook group.

  • ChrisR266 : I know this haven is a safe harbor for many disaffected HPers, but I would suggest that you pop in there and into other haunts like politico from time to time. The troll rhetoric has become schizophrenic and strident, almost beyond the pale.

  • ADONAI : Good point sally.

  • SallyT : Truman wasn’t popular but the people were to afraid to make a change at that time. Korea and such.

  • ADONAI : That’s where I give Obama the big edge too. He can debate. Well. Very well. Can read an audience instantly and tailor his message appropriately. I got much respect for his political skills.

  • ADONAI : He did Chris. Just barely. It was considered a huge upset. Truman, I think, wasn’t uber popular at the time.

  • Sabreen60 : Yeah, but Cain is dressed in a church choir rode singing about making money. The Bible refers to him as a “money changer”.

  • PatsyT : Yes Chris I want to see him have the nerve to tell the Pres he is week on international affairs

  • kesmarn : OOps…«link» w.youtube.com/wa tch?NR=1&v=0vPdx _uvp_I

  • kesmarn : Patsy, if you want to hear more Cain crooning, here’s one that was meant to go right to the hearts of the religious right.

  • ChrisR266 : ADONAI: And, despite the corporate media predicting Dewey, I think Truman still has the heart of the nation.

  • ADONAI : again I agree Chris. Completely

  • ADONAI : I have one thing to say about sure things: Dewey Defeats Truman. the roles are reversed but you get what I’m saying.

  • PatsyT : Where is the one with the girly dancers in the background?

  • ChrisR266 : Ad: I cannot wait for the debate between Romney and Obama. I can’t wait for the debate between any one of them and Obama. He’ll rip them limb from limb.

  • PatsyT : That man can sing a bit … I’ll give him that

  • AdLib : AD – On any given day, any team could beat another. It depends on the conditions and how well they play that day. I think that Romney doesn’t have a deep bench, just the opposite, he has a very shallow one. Obama however has a deep bench and so many skills to call upon. Yes, Romney could beat Obama theoretically but if you stacked the two men up like sports teams, I think the smart money would be on Obama. Especially if things keep improving as they have the last few months.

  • kesmarn : That’s hilarious. Well, his voice isn’t too bad…. :-(

  • ChrisR266 : Adonai: These house whores bet the House on social wedge issues that don’t fly when there’s 9+% unemployment. They also don’t fly when people begin to realize that what political dogma they offer is oppressive, divisive, and counter to a thriving society. We have the perfect storm approaching, and these idiots just refuse to see it.

  • Sabreen60 : AD, If you believe that Romney COULD beat Pres. Obama, that’s not saying much for the American people. How do you know what to believe re Romney? He’s taken a zazillion positions on each issue. He doesn’t have two faces, it’s more like five.

  • ADONAI : Oh yes I di-id!

  • PatsyT : Oh no you didn’t .. ADONAI !

  • ADONAI : «link»

  • SallyT : Or pizza breath, AdLib.

  • Sabreen60 : Cain reminds me of Clarence Thomas. And I hate to say this, but his wife seems like she better not breath to hard in his presence.

  • ADONAI : I agree Chris. The House’s poll numbers across the board are abysmal.

  • ChrisR266 : Sabreen: The House will be Democratic again. We will have Nancy back. Whew.

  • AdLib : Cain’s ad wil be used as a public service announcement in the future to warn children about getting into a car with a man offering them candy…or cigarettes.

  • ADONAI : Romney could beat Obama. Not saying would, just saying could.

  • ChrisR266 : And, let’s be real. the GOPTEA will never elevate a black man to the nomination for President. It’s just not going to happen. And that is exactly why the party is dying.

  • kesmarn : Oops. I meant the RR (religious right) not RW.

  • ADONAI : Al, i think the all consuming need to remove Obama from office will eventually compel people to vote Romney.

  • kesmarn : I suspect the RW is still leaning toward Perry. He uses the dog whistle buzz words.

  • PatsyT : They need to superimpose a playground in that ad

  • Sabreen60 : Chris, sure hope you’re right. We’ve got to hold the Senate and take by the House.

  • kesmarn : Patsy, that ad alone was enough to sink Cain. Ne’mind all the silly things he has said.

  • AdLib : Romney is certainly the most likely to win…but so was Hillary and Giuliani four years ago. If I was betting today, I would say Romney but the Baggers got loons on the ballot in 2010, until we see what happens with the turnout at the actual primaries, we just won’t know. There is the possibility that when Repubs get in the booth, they just can’t vote for Romney because they don’t trust him. If that happens, who knows?

  • ChrisR266 : Patsy: I agree. We were looking at a lecher at the end of that ad.