In an interesting development relating to the story I published yesterday, three leading conservative figures:  Bob Barr, Grover Norquist and David Keene; support trying and holding terror suspects in US. When I read this I truly thought “did hell just freeze over”.

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Following is the open letter they published.

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Now maybe Democrats can get behind the president and AG Holder so we can finally close the stain of Gitmo.

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nellie
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Hey, KQuark — HP must have seen your story here. It’s the main right now:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/16/conservative-trio-support_n_358928.html

AdLib
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KQ strikes again, scoops HP on what should be a top story!

Props KQ!!!

escribacat
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I am sure the president knew that this move would cause foaming and eruptions and whatnot in the right wing. I’m sure he knew they would say he’s “weak on terror” and the rest of the predictable stuff. I am sure they went over all the scenarios with a fine-toothed comb and know exactly what is going to happen and how it will be managed.

nicole473
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Pres. Obama did exactly the right thing. This is what we voted for…..a return to a constitutional government.
The Repubs fighting this, Lieberman, et al, need to be called out by focusing on the legalities. They swore to protect, defend and UPHOLD our Constitution, and they are not doing that.

javaz
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And then there’s the bad news :

http://washingtonindependent.com/66754/graham-amendment-would-bar-trials-of-terror-suspects-in-federal-court

“”. . . Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), joined by Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Jim Webb (D-Va.), is today pushing a measure that aims to do just the opposite.

The Graham amendment is expected to come to a vote today during consideration of the Commerce/Justice/Science appropriations bill. The earlier Homeland Security and Defense Department spending bills already include restrictions on transferring Guantanamo detainees to the United States.

This restriction, which is reportedly backed by 150 family members of victims of the 9/11 attacks, would bar the trials of the alleged 9/11 plotters in civilian federal courts, effectively forcing them to be tried by military commissions.””

“”Last week, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Attorney General Eric Holder warned Senate leaders that Graham

KevenSeven
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How, in Dog’s green earth, are the opinions of the victims families in any way relevant in this matter?

nellie
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I think John McCain, Joe Lieberman, and Lindsay Graham are really close personal friends, and all resent Barack for beating McCain in the general. It’s hard to believe they actually believed McCain had a chance — especially after choosing Palin as his running mate — but they seem to feel cheated and bitter, and willing to do anything they can to stand in they way of what the president needs to do.

I fully expect Lieberman to vote against cloture, lose his committee chair and become a Republican over the health care bill.

I’m a little surprised at Webb. I don’t understand the push back. There may be things going on behind the scenes that we know nothing about. Or it could be that the GOP winning the governor’s seat has giving him a case of the nerves.

P.S. KQuark, I love your graphic on this story!

javaz
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I do not think that the Republicans respect Barr so much, since he left the Republican Party and ran as a Libertarian against McCain/Palin.

But then there’s this :

http://washingtonindependent.com/66690/prominent-bipartisan-group-supports-trial-of-gtmo-detainees-in-federal-court

“A bipartisan group of more than 120 judges, prosecutors, diplomats, former members of Congress and high-level military and government officials yesterday released a proposed plan for closing the Guantanamo Bay prison camp and trying all suspected terrorists in civilian federal court.”

It’d be surprising if the Republicans and their pundits stop the fear-mongering regardless.
Hopefully the Democrats will push back, as you say, and support AG Holder and the president.