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AdLib On October - 20 - 2017
Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT Hope to see you then!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hello what’s your name! I hope you know who joins us tonight, as well as your man.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “General Untruth” when you arrive!
AdLib 7 days ago
What’s up PPO?
AdLib 7 days ago
General Mayhem and Major Disaster are in da W House.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Colonel of Untruth.
AdLib 7 days ago
Didn’t Kelly just blow up any credibility? An out an out and nasty liar.
AdLib 7 days ago
Not much, Ad. Got my eye injection of my AMD yesterday. Muttering along . Still mad about PR and the lack of assistance
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Kelly is a disgrace to 4 stars.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Is your vision still doing okay?
AdLib 7 days ago
yes, thank goodness. We discovered it in time to keep it at its present level, so I can still drive the car.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PR is sadly similar to New Orleans in Katrina but worse because they are easily ignored and unaware because only 12% of the country has power for cell phones and internet.
AdLib 7 days ago
That’s great to hear!
AdLib 7 days ago
how are the fires doing now? not seeing much here
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hoow is Fergie doing?
AdLib 7 days ago
They’ve knocked them down for the most part but the devastation is incredible.
AdLib 7 days ago
She’s OK. Chronic IBS and scoliosis have slowed her down, not to mention breathing issues. But she’s still a trouper and fully as all hell!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
sorry…funny!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
So important to keep that sense of humor healthy!
AdLib 7 days ago
That’s a lot to manage, glad she’s so strong in dealing with it.
AdLib 7 days ago
I see Trump is declining in his base support now. And with a massive Medicare cut in the new tax cut bill, I think it may finally collapse on him.
AdLib 7 days ago
We’re having 2 great debates here in Oz – Same Sex Marriage and becoming a republic. I’m in favor of both. The Opposition to both seem to be the same fundamental Christian right, as well as the Right-wing Monarchists who want a non-Australian as our Head of State. Dumb, isn’t it
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
You guys said bye bye to George a while back
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
How much more has to happen before the great redneck Trump Supporter realises he’s been well and truly conned from Day 1?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Yes, as how we got stuck with Trump here, the religious and ignorant are terrified of change and cling to concepts that are archaic. Same Sex Marriage and being an independent country are “change” to live in the modern day, which really scares these types.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yep, we have a holiday celebrating our breakup with George.
AdLib 7 days ago
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pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Read an article titled something like, “A Liberal is Just a Coonservative Whose Home Has Flooded”, talking about how these Trump supporters are starting to question if Climate Change might be true and is a danger to them. Only when reality threatens or harms them, do such dimwits see a glimpse of reality.
AdLib 7 days ago
Don’t know if this comes out, but here’s the kind of crap the anti-SSM mob are puting out :

pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Like the Repubs like Dick Cheney who opposed Same Sex Marriage until their own kid comes out.
AdLib 7 days ago
Oh, yeah, very familiar, same terrorist tactics the religious right used in the US, identical!
AdLib 7 days ago
YEs, Ad! I remember that! Hilarious
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Sadly the RWNJs are all working from the same playbook.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
“The Other is evil and needs to be stopped! What? My daughter is an ‘other’? Oh, then ‘others’ should be treated with respect!”
AdLib 7 days ago
ANyway, hope that Mueller will finally DO something!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Saves money to just steal from ther RWNJ. And look how well it worked here in the US!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Sergeant Johnson: silence AMbassador: BENGHAZI BENGHAZI ad nauseam
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – I think we’re still quite a ways off from Mueller concluding his investigation. But the good news is that the indictments could come out in the midst of the 2018 elections! Culd help us retake Congress!
AdLib 7 days ago
Oh, please let it be so, Ad. But will the dems mount a good enough campaign to swing it?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Sure is looking like Niger may be what Benghazi was supposed to be. And the WH won’t confirm or deny if Trump ordered the mission. Add to that, Maddow is running with stories saying that Trump’s inclusion of Chad on the blocked travel list may have caused Chad to pull out of Niger where they were suppressing terrorists.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, seems Rachel may have stretched too far. But she’s usually close.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Individually, Dems will do well but the DNC is all screwed up with establishment/Clinton Dems now purging Progressive Dems from positions of power. They can really screw everything up next year by dividing the party and making it less and less inclusive.
AdLib 7 days ago
Does anyone know if the US has had troops there before trump became ‘pres’?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad….I saw that story on Maddow re. Chag/Niger….it has gotten bashed today on a number of sites. You think it is legit!?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – Yep, she does go too far sometimes, many complaints that she may have done so this time but I am glad to see the focus returning to what actually happened in Niger.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – I wouldn’t bet on it necessarily being the way things were though I like the attempt to put the bigger puzzle together on what happened in Niger. What do you think?
AdLib 7 days ago
I did not have any free time today to pursue the matter. So, no opinion yet.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
What is true is that Trump tried to ignore Niger for 10 days, saying nothing about it r the 4 soldiers killed and refusing too answer questions asking if he ordered the mission.
AdLib 7 days ago
I think this could turn out to be a real Benghazi-type story, why else is Trump trying to bury it?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, wouldn’t believe his replies anyway. Leave it to the Pentagon to explain.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – But if Trump says something, you know the opposite is true, that’s how we learn things.
AdLib 7 days ago
Riiiight!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
BRB covfefe break
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Just a side note. Wrote a piece for Yabberz re. a meeting of ACA recipients titled: Desperate ObamaCare Recipients Who Voted For Trump Gather In Shock, Anger. It can be found at

QUITE WELL RECEIVED. It went viral at the facebook site.

MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
So Murph, do you think Dems will take the House in 2018? Another Repub House member is resigning!
AdLib 7 days ago
Will check it out, Murph! Congrats! And what’s going t happen if the huge cut to Medicare in the tax cut bill goes through???
AdLib 7 days ago
It all depends on the Democrats exciting far more people than they have in the recent past, promoting unity, and knocking back efforts to suppress voting and to combat propaganda.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I don’t know about party unity, so much conflict and anger still going on between Hillary and Bernie supporters. Did you read about the recent purge of Progressives from exec positions in the DNC?
AdLib 7 days ago
The uninformed and the easily fooled stool dominate the electoral base and that causes me grave concern. The cancer at work in the republic is widely spread from the bottom where disengagement runs rampant to the top where corruption seems to have become accepted.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
DNC…..I did….and that is one of the signs that what I think is so is so.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Dems really need a good candidate, but who?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO…national leadership right now is murky in both parties.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I don’t disagree about the majority of voters being far less informed and skeptical than they should be but emotions can insulate people from propaganda. People genuinely dislike Trump and see him as a liar. So anything he “trumps” up can be “trumped” by most voters disliking and distrusting him.
AdLib 7 days ago
The Dems message cannot be confined to ‘Trump’s a liar’ Needs more guts to sway fools!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad…I do hope that your reading is an accurate one…..without an obvious set of alternative choices will they stick to what they have…especially in re. to a GOP majority. President Pence would be a disaster of the first order. Just look at what Justice Gorsuch has done to date and promises to do. I see dark clouds in every direction.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Principles seem quaint right now, Trump’s the final statement of the GOP’s attempt over decades to bring down democracy to its knees. If it can be only about fear and hate, they win. But, if they create that dynamic and they are the ones hated and causing fear, as you described in your article, it will be turned against them.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO…Yessir!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
ad…I live in hope but that is shrouded in skeptical disillusionment…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Still to this day….many of those angry folks are convinced that the entire ACA situation is the result of Obama, Democrats, Liberals…despite the avalanche of info that destros that narrative.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
GOTV early!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – I agree, Dem’s national leadership is screwed up right now, 2018 will be all about the mood of the country after 2 years of the madness of King Trump and I think that alne will be enough to drive voters of all demographics to vote Dem, even if it’s only to vote against Trump.
AdLib 7 days ago
I get your POV Ad….but that electorate has disappointed me in 4 elections and made me proud only once.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Wouldn’t be too quick to that conclusion, Ad. The stupidity will still echo for many, especially when Russia pokes its ursine nose into proceedings
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO- my concern as well.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Historically, midterm elections have almost always resulted in gains fr the party out of power because that is part of the American mentality. A big part of the reason Trump won was voter dissatisfaction with the status quo. Do you really think most Americans will vote for Trump’s status quo after losing or having their health care threatened, more wars being fought in more countries and more soldiers being killed, all thse promised manufacturing jobs not appearing, their paychecks not going as far as they used to and not rising? Dissatisfaction with Trump will be so high by 2018, don’t underestimate voters making their upset clear thrugh their vote.
AdLib 7 days ago
Surely common sense will eventually descend on the USA, but will it in time to change the Congress?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
And don’t forget, the Mueller indictments will likely be out by mid 2018. That will also depress Repub turnout and energize Dem turnout.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, you’ve just outlined the Dem Approach to swinging it! let them know. NOW!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Congress is moving a bipartisan bill to force social media sites to disclose political advertisers. The American public is now better informed on Facebook and Twitter being tools for Russian trolls. Not saying they can’t still have an impact but the bigger impact is when people have no idea what is going, not when they know.
AdLib 7 days ago
More pressure need on Twitter and FB to curb bots
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Given that Trump remains above the fray as the Prince of Lies and that he continues to weave his web with little GOP interference or Dem counters….I have grave doubts about the ability of the contemporary voter to exercise the franchise responsibly.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – I don’t think the Dems will have a strong national operation until there’s a Dem presidential nominee. The DNC is still an establishment self-benefiting organization, used to keep the status quo pols in place. Useless, in other words. But when there’s finally a new Dem leader, that can change.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO…nice surprise waiting for me at Yabberz. Thanks.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Look at the polls, it’s clear that many voters, especially indies, who voted for Trump, have turned against him and see all the campaign promises were cruel lies. You can’t have polling at 34% and have a majority who disapprove so strongly f him, that will just shrug and vote for him again. Won’t happen. Especially with Trump held up against a decent Dem candidate.
AdLib 7 days ago
You’re welcome, Murph! great article
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – How will Trump make 60% of voters who dislike him today into supporters when everything he does or says turns them more against him?
AdLib 7 days ago
Know the article but will they choose GOP candidates in the House and Senate or Democratic ones. What is the draw? Anti-Trumpism…will that connect. I remain skeptical.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – First off, you have a civil war that will poison GOP voters in the battle between Bannon and estab Repubs. That could result in an election where extremists who have to claim, “I am not a witch!” and threaten to use 2nd Amendment rights on Congress, run against sane Dems. Not t mention the mood f the cuntry growing more and more anti-Trump despite a satisfactory economy. What can he do to change that dynamic? I can’t imagine it.
AdLib 7 days ago
I think that Trump is poisonous. Kelly is now ruined in my eyes….his empty drum comments was so tinged with a racial tone that his whole performance was undercut. Why did he do it. For Trump. The man who was supposed to temper Trump has instead been tainted by him.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Damn my “o” key!
AdLib 7 days ago
We get it, ad!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
O, O, O, NOOOOOOOO
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – First there was a phony meme about how Ivanka and Jared were on “our” side and would help to stop Trump from insanity. Then it was Kelly but that’s false tooo. Kelly agreed to work for Trump, he is on the same page as Trump. He is a terrible man, a liar and a phony. Now we know who Kelly is, we need to accept that.
AdLib 7 days ago
I saw a woman handing out free bumper stickers today at a Wal Mart entrance. They read: “Work Harder. Millions on Welfare are Depending On You.” I asked her to explain what she meant by that and she immediately started into invective against me as a “lousy anti-American lib” and was joined by several others. No one said a word agin……that is the mood here.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Which means that there really is nothing between us and the void…frightening.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
In our constitutional system, of which I have been a huge critic for years, only the party in the majority can counter the executive and that party is as corrupt as he is. And now that the SCOTUS has become an instrument of the agenda of the crazy right….I cannot see a way back to sanity in the near future.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – The hateful, mindless minority feel empowered by Trump’s election. But they are a minority and Trump only won by around 70,000 votes. He’s now underwater big time in most swing states. In red states though, the crazies feel empowered.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – It’s not so hopeless though it may feel that way right now (especially in a red state surrounded by people like you described). in 2018, Dems just need to win the House and Nate Silver has seen that as very possible. In 2020, they need to beat a human wrecking ball by just running a sane Dem. That done, SCOTUS judges on the right will be getting very old, will start leaving. It will take time but it can all start this Nov.
AdLib 7 days ago
This week clinics in my state will start turning away children because funding for the Children’s Health Insurance Program has not been renewed. I keep waiting for that moment when people say….”Enough.” So far, very little sign of this except among those who are already a part of the opposition.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sorry folks, gotta rock n roll. See you all next week, if we’re still upright! Take care
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – They need to be hurting first. Having insurance taken away isn’t enough, not being able to pay bills for their medical care will change the minds of many.
AdLib 7 days ago
Good night PPO…next week for sure.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad…..I see the power of propaganda to turn that pain into “the other guys fault” and that is Bannon’s speciality. There is a sizable number of angry Americans who stand rather united on the right….on the left not so much (with many of them in factions as well)…in the middle a sense that there are no choices to be had.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Check out that 538 article that shows Trump declining in red states. Polls have shown that even many Repubs now hold Trump responsible for healthcare. Propaganda can’t overcome suffering, you can’t convince people they’re better off now than 4 years ago when they’re not.
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump owns everything now, only a portion of the minority that supports him will blame Obama after 2 years of Trump and an all Repub Congress.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad….you may well be correct…but those polls fooled most of us in 2016….color me an “informed skeptic.”
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
In fact, they’ve been talking about a corrolation between the topic of healthcare coming up and Trump’s numbers declining.
AdLib 7 days ago
With fingers and toes fully crossed…I do hope your reading is better than mine….but we have not spoken of the kleptocracy that finances all of this….(the Koch’s have Pence in their back pocket and would be quite happy to see Trump perish I think).
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – The national polls generally were pretty close, Hillary did win by 3 million votes.
AdLib 7 days ago
Pretty much as predicted. The state polling may have been off but national numbers were pretty accurate.
AdLib 7 days ago
And that win means nothing in terms of our absurd constitutional structure.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
True but it does affirm that polling isn’t s messed up.
AdLib 7 days ago
I begin to think that the poll results were indeed messed with. I think we are in big trouble. The fix is in.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
How do you think polls were messed with? They’re conducted by a variety of different entities.
AdLib 7 days ago
Targeted interference in states like PA where the state government was GOP and both discouraged voting by legislative action and did not investigate many reported irregularities comes to mind.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Oh, you mean the vote results! Well, maybe in some states, combined with voter ID laws but they can only affect a smal percentage, they couldn’t pervert alandslide against Trump. I think that’s what’s on the way.
AdLib 7 days ago
I hope you are right up and down the line. Well, time to call it a night. Best to you.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Thankfully, PA has a Dem gov now.
AdLib 7 days ago
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