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The Weekend Music Thread – Water

CCR, Green River

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 18, 2011 @ 6:22 am

Quadrophenia has to rank as one of the most watery albums of all time!
Here’s “Drowned”

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 18, 2011 @ 6:14 am

The Daily Planet, Vol. 98

I know why that couple in the “Did you hear a click?” video look so familiar! That’s the two adorable children from “Charlie bit me!” all grown up! And Charlie got a sex change, I see.

My, they grow up so quickly these days, don’t they?

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 18, 2011 @ 1:59 am

The Daily Planet, Vol. 97

Khirad, please explain that. I went back and read the thread again, and I don’t see age or generations even being mentioned until you wrote that we were “all” being “get off my lawnish”. As Kes pointed out on that thread, that comment and the replies it provoked became more of a distraction than anything.

Now that’s fine. Any and all comments are welcomed on my pieces because I write them hoping to find out how other people feel about things that I feel strongly enough to write about. My main point in writing this one was to point out West’s double standards, but no one seemed terribly interested in that, and that’s okay too.

But the incredible condescension arose as an indignant response to your own comment.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 17, 2011 @ 7:37 pm

Welcome back, Cher! Hope you’re on the mend.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 17, 2011 @ 1:10 am

The Insanity Defense for Trickle Down

KQ, according to “Salary Wizard”, the average salary of a corporate CFO is $333,000.
For R&D Directors, it’s $183,000.
For HR Directors, it’s $141,000
http://www.salary.com/salary/index.asp

Apparently a company’s stock portfolio is equal to the worth of its people and its products. Bah!

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 17, 2011 @ 1:30 am

That’s true, it’s kind of arbitrary, isn’t it? Why not say that movie directors have the kind of experience necessary to run government functions? Steven Spielberg is the most successful movie director, so he should be running this country…uh, sure…..

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 16, 2011 @ 6:54 am

Nice to see you, PW. And you’re absolutely right. “Private Is Better” is a fantasy. In fact, it’s interesting to note that one of the main reasons that government organizations ARE so corrupt and mis-run is precisely BECAUSE of the influence of private industry and their lobbying efforts. So I’d say it’s less a matter of needing less government interference with industry as it is one of needing less INDUSTRY interference with GOVERNMENT!!

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 16, 2011 @ 4:59 am

Kanye West Doesn’t Care About White Women

Hi Kes,

The thing is, things can get both better AND worse; such is the complex nature of our world. For instance, for thousands of years, people could look up into the sky and see an incredible light show of stars. But recently, that is withheld from the majority of people living in major cities. But we have electricity, and so our lives are both more and less than our ancestors.

So it’s kind of just an old saw to say, “oh, yeah, things were SO much better in YOUR day” and then bring up some of the horrible things that happened in the past.

That’s. Not. What. We. Are. Saying.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 16, 2011 @ 3:08 pm

KT, replying here because we ran out of space below. I agree with you about what the infamous Godfather scene was about. But I am referring to the visceral reaction that first time viewers had/have to it. I think most people would agree it’s the most memorable and disturbing. It was certainly the most talked about when the film came out.

You probably know this, but Coppola used a real horse’s head, obtained from a slaughter house, for that scene.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 16, 2011 @ 4:13 am

Khirad, where is this quote about things being so much better? I may be wrong, but I think you’re doing a little reading between the lines here.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 16, 2011 @ 1:47 am

I agree. It’s become a stupid game of one-downmanship.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 16, 2011 @ 1:45 am

I already have a perspective, Khirad. It is one that is quite different from yours. Others here seem to share it, at least in some respects.
So if by “some” perspective, you mean “your” perspective, I must decline.

So we will always disagree on this, what’s the big deal? I love ya too. But I hate misogyny. I hate it portrayed and I hate it acted out in the real world, on real people. If I could only choose one, of course, I, like you, would choose the portrayed variety over the real one.

Just like I would choose a skin rash over a third degree burn. But when I get a skin rash I’m still gonna bitch about it.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 16, 2011 @ 1:41 am

Hi kes,

exactly right; I’m not calling for censorship. I think the work is vile and misogynistic, and I think the fact that there are even more vile things out there, thus rendering this video “tame” serves to bolster my belief that our cultural norms are truly out of whack, and don’t serve us.

I also think that in this particular case it is fair to call out West about the women’s whiteness, because of former actions/statements of his.

This is an opinion piece – plain and simple. I value all the comments people have made here, but let me be honest and admit I value the comments from the women more in this particular case, since it is women who are being degraded by this trashy video.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 15, 2011 @ 11:27 am

I agree, Kalima. If it’s fogey-ish and outdated to find the images in “Monster” repellant, then I submit that it is a far superior thing than being “hip” enough to be nonchalant about it.

I think most women would actually agree with us, regardless of age. Camille Paglia can always be counted on to stand up for stuff like this. But then she’s nuts about Sade, and once said she is “dying to see” a snuff film.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 15, 2011 @ 2:40 am

Same with the horse’s head in the original Godfather movie. The violence in general was much discussed, but if anyone, talking about the movie, mentioned “That Scene”, there was little doubt about what they were talking about. It really hit a nerve. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing at all. I just wish we had our nerves hit more by the trashy, depraved way that women are so often depicted in the media.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 15, 2011 @ 2:25 am

Thank you, c-lady. I feel exactly the same way; there just isn’t a single thing that makes the images okay.

Kanye should be ashamed, as should anyone who degrades women. But we have a culture that HAS no shame and is totally cool with womens’ bodies being used as the pin cushion of choice for “artists” desperate to get our attention.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 15, 2011 @ 2:21 am

you know what they say…humor is in the pie of the beholder!

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 11:31 pm

ha ha, well, actually you probably realize I’m being facetious. Seriously, I respect you and your opinions, but still see humor in the fact that you and I are poles apart on this subject. I hope you did too.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 11:00 pm

[img]https://planetpov.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/rosie-scared.jpg[/img]

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 10:24 pm

ha, no, Rosie’s eyes have been shielded by yours truly!

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 10:18 pm

Yeah, Jesus Christ people! Stop getting upset about depictions of necrophilia, beheading and murdering women! That stuff is so TAME!
Get lives!

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 10:13 pm

jkk, that’s my point, that Dali WOULDN’T do such a thing. If someone interpreted one of his works as misogynist, he might have said that he didn’t intend that when painting, but he wouldn’t have told the person they were not allowed to interpret it that way. Those are the rules, when you make art.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 9:53 pm

I like that – trying and failing to be pretentious! I mean, jeez, of all the things to fail at! You’d think he could reach a little higher…:)

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 9:39 pm

Thanks for the comments, KT. Though some here have hastened to call the video “tame” and “not shocking”, I hardly think that speaks well OR ill of it. I think that’s beside the point, actually. IF we can just yawn and dismiss scenes like those in the video because we’ve seen much worse, what does THAT tell us?

As for me, I have written repeatedly on this subject, particularly in “To Censor Or Not To Censor”, “Sade and the Body”, and “Selling Gingerbread”, so I’ve already made my own thoughts clear on the matter.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 9:37 pm

Khirad, thanks for showing the beautiful painting, but I’m sure you’ll admit that there are at least Seven Degrees of Separation between it and the “Monster” video.

You’re basically arguing that if they can ban smoking, they can ban broccoli as well.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 9:32 pm

KQ, I am attempting to illustrate the adage that glass houses and throwing stones don’t mix. After all, the title of this piece is a variation on West’s own words.

Truthfully, I have no idea to what degree West is racist, just as he has no idea to what degree Bush’s attitudes toward African Americans influenced the U.S. (inadequate) response to Katrina. If he had said, “George Bush doesn’t care about poor people” it would have been different, obviously.

It is West who – continually – chooses to perceive things through the prism of race, and therefore he deserves to be “judged” by the same standards.

I put the same question to you I put to audadvnc: If Eminem, or Kid Rock, had released a video that showed scenes of exclusively black women hanging from the ceiling, and them engaged in necrophilia with dead black women, what would your outrage level be?

From Lou Reed’s song, “Good Evening, Mr. Waldheim”, sung to Jesse Jacskon:

“If I ran for President
and once was a member of the Klan
wouldn’t you call me on it
the way I call you on Farrakhan?”

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 9:26 pm

🙂

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

yes, and of course when I write “social illness” I am only referring to the last twenty years. What a clever mind reader you are!

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 1:04 pm

Grandiose is what West does, Kes. I quoted the disclaimer because I find the wording so smug and phony. “…is in no way to be interpreted…..”

Sorry, Kanye, but you can’t dictate how people interpret “art pieces”.
Imagine a TRUE artist, like Dali, telling viewers how they could, and could not, interpret his paintings.

» Posted By whatsthatsound On June 14, 2011 @ 12:59 pm

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