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The Occupy Wall Street Thread

Occupy Phoenix gaining momentum

The movement is growing rapidly in Phoenix leading up to a protest Saturday. There are people from different generations and they are involved because they want to talk about money, who has it and how it controls our lives.

Hundreds, perhaps thousands, will converge on Cesar Chavez Memorial Plaza in downtown Phoenix Saturday joining protesters around the country.
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Apollo Poetry, who claimed to be a Republican, recently became a spokesperson for the “Occupy Phoenix movement. I say recently, because this movement or organization in all cities is in its infancy.
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“This place is a ghost town on Saturday,” I said. “Do you think you are going to get any bang for your buck on Saturday?”

“Yes, we are expecting thousands of people to show up and we don’t expect it to end on Saturday,” Poetry said.

http://www.azfamily.com/outbound-feeds/yahoo-news/Occupy-Phoenix-is-gaining-momentum-131746198.html

» Posted By javaz On October 13, 2011 @ 6:57 pm

Bloomberg to “temporarily” clear Zucotti Park for cleaning.

Holloway promised “protesters will be able to return to the areas that have been cleaned, provided they abide by the rules that Brookfield has established for the park.”

Among new rules posted at the park are a ban on sleeping bags and other camping paraphernalia.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/12/new-york-protest-square-to-be-temporarily-cleared-mayor/

» Posted By javaz On October 13, 2011 @ 5:50 am

Oh! The humanity!

Check out David Brooks and Gail Collins compromises for solving the financial crisis.
(caution – remember it’s David Brooks and Gail Collins, so read at your own peril)

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/to-the-barricades/?hp

» Posted By javaz On October 12, 2011 @ 4:04 pm

Kentucky city commissioner wants to go ‘Taliban’ on the Occupiers.

When asked to clarify he stated –

“The Taliban, as they see it is resisting occupation. I am resisting the Occupiers and very proud to be a 1%’er. I figured that the irony would be lost on most of the dummies in Occupation Nation who oppose the war in Afganistan because they see us as occupiers. I happen to oppose the war too but for highly different grounds. PS I am proud of our troops and have a son in harm’s way.”

Seems Steve Frank is missing the point of OWS.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/12/kentucky-city-commissioner-i-feel-like-going-taliban-on-occupy-protesters/

» Posted By javaz On October 12, 2011 @ 11:12 am

TAKE ACTION: Suggest and Support Petitions For The Obama Admin to Review

Oh yeah.

Ross Perot was correct about NAFTA.

» Posted By javaz On September 24, 2011 @ 12:58 pm

Love the voter suppression initiative, but no to UFOs?
Oh noes!
LOL

Have you ever read William Grieder?
We just finished a book by him called, “Come Home, America”, and he explained what’s going on in such a fashion that even I could understand.
He laid out the differences between FDR and the Great Depression, to Obama and the Great Recession.
And he covered all presidents in between and the policies that have led to where we are today.

During FDR’s terms, corporations worked together with the government in the recovery, unlike today.
It has to do with tariffs in helping the recovery.

I can’t voice this correctly, and maybe someone can help me with this, but we keep giving corporations tax breaks in this country and some even get subsidies, yet there is no incentive for them to hire American workers.

We keep importing goods from China and other countries and we sell them so very cheaply here.

We need to start a high import tax, which would hopefully lead to corporations bringing jobs back home to America whereby they could avoid the import taxes.

Does this make sense and do you know what I mean and if so, do you think that it’s possible or have the corporations won?

» Posted By javaz On September 24, 2011 @ 12:56 pm

The Death of Troy Davis and Reasonable Doubt

The Christianity that I was raised by has been thwarted or changed, so that it now means that God wants war and killing.

They’re going by the old testament and twisting Christ into a warrior against the poor.

I remember while a little girl in a Catholic School, and how they went from Latin for mass to English, and how they began teaching that GOD IS LOVE.

I think the GOD is love thing is all gone now and we’re back to fire and brimstone and Jesus hating the poor.

» Posted By javaz On September 22, 2011 @ 2:53 pm

As many know, we lost our daughter – my husband’s daughter, and my step-daughter, but she was mine, as I became her mother when she was 12 years old, since her mother had died, and that made her mine.

The accident that killed her had no rhyme or reason – clear road, clear night, paved road, no alcohol, no drugs and the person who is responsible for her death was her boyfriend who was driving the motorcycle.

Do we hate that young man and want revenge?

NO.

I get it, in that it’s not the same as someone pulling a trigger and killing her outright.

My husband, was at first very bitter toward the guy, but he let that go as it would serve no purpose.

The worst part of it, was that no one ever to this day, as there were others involved and it was a domino effect that led to her death, but the worst part is, is that no one involved ever made an attempt to say that they were sorry.

It’s awfully hard to forgive, when no one says that they’re sorry, but my husband has forgiven them all.

We’ve had to forgive in able to live again.

The thing about the slain man in the Troy Davis case are the reports that they smiled while he was being murdered by the state.

And then I heard this morning that the family released a statement that said that they took no joy from Troy’s death, but maybe now they’ll understand how they felt losing their son, brother and father.

WTF?

Troy Davis’s family lost him when he was incarcerated.

I can’t explain it correctly and please forgive me for that.

But even the family of Mr. Byrd, who was murdered by Lawrence Brewer in such an unimaginable and horrific way, even Mr. Byrd’s family asked the state of Texas not to kill him.

My faith in God is doubtful at this point.

I’ve lost my faith, is what I am trying to say.

This is not what I learned at all growing up and I’m losing my faith every single day the longer the Rick Perry’s and faux Christians, such as Pat Robertson saying it’s okay to divorce when a spouse gets Alzheimer.

We’ve really lost our conscience in this country, and maybe we’ve never had conscience and I’m finally just realizing it.

» Posted By javaz On September 22, 2011 @ 2:45 pm

Well, I don’t care if Troy Davis was guilty or innocent.

There!

I said it.

Capital punishment is WRONG.

There was also an execution yesterday of Lawrence Russell Brewer in Texas and he’s the white supremacist who killed a black man, James Byrd, by chaining him and dragging him on the back of his pickup truck.

And as abhorrent as that crime is, even Mr. Brewer did not deserve death by the state because capital punishment is WRONG.

The right-wing is all about saving embryos and zygotes, but when it comes to living people, they cheer death.

Hell, even when it comes to Americans lacking health care, they cheer death.

But let a woman in a Catholic Hospital, during birth, where it’s a life and death scenario and the hospital chooses to save the mother, the right-wingers are angered over the death of the baby and they believe that both should have died.

Up is down.
Black is white.
War is peace.

What a messed up, jumbled up, mixed up world we are living in.

» Posted By javaz On September 22, 2011 @ 2:12 pm

The Republican Cure For Everything…Tax Cuts!

Yes, off the 160, but we’re east of Durango and on the way to Alamosa, which we have yet to visit, but are planning to go there to see the Colorado Sand Dunes.

» Posted By javaz On September 22, 2011 @ 2:16 pm

OH!
There’s actually a ranch near this campground called – A River Runs Through!
And there’s a waterfall on that ranch and a river!

We’re at the Sportsman’s Campground and we’re 20 miles up the mountains from Pagosa Springs.

It’s not a trailer park per se, but a campground that has tent camping spots, cabins people can rent, and then us RVers.

It’s really out in the boonies amid cattle ranches and pine trees and it’s gorgeous.

» Posted By javaz On September 22, 2011 @ 1:37 pm

Hey Sue!
Sorry to take so long to reply, but the WIFI here is an “iffy” thing at times.

I think it’s the management at that Walmart that made it sad.
Poor management.

We didn’t plan on staying here 2 months, and we only had reservations for one month, but when we were reading that it was still so miserably hot in AZ, we asked for another month and that meant that we needed warmer clothes.

We both only had one pair of jeans and more important, we needed warmer pajamas for sleeping. (it’s below freezing here at night, but very pleasant during the day since the rains have stopped)

The store was in disarray, and unlike other Walmarts there was no bakery, and Walmarts usually do have excellent bakeries – we love bread from Walmart.

There were hardly any winter clothes for adults.
Plenty of back-to-school clothes for kids, but when it came to adults, nearly all the racks were sale racks of summer clothes.
I was hoping to buy a sweater.

I ended up buying us sweats, and even though the choices were limited for that, I must say that for 5 bucks for the pants and another 5 for the tops, the sweats are exceptional and washed well with no shrinkage or bleeding colors, but sadly, made in China.

They were also limited on choices of goods – such as canned foods, packaged bread and even simple things like peanut butter and jelly.
Very few options were available.

The store is clean and it was majorly packed, but it was very difficult to find certain things.
It was good luck in the vitamin aisle!

There’s a store in town called ALCO and it’s reminiscent of the old SS Kresge stores or Woolworth’s – do you remember those?
I was able to get us jeans and sweaters from that store, and the prices were very reasonable and sadly once again, everything was made in China.
The socks are American made though!

» Posted By javaz On September 22, 2011 @ 1:20 pm

Durango is one hour away, and it’s high desert.

There’s a Walmart there – on the outskirts of town, and it’s one of the the saddest Walmart’s that I’ve ever been to, and we have traveled all over the 48 states, except for 5 states.

Durango is a very cool town, especially if you’re into trains.

Durango is similar to Scottsdale, Arizona, but much smaller and all about trains.

There’s a history about it all, and I won’t bore you with that but the trains were not running to Silvervado because of mudslides.

My husband and I are into traveling.

We have a trailer that we tow, and before that we drove a C-Class motor home that we bought used, and it was when we owned that that we traveled.

And then to make it even better, my husband was offered an opportunity in Paris, France, and we did that.

I never wanted to actually go to Europe, but there was no way that I’d turn it down.

And I’m very scared of flying, yet I did it anyway.

It was the chance of a lifetime, and plus, France did not make us place our dog and cats in quarantine.

We traveled Europe and we went off the beaten path where tourists normally never go.

We got so lost in Switzerland and stopped for directions from a farmer and it was the Austrian speaking part, and that farmer would not let us go, until he thought that we understood his directions.

When we were in Florence, Italy we got so horribly lost and because our car had French plates, the policia spoke to us in French.

People are the same all over the world.

We all grieve when we lose a loved one and people care about their families and children.

» Posted By javaz On September 20, 2011 @ 6:50 pm

What a difference between being in a semi-blue state, Colorado, compared to living in Arizona.

Last night on the news from Denver, the local news did a story about PBO’s plan and raising taxes on the rich for those making a million dollars annually.

My husband and I braced for it but we were shocked, SHOCKED, that the news from Denver told the truth.

They explained that the rich pretty much pay what we all do on income, but the difference is that the rich make most of their money from dividends and on those investments they only pay 15%.

They then went to Boulder, where according to them is where the vast majority are millionaires, and they took a poll asking them what they thought of the tax hike.

SHOCK!

They all said that they have no problem with paying higher taxes and were prepared for it, since they thought the Bush tax breaks on the rich would have expired already.

And let me reiterate what I’ve said here before – we’re in Pagosa Springs, Colorado, and their actual population is under 2000 people, but it’s a tourist town and the majority of tourists are Texans.

The tourists have money – lots of time shares, and summer homes, golf and horseback riding, but honestly, it’s a down home atmosphere, as there not any fancy restaurants.

Hunters are here BIG time right now and I swear to God that they are all Texans.

Do you know how much it costs out-of-state people to come here and hunt?

It’s over 360 dollars for a license to hunt for deer and close to a grand for moose and black bear.

Texans here are very friendly people.
They love to talk.

So, I ask them what they think of their governor, and pretty much, they hate him, or else they don’t follow that “politics-horseshit”.

They’re really into football, as are the Colorado people, and that’s fun, as we love football, too, but nowhere near like they do here and the Texans really do take the cake in flying their Cowboy and Longhorn flags – even when they tent camp.

I swear to God that we’d move here in a New York minute, except for their winters.

It’s very cold here – we’ve had one night of freezing temps – and us desert rats are so not used to that, especially in September.

But the aspens and scrub oaks are turning colors and it’s so incredibly beautiful.

There was snow on the upper peaks of the mountains last weekend, but it warmed up, so the snow melted.
And by warmed up, I mean 63 degrees.

They do not have a problem with the bark-beetle here killing off their pines, as it gets cold here still and they get over 6 feet of snow.

We’ve already made arrangements to come back next August through September.

This is heaven, even with all the Texans!
LOL

» Posted By javaz On September 20, 2011 @ 5:05 pm

The Daily Planet, Vol. 144

Hey!
You!

How are you?

It’s good to see you again.

It’s been a long time.

» Posted By javaz On September 13, 2011 @ 5:42 pm

Isn’t it sort of serendipitous that Arianna and Markos were Republicans, and now they’re both “alleged” liberals and progressives?

Opportunists, in my very humble opinion.

They saw an opportunity and they went for it, and their true colors are coming out and their true colors are RED-Right-Wing.

I could go all CT here, but I think that they saw an opportunity, and sucked in Liberals and Progressives, and the Tea Party has taken over the GOP, so now they are working on dissembling Democrats, because the GOP is whacked due to the Tea Party.

Since the GOP is Tea Party crazy, the Arianna and KOS want to destroy the left by infiltrating it.

Does that make sense?

It makes sense to me, but sadly, I’m not able to voice it correctly.

The enemy is from within.

We won’t be fooled again!

» Posted By javaz On September 13, 2011 @ 5:39 pm

May I add something that I think should be “news”?
(at least on the blogosphere)

There’s a boycott going on, from an “alleged” left-wing site named Daily Kos.

It’s kind of hard to explain, or rather, complicated, but anyone familiar with Daily Kos knows that Markos recently stepped in to ‘moderate’ his site, and he’s been missing for quite some time.

DailyKos has gone full FDL/Hamsher – and Kos has been ignoring his site since Keith Olbermann got his spot on Current TV and Markos became his sidekick.

Markos has called it the “Purge of 2011” wherein he took a side between the Obama-sux/Obama-rox cliques and guess who won?

36 active commenters have been banned, and except for a few sock-puppets and one racist from the Obama-sux camp, every person banned is a person of color.

He also removed privileges from members who are people of color, and members (me!) who support equality, and pro-Obama supporters (also me!).

Now, I’m not an active blogger there, but my mistake was uprating comments by people who were fighting against the racism on that site and people supporting Obama.

I’m not banned on that site, but might be now, because I haven’t looked this week as I am honoring the boycott.

Why might I be banned you ask?

Because when the diaries were posted about the boycott, I was telling people to come here to the PlanetPOV.

Daily Kos has roughly 3% African Americans as members, and from the purge, 33% of those purged were from Black Kos.
No other group lost 33% of their members.

So, there’s a boycott for one week and I am hoping that other blog-sites pick up on it.

There was a great group there called Criminal Injustice and the founders lost their privileges, and they’re not going back.

(I’m very bad, in that I told them to post or cross-post here on the Planet, so my days on that site are over most likely – I’ll check back next Monday to see if I’m banned!)
LMAO

Kos had some great authors – TIMT who always posted pro-Obama diaries and he’s now banned, and Adept2U, also posted pro-Obama diaries and he was very vocal in fighting back against the racism and he’s also banned.

Then there’s Soothsayer – a white woman who is a professor who teaches Sociology, and she founded Criminal Injustice with another person conlapka (please excuse my misspelling) and they always fought the racism on KOS and both lost privileges on that site.

PlanetPOV is mentioned on another site in their blog roll, called The People’s View – and just as this site was started as an anti-HuffPo site, the TPV is just starting as the anti-KOS.

I am standing with the KOS boycott, for whatever it’s worth, but I’d like to urge members here to support the boycott.

Clicks bring money to sites, so please, for one week, do not click on KOS.

And I’ve been on TPV and plugging the Planet and asking TIMT and Adept to publish here, as they would be welcome here and give a voice to African Americans.

I hope that everything that I’ve written makes sense!

» Posted By javaz On September 13, 2011 @ 4:24 pm

Time Out for O/T – Vol. 17

Everyone must know by now that Russell Pearce was recalled and everyone must know Sheriff Joe’s reaction, right?

If I’d’ve been a betting woman, I’d’ve lost.

Russell Pearce’s recall has breathed a breath of fresh air into Arizona, and given hope to those of us who are Democrats.

Forget anything you read about recalling Jan Brewer, because that isn’t going to happen, and us Democrats are not even working toward that pie in the sky.

What us Democrats are now working on is getting Richard Carmona to replace Kyl.

It’s one step at a time, and by Pearce’s recall, it’s energized the Democrats in Arizona.

My God, the Republicans aren’t even trying to pretend anymore in protecting the rich.

And the Democrats, and sadly that includes Obama, are in on it, too.

Politics are local, and working for Carmona for the Senate, is a very small beginning, just as those working in Massachusetts to elect Elizabeth Warren.

Pearce’s recall gives me hope along with the OWS.

» Posted By javaz On November 11, 2011 @ 4:57 pm

Ours is coming in from Florence.

And it’s something.

» Posted By javaz On November 4, 2011 @ 2:40 pm

Holy Bird Crap, Batman!

That was awesome.

» Posted By javaz On November 4, 2011 @ 2:38 pm

Khirad and/or B’ito –

You having a dust storm now?

Just curious, because we’re in a brown out and it’s not a haboob, but it’s a typical dust storm.

I can’t see the mountain and it’s a brown out.

My visual is maybe 6 feet.

Praying for rain.

» Posted By javaz On November 4, 2011 @ 2:34 pm

There are truth in advertising laws, right?

Remember when the sugar industry had commercials out saying that eating sugar can help you lose weight?

Those didn’t last long once someone filed a complaint about truth in advertising.

So, my question is, why don’t those laws apply to political ads?

Aren’t political ads selling a politician?

Second question –

CEOs appear on the ‘PBS Nightly Business Report’ and when asked about jobs for Americans, one of the replies is that we must push our children into math and science to compete globally.

Why then, since corporations are the media, do they give credence to politicians who do not believe in science and/or math.

» Posted By javaz On October 31, 2011 @ 9:29 pm

Happy Halloween!

Was this site down a long time, or what?
Was it just my connection?

The very first thing that I ever did here was 2 years ago on this night, when I wrote something about scary but real life stories and/or dreams.

Was that 2 years ago?

My short term memory is not so good the older I get, and honest to God, it seems like I just put my Halloween Decorations away and yet, here we are again.

Time flies and flies faster the older you get.

It’s a pleasure to be a member of this site and I really mean that.

I don’t blog as much and it’s because my husband is retired and we’re both getting older and I need to spend as much time with him that I can.

Never take anything for granted.

Happy Halloween!

This, for some reason, is one of my favorite nights.

» Posted By javaz On October 31, 2011 @ 8:36 pm

Sheriff Joe – you must have heard this one, and let me tell you that I am not a person that hates, it’s just not in my nature.
Yeah, I write things on blogs and to be honest, I say things in real life, and people just hate me!
LOL
I’m lacking in social skills – always have been and always will be – but my mother never allowed us to have friends, and I went to Catholic School from 1st grade through 12th, and trust me, everyone hated me.

It’s been pretty much my life.

I was married before and goddammit what a trip that was.
Not only did that husband hate me, but he seriously abused me mentally.
He reinforced what I grew up hearing.

Then I met my current husband, who I’m married to since 1992, but we lived together 6 years beforehand, because I was afraid to ever get married again.

Sheriff Joe is an asshole, but people in Arizona are just so full of hate that they keep electing corrupt politicians.

This is Sheriff Joe talking to a group of Teabaggers, and Orlie Taitz is there, and Joe, once again LIES his ass off –

I am not a person who hates, but I really hate Joe.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/10/28/356099/radical-sheriff-arpaio-has-secret-birther-plan-to-keep-obama-off-2012-ballot/

» Posted By javaz On October 29, 2011 @ 8:58 pm

God Bless you, Khirad!

I was disappointed in some harsh replies to Adonai, and God bless you, or whatever deity or whatever to bless you with!

I’d say that my biggest disappointment with PBO is his hiring Tim Geithner.

Wasn’t Geithner part of Wall Street corruption and the TARP?

I’m voting for Obama again, because really, whatever choice do we have?

But both parties have sold out and we’re run by corporations – the world is run by corporations.

Addendum – Geithner was forced to pay his TAXES and Obama still placed him in charge.

Always remember, Barack Obama IS a politician, and a very good one at that.

» Posted By javaz On October 27, 2011 @ 4:15 pm

Shocking.

Plus isn’t Cunningham’s mentor Limbaugh?

» Posted By javaz On October 25, 2011 @ 11:42 am

More inconsistencies for Rubio

Rubio has called the Post’s claim that he “embellished” his family history “outrageous,” and explained in a Politico op-ed last Friday that he might have made a mistake about the specific dates of his parents’ story, but the overall message is the same. “What they described was not a timeline, or specific dates,” he wrote. “They talked about their desire to find a better life, and the pain of being separated from the nation of their birth. What they described was the struggle they faced growing up, and their obsession with giving their children the chance to do the things they never could.”

He continue in the op-ed that he now knows “that they entered the U.S. legally on an immigration visa in May of 1956.”

And they stayed because, after January 1959, the Cuba they knew disappeared. They wanted to go back — and in fact they did. Like many Cubans, they initially held out hope that Castro’s revolution would bring about positive change. So after 1959, they traveled back several times — to assess the prospect of returning home.

But in 2009, Rubio told “All Things Considered” host Robert Siegel that his grandfather in Cuba, who had polio, was hit by a bus, “so, my mom went back with my sister and my brother to take care of her father in 1960. And my dad stayed behind, working.”

And NPR points out a further inconsistency. From NPR’s transcription of its 2009 interview:

When the time came to come home, the Cuban government wouldn’t let her. So, my dad was here in Miami working and desperate, because his family – they would let my sister come because she was a U.S. citizen, but they wouldn’t let my brother and my mom come. And they would go to the airport every day for nine months waiting to be let go, and then finally were able to come. So, it was very frightening. And I think that’s what they do for sure that that’s not the place they wanted to be.

But in the Politico op-ed, Rubio says that his mother went back with his older siblings in February 1961, while his father stayed behind in Miami to wrap things up before joining them. He makes no mention of the nine month waiting period, and says it was a matter of a month before they were back in America. “But after just a few weeks, it became clear that the change happening in Cuba was not for the better. It was communism. So in late March 1961, just weeks before the Bay of Pigs invasion, my mother and siblings left Cuba and my family settled permanently in the United States.”

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/more_inconsistencies_found_in_marco_rubios_family.php?ref=fpb

» Posted By javaz On October 25, 2011 @ 11:39 am

Welcome to Bizarro World –

Pat Robertson calls GOP base too extreme

“Those people in the Republican primary have got to lay off of this stuff. They’re forcing their leaders, the frontrunners, into positions that will mean they lose the general election.”

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/intervention-pat-robertson-thinks-gop-is-too-extreme.php?ref=fpb

» Posted By javaz On October 25, 2011 @ 8:33 am

Sheriff Babeu is considering a run for Congress – thanks to redistricting!

Babeu is the first Republican to announce that he may run in a redrawn district that is expected to cover most of rural western Arizona and is expected to heavily favor Republicans. The congressional map is being redrawn as part of the decennial redistricting process.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2011/10/24/20111024pinal-county-sheriff-paul-babeu-considers-Arizona-House-run.html

» Posted By javaz On October 25, 2011 @ 7:38 am

The thing with the bail-out, is that the very term ‘bail-out’ is WRONG, as it wasn’t a bail-out, but a LOAN and the banks have paid back those loans with interest.
Same with Chrysler and GM – it was a LOAN.
Granted the interest was low, but it’s been paid back, except I’m not sure if Chrysler has paid it back yet in full.

And KQ, and everyone else, I want to clarify my anti-tax attitude (from all them months ago) that I did not voice correctly and led some to think that I was an anti-government Teabagger.

My biggest complaint ever, is that the rich have never paid their fair share.

I want an end to the loopholes.

My biggest tax complaint is that I pay more in taxes than the rich because I cannot afford the lawyers or accountants, and I do not have the money that the rich have, so that they pay less taxes than I do.

I just wanted to clarify that point after all this time, and believe it or not, it has weighed heavily on my mind that what I typed here was mistaken.

It’s my fault but I hope now that you understand that.

I’m one of the 99%.

» Posted By javaz On October 24, 2011 @ 4:16 pm

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