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Time Out for O/T – Vol 4

Update on Sheriff Joe –

District Court Judge G. Murray Snow has ordered sanctions in the big Melendres v. Arpaio racial profiling lawsuit still ongoing in federal court. The sanction addresses in a very measured way the systematic destruction of documents by members of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, even after all documents pertaining to the planning and execution of Sheriff Arpaio’s notorious anti-immigrant sweeps were requested again and again by plaintiffs’ lawyers beginning July 21, 2008.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2010/02/joe_arpaio_sanctioned_by_judge.php

Disturbing article on Russell Pearce and his bill that gives police the power to stop and even arrest any person that they believe is in the country illegally –

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/

Humorous piece on Pearce and his push to get the Ten Commandments posted at the capitol –

In the piece by Howie Fischer, state Senator Pearce calls the commandments “10 little rules” that we should all abide by. And what if you revere, say, Buddha rather than Yahweh? Tough sushi, there, Yoko.

Pearce’s pal state Senator Sylvia Allen suggested that the minority should be more “tolerant” of the majority, even if the majority, like, has all the power and stuff.

Pearce averred that the United States was founded on the principles of the Ten Commandments.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2010/02/neo-nazi_hugger_russell_pearce.php

» Posted By javaz On February 18, 2010 @ 6:56 am

Here come the big rigs … to drink our milkshake

Not sure if this applies, Pepe, but another example of companies that impact the environment and taxpayers are mining companies.

They pollute, you pay. Mining companies are the leading toxic polluters in the nation. The public pays for much of the staggering cost of cleaning up abandoned mines across the West, some of which were orphaned as recently as five years ago. The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that billions of dollars are needed to protect Western drinking water supplies from mine waste, and that cleaning up the estimated half a million abandoned mines across the country may cost $35 billion or more (EPA 2000).

Taxpayers on the hook. Taxpayers will pay much of the cost for cleaning up mines because mining companies often fail to provide enough money to cover the full cost of cleanup, operate mines to the point of bankruptcy, and leave little or no money for reclaiming and cleaning up pollution at the site.

Weak funding rules for companies. The federal government has struggled to set workable requirements for up-front financial assurances that will cover project reclamation and cleanup costs when the mines close, to combat mine abandonments that leave the mine cleanup bill to taxpayers. Mining companies remain in active discussion with the federal government on this issue, claiming that the current requirement for up-front financial assurances for mine cleanup is too stringent, and that bonding companies will not bear the risk of guaranteeing the cleanup cost. In a recent letter to the Department of the Interior, Newmont Mining Corporation notes that because of major losses suffered since 2000 “sureties are simply unwilling, or very reluctant, to underwrite reclamation bonds” (Newmont 2002).

http://www.mining-law-reform.info/Cost.htm

There is story after story on mining companies that go into an area and then pack up and leave once the jobs are done.
They file for bankruptcy to get out of having to pay for cleanup costs, but they simply re-open under a new name and the cycle starts again.

And to think that Republicans want less regulations!

Knowledge is key in stopping the cycle and educating people about the ramifications of allowing large companies into their areas that promise jobs, but leave them on the hook for the cleanup.

Are there groups in Montana and Idaho fighting Imperial/Esso?

» Posted By javaz On December 12, 2010 @ 6:20 am

Time Out for OT – Vol 3

Well, darn it.
If we lived closer, we would go out and buy you groceries.

Let us know if we can help in anyway and at anytime.

» Posted By javaz On February 13, 2010 @ 3:22 pm

Good afternoon, b’ito!
I saw that story, too, and it is more than disgusting.

Hope you are doing well today.

((((hugs)))

» Posted By javaz On February 13, 2010 @ 2:10 pm

Thanks for this, boomer.
I was aware of the video due to seeing it on TV not long after the wedding, but it’s so wonderful to know that the couple have put the money to such a great cause.

» Posted By javaz On February 13, 2010 @ 5:27 am

Shhh, thank heaven for small miracles!

» Posted By javaz On February 11, 2010 @ 1:49 pm

Good News!
One out of ten House Republicans are retiring or running for another office –

Chris Cillizza at the Washington Post notes that the total number of House Republicans set to retire or seek other office is now 18, or slightly more than 10 percent of the 178 seats the GOP holds in the House.

By comparison, Roll Call’s list of departing lawmakers shows that only 12 House Democrats are retiring, or slightly less than five percent of the Democrats’ 255 seats.

http://rawstory.com/2010/02/10-house-gop-run-fall/

» Posted By javaz On February 11, 2010 @ 1:38 pm

I can’t believe the nerve of the Republican Legislator that submitted the bill, and that person is a woman, but of course, she has the support of other Republicans.

I just do not understand why Republicans cannot mind their own freaking business and stay out of people’s personal lives and bedrooms.

I’m really shocked by this and hope the governor doesn’t sign it.
It just seems so wrong on so many levels.

I thought Republicans believed in less government?
I thought Republicans were against a ‘nanny state’.
Unreal.

» Posted By javaz On February 11, 2010 @ 1:13 pm

Republicans are for less government?
Not according to a bill submitted by an Arizona Republican that wants to prolong divorce.
The bill will lengthen the time it takes to get a divorce and require that couples enroll in counseling to understand the ramifications of divorce and another class that would offer suggestions for strengthening marriages.

Rep. Ed Ableser, D-Tempe, questioned how long a woman should be forced to remain married to someone who abuses her.

“That is not my decision to make,” Lawrence responded. “I do believe that people can change. And if a person goes through a life transformation, has a change of heart and a change of attitude and a change of behavior, I still believe even in domestic violence that a marriage can be saved.”

That brought an angry reaction from Bradley, who is a mental health consultant.

“I’ve worked with women who are dead, dead, because they have that line of reasoning, that they thought they could fix this, that they could change that other person,” he said.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/150536

» Posted By javaz On February 11, 2010 @ 1:01 pm

Want to know why I’m up so late?
It’s because I am doing laundry.

And who do you think, doesn’t get to lay in bed with the dog, and complain to you that you should plan their time better, because when they want to sleep, don’t you know?

Who do you think keeps the chrome shining in the bathroom, or makes sure you have a clean towel for when you shower.

Who cooks your meals, except for Thanksgiving and Super Bowl, and then who sets the table, and then clears it, and then loads the dishwasher and washes the pots and the pans.

You think fairies gather your socks and underwear, and then they miraculously appear in your dresser drawers folded so neatly?

Sheesh.

MEN!

Can’t live with ’em, can’t live without ’em.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 9:28 pm

Goodnight B’ito and sweet dreams.
And thank you for your participation on this thread, and I will try not to disappoint you when it comes down to another installment, but this is going to be a long process.
But WE can DO IT!
And it’s really not going to be that long before we get it all together.
And then figure out who to send it to.
And I’m thinking with all of the help from my friends on PPOV, we’ll get it done and we will make a difference.

The thing about this type thing, is we all have to believe that we can.
And yes we can.

Positive thinking, or rather believing in ourselves and our mission, believing we have a just cause and a cause that is for the good of the country will make it happen.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 7:55 pm

Excellent b’ito!

We’ve begun discussing it and the way to get it started.

The founding fathers formed the Continental Congress, and they talked and argued a lot, thus forming the basis for the Declaration of Independence.

They discussed and debated before writing the Constitution.

It all takes time, and it takes discussion and debate.

Perfect!

Am copying your points for future use, if you do not mind.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 4:19 pm

You’ve got it, Sue!
We can work on it, somehow, and someway.
We’ve just got to find the how to start and then work from there.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 4:12 pm

Yes, I agree with your revision, AdLib, but what I was addressing with my comment, was an idea started many comments lower.

I finally got it, and I owe thanks to my husband, because he keeps reminding me of the mission statement of PPOV.

Dgraz really likes the THINK TANK in your mission statement of the site.

And I cannot take credit for all that I’ve written earlier in this discussion, because believe it or not, we talk about this site a lot and its potential.

I’ve finally figured it out with my husband’s help, that this site is not meant to be a social site, even though that’s not a bad thing, as we are a tight group that is open to new members, and differing opinions.

The site is still new, and we, and I’m proud to be a part of the “we” in this, but we want to go beyond the social and beyond the stories or news reports, and WE want to make a difference.

My husband is a pragmatist, and has such deep, intellectual thoughts, but he’s not, sadly, a blogger.

He got me to thinking about ways to combat the teabaggers, and I thought that a way to combat them and the GOP for that matter, was trying to think of a way to form a movement that is a splinter group of the Democratic Party.

I do not care who runs with the idea and I do not care about ‘credit’.

All I care about is getting it done.

And that’s going to be a very long and complicated process, but I truly believe that we have enough intelligence here on this site as a group, to get ‘er done, or at the very least started.

Am I wrong?

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 4:08 pm

Corporations should share their profits with their employees.

That’s my first suggestion on a mission statement for starting a movement, similar to the teabaggers, but a splinter movement of the Democratic Party, which would include everyone – mainly middle class Americans.

See?
I’ve already written so much on this OT/TO and lost you, because I cannot articulate.

I’m suggesting we work on starting a movement to combat the corruption of our elected officials – we have the best bought and paid for Reps and we’ve got them on both sides of aisle.

I’m writing about real change without corporate influence.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 3:38 pm

OMG!
Thanks for that B’ito!

And Dog help us if that blowhard JD Hayworth, who was involved with Jack Abramoff, and is more corrupt than McCain and held a seat in Congress and never introduced one bill, not a one, nor did anything to help Arizonans.

OMG.

We’ll see how much power Joe holds now.

Excuse me, but I think I have to go puke my guts out from just reading this crap.

Argh.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 3:27 pm

All of us here on the Planet must get over our insecurities when it comes to the things we write, and that includes me.
But everyone here must admit that there are writers among us that do a better job of things.

We’ve got to stop thinking of ourselves as individuals and begin thinking of ourselves as a GROUP THINK TANK.

We’ve got to adopt the strategy that we are not working for self-recognition, but as a group of thinkers for the greater good of our country.

We’re not going to make headway or whatever right off the bat with the “Americans United” or whatever name we come up with as a splinter group of the Democratic Party.

Face the reality, the Teabagger thing is already dead, even though the corporate media loves playing that game.

We Planeteers, every single one of us, can work on a movement.

But before we even attempt a movement, we have to work out the mission and then how to achieve it.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 3:20 pm

I’m not asking you, as an individual to lead, all I’m trying to ask you to do is write the article since you are better at writing it than me.

We’re already talking about it and that’s the start.

All of us can help you write the article, but imho, you are capable of writing it, and I especially like the idea of a woman taking on the issue and do not mean that in an offensive way to the men on this site!
😆

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 3:01 pm

We have to make the time.
We have to learn to take it step by step.
But we have to figure out what the steps are.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 2:57 pm

You’re not a follower.
I’m shocked to read that.
You are a highly intelligent woman that writes insightful, well thought out and researched articles.
You’re articulate and a writer.
You have strong opinions and you know what you want.

I consider myself a strong woman, with strong opinions, and I know what I want, but I’m not as articulate as you are and others on this site.

But this site is a THINK TANK, and I wish so much that I could write the thread that would open the discussion for a movement.

It would take time, and we’d have to outline exactly what it is we want.
We know the broad basics, but we would need to work on laying it all out in specifics and then laying out how we get there.

We would have to be rational, because we can’t get everything we want, or desire for the greater good, but – well, it would be a very complicated thing to do, but would it be impossible?

And once a movement took off, and it would, we would be so powerful of a voice of “Americans United” – maybe that’d be our splinter group name instead of teabaggers, that the MSM, and better yet, the politicians could not ignore us any longer.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 2:39 pm

Great article, Cher.
Am so glad you shared that, but that’s not what I’m talking about, exactly.

It’s hard to explain what I’m talking about, and that’s not unusual.

But I am not talking about “media” or “profits” but am talking about starting a movement that somehow forms and takes off.

Heck, I think we’ll even get folks that consider themselves teabaggers, because not all teabaggers are the racist bigots from the Palin Convention in Nashville.

Even folks who consider themselves teabaggers were turned off by that convention and are turned off by the racism.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 2:36 pm

Am going to read it –

But do you think it would be worthy of discussing here on PPOV?

And why couldn’t we at PPOV figure it out?

Why couldn’t we be the leader in figuring it out?

There has to be a way.

There are so many disillusioned, angry, fearful and disenfranchised Americans, and shouldn’t there be a way to get the message out and bring us all together and then work for change?

Real change, without corporate influence?

Just regular Americans that UNITE and . . . what?
How?

There has to be a way.

Back in the 60’s there were causes that united people enough to protest so many things and change did happen.

I just hate feeling as though there’s nothing we can do.

It’s like Keven wrote in that article (his last I think), something about all we do is complain and whine, or whatever he said, but we need to do something.

I can’t think of anything to do – a solution other than organizing a movement, similar to the teabaggers, but for the Democratic Party.

We’re more open, tolerant, and no offense to the teabaggers, well – but we could formulate a course of action and demand actual paradigms for change rather than rhetoric.

Oh, maybe I am far too naive and maybe it is impossible, but geeze-o-peete’s, it’s got to start somewhere.

I’m tired of our voices not being heard or taken seriously.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 2:23 pm

OT, oh wait, this is the OT thread!
LMAO

B’ito, is it raining down by you?

We’ve got one heck of a thunderstorm going on, but no lightning as of yet, and not a whole lot of rain, but it’s all rather awesome.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 2:12 pm

Cher, how do we that, get a leader?

Maybe we need an article about this, and not from me, because I could never express the points correctly or concisely, but do you think it’s something worthy to discuss?

There would be lots of draw backs, because we would favor labor, meaning unions.
And as a former UAW union member – well, that’s a way – well, it’s all so complicated.

Do you think there are enough of us here to actually work out a way?

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 2:06 pm

I’ve had that happen, too. I clicked too soon on the reply and clicked the thumbs by accident.
BTW, I gave a thumbs-up, too, so that ought to even things out!

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 2:02 pm

Don’t go, just give it a break for a day or two, Jan.
I enjoy your reading your comments here and consider you a valuable member of this site.

There’s only a handful of us that are boycotting HP, and most of us do not have an anti-HP sentiment as you think.

I stopped going there because I got tired of the pending and moderation.
There was no room there for honest discussion or debate and the trolls are allowed to say the most despicable things, while my innocuous posts weren’t displayed.

But the thing that angered me to the point of voiding my account there was the call for Biden to resign.
That was it for me.

Don’t give up on us here yet.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 2:00 pm

Yeah, yeah, rub it in!
🙄

I didn’t really care either, and agree that it was nice to see a team win that had never won before and was clearly the underdog.

I wonder how a person or group goes about starting a movement.
The teabaggers had FOX and the insurance companies, but I wonder how regular people can start a movement, a genuine grassroots movement made up of working class and middle class and poor Americans.

I’m so discouraged by everything that’s happening in our country, and PPOV is a think tank, so maybe we could think about actually forming a splinter group of the Democratic Party.

Or is that too naive and impossible?

It has to start somewhere, and I wonder how we could get it started or if it’s even possible.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 1:47 pm

Oh, this is GOOD news –
Conservatives unhappy with FOX ties to Saudi Prince.

FARAH: There

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 12:23 pm

I’m all for it, Sue!
I’m so dang tired of working to elect Democrats, only to have them work for the corporations.
I’m not talking about working for President Obama, but I mean our Representatives.
I can’t think of any other solution than to form a splinter group and search for candidates and support candidates that will work for “we the people.”

(how’s them Wheaties? I had a bad hankering for cereal Monday morning, but my cupboards were bare!!! Hope you, Nellie and Hope enjoy your winnings – the breakfast of champions!)

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 11:57 am

Love it!
Bravo.
More Democrats should call out the Republicans.
It’s just a darn shame that the MSM only covers the RWs, including the teabaggers, and ignores the Democrats and Progressives.

We need a movement similar to the teabaggers, but on the left, and on the side of the working middle class and poor Americans.
A group that would work to elect representatives that would work for the middle class and not the corporations.

Reps that would fight for health care reform, true reform, and would fight for wages – you know, we’re tired of taking pay-cuts and having to work longer hours with less benefits so the CEOs can make bigger profits and be rewarded bigger bonuses.

We need Reps to STOP corporate welfare and the obnoxious bonuses while Americans are losing their homes and health insurance.

The left needs a splinter group that would work to clear the Democratic Party of the corporate-bought-and-paid-for Dems and blue-dog Dems, and bring in Reps that actually represent middle America.

» Posted By javaz On February 10, 2010 @ 11:38 am

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