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When The Simmering Public Finally Erupts

“Tax the Rich” can work, but I have been watching the live stream of the “occupy wall st” and it has been a mish-mash of causes to me. From “save the tree frogs in the Amazon” to “Stop the torture of of Bradley Manning.
(and I’m still pissed at getting hacked by “Anonymous” while watching their demonstration, makes it a bit hard showing them any support if they turn around and hack your computer.)

» Posted By bito On September 28, 2011 @ 8:37 pm

2011-09-28 #OccupyWallStreet spreads: around 70 protests planned in the following weeks #occupytogether

As some predicted, the popular uprising known as Occupy Wall St. is already producing echoes all around the USA. The volunteer based website Occupy Together , whose aim is to create “a site that would help spread the word as more protests organize across the country”, counts over 70 registered protests in U.S. citie. Apart from the main occupations, currently on-going in New York, Chicago and Denver, many will start in the following weeks to coincide with the global protest day of October 15th. In the following days, parks and squares in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington D.C., Kansas City, Houston, among others, will be occupied…..

http://wlcentral.org/node/2272

Is it getting up to simmer and can the left concentrate on one topic for any length of time? Or will it be Bradley Manning, pipelines, clean coal, free Gaza, get out of Afghanistan, end poverty, end aid to Israel…..

I so want this to happen, but FOCUS PEOPLE, FOCUS!

Corporate Greed/income inequality!

» Posted By bito On September 28, 2011 @ 8:15 pm

A People’s History Of The United States
by Howard Zinn
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn

» Posted By bito On September 28, 2011 @ 7:20 pm

“Corporatism is Killing Capitalism”

» Posted By bito On September 28, 2011 @ 6:10 pm

“Sorta-Kinda. He was more interested in the police brutality than he was the “corporate greed” angle. IMHO

» Posted By bito On September 28, 2011 @ 6:05 pm

Sue, I was basically agreeing with you and Em, I just had to get my rant in. 🙂

» Posted By bito On September 28, 2011 @ 5:59 pm

Replying to both Sue and Emerald, I think one of the problems with the lack of coverage is that the “sponsorship” was “Anonymous” and they are not really organized nor respected. Their message is anarchy not modifying school loans, credit card interest or mortgages. (BTW, I got “hacked” by a group claiming to be from “Anonymous” located in Bangladesh after watching the #occupywallstreet live stream from them.)
A lack of a consistent/coherent message does hurt it. What does wikileaks “get out of Iraq”, “I hate green peas” and “Free Bradley Manning” have to do with the message of corporate greed?

Michael Moore, aka “media whore,” is on “The Lastword” lauding the the lack of organization and the ‘spontaneity’ and no spokesperson. But that is exactly what it lacked. IMHO. Had Common Cause, StudentNation, UnCut and others been allowed to help, it may have received more coverage.

Even the coverage now is because of the “Pepper Spray Incident” not the message of Corporate Greed.
“If it bleeds it leads.”

This from “our” Sabreen via twitter:

@MMFlint – I guess Prez Obama should have brought in some pimply faced college kids to deal with Wall Street – right Michael Moore???

And this from one of our followers:

sweetbay sweetbay
@MMFlint uses GOP talking points that Goldman was biggest Obama contributor but Goldman CEO has lawyered up since DOJ investigations.

I might add that the DoJ, PBO’s DoJ has 48 known and active investigations ongoing with the Wall St. Crooks and Banksters.

» Posted By bito On September 28, 2011 @ 5:39 pm

Wow. Lawrence O’Donnell Comes Out Swinging Against “Unprovoked” Police Brutality at Occupy Wall Street

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

More>>> http://bit.ly/r7FjiB

Why did he or anyone else not cover the protests until this incident? “If it bleeds, it leads.” ?

» Posted By bito On September 28, 2011 @ 2:36 pm

Why America Fails: One Man’s Opinion

Em, to steal and paraphrase Chomsky: ‘ if you are depending on the media to get your message out, you’ve lost.”
There is nothing better than walking your neighborhood and knocking doors, “pressing the flesh” and talking to people. Nothing!
To talk to people and “turn” them is near exhilarating. We used to get a group together and make a day of it, knock doors all day and then dine and drink.
Oh, youth and good health!
This is not anything new and it needs to be done, Karl Rove on Fox even mentioned it (it’s not news) that “turning” 1 to 2% per precinct can change a statewide vote.
Think of that. Turn 10-20 votes or get them out to vote can work wonders.

» Posted By bito On October 1, 2011 @ 7:35 pm

and when we elect a democratic president, they elect a republican congress

There is no “we” and “they” there. It was too many people not voting during the midterms and working on GOTV. Too many times people don’t vote in “off-year” elections not realizing that bills come out of Congress not from the Oval Office. The “system” may have many problems but one thing any eligible voter can do is VOTE! (early and often.) The TPGOP voted in 2010, the Dems didn’t!
There may be many spokes broken in our wheel of government, but some can be fixed with the simple act of voting!

» Posted By bito On October 1, 2011 @ 5:08 pm

China also has very large portion of their society living in poverty, income inequality, pollution, workers rights and a strict authoritarian government.
One reason the growth of their GDP seems so high is because it has a so much capacity to grow.

The Chinese government is really good about putting a veneer of well being on an otherwise grim way of living.

‘sactly right.

» Posted By bito On October 1, 2011 @ 4:27 pm

Occupy Wall Street? Why?

Em, In addition to Kalima’s news I’ll cross post this here from TO/OT:

Community / Labor March to Wall Street
http://www.jobparty.us/community_labor_march_to_wall_street

» Posted By bito On October 4, 2011 @ 10:32 am

Emerald and Cyrano here is the link to “Occupy Together” http://www.occupytogether.org/ There is probably gathering within 25/30 miles to most people interested. The site has a ton of information and it’s being updated as best they can. Check out the posters/handbills! They now blocking the sun on one of my front windows 🙂

» Posted By bito On October 2, 2011 @ 10:55 pm

What the Media Won’t Tell You About “Class Warfare”

Ole Andy wasn’t exactly a prince of a fellow on his way up to becoming a “Captain of Industry.” He would build a swimming pool for his workers (to keep them occupied) rather than pay them livable wages, rent them company homes to keep them job scared, used child labor, forced working hours…….His philanthropy came after he made his millions and married a much younger woman who had a belief in social justice.
True his philanthropy was huge, legendary, and it would be a welcome change to see in this day and age but I don’t expect many of “The Captains having an epiphany soon.

» Posted By bito On October 2, 2011 @ 11:53 am

TAKE ACTION: Sign White House Petition to Fight Voter Suppression

“White House grapples with a flood of online petitions”

The true test of We the People, the Obama administration’s online petition site, won’t be how many petitions are launched through the Web page, but how well the White House is able to respond to them, experts told Nextgov this week.

If it looks as if federal officials are ignoring the site or only issuing pro forma responses, that could undermine the operation, they said, and make people feel more alienated from their government.

The White House initially promised to respond formally to any We the People petition that received more than 5,000 signatures, but after nearly three dozen petitions crossed that mark in the site’s first week, the administration raised the bar to 25,000 signatures within 30 days.

http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20111004_9006.php

» Posted By bito On October 5, 2011 @ 11:44 am

Oh the good old days of voting!

Rep. Steve King Daydreams About The Good Ol’ Days When Only Property Owners Voted

KING: As I roll this thing back and I think of American history, there was a time in American history when you had to be a male property owner in order to vote. The reason for that was, because they wanted the people who voted — that set the public policy, that decided on the taxes and the spending — to have some skin in the game.

[…]

Now I don’t think they’re paying taxes. But many of them are voting. And when they vote, they vote for more government benefits.

http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201110040015

» Posted By bito On October 5, 2011 @ 11:00 am

As a courtesy to a twitter follower of PPOV here is a petition for you to review.
Enforce all Labor Laws & Protect All Whistleblowers in Government & all other US Workplaces from Unlawful Retaliation!

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/enforce-all-labor-laws-protect-all-whistleblowers-government-all-other-us-workplaces-unlawful/lMc1DlHn?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl

To everyone that has signed our petition, Thank You, and to anyone that hasn’t, PLEASE DO!

We need to spread the word on our petition so if you can, Tweet it, post it on FaceBook and any other sites you can.

» Posted By bito On October 2, 2011 @ 9:10 am

Maine Elections Chief Uses GOP List To Intimidate Student Voters And Encourage Them To Re-Register In Another State

>The letter explained that Maine Secretary of State Charles Summers was writing because he “was presented with a list of 206 University of Maine students with out-of-state home addresses and asked to investigate allegations of election law violations.” That list was provided to him not by an uninterested citizen, but rather the Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster, who has accused these students of voter fraud.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/09/29/331788/maine-student-voter-intimidation/

» Posted By bito On September 30, 2011 @ 11:47 am

The short link(s) works for me and I have tweeted the petition probably close to 100+ times and others have retweeted it and signed.

» Posted By bito On September 30, 2011 @ 9:45 am

Diebold voting machines hacked with $10 in parts
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/diebold-voting-machines-hacked-with-10-in-parts/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMw2dn6K1oI&feature=player_embedded#!

Another reason to sign the petition!

» Posted By bito On September 27, 2011 @ 8:18 pm

In the words of Brads Blog, read this before it’s gone from the Fox site!!

Voter ID Laws Target Rarely Occurring Voter Fraud

Several states adopted new laws last year requiring that people show a photo ID when they come to vote even though the kind of election fraud that the laws are intended to stamp out is rare.

Even supporters of the new laws are hard pressed to come up with large numbers of cases in which someone tried to vote under a false identify.

“I’ve compared this to the snake oil salesman. You got a cold? I got snake oil. Your foot aches? I got snake oil,” said election law expert Justin Levitt, who wrote “The Truth About Voter Fraud” for The Brennan Center for Justice. “It doesn’t seem to matter what the problem is, (voter) ID is being sold as the solution to a whole bunch of things it can’t possibly solve.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/24/voter-id-laws-target-rarely-occurring-voter-fraud/#ixzz1Z7YtEMZF

I do see that it is an AP story but how, who allowed it to posted on Fox, I find amazing! Will this be discussed on Fux and Fiends in the morning? 😉

» Posted By bito On September 26, 2011 @ 8:50 pm

It is a bit tricky C’lady. They sent me an email checking to make sure it was a human/working email and I had to click the link in the email. Of course you are a known “trouble maker.” 😆

» Posted By bito On September 26, 2011 @ 4:07 pm

A little progress on the state front?

WI DA looking at voter bribery accusations against “pro-life” group: Subpoenas distributed “like candy.”

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/09/26/wi-da-looking-at-voter-bribery-accusations-against-pro-life-group-subpoenas-distributed-like-candy/

Those who signed up 15 “pro-life/pro-family voters” by July 5 would get a $25 gift or gas card as a reward. The person signing up the most people in each Senate district would win a $75 gift or gas card.

This is the kind of thing that needs to be done to get the attention of the Federal district attorney’s attention, that and the petition!

» Posted By bito On September 26, 2011 @ 12:26 pm

TAKE ACTION: Suggest and Support Petitions For The Obama Admin to Review

AdLib, I have no problem with the the petition’s wording and I agree with it. We crossed comments, I think. My point was while WI and other states are not within the spirit of the voting rights laws, they may be within the legality of the rulings after the decision in 2008 by the SCOTUS and it ties the DoJ’s hands somewhat.

I like the petition, have tweeted it and will tweet it daily. I want this to make it the the WH staff! I just find some stiff limits on the DoJ.

The RICO comment was a bit of a snark, but that would be so much fun and would not just include ALEC but the Kochs.

» Posted By bito On September 25, 2011 @ 8:40 pm

I put up the request as a courtesy, I wasn’t endorsing. AdLib, Congress already has term limits and they are enforced by what is called voting. I learned many years ago that lobbyists do not have term limits when I was a member of my county’s DEC and also did some un-paid lobbying for the Union. My mentor taught me to schmooze the staffers not the legislators, staffers never leave and have more power. . 😆

» Posted By bito On September 25, 2011 @ 7:48 pm

Just received a request from some one that retweeted the petition:

Bigmaneukno GI
@
@anitafrullani @PlanetPOV will you sign mine? wh.gov/4xV

» Posted By bito On September 25, 2011 @ 6:29 pm

funk, the state voting laws that have been passed the last couple of years has been really been ticking me off and like many I was yelling “Where is the DoJ?” With some investigation, I find that in most instances their hands are tied until a case enters the federal courts. The states need pre-approval is small

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Us_s5_cvr08.PNG/550px-Us_s5_cvr08.PNG[/img]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act

and from what I understand all other cases have to be referred to them and the Civil Rights Division http://www.justice.gov/crt/index.php by groups of citizens.

It is frustrating when the the average person can see the blatant reason behind the passage of these laws to suppress the vote of the voters with the least voice.
Voting laws have been under a state’s jurisdiction for many years.

» Posted By bito On September 25, 2011 @ 3:45 pm

True, funk, I just don’t find it good policy for the US, at all whether it’s neo-lib or neo-con nor is it good for the constitution when done by the executive alone.

» Posted By bito On September 25, 2011 @ 3:19 pm

I’m all for the voter suppression petition but with some reservations. I’m unclear on exactly what the DoJ can do under law. The wording in the post seems to fit

The Planet is urging the Department of Justice to investigate and where possible, take action…

There are many state laws that have been passed that, such as voter photo ID’s , that while not being in the spirit of democracy are “legal.”

“In April 2008, the Supreme Court upheld a photo-ID law in Indiana, even though state GOP officials couldn’t provide a single instance of a voter committing the type of fraud the new ID law was supposed to stop. Emboldened by the ruling, Republicans launched a nationwide effort to implement similar barriers to voting in dozens of states.”

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830?page=2

I do want to see this petition started and carefully worded because the DoJ hands are tied in many instances. Most states can change their voting laws and redistrict without any pre-clearance or review from the DoJ and it takes civil complaints from citizens/ACLU to challenge them to bring it to the attention to the DoJ before they can take any action.

Suggested words/wording, from the post “to investigate and where possible, take action” and “with the spirit of democracy/one person one vote.” I would also like some mention of “equitable polling places/registration” somehow included.

Where is our staff attorney when we need him? 😉

(Another source to take a look at: http://www.stealingdemocracy.com/ )

Maybe they DoJ can RICO Act ALEC for voter suppression. They are the main culprits behind all this.

» Posted By bito On September 25, 2011 @ 2:56 pm

See Kalima’s comment.

A promise by both countries to never have a fighting army, a signed promise by the U. S. to protect them in case of an attack.

I would love to see the DoD drastically reduced but to abrogate on a treaty would be despicable. Almost weekly Kalima posts a story on Japan/China-Japan/N.Korea skirmishes and Japan would be defenseless against them with out our treaty.

Edit: after looking at some of the petitions, there are some/many that would take some congressional action. That is a good thing to keep in mind in the wording of our petition and I think AdLib had that in mind on his post.

» Posted By bito On September 25, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

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