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The Occupy Wall Street Thread

Actually they did just that. Here it is KT, I think posted it yesterday.

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City
Posted on September 30, 2011 by NYCGA
This document was accepted by the NYC General Assembly on September 29, 2011

As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.

They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.

They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.

They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

To the people of the world,

We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

Join us and make your voices heard!

» Posted By SueInCa On October 6, 2011 @ 11:58 am

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.

What will those in the MSM do when they come for them? Not their corporations, THEM?

» Posted By SueInCa On October 6, 2011 @ 7:25 am

Kalima
Did you catch that last bit? Bloomie saying you are going to get a permit, blah blah blah. That permit is not going to be on Wall and Church streets. He is a lying bastid.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 6, 2011 @ 7:14 am

Thank you Kalima and done.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 6, 2011 @ 7:10 am

The Secret War Against The Counter Culture

Norris Poulson was a republican mayor and of course he was going to do whatever it took to get a stadium in LA. He certainly could not let SF beat him. But again he was a republican and a bigot.

“Poulson, for his part, challenged Bowron’s support for public housing, in particular a project in the area known as “Elysian Park Heights” (a site on which Dodger Stadium would one day be built). With the support of the group Citizens Against Socialist Housing (CASH) and drawing on the anti-communist atmosphere of the time, Poulson promised to end support for such “un-American” housing projects and to fire city employees who were communists or who refused to answer questions about their political activities.”

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 6:41 pm

What specific legal reasons are there to deny, except for marriage laws. I am not aware of many LAWS that take away the rights of minorities.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 6:13 pm

Well I knew Dodger Stadium was there.

But it is a little different than how you portray it………..Developers are hardly the government in fact they are most likely in the 1%.

Los Angeles-based author Mike Davis, in his seminal work on the city, City of Quartz, describes the process of gradually convincing Chavez Ravine homeowners to sell. With nearly all of the original Spanish-speaking homeowners initially unwilling to sell, developers resorted to offering immediate cash payments, distributed through their Spanish-speaking agents. Once the first sales had been completed, remaining homeowners were offered increasingly lesser amounts of money, to create a community panic of not receiving fair compensation, or of being left as one of the few holdouts. Many residents continued to hold out despite the pressure being placed upon them by developers, resulting in the Battle of Chavez Ravine, an unsuccessful ten-year struggle by residents of Chavez Ravine, to maintain control of their property. The controversy surrounding the construction of the Dodger Stadium provided the inspiration for singer Ry Cooder’s 2005 concept album, Chávez Ravine.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 5:50 pm

KT of course they do now. Because previously the agencies never shared information and it hurt each agency. If you want to know how it is to work a fraud case without help from other agencies, just go back to the late 70’s. When I got into fraud in 83, the idea of sharing info was still new. We had an association that we belonged to in order to share info across agencies and institutions. It was hard to prosecute a case because you could not get cooperation, that is why it changed. Prosecuting a good case was more important than any individual agency or institution’s need for secrecy.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 5:39 pm

Not true Adonai. Just because someone else goes against the law does not mean you did not have rights. THAT someone abused your rights. Your rights can be abused but they are still yours.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 5:31 pm

Looks like Che to me.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

Chavez Ravine? I must have missed something with that one. And no Guantanamo was not done in my name. That was Bush and his administration alone, I don’t own it I condemned it. They may be taken away for a TIME but if I survive, they will see me in court. If they were not rights, you would have no recourse in the judicial system.

Anyone can abuse your rights, but it is specifically those rights that give you recourse.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

So you are calling the Bill of Rights a set of suggestions? They are far more than that. For anyone who has been arrested, they are real(of course there are people who will get the shaft – my word against a cops word) Of course there is corruption going on in law enforcement but ultimately if your rights are violated, you have recourse. Lawsuits all over the country are won on the basis of the Bill of Rights. During the Bush administration alot of people were singled out on violations of the Patriot Act, but those who fought back won on their established rights under The Bill of Rights if their arrest/detainment violated those rights. Guantanamo was a whole different story but there is a reason it was set up in Cuba. For the Bush administration to side step the law, plain and simple.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 3:18 pm

KT
Part of the problem in the 50’s and 60’s was the Director of the FBI, I called him Jedger. Hoover was obsessed with the tactics you talk about to distraction. In the years since, the FBI has had to rebuild their reputation because it was so tainted by Jedger’s activities. I am not sure the current head of the FBI is willing to go back down that road. The CIA and NSA may be willing but the FBI takes pride in their service and if there are issues with Mueller, those issues are kept underground. You have far more to worry about with Homeland Security than you do the Justice Department, IMHO. In fact Mueller’s term is up this year and another Director will be nominated by Obama. That Director will have 10 years as well.

I worry way more about Homeland Sec than I do the Justice Dept. I worked with both the FBI and the Secret Service in my investigating days and spent some considerable time with different agents over the years. I would trust one of them before anyone in Homeland Security. That name alone gives me chills. Just the fact they were created by the last administration is enough to give anyone chills. Besides if this Occupy protest is infiltrated and claims are made about terrorism, people would really start to question the Tea Party even more than now. The injustice would hit many many people across this country and the 60’s might just look like a Tea Party in comparison to the outcry. At least I would hope that would be the case.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 3:10 pm

Hey I like the new avatar showing up in the side box for comments

» Posted By SueInCa On October 7, 2011 @ 2:44 pm

Obama Is Doomed Next Year… Or Is He?

KT
I know that is one of my favorite documentaries from Democracy Now. And my husband and I are great fans of George Carlin. Another one to watch is Will Ferrell: You’re Welcome America- A Final Night with George W Bush. I had just watched Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay(where they smoked weed with Bush) and this was the nest show, hilarious.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 5, 2011 @ 3:30 pm

Atdnext

thank you for this piece. What you have discussed here is precisely why I do not watch any more MSM. I get my news on the internet or on alternate stations like BBC and Al Jazeera English. Once in a great while I will watch Al Sharpton or others on MSNBC but very seldom. I don’t need my opinions shaped by their drivel. I read and judge for myself. I have a friend in NV who could use your website. I am going to recommend it to her.

If you get a chance, watch Orwell Rolls in His Grave, it will validate everything you think about the media.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1179175516550155628#

» Posted By SueInCa On October 5, 2011 @ 10:05 am

Political Animals – The Mascot Each GOP Candidate Should Have

Adlib
Those are perfect. I would go with the pig for Bible Spice, but the wild boar is perfect for Christie.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 3, 2011 @ 7:02 pm

CL
Oh how I would love to say Black Panther and really rile them up. Most of them would probably have the reaction that Forest Gump had, “what? let’s destroy his black panther party?” “So now he is bringing dangerous animals into the WH? I told you we could not trust him, that party cannot take place.”

» Posted By SueInCa On October 3, 2011 @ 6:31 pm

Kalima
But MAC lovers are said to be very loyal. I tried it once but could not see myself using it daily, but then again when I first tried windows I thought it was hard compared to what I was using previously……………DOS and typing in the commands. Can you imagine I once thought it easier to type a whole range of commands you had to remember rather than point and click?

» Posted By SueInCa On October 3, 2011 @ 6:15 pm

Adlib

If Christie or Palin enter the race, I cannot wait to see what animals they are. As far as Obama goes, I think I would make him the Panther. He comes at you and hits you before you even know he is there. He can move without a sound and take down his adversary while they are still thinking about what he said.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 3, 2011 @ 6:12 pm

The Debt Ceiling Battle: Obama Won It, Despite What You Heard

Murph
Good round up on these issues. Too bad most Americans are too lazy to even think on this level. I agreed with your premise way back when it was negotiated. Not that I necessarily trust Standard and Poors but they clearly laid the blame for the credit downgrade on the republican side of congress. Obama expects all Americans to be as smart as he is and they truly are not, he needs to work on providing clearer and more succinct explanations for his actions. If he did, he would be carrying way more of the public with him.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 3, 2011 @ 6:36 pm

Weekend Music Thread – The Boys Are Back in Town

Artie Shaw – Begin the Beguine

https://youtu.be/zNcPnEc99UE

» Posted By SueInCa On October 1, 2011 @ 8:15 pm

http://youtu.be/zNcPnEc99UE

Artie Shaw – Begin the Beguine

» Posted By SueInCa On October 1, 2011 @ 8:13 pm

Frank Sinatra – That’s Life

https://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

» Posted By SueInCa On October 1, 2011 @ 8:11 pm

Dean Martin aint that a kick in the head

https://youtu.be/4sTP994tOMk

» Posted By SueInCa On October 1, 2011 @ 8:10 pm

The Christmas Song – Nat King Cole

https://youtu.be/IirR7z_024Q

And I will be home for Christmas this year. No more driving for the holidays, yay.

» Posted By SueInCa On October 1, 2011 @ 8:08 pm

pete seeger which side are you on

https://youtu.be/5iAIM02kv0g

» Posted By SueInCa On October 1, 2011 @ 8:05 pm

LOL Kalima. We heard that song today and I told the hubby when I hear it I always want to go back to those days. I was carefree hanging out in Susanna Street Park, smoking doobies and baby sitting on Monday nights for a couple who went to see the AliBaba or some guru at UC Berkeley. They always had dope out on the coffee table for anyone to partake. Funny I never got hooked on any of it. I am still friends with most of the people who I hung out with way back then. I was 14 and now I am 58 so 44 years ago. Whew I am not that old lol

» Posted By SueInCa On October 1, 2011 @ 7:57 pm

Ywp that is another favorite. I saw War at the Concord Pavillion quite a few years ago. They were really good

» Posted By SueInCa On October 1, 2011 @ 7:53 pm

Richie Havens – Freedom Woodstock

https://youtu.be/mIuuzK4XyDA

Arlo Guthrie – Coming Into Los Angeles

https://youtu.be/1Dw10HAj5-s

» Posted By SueInCa On October 1, 2011 @ 7:51 pm

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