Displaying 0 To 0 Of 0 Comments Grifter, yes. Perfect descriptive. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 21, 2011 @ 8:25 am Yes, she is the ultimate political grifter. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 21, 2011 @ 8:23 am Sarah I Quit! Palin? Isn’t she the fascistic asshole who says that I am not a “Real American” because I live in LA or because I am a Democrat and a liberal? Yeah. Fuck her. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 21, 2011 @ 8:22 am Ah! Another fish in the boat! » Posted By KevenSeven On February 20, 2011 @ 3:27 pm Wow! Deriding people of faith? » Posted By KevenSeven On February 19, 2011 @ 8:34 pm Employment at Will…what does it mean? I worked for a while for a Republican (who I actually rather liked). He owned a company with about 30 employees, and liked to complain about the “risks” he was taking and how it justified his taking a substantive cut of the company’s income. Actually, he often had to do without a paycheck, to be honest. But I always thought in the back of my head about the “risk” I was taking working for him and getting older and less marketable as I did. And in the end he did lay me off with half a dozen others, without any warning or notice. Five weeks after I had finished the sale of my condo and purchased a house. I had doubled my housing costs, after years of working for this whinging twit, and got dumped by the side of the road. To be an employee without union protection is to be at risk. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 19, 2011 @ 8:45 am What? You trying to stroke my ego? » Posted By KevenSeven On February 16, 2011 @ 5:39 pm Bill Maher’s Big Lie Contribution? To be concerned about the transition of a Western culture into an Eastern culture is not in of itself bigoted. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 19, 2011 @ 8:28 pm “(kevenseven)hasn’t experienced any positives from (religion)” Uh, huh. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 17, 2011 @ 9:06 pm Science did not produce the attack on Hiroshima. Politics and war did so. If we had not had the technology to nuke Japan, we certainly would have continued to carpet bomb their cities, creating firestorms that killed as many in one attack. What is so horrifying about the atom bombs dropped on Japan is not that they killed so many in one attack. As many died in Dresden, and nearly as many died in several Japanese cities. What is so horrifying is that the damage was inflicted with a single plane and a single bomb. As a people we were perfectly prepared to lay waste to Japan’s cities. The American people were relieved to have had so potent a weapon. War inevitably escalates to barbarism. It is unavoidable. Which makes a good argument for resisting going to war, I’d say » Posted By KevenSeven On February 17, 2011 @ 5:14 pm Wow. Speaking of painting with a broad brush and simplifying and caricaturing….. Could you work any harder to depict us anti-theists in a bad light? » Posted By KevenSeven On February 17, 2011 @ 5:06 pm Well, I too resent having words put in my mouth, and I have had many inserted on this thread, so I can sympathize. So what religion do you adhere to? Or you don’t believe anything? You certainly are pretty invested for a guy who does not believe anything. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 17, 2011 @ 12:18 pm I really don’t think a president should have to be taller than his electoral opponent, but I dare say that over the last 70 years the winner of the election tends to be taller than the loser. I really think we should all have magic ponies that don’t need hay and don’t poop. Until our three preferences come to pass, perhaps you and I could focus on what actually is. Rather than what we would prefer would be? » Posted By KevenSeven On February 16, 2011 @ 7:56 pm That Obama is an atheist? Obviously I cannot “know” it. He never brings it up in our monthly lunches. I don’t “know” that you are not a cannibal, do I? I am of the OPINION that he is an atheist. There you have it. I hope that I may express an opinion without being excoriated for it. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 16, 2011 @ 7:51 pm What is absolutist about saying that I have been presented with no evidence of the existence of god? I’m not saying that it is impossible to find evidence of the existence of god, I’m just saying that thus far, I have not seen any such evidence. I see nothing fundamentalist or absolutist about that. Now I do think that I can characterize a profession of a knowledge of the mind and will of god as rather an absolutist position. I make no claim to know the mind or will of god, now do I? » Posted By KevenSeven On February 16, 2011 @ 2:15 pm Maher is less than perfect as a host and is blatantly tendentious. I concede that point. Gotta run to work. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 16, 2011 @ 8:18 am I think this would be a pretty good example: ADONAI says: “I don’t really care what you “think” atheists are. I’m giving you the textbook definition.” Well, actually, I’m pretty confident that my definition of atheism was the more correct one. And I am ready to back it up with citations. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 16, 2011 @ 8:15 am Excuse me? You are a self-proclaimed christian who does not believe in god? What does the bible provide humanity that thousands of philosophers over the millennia have not? Besides a fiction of a supervising being who is keeping tally of how many times you have whacked off and is going to present you with the bill after you croak? » Posted By KevenSeven On February 16, 2011 @ 8:06 am OK, sloppy of me. Christianity is emphatically orthopraxic, and we were discussing the idea that Obama could be a xian without taking it seriously. I’m sorry. But for me anyone who does not take their religion seriously is not of that religion. And one is not a xian if one is not a practicing xian. Which is one of the points that we atheists rather like to consider: America is an xian nation? Really? People who have not been in a church since their parents dragged them there are not xians on the strength of their parents dragging them there as children. Non-practicing Jews are still Jews, btw, because “Jew” means both or either a religion or a culture. A very ancient culture, based on some solid philosophical tenants that have been adopted in many other philosophies. So a Jew who has not seen the inside of a Temple since being bar mitzvahed is still a Jew, at least in a cultural sense. Most likely. (I suppose there are a few slobs who wear mullets and eat pork rinds while watching professional wrestling. They may have left both the religion and the culture.) » Posted By KevenSeven On February 16, 2011 @ 7:58 am Yes, you were presumptuous. You have never heard the “flying spaghetti monster” simile? Google it. It is an effort to illustrate the absurdity of Man’s efforts to imagine an omniscient being. Obviously god is not Charlston Heston floating in a cloud two miles up in the sky. But he has been so depicted on any number of occasions. So now that we have decided that the thousand previous images were utterly fanciful, we atheists have taken a humorous view of the matter. There is a flying spaghetti monster in the sky! I don’t think I have attempted to characterize your views or beliefs in this thread, but you clearly have repeatedly done so with mine. I think you should be able to make your point without doing that. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 16, 2011 @ 7:45 am Which “textbook” is that? From Wiki: “Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4][5] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.” » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 11:11 pm “(kevenseven)hasn’t experienced any positives from (religion)”? Says who? From where do you draw that conclusion? » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 11:09 pm Ah, did not see you there at the top of the page. Yes, I’d like to be able to express my opinions without being told directly that they are worthless or simplistic. I’d be ready to return the favor, if it is granted. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 8:25 pm I think it is you that is over-simplifying and caricaturing. I was not attempting to write a full essay on philosophy and psychology here. I did not say that the only reason that people cling to religion is their dread of death. I said that religion will be with us as long as Man fears death. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 8:08 pm OK, so some people described transcendent and numinous experiences (which atheists can experience, btw) and this proves the existence of a god, how? How is religion necessary at any point of this discussion? » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 7:48 pm I was paraphrasing Freud there. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 7:41 pm Well, I don’t know if you are not a brain-eating cyborg, either, now do I? But I am pretty sure that Obama is an Atheist. And I have no difficulty in so saying. But thank you for your valuation of my opinion. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 6:48 pm The bible is a string of narratives of a bunch of bronze aged peasants trying to make sense of bacteria and earthquakes, and this is some way to describe the universe? Which revolves around which? The Earth or the Sun? Fer crying out loud. Religion was an effort by ignorant backward people to explain the universe and man’s place in it. Science is an effort by informed people using reason and observation and method to explain the universe and man’s place in it. Religion was the first attempt at philosophy. Much better work has followed outside of religion. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 6:42 pm Oh, there are all sorts of reasons that people “need” to believe in the flying spaghetti monster in the sky. I just cannot credence any of them. » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 6:35 pm Very kind of you. I hope you enjoy it here. Do I know you by another moniker? » Posted By KevenSeven On February 15, 2011 @ 6:31 pmComments Posted By KevenSeven
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