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DNC Convention Thread – Sanity Strikes Back!

Seconded, glenn!

And by sanity than insanity.

And by an American than a Russian ally.

» Posted By AdLib On July 27, 2016 @ 10:13 pm

Bernie was looking genuinely touched by Obama’s recognition of him.

We won’t see the like of President Obama again!

» Posted By AdLib On July 27, 2016 @ 10:12 pm

So true! Obama rocked it, pundits talking about how it was one of his best speeches. Don’t know that I would say that but it was fantastic and had far more crushing of Trump than I would have predicted.

And I think it went a long way to getting voters behind Hillary to continue his agenda.

Wow…the Dems’ convention is a powerhouse and to any halfway objective viewer, the Chachi Loves Putin Repub Convention looks like such a sleazy, gutter-level sham.

» Posted By AdLib On July 27, 2016 @ 10:11 pm

Hey KT, I have seen some of those Busters being interviewed and find them typically, self-centered, self-righteous and self-destructive, willing to have Trump elected and the country and world seriously endangered because the biggest wrong is…waiting a few years to get some of the change they want?

At the same time, I do agree with Kalima’s point that just like all extremists, they don’t represent a whole class of people so I wouldn’t paint all or most younger Bernie supporters with a broad brush of disrespect and disdain.

This is a time when Dems need to unify and if younger voters, who are the real energy in the Dem Party this time around, feel that Hillary supporters are spiking the football in the end zone and doing a taunting victory dance, it could ironically lead to their estrangement and her defeat in the GE.

I’ve seen ignorant older Dems and brilliant younger Dems interviewed and vice-versa so there’s plenty of clever and stupid to go around.

Bernie did inspire more of the younger voters so of course, more younger voters (who may have committed to a Presidential campaign for the first time in their lives…and may be voting for the first time) may be discouraged by their candidate not winning in what has been confirmed as a slanted playing field run by the DNC.

But most younger voters aren’t Busters and even some of those declaring they’ll never vote for Hillary will come around if the majority of Dems supporting Hillary just give them time.

Hillary’s the nominee, nothing will change that and Trump is a frightening and horrible threat. It’s healthy for folks to vent their frustration over their candidate’s loss and best that they’re allowed to do so without being attacked, this way they can be relieved of that frustration and eventually make a less emotional and more sensible decision on casting their vote.

» Posted By AdLib On July 27, 2016 @ 6:50 pm

Okay, Donald Trump has today declared himself a traitor to the United States of America and aligned himself with Russia, supporting their attacking our nation.

I don’t expect any of his lemming supporters to do anything but again applaud whatever garbage spews out of his mouth but I am expecting that Hillary will get a big bounce out of the convention and most voters will not ever re-consider changing their vote from Hillary.

And more than ever, I can’t wait for the debates and for Hillary to rightly hammer him for betraying our country and taking the side of our nation’s adversary to attack us.

Trump is toast now, the ads about how unpatriotic and traitorous Trump is will run in a loop until election day in all those rural and blue collar areas he needs to win…where loving America and patriotism is primal.

» Posted By AdLib On July 27, 2016 @ 6:26 pm

If you see many of the Bernie or Bust delegates, many are around college age and suffer from the stubborn self-importance of youth that they view as “principle”.

These “principled” purists openly admit they would be fine with helping to elect Trump by voting 3rd party simply because their candidate wasn’t nominated.

They look like spoiled little kids who shove their birthday cake onto the floor because they wanted Pokemon on it, not Power Rangers!

Grow up Busters, throw a tantrum over not finding a gluten free cronut but when it comes to the future of this country, you work towards the best possible outcome with the available options…at least, that’s the way adults make decisions in life.

» Posted By AdLib On July 26, 2016 @ 10:56 am

Kalima, this is the kind of problem I have when there’s an act of terrorism and Republicans keep saying, “I know many Muslims have condemned it but the Muslim community needs to come out in a bigger way to condemn Islamic-inspired terrorism.”

It’s a bar that’s never high enough, no matter how much Muslims condemn terrorism, it’s never enough for some people.

For some Hillary supporters, it’s the same kind of hostility towards Bernie and his supporters. No concession, pledge or vow of loyalty from Bernie will ever be enough, it will always be lacking something and can’t be fully embraced.

It’s the irony of pleading for unity while backhandedly insulting the ones one seeks unity from, they slide into sabotaging unity because of resentments still harbored when simply accepting the hand of your opponent would seal the deal.

And the same goes for the Bernie or Bust crowd. They won’t accept all the concessions Hillary has made on platform and policies to them and Bernie, it’s never enough and will always be lacking.

I’d just say that if Dems want unity and want some of the major policies Bernie has supported to be the law of the land, they need to put aside all of the negative feelings they acquired towards each other during the primary and show the same respect towards the other candidate and supporters that they seek for themselves and the candidate they supported.

» Posted By AdLib On July 26, 2016 @ 10:48 am

Nirek, I completely understand how you feel. You know I’ve been a solid Sanders supporter throughout the primary.

I am looking at this through a broad lense though. Sanders supporters are nearly half the party and they’re not going anywhere, in fact, I think they will be a majority of the Dem party by the next Presidential election.

Hillary is not our first choice, there are issues of trust but Bernie voters need to remember that a President relies on the support of their base to lead successfully…let alone be elected.

Hillary does seem like a very practically minded person to me, she knows that she can’t be a successful President if she alienates half of her base by betraying her commitments to them.

For that reason and also adding on that in a Dem controlled Senate, Bernie and Elizabeth will be very powerful, I think Bernie supporters will have a very attentive President in the WH with Hillary there.

Not necessarily because she set out to be so but because of the Bernie Revolution, she has to be for her Presidency to work.

It’s a different situation than having a Bernie or Obama as aggressive and longtime committed representatives of Progressive values but the end result may be pretty much the same.

We can’t get caught up in the model of car that the Uber is that’s taking us to our destination, all that matters is that we get where we need to go. It will be a lasting impact of the Sanders campaign that Hillary drives the country in the directions that she has promised to do so.

So really, if Hillary wins the WH, Bernie wins too, both Hillary and Bernie supporters…and for that matter, the whole country, wins too.

» Posted By AdLib On July 26, 2016 @ 10:29 am

Fergie, we’re unified around here and I have no doubt that 99% of Bernie voters will vote for Hillary.

I would just suggest that in pursuit of unity, it may be more productive for Hillary supporters to welcome Bernie and his supporters over to supporting Hillary than to keep viewing the efforts they make in that direction to be insufficient.

Just as I think it’s counterproductive for Bernie or Bust supporters to insist that all the concessions to Bernie that Hillary has made on the Dem Platform and on her policies are insufficient, I think it’s counterproductive for Hillary supporters to claim that every show of commitment and loyalty Bernie and his supporters make towards Hillary is insufficient.

In the end, if folks want to, they can always find Hillary or Bernie lacking the sufficient words and deeds they require to be satisfied with them.

I’d suggest that all Dems take “yes” for an answer on the Hillary/Bernie issue and instead of investing our energies on scrutinizing the “yes”, accept the “yes”s from both of them and move forward together.

Can we do this?

Yes…we can!

» Posted By AdLib On July 26, 2016 @ 10:13 am

In case you missed it, here is Michelle Obama’s speech from tonight’s DNC Convention.

Be prepared to be blown away!

» Posted By AdLib On July 25, 2016 @ 11:49 pm

Perfect KT! BTW, I know I’m late for giving you props on posting the Jon Stewart monologue on Colbert but it was fantastic and very appreciated!

» Posted By AdLib On July 25, 2016 @ 11:39 pm

It really was so emotional and yet so uplifting.

I agree, I think all the speakers, from Bernie to Warren to Booker just hit it out of the park.

I know it may seem like my just cheering the home team but have seen on many media outlets how remarkable the night was (especially Michelle!).

Very proud to be supporting this party!

» Posted By AdLib On July 25, 2016 @ 11:37 pm

In Bernie We Trust.

Never had a doubt in my mind that he wouldn’t wholeheartedly endorse Hillary and stand up to the Bernie of Bust crowd.

Bernie despises what a Trump Presidency would be and has supported the Democratic Party and voted with them his whole career.

I know many were displeased that he didn’t endorse her earlier but as I mentioned then, if folks were patient, they wouldn’t be disappointed.

It’s a process, it took Hillary time to process losing in 2008 and endorse Obama, the same was true for Bernie and maybe a little more difficult since he was in front of a true populist movement.

As he said tonight with no ifs ands or buts, Hillary must be elected President and he will do everything in his power to make that happen.

The Dem Party is unifying now as I think was inevitable and we are going to win!

» Posted By AdLib On July 25, 2016 @ 10:14 pm

Just caught up on Michelle’s speech…wow!!! Just incredible!!! Really, spectacular!

» Posted By AdLib On July 25, 2016 @ 10:03 pm

Donald Trump’s Acceptance Speech at the RNC Tonight – The Sh*t Hits The Fans

PPO, because I’m as humble as Trump, I’ll mention an article I wrote way back in 2011 about the GOP qualifying under the clinical definition of what a sociopath is and I think it of course applies to Trump as well:

https://planetpov.com/2011/12/09/the-gop-and-the-clinical-definition-of-a-sociopath/

» Posted By AdLib On July 22, 2016 @ 10:50 am

And here’s exclusive video of the GOP being hit with that reality:

https://youtu.be/aopdD9Cu-So

» Posted By AdLib On July 22, 2016 @ 10:43 am

fjb, very accurate. They say there’s nothing as dangerous as a wounded animal and that’s what the GOP and white racist voters have deteriorated into.

They are a wounded and bleeding beast that is dying and their angry howl is named Donald J. Trump. There is no escape for them, white supremacy is dying no matter how angry it makes them and they are too blinded by their hatred and desperation to accept that.

Too bad, the end is coming for them anyway and it will be accelerated by Trump’s decisive defeat.

» Posted By AdLib On July 22, 2016 @ 10:33 am

KT, the contrast will be enormous. The Dems will promote a positive vision and way forward, discuss all the good things and progress that has happened under Obama and acknowledge the problems in our society and economy that need to be fixed by giving specific solutions.

It will be an election of hatred vs. sanity and fortunately, there aren’t enough hateful white people to outweigh the rest of sane voters in America.

» Posted By AdLib On July 22, 2016 @ 10:27 am

You left out, “Believe me!”

» Posted By AdLib On July 22, 2016 @ 10:24 am

Fjb, don’t forget, he’ll also murder the families of terrorists including babies, toddlers, preteens, teens and pregnant women.

Oh, and did I mention that he’s pro-life?

» Posted By AdLib On July 22, 2016 @ 10:22 am

FWIW, the initial reviews of Trump’s speech from non-Republican sources is that it was a very dark and angry speech, very long and tiring (many of the delegates sat down partway through it) and not expected to be well received by any but the Repub faithful.

I don’t expect Trump will get much of a bump after the convention and Hillary is positioned to get a big bump by being positive in comparison to this hatefest.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 9:51 pm

Just joking about his excuse for copying Mein Kampf.

But I’m sure he’ll take full credit for the speech since his base excitedly made nooses as they listened.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 9:21 pm

Yes and his salute with an outstretched arm was returned by all those in the audience.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 9:15 pm

You can’t spell “Trump” without “rump”.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 9:11 pm

Kalima, sometimes you need a representative of a hateful sub-group to come out in the open and get beaten down to supress the whole group.

Trump will go down big time and his fellow haters will go down with him, losing their hold on the GOP too.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 9:09 pm

Great point, PPO. But that’s an inconvenient truth for a xenophobe like Trump.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 9:06 pm

Fear and hate and lies, the Trump cocktail.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 9:03 pm

Trump has his ties made in China! And all kinds of products he’s involved in. He’s his own enemy, not surprising.

And he thinks people are paid too much who make minimum wage. His plan is to slash the income of Americans to compete with the 3rd World.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 9:02 pm

PPO, I do think that in contrast to this nightmare of a fascist convention, the Dem Convention will look like an oasis for the sane.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 9:00 pm

It was a bit of a tip off when he started goosestepping around the stage.

» Posted By AdLib On July 21, 2016 @ 8:58 pm

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