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Weekend Music Thread – Movin’ On

Just heard this song on the radio and had to add it:

» Posted By AdLib On January 7, 2017 @ 10:39 am

The Trump Survival Guide – Tips for Surviving the Next Two Years

Kalima, now that I got it out of my system, I would actually wonder if this does not affirm that Trump voters voted only to express anger (like Brexit voters) and not because they supported anything he BS’ed about.

And perhaps many were voting against the deaf establishment that Hillary represented.

What this poll does represent though is that Dems should comeback with landslide victories in 2018 and 2020…if they present a populist/anti-plutocratic platform.

Trump and the GOP would seem to be far less powerful than they seem. Public outcry will be very powerful and influential, we can’t voluntarily disarm ourselves through defeatism or cynicism. Activism will make a huge difference when the majority is opposed to those in power.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2017 @ 9:58 pm

Kalima, so to put it simply, “Trump voters are morons”?

They want Dems, who have no majority and don’t control the WH to keep a check on the lunatic they voted into the highest office in the world?

Huh?

They voted Trump in but oppose what he would do?

I know the majority of American voters voted against Trump and oppose him so the majority in this country is reasoned and sane.

But this minority who voted for Trump? They make a great argument against democracy and for keeping the ACA and the mental health coverage it offers.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2017 @ 9:06 pm

Funk, I’ve mentioned before that this period between the election and the inauguration is like purgatory for a majority of Americans. They’re upset and depressed and don’t have Trump’s actions yet to bring them together in a purposeful way.

Hate to say it but I think we have to wait until Trump starts making actual decisions that undermine the country and the people, then I think people will be driven to defiance and activism and the anti-Trump/anti-GOP majority in this country will become more unified and energized.

What many people understandably overlook is that when the public turns against a President and a party, they lose the resolve to continue down the same path. Your wife’s concerns are very legit but I’d just point to the anti-ethics committee reversal in The House to illustrate how popular opinion can indeed derail Repubs and Trump.

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2017 @ 8:52 pm

My pleasure, Funk!

» Posted By AdLib On January 4, 2017 @ 8:43 pm

Funk, such clear headed and reasoned advice, just what’s needed right now.

The MSM has successfully whipped up hysteria around Trump to cash in and as a consequence, help elect him. Best to do as as the Brits coined, “Keep Calm and Carry On.”

If we react to every little utterance of Trump’s, we participate in and become part of the problem. Those who wish to control the many need disruption and distraction.

We should ignore the BS he spews (except the lies about vital matters) and react with purpose and unity against the actions he takes against the American people.

History shows that the party in power is most likely to lose the midterms as a normal course of events. With all the damage to our society and democracy that Trump has vowed and Repubs in Congress promise, a focused and unified response to Trump and Repubs will help to defeat them in 2018 and 2020.

It seems like the majority of Americans have been going through the various stages of grief and hopefully are working through it for the most part. With cool-headed thinking as you share in your post, we can respond to the next 2-4 years with purpose and success.

» Posted By AdLib On January 3, 2017 @ 10:59 pm

Weekend Music Thread – Better Things

Nice picks, Kalima!

May I offer in response…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhcM_hx0zxw

» Posted By AdLib On December 31, 2016 @ 7:27 pm

Disney to Change Endings of Animated Films to Appeal to Trump Voters

Kes, if only Jack Kervorkian was still around, he’d get my vote!

» Posted By AdLib On December 22, 2016 @ 3:58 pm

gyp46, thanks! For the next 4 years, every day is Fodder’s Day!

» Posted By AdLib On December 22, 2016 @ 3:57 pm

Nirek, that’s why I think it’s not going to take long at all for an even bigger majority to turn on the Repubs and Trump, especially now that they can’t just blame Dems for everything.

Their greed and selfishness will destroy them in the end.

» Posted By AdLib On December 21, 2016 @ 7:19 pm

gyp46, once I witnessed my parodies becoming premature news, I realized we’ve reached an era where the line between satire and reality has been erased.

The challenge now as I see it is to see how many ridiculous parodies I can come up with that come true. With the GOP and Trump as deranged as they are, I’m getting a pretty good batting average.

» Posted By AdLib On December 21, 2016 @ 7:16 pm

Nirek, no rational person could disagree with you on that. It will be 4 years of a president who reflects all the worst attributes of reality show tv and we’ll be force to watch it. But…we can also participate as his adversary and take action to humiliate and interfere with his ambitions. And we will.

I know Michael Moore floated that Trump might quit part way through but I don’t think that will end up happening. He’ll just disengage to the level that suits him and expect his minions to pick up the slack for him, as has happened his whole life. He has no conscience about how he would harm the office of President or the country, he just wants all the perqs without having to do the work.

I’d go even farther to say that much of the GOP is defined as traitorous, embracing Putin’s manipulation of our elections simply because it benefited them. And McConnell refusing to investigate it (yet Benghazi and email servers were threats to our nation). They are traitors too. It’s pretty disgusting.

» Posted By AdLib On December 21, 2016 @ 9:09 am

Kes, that thought keeps coming to me from time to time, Idiocracy has become a documentary.

Though to be honest, less than half the country falls into that category but thanks to voter apathy among the majority, they won the next four years of an Idiocratic government.

Hail to the Chief Idiot!

» Posted By AdLib On December 21, 2016 @ 9:01 am

Cheers Kes!

I did add in the 101 Dalmatians redo that Cruella was appointed as Secretary of the Interior which happens to oversee the US Dept. of Fish and Wildlife. Would Dalmatians be considered “wildlife”?

I’ve already overused the comparison about Republicans and Bizarro Superman that it seems redundant to apply to Trump’s cabinet picks but it sure fits. Each one seems directly the opposite of the type of person who should run that department.

When parody becomes reality, we’re in for a rough ride for four years!

» Posted By AdLib On December 20, 2016 @ 9:10 pm

Better Understanding Trump Voters By Getting into Car Accidents With Them

Kes, I think the root of all this anger in society stems from the dissatisfaction and pressure most Americans feel in their lives…primarily due to the squeeze they’re in because of the economic inequity the wealthy have instituted.

Why are so many people driving around, when you’re often alone and have time to think about things in your life…angry?

If you asked most people, I don’t think they’d attribute it to their personal finances, they probably wouldn’t be able to put their finger on it. But it makes sense in an America where more college graduates are living with their parents and can’t find good paying jobs, those parents may need to be taking care of their elderly parents who need financial and medical assistance, and meanwhile, those parents’ paychecks have hardly increased (if they haven’t lost their jobs) in 20 years while inflation has decreased the value of that pay.

The standard of living is continuing to decline in America while the wealthy are hording disgusting amounts of money. The atmosphere on the streets of America is one of stress and anxiety, one can understand the spill over of that when people are driving as well as in many other areas.

The excellent Guardian article you linked to addresses this and other factors that may be contributing to this widespread anger. I do think that this is at the core of it though, the growth of nationalism and bigotry, civil disintegration and intolerance of facts and opinions that dispute some people’s beliefs.

I don’t think this changes until the anger is rightly turned against the plutocrat class and governments and societies are refocused on serving the needs and futures of the majority.

As for the video of the Trump supporter agreeing with Bernie, what I saw was an ignorant person trying to whine about her own victimhood but with no real knowledge, insights or facts to support what she claimed (as is usual for Trump supporters). So when Bernie validated her victimhood (along with that of the majority) by the wealthy, she seemed off balance but ready to grab onto that.

Trumpsters like her are clearly upset and feel like victims but have no understanding of what has caused this. So when Trump pandered to them and confidently told them all the races and nationalities that were to blame, they grabbed onto that and him.

When they eventually realize that Trump lied to them, that just saying “Believe me!” after claiming only he can magically make their lives better in every way, is only a con, this woman and many Trump voters like her will turn some of that anger towards him.

» Posted By AdLib On December 15, 2016 @ 1:28 pm

Kalima, it’s not being vindictive, it’s just accepting what has to happen between now and 2020. Anyone with any sense knows Trump has lied constantly to the country and will of course continue to do so.

Unless one believes all of Trump’s obvious BS, then it is inevitable that bad economic and social times are coming, especially for the rubes who voted for him.

Reality dictates that he has no course but to fail them and they have no choice but to be crushed by his sociopathic decisions. So why pretend they’re not going to suffer, right?

On jobs, the economy, health care, etc., they will be the ones who suffer most. And they do deserve it but the majority of Americans who opposed Trump do not.

It’s not satisfaction that I’ll get from watching Trump voters suffer, it is confidence that they will be on the path to breaking the cult-like mindset of theirs and finally start questioning and turning on the con man who they so anxiously and strongly embraced.

» Posted By AdLib On December 14, 2016 @ 7:10 pm

Same here, gyp46, great conversation!

I’m with you, I am pretty floored by the degree of ignorance that’s out there among the public. It seems virtually celebrated, so many seem to bask in their ignorance.

It’s something we have to come to grips with in this country. A big segment of Americans/voters are confident in their ignorance and are oblivious to how it makes them tools for the far smarter wealthy interests that exploit it.

The ignorant white conservative voter is on its way to extinction but as this election proved, they’re still populous enough to win a national election.

They will be an even smaller demographic by 2020 which can only help in defeating Trump.

» Posted By AdLib On December 14, 2016 @ 6:40 pm

Kalima, as long as there’s nothing else we can do about it, why not be anxious to see Trump damage the lives of his base? It’s inevitable, his base is so brainwashed they have no compass anymore on truth or propaganda, until they are suffering badly, they won’t have anything to shake them out of their cult mentality.

What else can I do but look forward to Trump stomping on the base that elected him (and they will get the worst of it)? The sooner those suckers realize they’ve been had, the sooner the landslide against him will be assured.

The global instability does continue and it is perverse that it seems mostly the product of plutocracy enveloping the world and global economies and the response isn’t to turn on the plutocracy but to turn on the remaining portions of their democracies. It’s like a rat keeps sneaking in and eating most of the food that a poor family has and instead of trying to catch and exterminate the rat, they just fight over what little food is left.

Eventually, there will need to be an uprising against the wealthy who are keeping 99% of the world down, this is a side effect and this reaction of nationalism to protect what the plutocracy hasn’t taken away yet is so short sighted and self-destructive.

This is what they want, populations divided in each country so they can’t stand united against their true enemies. One can only hope that this small minded reaction evolves when the right kind of populist comes along and re-directs the anger where it belongs.

» Posted By AdLib On December 14, 2016 @ 2:10 pm

gyp46, I wouldn’t say that it will be quick or easy too break through the tightly locked minds of these Know Nothings. Just that erosion is a fact of nature, it may take a while but eventually, as Trump’s promises and assurances dissolve away, some will realize that they were conned.

As you say though, some will stay locked in a bunker of denial and insist that Trump is Jesus no matter what happens.

The good thing is that Dems don’t need the hardcore Trump supporters to switch to them, just the wrongheaded, emotional indies and Dems who aren’t as vested in Trump being omnipotent.

Retired military defending Russia and attacking America’s intelligence forces? If they’re retired, they lived through the Cold War and have seen Putin’s aggression. How desperate are these core Trump supporters to embrace even tyranny to justify their support of Trump?

I agree, those types aren’t going to be as likely to wise up but thankfully, we don’t need them too defeat Trump in 2020.

» Posted By AdLib On December 14, 2016 @ 1:58 pm

Hey Kalima, it’s always happened in the past. Eventually, the rubes who vote against for a Repub who cons them finally realize they’ve been lied to. They will turn on the one that they feel betrayed them but because they’re not so bright, they will just look for a new Republican con man to tell them the same lies that they want to believe.

One would wish they’d finally recognize that the Repubs are only about lying to them to get their votes but you can’t teach a dog that votes against its own interests, new tricks.

Thanks for the articles. I don’t think it comes as any surprise that as he has always done, once he is done with what he can get out of someone, he tosses them aside to get what he can out of someone else.

Trump supporters will look like the most foolish and ignorant voters in American history as he has already turned his back on them and filled the swamp he claimed he would drain with more swamp creatures than we’ve ever seen. And I don’t think they’ll like being played as such utter fools.

It will take time, they aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed, but eventually they will see that their lives have only gotten worse and no amount of Trump propaganda will be able to convince them all is well when they can’t afford healthcare when they’re sick, food when they’re hungry or lose their house to foreclosure.

The end of Trump love is on the way…once they realize they haven’t been loved by him, just groped.

» Posted By AdLib On December 14, 2016 @ 1:15 pm

gyp46, I can’t blame you for your skepticism. I do think that they will continue in their denialism over Trump’s conning them for quite a while but I’m basing my predictions on their past behavior.

When they were the core of the Tea Party, they held up people like Paul Ryan as who they’re behind but as the years passed, they turned on him and others because they didn’t deliver on all the BS they promised their voters.

That was the whole thing behind their voting for Trump, they turned on the rest of the GOP for not delivering what they promised and wanted an outsider who “says what he thinks” to “shake things up”.

When they discover it was all a sham as has been pulled on them by Repubs time and time again? I think they’ll react as they have in the past, turning on Trump and turning to the next phony that tells them what they want to hear.

They’re not that quick, being saps who are fooled the same way again and again, but after awhile, they finally catch on.

» Posted By AdLib On December 14, 2016 @ 1:04 pm

Thanks Sue and great to see you!

Unfortunately, here in LA, I find the blinker thing happen often here too, having a blinker on can make many drivers intentionally speed up and prevent a car from changing lanes. However, in an urgent situation like I described or if your car’s running out of gas on the freeway, etc., you really need to hope the blinker and the consideration of fellow drivers will work.

I am with you on being very unhappy about the DNC and the incompetent way they’ve run elections for the party. Pres. Obama’s wins stemmed from him and his brilliance as a campaigner. Nearly everything the DNC has touched in the last 8 years, they have lost. They are an establishment elitist group in a bubble, more about retaining and enhancing their own personal power (tilting the primary to electing Hillary because she was one of them, they knew that if she was elected, they would get cabinet positions and other valuable appointments…which wouldn’t have happened if one of their own didn’t win the nomination). There is no vision, passion or even an intelligent game plan in evidence at the DNC over 4 elections in which Dems lost ground every time. They need to go and someone like Keith Ellison is needed to bring the vision and enthusiasm that’s needed. Tim Kaine then Debbie Wasserman Schultz, two conservative, corporate Dem hacks, only succeeded in gutting the Dem base and losing in nearly all elections under them (except Pres. Obama’s which wasn’t thanks to them). We’ve seen what failures the DLC types in the party have been, definitely time to turn the page on them if we want to win elections we should win.

I have to disagree though about the permanency of Republicans in national office. It is unfortunately more typical that the party in power is less motivated to come out for mid term elections but it’s not a Dem thing. Remember that Dems came out big and took back the Senate in 2006 when Repubs were in power. The last two midterms were while Obama was President and fitting the pattern, Repubs came out in bigger numbers while Dems had low turnout.

That pattern is generally consistent throughout American history and makes sense. Those who feel that all is fine with the leadership of the country would naturally be less motivated to turn out and vote than those who are very upset about who is leading their country and desperately want a change. Though Dems will be defending many more Senate seats in 2018, I expect that Dem turnout will be very energized and after Trump’s inevitable failures and oppression over 2 years, I imagine that the motivation to vote Repub will decline. And in 4 years, after the proof is in the pudding over all of Trump’s con jobs on his voters, many will be less motivated at least and many Dems who voted for Trump will have reason to swing back to vote Dem (as long as the Dem candidate is an appealing one).

You know the old saying, “It’s always darkest before the dawn.” We’re in for very dark times with Trump but the pendulum always swings away from extremes, it’s happened without exception in the country’s history and it will happen again because that is the way of human nature.

Trump received less votes than Mitt Romney, Hillary received less votes than Obama. Both were heavily disliked and distrusted candidates. The advantage for Dems is that in 2020, Repubs are stuck with their widely disliked/distrusted candidate as the face of their party (who will only become more disliked/distrusted as time goes by). If Dems field a strong candidate that is generally viewed positively, he/she will win.

When you boil it all down, Trump was a horribly flawed candidate who lost the popular vote and squeaked by with an electoral win. He will only be worse in 2020 (and will no longer be the outsider who can campaign on lies alone, he’ll have an ugly record tied to him) so getting the DNC cleaned up is a priority. It needs to change so it isn’t just a tool of conservative, establishment Dems, so it functions as it’s supposed to in fielding competitive candidates around the country and supports Dem voters to choose their own candidates in primaries (instead of pre-selecting the nominee before the primary even begins and shaping the primary to protect that choice). That’s how you end up with a candidate that generates enthusiasm, letting voters decide who they support rather than offering a fait accompli and telling them, “Trust us, this candidate is best for you.”

Trump’s win has shaken the faith of many in our system and in the sanity of a swath of voters. It’s hard to be objective when you’re in the middle of a nightmare like this but it’s important to remember that this is pretty much the same voter base that elected Obama twice and gave both houses to the Dems. In fact, it’s less white and conservative than in those previous elections and will be less so in 2020.

The FBI and Russia were in cahoots with Trump and the GOP to barely win this election. Even a similar push by such a sick collaboration won’t be enough to change the results of an election with a slightly bigger margin.

I’m confident that Trump goes down “bigly” in 2020 as long as Dems get their house in order and keep the Dem Establishment’s meddling hands out of the primary process, allowing all candidates a level playing field so the base can fairly choose who they enthusiastically want to lead their party and the country.

The bad thing is that we have to wait 4 years to get rid of Trump. The good news is that due to our usually-annoying marathon election system, it’ll only be 2 years or so until the Dem primary for 2020 unofficially starts (right after the midterms). We’ll have candidates rising up for us to get behind and focus our energies on and as the beginning of the end for Trump, it will be very energizing.

» Posted By AdLib On December 14, 2016 @ 12:55 pm

gyp46, that is the real bait and switch going on, primarily being done by Trump and Repubs but Dems don’t have clean hands on this completely either.

Training for the new tech economy is critical to helping those workers who used to make a good living from manufacturing jobs. Dems haven’t made that a top focus and Repubs lie like psychotics to those people, promising that if the wealthy get wealthier, all those jobs will suddenly reappear.

And once Trump and the Repubs hand the wealthy huge tax cuts and those jobs don’t reappear? Will those people just forget about what they were promised? I don’t think so, they will turn angrily on Trump and Repubs.

“Common courtesy” is basically a result of respect for other people. Trump’s attack on the concept of politically correct was a liberation for some of his voters from the concept of mutual respect. All those angry people received permission to act as if only they deserved respect so of course their bigotry and hatred towards others was unleashed.

Common courtesy and mutual respect are cornerstones of a healthy society. The destruction that Trump has promoted of this social contract endangers us and the future of our society. The only consolation is that what goes around, comes around. When the people Trump’s lying to and treating like moronic rubes finally catch on to how he’s been using them, that same attitude spurning common courtesy will drive them to attack him mercilessly as well.

» Posted By AdLib On December 14, 2016 @ 11:38 am

Weekend Music Thread – And Now For Something Completely Different

So many great picks, KT!

Here’s Louis CK…

» Posted By AdLib On December 10, 2016 @ 5:52 pm

So KT, maybe this is relevant again too???

» Posted By AdLib On December 10, 2016 @ 5:28 pm

Some Tough Love for The Democratic Party – Time For a Change

gyp46, your point is well taken. Pelosi may be well versed in the politics of maneuvering in The House but against a populist con man like Trump, a powerful and passionate voice must respond representing Dems or to the majority of Americans, his BS stands unchallenged. This is not who Pelosi is today, she may have been more like that in the past but her being leader is tamping down enthusiasm in confronting Trump.

She sure seems like a weakened Dem desperately holding onto power. We need strength and energy leading the party, it will have to come from somewhere else (maybe Keith Ellison if he wins the chair oof the DNC?).

» Posted By AdLib On December 10, 2016 @ 5:08 pm

Thanks gyp46!

Agreed, it’s not even the age of Dem leaders that is the ultimate issue for me, it’s that they are so entrenched in being in power for the Dem Party and have been there for so long, their expiration date as inspirational leaders has passed.

For example, Elizabeth Warren is 67 and I think if she was Minority Leader in The Senate, Dems would be energized. Who will Chuck Schumer be able to rally other than Wall Street contributors?

And of course, Bernie Sanders is 75 and look at all the enthusiasm he whipped up.

The problem with being in a leadership role for so long is that they become too preoccupied with remaining leaders and not making things happen.

Pelosi should have stepped aside for the good of the party but selfless politicians is an oxymoron.

» Posted By AdLib On December 7, 2016 @ 4:10 pm

Caveman Lifestyle Catches Fire With Trump Supporters

Hi Blondannas!

I would propose that this is just reflective oof Trump’s narcissism and greed. He wants to have it all, conflicts of interest and time mean nothing to him as long as he can grab as much public attention and money as possible.

And doesn’t it show how corrupt the GOP and their majorities in Congress are, allowing him to have so many conflicts of interest that taint our presidency, government and democracy…as long as Republicans can have power.

Repubs have and will continue to prove that they have no principles (consider how many Benghazi and email inquiries they had on someone who had already left government at the time and yet zero interest in Trump’s true conflicts), they only show a commitment to grabbing as much power as they can, party before America.

I doubt Trump will do anything that makes him look inadequate to be President, I know Michael Moore is suggesting Trump might quit the presidency but I think this is just wishful thinking. Who would want to be on Mount Rushmore or the $20 bill more than Trump?

I do think that after 4 years, he will be the most infamous President in our history and go down to a landslide defeat. There will be hard times between now and then but considering he’s failed at almost every venture he’s tried (but in America, the wealthy get the laws passed that protect their wealth…like being able to claim $1 billion in losses when they haven’t lost that amount and save hundreds of millions in taxes). The presidency will be no different, he will bankrupt his support before long. It’s just a matter of time but we do need to do our part and stand up against him and the unprincipled Repubs all along the way.

» Posted By AdLib On December 10, 2016 @ 5:21 pm

Kes, it is something that we weren’t hearing, at least right after the election. Since then, I’ve not spent as much time following MSM sources as a bit of a protest of their promotion of Trump for ratings so I don’t know if it’s being said much now.

I think it is irresponsible for the MSM and some Dems to insist that we need to be sympathetic now to Trump voters to curry favor with them. Because it does normalize hatred, racism and ignorance. Nope, we don’t need to sing Kumbaya with the Alt Right. We don’t need to make bigoted raging at coffee shops and craft stores something that’s “just different”.

It’s deranged, it was before and it is now. The degree of derangement in many Trump voters varies, from slight, the ones who walk around as dupes thinking Trump’s BS utopia is going to be real, to extreme as seen in those videos.

The majority of America should continue to conduct a rational and reasonable society despite the fact that there are those among us who have been radicalized by Trump. Decent society should not be just an option, it should be required of those who want respect.

Yes, it has been my theory that the only way to breakthrough the self-centered or apathetic ignorance of many of the less educated voters is that they have to suffer terribly first. They don’t make decisions based on reason and wisdom, they make decisions based on their emotions. Hence, many voted for Trump because he struck a primal emotional chord in them.

I think that Trump will do profound damage to our economy, beginning on day one when he will apparently try to sign a bill killing Obamacare. The insurance market and hospitals will be turned upside down as will the economy since health care represents such a huge portion of it.

As for OH, that is very interesting how Kasich is trying to prepare the people for economic turmoil. I think you’re right, this may be just the prelude to economic trouble spreading across the country. Ironically, it would seem that red states will be hit the hardest and Trump voters will suffer the most. Red states typically take more in tax dollars than they give, meanwhile blue states will do better because many give more in taxes than they receive.

We have gone for a long unbroken period of gradual economic recovery under Obama but that can’t last forever and signs sure point to bad economic times ahead.

Repubs will get their tax cuts through, kill at least sections of Obamacare and get into trade battles with other countries. That means billions in tax money will be taken away from states and social welfare programs which can only depress the economy. And trade conflicts will pump up inflation. And coal and manufacturing jobs ain’t coming back, they will keep leaving.

Many Trump voters will be trapped in a vise between skyrocketing health care costs they can’t afford, fewer jobs for the uneducated and rising costs for gas, groceries and other necessities. They will be crushed by the con man they so foolishly believed in and only then, when they are suffering intensely, will they push back.

Right now, they’re on the verge of having nervous breakdowns, they don’t know whether to howl in delight or scream at all the “others” that they feel threatened by.

The worst will have to come to them to open their eyes to their ignorance. Some children learn the easy way, they understand what causes them to get in trouble and simply use reason to avoid repeating mistakes. Other children need to learn the hard way, they keep doing the wrong thing and need to be punished and become very upset at losing things they want before they finally catch on.

The uneducated never seem to learn the easy way. They seem to need extreme situations to correct their views on what is truly bad and what is truly good. It becomes clearer why Repubs undermine funding for public education when this is considered, they know from their own studies that the less educated are more easily manipulated against their own interests.

But the mitigating factor is suffering. One can’t be propagandized out of feeling pain. When you’re being kicked out of your apartment because you can’t pay the rent, no amount of Trump’s boasts about how well everyone is doing under him will convince you of that.

You know how in the old movies and cartoons, they would say, “Pinch me, I must be dreaming!”? Well, I think that Trump voters will snap out of their delusions once they’re put in a tight and painful pinch and I can’t see any way right now that they will be spared from that.

We’ll all be hurt too to one degree or another but the worst suffering sure looks to be aimed right at the ignorant Trump voters who helped elect a narcissist sociopath to “shake things up”.

He will do that, he’ll shake up their lives like a monstrous earthquake, causing them terrible times. Then, hopefully, we can all start back up the path together on repairing all the damage and having a government and society that works towards the best interests of the people.

» Posted By AdLib On December 7, 2016 @ 11:29 pm

Thanks Kes!

I know Groucho said that “club” joke, don’t know if it goes back to Twain but it’s a good one!

Those who are saying that we need to understand the Trump voters seem to me to be the ones trying to normalize this psychological break in many Americans. No, I am not like those who voted for Trump, we don’t think alike, they show no interest or aptitude in trying to understand the majority of the country that is aghast at Trump winning so I have no interest in normalizing the thought process of those who voted a destructive con man into the presidency. We have nothing intellectually in common…mainly because no intellect was used in choosing to vote for Trump.

In time, these emotional voters will instead come to understand the majority of Americans and see that they were played as rubes. They’re the ones who need to return to the fold of rational human beings who have a conscience and at least a crumb of wisdom to not make emotional, self-destructive choices.

Indeed, in a syndrome that might compare to mass hysteria, Trump has inspired these social misfits, mentally unstable people spouting hatred wildly (and sometimes dangerously as with the pizza place) and they think what they’re doing is okay. Not attacking people or vomiting hatred indiscriminately is being “politically correct”.

I think we’ll see more of this once Trump is confronted by many Americans once he takes office, his supporters may feel authorized by him to confront any who stand up against him. In the end, all of them will lose but in the short term, it sure looks to get ugly.

I’d guess that The Hamsters will learn as slowly as their namesakes but after being shocked every time they try to find health insurance or keep up with rocketing inflation, I think they’ll stop running on their wheels and start realizing that they’re being treated like dumb animals.

» Posted By AdLib On December 7, 2016 @ 4:39 pm

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