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Time Out for O/T – Vol. 17

I agree completely!!

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 6, 2011 @ 8:39 am

ADONAI,

We’ll have to agree to disagree, I think that the copyright laws should be enforced and I believe that it will happen. Look for instance at the battle being engaged between Amazon and California, do you think for one minute Amazon will win that one? I don’t.

Amazon will have to collect taxes or leave California markets.

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 7:20 pm

ADONAI

“Who cares whether it’s “okay” or not? That has nothing to do with it.”

It has everything to do with the point.

“The focus should be on monetizing it and making it profitable.”

So now you want the internet to receive the profits that should be going to the items creator.

“Waste billions of dollars imprisoning an army of 15 year olds?”

You are blaming the wrong group age wise, they are only emulating what their parents did the entire time they were growing up.

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 6:44 pm

I agree with your post with this exception:

“I would suggest that promoting the concept of what it truly means to take someone else’s creative work, in a way that’s relatable to younger people, would be more appropriate and a longer term and lasting approach.”

In defense of the youth of today, and I am 65 years old, they are only emulating what they have watched their parents do since they were babies. I do believe that the punishment should fit the crime, the problem that immediately comes up is what should the fine be when you are dealing with one upload being able to be downloaded by literally 10s of 1,000s of people a day. I think the impetus should go to the file sharing sites themselves, they should be monitoring their sites and what material is being uploaded and removing any copyrighted material they find. No they wont catch all the material but they do have to try. That is the thing that did in the likes of Napster and Limewire, they had no control over their sites.

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 6:35 pm

The Greatful Dead were a one of a kind group and their allowing free recording of their music was one of the things that gave them such a devoted bunch of fans. But again I have to point out it was their choice to allow it to be done.

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 6:19 pm

So do I understand you right, you think that pirating others work is OK?

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 6:15 pm

Let’s make this easy, You write a song and retain the copyrights, is it OK for a consumer to buy one copy of Your work then upload it to a file sharing site so that others can download it free?

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 5:49 pm

Even with all of the discussion that has gone on here, the question still remains, “If you buy a record, movie or any other media of a persons work that has been copyrighted do YOU now have the right to violate that copyright and upload the work for others to download without getting the owners permission? And if you think you have that right what if anything are you basing it on?”

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 5:31 pm

Thank you for posting that link. Now if we could get others to read it and go by it we would be getting somewhere. On a sad note an awful lot of people would rather just be lazy and steal it from the net without regards for the laws.

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 5:21 pm

“The reality is that the digital way of things today makes taking the work of others without paying for it easy and prolific.”

The more important thing is just because the statement above is true, does that relieve us as the consumer of the responsibility to make sure we are paying for what we have taken?

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 5:18 pm

No, I just think when others have gone to the effort to write, paint or invent a body of work and taken the steps to protect it through copyright or patent process then they are indicating that they wish to retain control of any reproduction of their work. And they should be able to control that work.

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 5:04 pm

I would tend to agree with you, just as my article is a summary of anothers work, I have still given credit to them by the Ref. and link to their original work. It is a matter of respect for others in my book.

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 4:10 pm

“If you create art and present it to the world, is it yours anymore?”

My answer to this question is this if an artist or inventor were to just produce his/her work then dispose of it through sale or gifting then no it is no longer theirs it becomes the property of the new owner. It can and probably will be imitated if it is a sought after work.

If that same artist or inventor goes to the effort to register a copyright or patent on his work then that indicates that he wishes to retain the rights for production or reproduction for himself.

Which scenario would you apply to something such as a music file you purchased, does your purchase of the work void the copyrights?

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 3:52 pm

I understand the points you have made and yes I agree that the sooner they embrace their ability to gain from the internet the better off they will be.

But the question still remains do we as a consumer have the right to upload a work that has legally been copyrighted? The freedom of the internet gives us the ability to do so, but should we be exempt from prosecution for violating others rights to protection?

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 3:18 pm

In Sweden a 15 year-old boy has become the youngest person ever to be charged with violating copyright laws. If convicted, the boy could face a fine and be sentenced to community service.

By law in Sweden, the teenager is just old enough to be charged in a criminal case. He faces charges of, “intentionally or with gross negligence” uploading Hollywood blockbusters, including The Social Network, Rush Hour and True Grit, to tankaner.com and tankafesta.com.

According to prosecutor Fredrik Ingblad, the boy claimed he didn’t know his actions were criminal, Ingblad added, his youth should not be a reason not to file charges. If we think we can show that a crime has taken place, we pursue the case without looking at the perpetrators age.,” he said.

Police raided the boy’s home after his school, reported that a virus had been found on a computer the school had supplied the boy. When confronted, he said that he had downloaded films from the internet and uploaded them on file sharing sites.

Ingblad, said The case is important because it will show people that if you share copyrighted material without permission, there is a risk you may get caught.

What are your thoughts on copyright laws and the internet?

Ref: http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2011/09/03/15-year-old-faces-filesharing-rap/

» Posted By 800 lb. Gorilla On September 5, 2011 @ 2:12 pm