Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib18 hours ago
Hey Ad
twilson117
16 hours ago
Hey TW! How are things today?
AdLib16 hours ago
Things are pretty much the same since we last spoke. Working on a piece about Byron Donalds whom I think is a class a jackass along with all the other Trump supporters.
twilson117
16 hours ago
I’m trying to get my ideas out on paper for my follow-up on I hate Religion but Believe in God but that’s turned into bit of a challenge as I’m researching some things as I spoke with you about yesterday.
twilson117
16 hours ago
Did you see Donalds’ interview this week on CNN? Hed his feet to the fire about a bill he’s pushing to stop DC from giving young, first time offenders leniency…like he got in his crimes at 18 and 22. Damn hypocrite like Thomas.
AdLib16 hours ago
Right, that’s a very potent topic indeed and with all these MAGA “Christians”, I’d think Christianity is probably taking a bigger hit from young people being really turned off of it.
AdLib16 hours ago
Ad I didn’t see that but I will search for it so I can fit that in. What I have now I know I will rewrite as it needs to be tighten up and that will be good to use. I started with his interview on CNN the other day, but you just gave me an Idea on how I want to change it around to make it flow better.
twilson117
16 hours ago
Well the book I reading now Jesus and John Wayne goes into some good detail on that and it’s going to take some time t absorb that material and figure out how best to use it and make it tie in with I Believe In God, But Hate Religion series.
twilson117
16 hours ago
I think Murph is trying to sign in.
twilson117
16 hours ago
In that same interview, she nails Donalds for pushing the “Biden tried to kill Trump” BS too.
AdLib16 hours ago
TW – Imagine John Wayne being cast as Jesus in some 1940’s religious epic.
AdLib16 hours ago
Yes she did.
twilson117
16 hours ago
Hope Murph signs in successfully.
AdLib16 hours ago
But there is something extremely concerning in the air around this election as we’ve discussed.
twilson117
15 hours ago
Here’s a video about the “killing” BS.
AdLib15 hours ago
Murph is in the house let the party begin.
twilson117
15 hours ago
TW – I’m more convinced than ever that this election is coming amid a real push to overthrow our democracy.
AdLib15 hours ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib15 hours ago
Hello….20 minutes to log in……system kept asking me to log in, I did, and then nothing……..I have actually been here for several minutes but could not enter anything…..well better late than…
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
The plutocrat billionaires are throwing in with Trump and the Repubs, as are Putin and the Russians, not to mention the Dominionist moles in our justice system like Cannon, Thomas and Alito.
AdLib15 hours ago
Ad I’m also reading Applebaum’s book, Twilight of Democracy which has some good stuff on authoritarianism so there is a dual going on for attention and how I’m going to get all this stuff written. But is fun.
twilson117
15 hours ago
I truly think that this is an effort to overthrow the constitution and take the nation down the road to autocracy.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
Murph – Sorry that happened. Usually that’s a cache issue on your computer, sounds like the cookie that’s supposed to be created when you log in wasn’t being saved properly. Assuming you cleared your browser cache then got on?
AdLib15 hours ago
Murph you’re correct. The scarry thing is these people believe and think that is what they want and somehow Trump will take care of them if they give him what he wants. That’s what the German citizens thought as well.
twilson117
15 hours ago
TW – The sobering truth is that there is now a push coming from many directions, even inside our institutions, pressing for an overthrow of our democracy but the light at the end of the tunnel is that they represent a minority of voters.
AdLib15 hours ago
I didn’t really do anything except reenter my credentials several times….there was quite a lag and then three times I started again…..the last time worked it just took awhile t connect.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
How do you win with a minority of voters? You taint the electoral process from start to finish.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
Also read an interesting article in the NYT that explained some of the reasons for polls favoring Trump at this point. Apparently, polls are including people who don’t vote regularly and the percentage favors Trump among those who are also low info voters. Voters who are informed favor Biden by double digits.
AdLib15 hours ago
Murph that is what the Republicans are doing, and sadly they are getting the SC to go along with them based on the recent decision that just came down regarding SC.
twilson117
15 hours ago
We are having massive storms here….hope to stay with you but if I disappear the power went out.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
Murph – Just to keep in your back pocket, after a problem logging in, just clear your browser’s cache and it should solve the problem.
AdLib15 hours ago
Murph I’m starting to wonder if God is coming after the fools in your state for supporting Trump. 
twilson117
15 hours ago
Murph – I think we’re all on the same page, there is a multi-pronged effort to overthrow this election and our democracy. I don’t believe it will succeed but it won’t be for a lack of planning, financing, and scheming.
AdLib15 hours ago
Ad……that is interesting re. the polling…
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
Murph as you know Democracy is not really a natural form of governance.
twilson117
15 hours ago
Murph – Sorry to hear about the storms. But how do government officials think things will turn out as they oppose stopping climate change or even allowing it to be mentioned by their governments while it causes greater threats and damage year after year?
AdLib15 hours ago
Ad…perhaps I am not clearing my cache properly? I work on a MacBook Air….
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
Murph – That article rexplains why Trump’s polling lead is deceptive. As these uninformed voters favoring Trump start tuning into the election, Trump can only lose voters and Biden can only gain.
AdLib15 hours ago
Murph – Maybe you’re doing it right but just so you hav it, here’s a halpful article on it:
AdLib15 hours ago
It’s pretty much what we’ve discussed here, the people who are tuned out just don’t know the insanity of the 2024 Trump so they’re open to supporting him. But if the debates happen, I think they’ll be tuned in by then and understand better what a madman he’s become.
AdLib15 hours ago
Ad I believe the resistance we see is how and where people are getting their information from. I believe we’ve all discussed this before. I don’t think people look at multiple sources for information so they can have broader perspective.
twilson117
15 hours ago
And aside from that, if Trump is convicted in the Bragg case, that will carve away support from low-info voters from Trump and Biden having a far bigger war chest means he will run ads on all kinds of media “educating” the low info voters about who Trump is right now.
AdLib15 hours ago
Ad…I will look at the help article.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
Ad yes I do watch MSNBC for the nightly round up. But also read the Times WaPo Huff, Political WSJ NPR and other sites where I can for free so I have more points of view.
twilson117
15 hours ago
TW….and Ad….two of the most informed folk I know because they work at it.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
TW – I agree with that but this article in the Times was interestingly saying that is less of a factor with low info voters who are supporting Trump in polling right now, he says it’s more about the lack of info these people are getting and that they’re relying on whatever they see on Social Media, which is your point too. Kind of a combo. But that changes once the race is really on and news and social media will be spreading more and more about Trump and his insanity.
AdLib15 hours ago
Along with Murph, I am impressed with how both of you and our other Vox folks put in the effort to learn about what’s really going on by using a variety of sources. These nuttter MAGA types that are interviewed show off how ignorant a person becomes being in a news bubble with Fix or social media. If truth matters, you have to seek it out.
AdLib15 hours ago
Ad as to social media I agree with you there. But, what I find on Social Media is it seems more of confirmation bias than providing information that allows you to think. Which is why I’m rarely on FB or Twitter and I do use the other tools at all.
twilson117
15 hours ago
So, what are your latest predictions on whether Trump is convicted for his crimes in the Bragg case?
AdLib15 hours ago
TW – Great point about confirmation bias. Though, social media is a conduit for many MAGAs for all their “opinions” and conspiracy theories.
AdLib15 hours ago
The think that gets me is how rapidly Trump is going over the edge……his rants are more and more bizarre…..his antics in front of crowds that are largely imaginary in their size and enthusiasm, and lives off of the donations of his supporters when he promised he would fund his own efforts……..it is all just so obvious…..but the hive mind cannot challenge its unreality.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
Ad the thing about it, it works both ways those for Trump and those against Trump so we need to do some thinking about the information we’re getting.
twilson117
15 hours ago
I feel very strongly, as Trump and the GOP are exposing themselves as pro-fascist and crooked (yes Alito, looking at you too and your damn flags), more and more Americans are going to be alienated from them and be motivated to vote Biden and Dem to literally save our democracy and country.
AdLib15 hours ago
Ad….I do hope that you are correct.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
Murph you’re spot on about Trump. I think he is disassembling before our very eyes his rants are getting stranger and stranger.
twilson117
15 hours ago
Legislation blocking access to contraceptive without a prescription is well on the way here. And, along with it, a bill that reviews the integrity of doctors who write those prescriptions
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
This is a photo of Trump’s “huge” rally in the Bronx. He claimed it was 25k people, the whole park only holds like 4,000 so this photo looks like several hundred is all he could scrape up and most were brought in from elsewhere.
AdLib15 hours ago
Murph that is putting the country on a completely wrong path.
twilson117
15 hours ago
Ad doesn’t look like 25,000 t o me.
twilson117
15 hours ago
I shared that photo with several who were hailing trumps draw…..and was told the photos were doctored.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago
Ad the rap group he brought in or came in was from Fl not NY.
twilson117
15 hours ago
Trump’s rallies keep shrinking. His call for people to protest outside the NY courthouse in outrage only brought out a dozen on the first day and a couple each day after that. Trump’s popularity is deceptively strong in polling but so week in real life.
AdLib15 hours ago
Murph sadly that is what you and may others are dealing with, they will not accept the fact their supposed hero is flawed.
twilson117
15 hours ago
TW….were not some of the rappers he has been seen with also accused of various felonies.
MurphTheSurf3
15 hours ago