Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib3 hours ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib3 hours ago
Hey ad!
Harleigh
3 hours ago
You’re early.
AdLib3 hours ago
Everything good with you?
AdLib3 hours ago
Lost any $83 million lawsuits?
AdLib3 hours ago
way early! I’ll come back later, everything is going along…. no big lawsuits
Harleigh
3 hours ago
Great! Seeya then!
AdLib3 hours ago
Hey CL!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey Ad – how are you! I see Harleigh has Come and Gone. Hope he comes back!
choicelady
2 hours ago
He said he will.
AdLib2 hours ago
I am relieve he and you don’t have $83M in lawsuits – or ANY lawsuits for that matter.
choicelady
2 hours ago
So I understand that Trump will have to put up a bond of 110% of the judgement to file an appeal.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – that’s the law. The value of the directive plus interest. Trump thought he could use the tactics of his sleazy entertainment and corrupt real estate development as President. Well, lookie here – you can’t.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Imagine that by next week, the $83 milliion judgement will be the smallest one of the month against Trump.
AdLib2 hours ago
The one word he never learned – accountability.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Ad – he should pay and get out. Then he can beg Pootie Poot for a loan for the rest.
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL – He’s used to throwing a tantrum and getting his way. His walking out of the courtroom seems to have inspired the jury to crush him.
AdLib2 hours ago
And quickly.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – yes, he’s used to bullying, and never thought it wouldn’t work in the non corrupt world.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Trump is dumber than many realize. The way he conducted himself in the Carroll and fraud trials only seem to have made things much worse for him. I expect at least a $200M judgement and dissolution of the Trump Org next week.
AdLib2 hours ago
The judge in the fraud case said he’d have a judgement by the end of the month.
AdLib2 hours ago
Some who know think his IQ is below the norm. I suspect many bullies fit that mold – anger and bravado compensate for a lack of brain power.
choicelady
2 hours ago
That’s next Wed.
AdLib2 hours ago
I would like to see him broke. He’s gotten rich screwing workers and contractors for decades. He deserves to lose it all.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Yep, bullies get by with the threat and use of brute force. Not strategy.
AdLib2 hours ago
I just went through this with yet ANOTHER attorney who tried to bully me. He will rue the day.
choicelady
2 hours ago
TW!!! TW is IN the HOUSE!
choicelady
2 hours ago
I think all these cases that sanction him with hundreds of millions, dissolving the company and the criminal cases which result in prison will leave him behind bars and broke. How sweet!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey TW!
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – if anyone deserves to be brought low, it’s Trump. On Twitter, someone said of his kids they’re having a Bad Heir Day!
choicelady
an hour ago
Good evening all. I understand there is a certain individual looking for a loan to the tune of $83.3 million Ad, and CL are in the mood to spare him a dime? 
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – Sorry to hear that you had to deal with that but that lawyer is going to regret it.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – NO. Not a penny.
choicelady
an hour ago
AW CL not even one small penny.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – the attorney screwed the woman I’ve helped because I ran out of funds. Little does he know I have NO compunction writing to the judge to say what happened.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – That’s pretty funny! That’s a dividend, knowing the trump Boys counted on Daddy’s wealth and org taking care of them in the future. Heh-heh!
AdLiban hour ago
TW – Nope. I have friends in low places. I have low expectations for myself. But I have sky high standards about not helping racist fascists.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph is in the House
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – He screwed his client’s case? What kind of lowlife does that?
AdLiban hour ago
MURPH!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – He didn’t get enough money from me, so he found a way – a deeply suspect way – to dump her at the 11th hour. He should have known I’d rat him out to the judge.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL well, you’ll be glad to know I couldn’t stop laughing at the amount couldn’t happen to a better class of bump that he is.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – Someone wrote MO is trying to allow duels between opposing political views. I say MO has retreated to the Dark Ages and should make that jousting.
choicelady
an hour ago
I actually predicted $80 million to $100 million as the high end of the Carroll case. I think the fraud case next week will at least be $200 million but possibly $300 Million and the Trump Org dissolved.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – absolutely true! We are already DANCING in the STREETS over seeing him brought low.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL duels at high noon wow
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – I assume you’ll also file a complaint with the CA bar. That is wholly unethical.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – not nearly classy enough. If you’re going to have Medieval laws, let’s have Medieval justice: jousting tournaments or something of that ilk. A la Monty Python’s “Holy Grail” match ups.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – the attorney is in TX. The woman involved will file the complaint.
choicelady
an hour ago
Howdy all…just finished reading the discussion thus far…you guys are ON FIRE.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
We are – and your arrival just tossed kerosene on the conflagration! How are you?
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – I saw that too. What kind of idiot…and the MO GOP ispacked with them, thinks a priority and a good idea would be to allow citizens to kill legislators in duels. Why would he think fat and corrupt legislators would prevail in a duel?
AdLiban hour ago
CL…I did not read about the dueling idea but nothing surprises me in this state.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL…chuckle…..I am ok….nothing of significance has changed….which is good and bad.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
As MO is the state of my grandfather’s birth and upbringing, I’d cringe if I didn’t know he would have been quite happy with your current legislature. He was an America First fan and a racist and anti Semite. My grandmother left him over it.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – I actually get the “nothing changed, and that’s both good and bad” mantra here.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Got it! Now that you tell me the lawyer is a Texan, can’t say I’m surprised. The bar is so low in TX that snakes slither over it.
AdLiban hour ago
CL sounds like the Outlaw Josey Wales will be back
twilson117
an hour ago
These idiots in Texas are something else.
twilson117
an hour ago
AD no the snakes are running the it
twilson117
an hour ago
So what do you folks think about the seditionist border conflict going on in TX and championed by Trump? It seems so intentionally tactical to me, a desperate attempt to change the trajectory of Trump losing in Nov.
AdLiban hour ago
Well, the issue here is he turns out to be a “born again” because, he told her, he was a bad dude to age 48. I say he’s not a Christian but a “Penitent” looking for absolution and no commitment to actually DOING better. You all do know that today’s “born again” folks were given total absolution from their sins. Take Jesus into your heart? You can then do ANYTHING YOU WANT. Problem is – society ain’t so forgiving.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – Like you and I joke, put a TX Republican on Snake Island and the snakes avoid him.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad…in that 25 other GOP governors have joined Abbott in support of his actions I agree that this is grandstanding meant to distract and elevate their brand and thus lift Trump as a result.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad yes they will
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – I am VERY worried once I found out this marauding group calls itself “The Army of God”, the same people who murdered my friend, Bart Slepian, the abortion provider in Buffalo 1998. I have Catholic nun friends in San Ysidro, and these extremists are going to target NGOs such as theirs. I am deeply worried.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph I saw that on the news all these Repug gov’s have gone off the deep end
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – Yes, I remember something in the Bible about Jesus handing out Get Out of Hell Free cards.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – gosh, I missed that Jesus free card thingy.
choicelady
an hour ago
Choice ….I join you in your concern….theer are elements of the Army of God here in Mo and they moving out in support of the Texas Line.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
I think TX is at much higher risk than CA, but that isn’t NO risk.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – can you get a sense of numbers coming from MO to TX and environms?
choicelady
an hour ago
All, do you think these folks will do something similar to what happened in Nevada a few years ago
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – Yes, but what Biden can do is nationalize the state Guard. It will be somewhat resisted and absolutely resisted by Abbott, but it’s a way to end some of this. I’m thinking it’s more like Ottawa Canada – lots of truckers – but no city to encircle.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – I don’t know this as a fact but it seems coordinated that Trump kills the border bill, the MSM starts churning about that and putting it in the public mind, then Abbott defiest the SCOTUS and 25 state Govs instantly come to join in? That doesn’t seem by chance at all. And Trump championing this rebellion against the Constitution and the SCOTUS? Seems like they want Biden to be as reckless as them, send troops down to start a conflict with National Guard then attack Biden as a fascist using the military to attack patriotic soldiers trying to protect America from the fiction threats of immigrants. This is a PsyOp, wouldn’t be surprising to find Bannon’s or FLynn’s fingerprints on this.
AdLiban hour ago
Cl I have asked around…..of course there are many groups with similar agenda and they have common/shared membership so they are hard to track….but I have been told that a “Battalion” of 12 trucks has been “dispatched” BTW why 12….think apostles.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – Is the Army of God at the TX border?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – I think that’s what they WANT to happen – but all Biden has to do is federalize the Guards in border states. Most of the commanders are loyal Americans. Biden will NOT send in active duty if he doesn’t have to. He and our national intel are ten times smarter than the GOP governors, don’t care what state.,
choicelady
an hour ago
CL…your outline of what I regard as a conspiracy is quite believable.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad – Army of God is at all four border states’ borders.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – sure. They see themselves as holy, so why not elevate themselves to Apostles?
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – they are targeting San Ysidro in CA.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL- Yes, Biden should natiionalize ALL National Guard in TX, including ones from other states and when any refuse to follow orders, make an example of them by courtmartialing and imprisoning them. Can’t play Go Fish with a growing insurrection, need to cut it off at the knees WITHOUT using a military confrontation. Also, I think Biden can declare an emergency with Abbott violating the Constitution and SCOTUS and withhold fedral money from TX. Use them as the example if any other Red states get the idea to disregard parts of the Constitution they don’t like.
AdLiban hour ago
AD I see the hands of Steve Bannon and Mike Flynn involved in this.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – that all sounds good, and I have a lot of confidence in our current administration to know what to do.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – Bannon and Flynn are EXACTLY who are behind this.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Then Newsom and the Leg need to pass anti-militia laws to prevent them from being at the border in CA.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – Yes, this seems very calculated. But Biden and his Admin are far too smart to fall into this obvious trap.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad I believe that
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – I feel the same way, not worried Biden would do just what they want, throw Fed troops to “force” the NGs out of the way. Again, I think he federalizes the NG based on the violation of the Constitution (because they want him to declare an emergency based on border immigration to use against him) then order the NGs out and to remove any uncooperative NGs and protect Border Patrol as they take over.
AdLiban hour ago
choicelady
an hour ago
AD it looks like I’m going to have to crack the book on the Peloponnesian war as I believe Bannon is using that as a road map for this nonsense.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – So we go back beyond jousting to Gladiator style combat? Well, I can see the RW attraction for that.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Ah, so it is an organize sedition like the truckers in Canada as you referenced, to clog up the borders and in essence, “take over” the borders. Remember how badly that went for the Canadian truckers? It will be worse for them and Trump.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – they are so full of their bravado and cosplaying they don’t see tactically.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL this thirst for another Civil War makes no sense to us thinking folks.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – Not an expert on the Peloponnesian War but I think this New Confederacy sedition is pretty slipshod. They will celebrate their chaos at first but in the end, Americans will turn on them along with the Feds and people will go to prison.
AdLiban hour ago
CL I understand that Biden can Nationalize the National Guard, the question I have is how many in the Texas NG would defy the order, as I think some would.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – in the “real” Civil War, however vile and despicable, there was a goal. That was the preservation of slavery. There isn’t even a GOAL here. If you ask them what they have “lost” they can never tell you. If you ask them what they want, they give mumbled generalities. Without a clear purpose, they are doomed.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad I started reading about it a while back it put to sleep and have avoided but, may have to deal with it.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – certainly some TX Guard would, but their commanders likely would not. They are at a huge disadvantage and should, going in, KNOW it.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – So true, these fools are so dumb they think that since it’s not sedition at The Capitol, they can’t be arrested for sedition. They will be so painfully wrong and when it’s all said and done, it will only push Indie voters farther away from the Repubs cheering on this madness.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – The point is, the leaders in charge of NG will mostly obey their oath, any who don’t will be removed and replaced and any NG who refuse to obey their oath will be rounded up byt the majority that follow their constitutional orders.
AdLiban hour ago
Folks, I fear that I am fading more quickly than I expected. I am reading along as you chat……
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad Bannon is a big fan of it for what seems obvious reasons as the Spartans brought down the high and mighty Greeks who thought they were better or at least that’s what the Spartans thought but when they took over it was nothing to total anarchy for 30 years until the Greeks in Athens took back power.
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – Another great point, this is all performative, just MAGA “We Want To Rebel!” crap with no point aside from that. Just like with 1/6, once you start to arrest and prosecute these cockroaches, they’ll scatter under the nearest rocks. Cowards, all of them.
AdLiban hour ago
Hang in there Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad don’t don’t the commanding officers would, but, there is a part of me that feels some of the CO would go along with upsetting the apple cart.
twilson117
an hour ago
Still…here finding the banter of real value.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
As you all know, I am rabidly prochoice. But I never thought that one issue would make a lot of people wake up to what lost liberty was. And yet it has. The fascist reactionary zealots MIGHT have had a chance prior to Dobbs – people are indifferent to a lot of things – but no longer. Even suburban housewives are paying attention to other people’s plights. Not everyone is a Karen. And most Karens are either MAGA or DSA. The rest of America is waking up to the drumbeat of the March of the Theocratic Fascists.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph sounds like you had a bit of a long day.
twilson117
an hour ago
Love you, Murph – take care of yourself and come back where you’re ready.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – you CAN be just a reader. We don’t have performance scores.
choicelady
an hour ago
We lost TW!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – Very different dynamics than where the US is now. A small minority is clamoring for dictatorship for the sake of domination alone. Meanwhile, we still have a democracy in most states (not all) and power will be handed to the winner of the Nov election, not the MAGA cult leader who won’t get anywhere near winning sufficient electors. In a year, we will have defeated this movement at least for the time being and Dems could have unified power in DC, should pass a slew of laws after killing the filibuster including voting rights that prevent this kind of sedition from continuing.
AdLiban hour ago
Very long days of light. I am working the campaign a lot…..but that deep, deep freeze that we had with us for a week did a lot of damage that needs repairing and since co-op is no more, I do most of this on my own.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Where’s TW?
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – I’m sorry for your long days of toil. Do what you need to do.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW’s back!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – no clue where TW went, but he’s BACK
choicelady
an hour ago
Sorry about that hit the wrong key
twilson117
an hour ago
But I so enjoy the debate here….I will take it in.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – that’s the definition of 21st C. life – I hit the wrong key.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW…you are wonderful….”hit the wrong key” no drama, just oops!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL you’re right about that.
twilson117
an hour ago
I love cell phone as phones. I love the internet. I love being able to talk to you all whom I have never met and to meet some to whom I talk. But overall, tech makes life harder not easier.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph well fat fingers
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – Great points! Women and younger voters recognize how precarious our rights and democracy are right now and they have helped power Dems to better than predicted victories for the past 7 years and counting. The dynamics have changed and most Americans see how high the stakes are. Just read the stat that 26k raped women in TX were forced to have their rapist’s babies in tha past year. That kind of insanity has to stop!
AdLiban hour ago
I STILL thnk you should be able to go to the store, buy a TV, come home, plug it in and watch. You should NOT need an Electronic Engineering degree to set it up.
choicelady
an hour ago
I CL…I think that tech has very much complicated our lives to the point that focus is hard to maintain and that is very wearing.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL well those EE’s have to earn their money somehow to pay their student loans.
twilson117
an hour ago
People may not have skin in the game on abortion, but they’re seeing that it’s a stand in for ALL losses of liberty. MAJOR wake up call.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW /// Better fat finger than a fat head….and that you definitely do not have….sharp, sharp, sharp.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Tech exhausts me. I want things I don’t have to program to make them work.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph thanks.
twilson117
an hour ago
The irony is that the argument for innovation is that it will make our lives easier and yet the routines associated with innovations make life more complicated. Phones that were supposed to bring us together more end up pulling our attention away from others (especially kids with phones).
AdLiban hour ago
Well, all of you all have sharp, sharp, sharp minds.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – Love my hubs, but he spends more time with Apple and Geek Squad than with me.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
CL about the only thing that falls into that category is the push down toaster.
twilson117
44 minutes ago
And yet, if it wasn’t for tech, we wouldn’t all be here having a conversation from various points on the US map.
AdLib44 minutes ago
TW – I gave my push down toaster up for a toaster oven, and while I am not totally overwhelmed, I can’t move from toast to bake without th guide book.]
choicelady
44 minutes ago
CL – My wife has no idea how lucky she really is by having a techie husband who solves any and all issues.
AdLib43 minutes ago
Ad all I can say to that is when my phone starts telling my that it’s in charge it’s time for me to rethink my view of tech.
twilson117
43 minutes ago
Ad….you a techie….really….hard to believe.
MurphTheSurf3
43 minutes ago
TW – My phone THINKS it’s in charge of my life.
AdLib43 minutes ago
Ad – you are a man among men! Greg is good with tech, but far too reliant on it, and then it breaks. My “calendar” is a date book in paper and pencil that NEVER needs rebooting.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
Murph – Heh!
AdLib42 minutes ago
Ad – but IS it in charge of your life? Do you only THINK you have autonomy?
choicelady
42 minutes ago
CL – Yep, neverhad to reboot my legal pad.
AdLib42 minutes ago
Ad – Nope. I am still in possession of pens, paper, ink, and legal pads.
choicelady
41 minutes ago
CL – I go out of my way to pull the chair out from under my phone when it tries to sit down and tell me what we
AdLib41 minutes ago
‘re going to do.
AdLib41 minutes ago
Ad you’ve got that backwards, you don’t know how lucky you are that she puts up with your techie quirkiness .
twilson117
41 minutes ago
Did you all see Zelensky’s rebuke of Trump for claiming he can end the war in 24 hours. Basically said put up or shut up.
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
Ad – I think you are less than convincing on these last two messages…
choicelady
40 minutes ago
TW – Heh! She definitely shows little interest when I excitedly share with her how I’ve boosted our WIFI signal.
AdLib40 minutes ago
Murph – Zelensky knows the “end” is total capitulation to Russia by Ukrained.
choicelady
40 minutes ago
Murph I didn’t see that but I like what Zelensky said.
twilson117
40 minutes ago
Murph – Yes, saw that he invited Trump to Ukraine to explain how he’d end the war in 24 hours. But who needs him to fly to Ukraine when you can just call up a photo of Putin on Google?
AdLib39 minutes ago
Ad no didn’t tell me you didn’t do that.
twilson117
39 minutes ago
I am upset that there seems no way for Biden to re-arm Ukraine the entire year, until Repubs are voted out of The House. I like that the Senate Committee passed a bill to allow the use of siezed Russian funds to give to Ukraine but don’t see how it will pass in The House. Only possibility is Repubs lose a few more seats and Dems can take over with Jeffries as Speaker. Don’t know the odds of that but fingers croassed.
AdLib37 minutes ago
TW – What can I say, I improve our tech and am excited about it but to my wife, it sounds like I’m reading entries out of the dictionary in alphabetical order.
AdLib36 minutes ago
Ad are we still sending them the Jets?
twilson117
36 minutes ago
Here is a little side story……I have a neighbor….about 2 miles down the road…..who has a card covered in MAGA/Trump Signs, flags and banners……I do know him but I was at the market and a neighbor I do. know was waxing very eloquently about the mental disorder that such hero worship engenders…and no one in a rather crowded store was contradicting her….there is an exhaustion factor at work here.
MurphTheSurf3
35 minutes ago
TW – Yes, I think we’re still training Ukranians in our jets and delivering them. Just hope NATO and the EU can keep Ukraine afloat until we throw out these insane, anti-American Repubs from control in DC.
AdLib34 minutes ago
Ad – I have seen knowledgeable people both in the US and abroad, talk about confiscating Russian frozen assets and sending them to Ukraine. The USA has $300B. to do that. I have heard Biden is discussing the legality w good people. Second, we have a lot of DoD equipment – MAJOR good stuff – to be scrapped that is actually functional if slightly outdated that we could ship. I will lay odds these two things are found to be entirely in Executive control and transferrable.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
OTHER nations are contemplating sending Russian assets.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
Ad trust me, when you fix the hinge on the door the old fashion way she will get excited, but increasing internet speed not something of interest.
twilson117
33 minutes ago
The byproduct of transferring Russian assets to Ukraine is that they won’t ever then be repatriated to Russia.
choicelady
33 minutes ago
TW – you obviously understand what is important to women.
choicelady
33 minutes ago
BRB
choicelady
32 minutes ago
Murph – That’s very interesting! I think the exit polling and interviews in NH reflected the same Trump/chaos exhaustion in Repubs and the ongoing support for Haley, who is awful herself but not Trump, along with polls saying that if Trump is convicted of a crime, anywhere from 30%-40% of Repubs see him as unfit for the WH, reflects Trump exhaustion. They don’t want to have 4 more (maybe lifelong) years of that.
AdLib32 minutes ago
Ad I’ve been married longer and it’s finally sunk in. 
twilson117
32 minutes ago
Murph sounds like some of the folks are TF, Trump Fatigue
twilson117
31 minutes ago
CL – That’s what I’ve been hoping, that Biden can find military equipment that he can legally direct to Ukraine in the meantime. I know Biden wants to release that $300 billion, not sure he can do it without Congress but he should absolutely find money under any couch cushions in the Fed govt that he can to send to them.
AdLib30 minutes ago
Ad…what I am finding interesting is that Trump crowds at Trump organizing events continue to shrink. Increasingly the loyal core at these events are the craziest folk you know.
MurphTheSurf3
30 minutes ago
CL – Hope it’s easier for other countries to send Russian assets, seems more complicated for Biden and the US.
AdLib30 minutes ago
TW – I fixed the strike plate on the front door, it would get stuck and not open before. Had to mention it, no one noticed. Now if I had messed it up and the front door couldn’t open?
AdLib28 minutes ago
Ad it would make sense to send over equipment we no longer use the Ukrainians seem very capable of making things work that other people are asking, how they do that.
twilson117
28 minutes ago
CL – And the satisfaction will be that Putin will know his country’s money is being used to destroy his military further.
AdLib27 minutes ago
Tw – that issue of sending stuff to be scrapped to Ukraine is very much alive.
choicelady
27 minutes ago
Ad – upsetting Putin is one of my happy places.
choicelady
26 minutes ago
Ad they noticed, but just didn’t want you to get a big head for doing what has been deemed what you’re supposed to do.
twilson117
26 minutes ago
TW….I have been intrigued by Ukrainian ingenuity…..I do not think I have shared that there is a Ukrainian Catholic Church in the town next over from mine. They are doing wonderful things in support of their people in Ukraine and have welcomed dozens of refugees….many of who are the most vulnerable……I have joined them in prayer several times.
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
Murph – When the coffee pot is drained, all that’s left is the dregs. Or as we also call it, the MAGA GOP. I think Trump knows he has no chance to win in Nov, the Trump Fatigue shows in votes and polls and dropping rally attendance. Hence the seditionist trap at the TX border. Anything to kick the game board over and change the current trajectory of the election in Nov.
AdLib25 minutes ago
Murph I’ve read about their ability to think outside the box.
twilson117
24 minutes ago
TW – I guess you’re right. Well, I enjoy fixing things anyway, I don’t do it for the fame and accolades.
AdLib23 minutes ago
Ad, it good that you can do that. I was told a long time ago I’m no longer allowed to have tools.
twilson117
22 minutes ago
Ad…..one of my associates, not really a friend but we are friendly, has been MAGA from the start…..and he has grudgingly admitted that Trump is not as entertaining, as empathetic or as dynamic as he used to be….he is still for him, but without a lot of enthusiasm…I wonder what it will take to push him over the fence.
MurphTheSurf3
22 minutes ago
As for Netanyahu and Israel, The Hague pulled punches but essentially told Israel that it had to prevent genocide in Gaza AND stop the RW in the govt from espousing genocide towards Palestinians.
AdLib22 minutes ago
TW – you’re no longer allowed to have tools? You should meet my husband. Same issue.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
Ad – the pushback against the RW is growing globally. I hope we win it everywhere
choicelady
20 minutes ago
Murph that’s interesting, the part about what he said Trump being entertaining. That seems to be the through line for these MAGA’s not that he can do what he says but that he entertains them.
twilson117
20 minutes ago
Murph – I hope that Trump losing lawsuit after lawsuit, criminal case after criminal case and nosediving in the polls may snowball and end up shedding people like your neighbor from supporting him. Polls do say that a criminal conviction will be decisive in slicing off a big chunk of Trump support.
AdLib20 minutes ago
TW – Send me your tools. Heh!
AdLib20 minutes ago
well….folks…..my spirit is fading…read your comments re. Trump and my neighbor….spot on……
MurphTheSurf3
19 minutes ago
CL – Yes, I guess you may be referring to the huge anti-fascist turnout in Germany too?
AdLib19 minutes ago
Ad it won’t be much, a hammer, couple of screwdrivers and a pipe wrench all you need to fix whatever is broken right?
twilson117
18 minutes ago
OOOOHHHHHH before I go….some drama….
MurphTheSurf3
18 minutes ago
Murph – if your MAGA friend is a farmer, you might point out Trump wants to reinstate tariffs that nearly killed US agriculture during his tenure. Trump is rigidly ideological and not at all reflective. What he wants he wants, whether it hurts someone such as the US farmer.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
I’ve seen a number of reports of people streaming out of Trump rallies after 10-15 minutes. I think his act has gone very stale.
AdLib18 minutes ago
Ad – yes.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
Murph – what drama?
choicelady
18 minutes ago
CL my pet dog knows more about economics than Trump and I don’t have a dog.
twilson117
17 minutes ago
TW – I can’t believe how my tools have lasted and keep on going. I just do little things around the house and yard but rare to have to replace anything.
AdLib17 minutes ago
I am part of a group that is facilitating transport of pregnant women in our area to Illinois to give them access to the care they need.
MurphTheSurf3
16 minutes ago
Ad – how many times can fans listen to “boopy boop bing bang, oodle oo” and not want to make circles by the ear showing this boy, Trump, has lost it?
choicelady
16 minutes ago
MURPH – MY MAN!!!
choicelady
16 minutes ago
Trump won’t be re-elected but in a parallel world where that happens, he wouldn’t be able to help out farmers again after raising tariffs across the board because in the meantime, a Repub Congress would pass a balanced budget amendment. Heh! Poor Earth 45.
AdLib15 minutes ago
Very cool, Murph!
AdLib15 minutes ago
Ad my dad use to take me on some of his side plumbing jobs and tell me, son this is a pipe wrench and I just look at and say yeah what do you want me to do with it?
twilson117
15 minutes ago
CL –
AdLib15 minutes ago
CL…yeah….I was at a meeting and was challenged by a woman in the group to “actually earn my credentials as a liberal humanitarian…..what have you done lately!” Raised my ire and also punched me in the gut. SO…….I am in.
MurphTheSurf3
14 minutes ago
Murph you’re a trouble starter, that’s great.
twilson117
14 minutes ago
TW – not everything is everyone’s strength. I do know what to do with a pipe wrench, but not what to do after that.
choicelady
14 minutes ago
Among the quotes from Jefferson, Lincoln, and FDR, Trump’s “Beep-boop-beep-boop-bam!” will be most remembered.
AdLib14 minutes ago
My job in the group is create a bank of resources across the border….id possible providers, set up intake procedures, and put after care support in place for when they return home here.
MurphTheSurf3
13 minutes ago
TW – I guess that made you a Plumber’s Helper?
AdLib13 minutes ago
Ad to be written in sand just before high tide.
twilson117
12 minutes ago
Murph – after our long discussion of moving teens via pretend “religious meetings”, I KNOW you were ready. If you aren’t being scrutinized by cops, great. But if you are, you can pretend you’re a family on the way to meet Aunt Myrtle. This stuff is serious, and it’s not without risk, so keep me apprised of your doings. I will be so glad you’re doing it and so worried at the same time.
choicelady
12 minutes ago
Ad it did until I dropped a pipe cutting die on my foot and cried like a baby, that thing hurt.
twilson117
11 minutes ago
Murph – It’s disgusting that we’ve been reduced to having to transport pregnant women from an oppressive state to a free state. Not what I imagined the US would be in 2024.
AdLib11 minutes ago
Ad – don’t forget UCC and Episcopalians as resource churches in IL. Any of them that are “open and affirming” or “welcoming” are likely also prochoice.
choicelady
11 minutes ago
TW – My foot hurts just thinking of that. I hate dropping anything heavy on my foot, makes me cringe at the thought.
AdLib10 minutes ago
Ad it got me out of going on those side jobs which I hated.
twilson117
10 minutes ago
CL…I think I too well known to actually move folks……so what I do is identify, contact and organize points of care and access to them. Not quite life risking but still a bit tense
MurphTheSurf3
9 minutes ago
OMG – TW! Of COURSE you did! Those suckers are HEAVY, and I am sure you weren’t wearing “metatarsals” with the protection actual pipe cutters wear. OOOOOO that makes me sick!!!
choicelady
9 minutes ago
CL – But do you think any state, including states like ID and TX that have laws preventing the transportation of pregnant women to other states for abortion, really want to risk prosecuting someone when the constitution protects free travel across state borders without restrictions? That would get such laws overturned.
AdLib9 minutes ago
Murph did anyone tell you that you have a bit of outlaw in you?
twilson117
9 minutes ago
Your job is absolutely essential.
choicelady
9 minutes ago
TW….outlaw……not my self image, but I can see your point.
MurphTheSurf3
8 minutes ago
CL didn’t break anything but hurt like hell. But like I said my days of going with him on those side jobs were over.
twilson117
8 minutes ago
Ad – zealots never think of the law. Why we advocate phone “religious camps” or “Teen Faith Weekends” in collaboration w churches in WA and NM.
choicelady
8 minutes ago
Tw – I can well believe that terminated your limited enthusiasm.
choicelady
7 minutes ago
Murph okay a bit of Robin Hood, without the bow and sword.
twilson117
7 minutes ago
With all the scare tactics about this by Repub states, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that there hasn’t been an arrest simply for transporting or traveling with a pregnant woman to a state that allows abortion. They know any conviction would end the use of that law to scare women out of doing that.
AdLib7 minutes ago
TW….now there is an image….me in a green jerkin
MurphTheSurf3
6 minutes ago
Ad – that is true, but you are too kind thinking the RW would actually think this through.
choicelady
6 minutes ago
Murph – You should grow a pencil moustache.
AdLib6 minutes ago
The version I’m think of is the Erroll Flyn version.
twilson117
6 minutes ago
Murph and TW – it’s the hat. I want Murph in the
choicelady
6 minutes ago
Robin Hood hat.
choicelady
6 minutes ago
Ad….I am going to pass your comment on re. transport….good insight.
MurphTheSurf3
5 minutes ago
I am more Friar Tuck than Robin Hood.
MurphTheSurf3
5 minutes ago
TW – is there ANOTHER version other than Erroll Flynn?
choicelady
5 minutes ago
CL – TX has done this with all of their illegal and unconstitutional laws. They pass them to create a fear factor but don’t enforce them out of worry that they’ll be overturned.
AdLib5 minutes ago
CL not for me. I’ve seen a number of the remakes and that’s one I always come back to.
twilson117
5 minutes ago
Costner played Robin in a pretty good remake.
MurphTheSurf3
4 minutes ago
Murph – Friar tuck? Well, aren’t we all at this age?
choicelady
4 minutes ago
CL…now you are being kind.
MurphTheSurf3
4 minutes ago
Errol Flynn will always be the image of Robin Hood in my mind. Remember seeing that as a film at an after-school movie screening when I was a kid.
AdLib4 minutes ago
As a woman, however, I work REALLY hard not to have the tonsure.
choicelady
4 minutes ago
Folks….I am in need of sleep so I shall slumber….this was challenging, informative, but most of all, fun! Good night.
MurphTheSurf3
3 minutes ago
Can’t beat that final swordfight with the Sheriff of Nottingham on the stairs.
AdLib3 minutes ago
Murph Morgan Freeman made that version watchable for me.
twilson117
3 minutes ago
Rest well Murph and have a great weekend!
AdLib2 minutes ago
Murph be well have good weekend.
twilson117
2 minutes ago
I have a distant relative, Damian O’Flynn who was a B Actor you have seen but not memorably whose entire career was ruined by Errol Flynn – on the name and similar appearance. Damian did fine but was not ever a leading man cuz Errol got there first.
choicelady
2 minutes ago
Don’t forget, next week the judgement against Trump in the fraud case comes out by Wed.
AdLib2 minutes ago
Ad you think she’ll get the 370 million?
twilson117
a minute ago
CL – That’s messed up and such a Hollywood story. You can look somewhat like another actor but you can’t have too similar a name.
AdLiba minute ago
Missed saying good night to Murph. And I will bid you all the same – good night, dear friends. See you next week. Hope the verdict is a resource killer for the filthy animal.
choicelady
a few seconds ago
Sweet dreams, dear friends!
choicelady
a few seconds ago
TW – I think it will be $300 million at least though I suppose it could be as low as $200 million.
AdLiba few seconds ago
CL you take care.
twilson117
a few seconds ago
Night CL!
AdLiba few seconds ago
Want to chat?
AdLibin a few seconds
Yes give me a min I will call.
twilson117
in a few seconds
Ok!
AdLibin a few seconds
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