Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey CL!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey y’all – hubs has had a minor accident with no harm to him but chaos to the car. I’m awaiting word of its survival and his arrival home. So IF all is well, I may be on later. If not, well, see you next week!
choicelady
an hour ago
Oh no! Glad hubby’s okay! Sounds good, hope all is good and we’ll see you later!
AdLiban hour ago
It was a concrete bumper in a tight parking lot accident. He’s fine =- the car MAY be fine. They’re getting it off the bumper now to see. You know the ways life can screw with you is just amazing. So I will be on if all is well. and I don’t have to go retrieve him from some auto repair place.
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
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pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hey PPO!
AdLiban hour ago
Murph was here for a minute.
AdLiban hour ago
Hey, Ad! Glad to be home.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL, hope Hubby is fine.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Quite a nice odyssey!
AdLiban hour ago
Back
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
There you are, Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
Here I am! Exhausted but here.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
You’re invisible now, Murph! In the left window.
AdLiban hour ago
Hi, Murph!\
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Murph – What have you been working on?
AdLiban hour ago
So…..PPO….high points in your Odyssey?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad…working the Kunce Campaign….today the theme was work to counterpoint Mancin.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Hey glenn!
AdLiban hour ago
Hi…..Glenn…..how have you been?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Why is Kunce counterpointing Manchin?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad…..another Dem seat on the edge.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
High points? Seeing Fergies friends in SFO, Cousin Agnes’ 101st b’day in Pittsburgh, Cousin timothy in Boston, and my neices in England. Low points? Medical scare in Pittsburgh, 7 hour flight Buffalo to Boston! 5 hours sitting in Singapore while Qantas 787 broke down.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hi, glenn
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Good evening PPO Murph and AD. I’m doing all right. Had to have surgery to Connect a vein to an artery so I had a port for dialysis. I have one on my chest already but they want that one to go away because it’s on the outside and they’re worried about infection. Arm is still a little sore from the doctor taking out 41 staples. Other than that I’m fine. Very happy to hear that Trump has been indicted so many times. Now let’s get him in jail.
glenn
an hour ago
Murph – I think Manchin is in big trouble. He has a chance to keep his Senate seat but his blathering against the Dem party and threatening to leave it and even run for president as a Trump-helping scheme with “No Labels” (and No Morals) makes me look forward to his exit.
AdLiban hour ago
PPO – Thoswe are big ups and downs!
AdLiban hour ago
PPO….every adventure has its moments, both good and bad……seems like you made the most of it and in your inimitable style do so in an unremarkable but completely sincere way.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO, wow you had some high and low points. Sitting in Singapore in an airplane Doesn’t sound like much fun. Are you back home now or are you still traveling?
glenn
an hour ago
Glenn – I know having the surgery for creating that port in your arm can be painful but it should make dialysis easier.
AdLiban hour ago
PPO – So what was the health scare?
AdLiban hour ago
Murph, what else can you do. Moaning doesn’t fix it. I’m also with glenn about Yambo indictments and muzzling by the judge. Hope he breaks the conditions and gets remanded in custody!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Glenn – your are a medical stalwart! You say so easily what has got to be nerve shredding. I really hope that all of this positively touches your life with a sense healing and moving forward.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Hey TW!
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Good evening everyone
twilson117
an hour ago
AD— Dialysis is quite easy for me right now with a port in my chest. I don’t like the idea of having needles in my arm three times a week but there’s not much I can do about it. Anyway it is what it is
glenn
an hour ago
Hey TW. Hope you’re doing all right tonight.
glenn
an hour ago
Ad….I agree with your Mancin assessment but it seems clear to me that the chances of holding onto a Senate Senate even if by a fickle Dem is unlikely to be in the cards.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad, I suddenly started massive shakes all over. Went back to hotel and slept overnight. Next day, nothing! I think it was an allergic reaction to some funny tasting pickles I had at lunch. Home now and still fine.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Murph thanks for the kind words. You just gotta keep moving forward.
glenn
an hour ago
Hi, TW! It was great to meet you and what a blast of an afternoon! Hope we can do it again next year.
pinkpantheroz
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PPO good to see you here and glad to know you made it home safe and sound
twilson117
an hour ago
Judge Chutkan is brilliant, instead of threatening Trump with being imprisoned which he would exploit, threatening to speed up the start of the trial if he breaks the rules was genius.
AdLiban hour ago
Hello TW.
MurphTheSurf3
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PPO I look forward to it.
twilson117
an hour ago





































Murph how are you doing hope all is well.
twilson117
an hour ago





































Glenn good to see you here tonight.
twilson117
an hour ago
AD, yes I agree with you. The judge was wonderful. Also she made sure that his lawyers knew what the parameters of the order is.
glenn
an hour ago





































All just finished reading her protective order and have to say she don’t play.
twilson117
an hour ago
glenn – I was told that the doctors prefer the port in the arm because it has less of a chance of infection. We tried to do it with my mother but it wasn’t useable.
AdLiban hour ago
Thanks TW. It’s good to be here tonight. I finally feel pretty good after dialysis nowadays. Although some days are better than others.
glenn
an hour ago





































Glenn, glad to see you’re feeling better and able to attend tonight. How are you holding out with the heat?
twilson117
an hour ago
Yes a D. That’s why they put the port in my arm because there’s less of a chance of infection. But he had to do it twice first he connected the vein to the artery. Then he had to move the vein which is what I just had done.
glenn
an hour ago
TW- working the Kunce Campaign, tending to my much reduced farming activity, ghost writing for local folks pushing back on efforts to undermine the educational infrastructure and going to a lot of movies…..! with other film lovers!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – If Manchin concludes he can’t win the Senate seat, and Justice has shot himself in the foot so his chances went up, he will try to go out in a blaze of glory by running as the No Labels presidential candidate to tear down the US and re-elect Trump on his way out. Manchin is a monster.
AdLiban hour ago
Folks, TW and I were delighted to talk together about everything and anything we agreed on. Such a change from the hatred and namecalling elsewhere. Then I met Fergies nephew in Buffalo and discovered they are Trumpanistas! He is a neurologist and she a professor, FFS! Had to curb my feelings
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – That is definitely a scare! Glad it was just an allergic reaction!
AdLiban hour ago
Glenn…. have had port experience as well….good and bad sides but overall, if it works well, the good wins out.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph sounds like you’re having a busy and productive life.
glenn
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PPO you’re too kind.
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO….how can smart people be so stupid…..the power of hatred, anger, fear, anxiety to look to lies in an effort to feel better.
MurphTheSurf3
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Murph I have a funny feeling you’re having the time of your life.
twilson117
an hour ago
glenn – Yes, Chutkin is brilliant and let it look like she gave Trump and Smith wins but in the end, Trump didn’t get anything. She’s a smart cookie and Trump knows she is going to hold his feet to the fire.
AdLiban hour ago
Glenn….productive but nearly as productive in the heyday of the co-op….the ripple effect that we used to generate was truly important…..little of that now.
MurphTheSurf3
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Ad I loved when she told Dump’s lawyer his running for president is his day job and he has a responsibility to show up for court and abide by the PO she put in place
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – Exactly, she is completely in charge and will not suffer fools like Trump and his crappy lawyers. I am SO confident that we will see justice and Trump will see prison in the 1/6 case which is the most important (though Loose Cannon is doing her best to help Trump as best as she can, that trial will be slanted).
AdLiban hour ago
TW….there are certain man positive elements in my life now but I am too much of a studied observer of the underpinnings of society to be happy or comfortable where things are going.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Serious question. Does anyone really feel that Yambo has any real chance at successin 2024?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
glenn – Agree with everyone else, so good to hear you’re feeling better!
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PPO so you had to suffer through with Trump supporters, I hope you had a couple of stiff drinks after.
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO I just don’t understand people who are Trumpers. Did you find out what the attraction to him is? I talked to some of the people here and two of them are stalwart Trumper‘s. And they insist that Hunter Biden is guilty as sin of something they just don’t know what. And of course that President Biden is even more guilty. One of them keeps telling me that Biden has never had a job in his life and so where did he get all this money he has. I keep trying to explain to her that being in Congress being a vice president and being president is a job but she doesn’t seem to think so. And when I told them that the GOP hadn’t found any evidence against Hunter Biden they brought up his partner. Can’t remember his name. Anyway when I told them that the partner told them that Biden had nothing to do with the businesses, they told me that that wasn’t so. You just can’t get through to some of them.
glenn
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Murph as long as Trump and those who want to be like him are still agitating open rebellion you’re correct to be concerned.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph I can tell you miss your farming.
glenn
an hour ago
PPO….I do not think he will get re-elected but his campaign is digging deeper and deeper ruts into the body politic and the social milleu….the damage is incalculable.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – Yes, that was one of many great comments she made today. Really enjoy her professionalism and control over her cases.
AdLiban hour ago
glenn, got all of that and they hate Joe! I backed away, but it has soured my love for them as incredibly loving parents to a beautiful daughter and an adopted son. Don’t know what to do in future.
pinkpantheroz
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PPO given the way the political climate is I’m not taking anything for granted.
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO – Absolutely not, Trump has zero chance of winning the election. As CL and I keep pointing out, all the elections we’ve seen in the meantime have outperformed polls and given Dems and Progressive policies big wins as we just saw in OH on the power play to block the vote on abortion rights in Nov.
AdLiban hour ago
PPO— yeah I just don’t understand it either. We try not to talk politics too much. But I couldn’t help but smile last week when Trump was indicted and they didn’t like that one bit. Oh well
glenn
an hour ago
PPO….I h ave (had) close friends from my early days here….early members of the co-op, progressives, crusaders…..but now…..they have taken the right turn into the dark alley that is Trumpian Political Life. These are bright people who are acting like dim, sputtering bulbs. I avoid them.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad, relieved you’re so positive. RWNJ media here is crazy. I don’t believe the Press any more. I rely on Social media (with reservations) to form my opinions.
pinkpantheroz
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Glenn the folks in the tank for Trump and what to believe all that is being said about Biden’s son can’t be convinced of anything else. It’s a said thing for Joe having to see his son go through what he has but it looks like he is turning his life around and what is sad is that people can’t won’t acknowledge that.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph and PPO— We have a greed to disagree.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – There is no debating or reasoning with Trumpers. Their heads are constantly filled with lies that comfort them, they have zero interest in truth or they wouldn’t be Trumpers. And they need to hate those who are not part of their mindless cult. For folks like us, it’s hard to accept that you can’t discuss and debate truths to come to reasonable conclusions with other people.
AdLiban hour ago
AD— Boy isn’t that the truth. That you can’t come to reasonable conclusions with other people. And both of them have fox on constantly. So that doesn’t help.
glenn
an hour ago
Ad…..a pollster I read once long ago made the point that polls that look for support numbers for candidates are not really pitting candidate A to B to C but are holding the candidate up against an idealized version of what people would like to see…..thus a younger Biden who had no son and was polished in speech and interaction…..they do not really place the candidate up against his real opposition……as elections approach reality seems to awaken them to who it is they are voting FOR and AGAINST.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad, so true, but, as glenn says, I suppose I will have to agree to disagree as well. It pisses me off the the mongrel has impacted lives and destroyed friendships and relationships,as well as being a mass killer, conman and criminal.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I’m waiting for the time when Congress investigates princess pony and her husband regarding the billions the Saudis gave them.
glenn
an hour ago
PPO— yes I think that’s the saddest thing that the treasonous lying bully has done. And that is impacted lives destroyed friendships and relationships. I know this sounds harsh but I will be so glad to see that man in his grave. I hope I live long enough to see it.
glenn
an hour ago
PPO – The polls today don’t include the fact that there’s been like a 10 Million voter swing between old MAGAs dying off and young people turning 18 and eligible to vote. Add to that the greater vote percentage of women coming out against anti-abortion MAGAs including Trump, and the criminal trials against Trump will throw lots of publicity out about what a criminal and traitor Trump is. After the 1/6 committee had public hearings, Trump’s negatives skyrocketed. Now multiply that by 4. And consider the tens of millions drained from his campaign having to go to his legal fees. Trump is going down and the GOP is going down chained to him.
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All, the thing I pick up on is the inability or the unwillingness of people to try and see and appreciate what we truly have in our country in the form of governance. So many want to think that two-bit conman like Trump has what it takes to be the leader of the free world when everything went to hell in a handbasket under his 4 years.
twilson117
an hour ago
glenn, add in the brothers Grim for their part in the Yambo Family.! BTW I adopted Yambo after reading someone calling him that as a Yam-coloured Rambo!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago