Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib3 hours ago
Hey TW!
AdLib2 hours ago
Good evening Ad
twilson117
2 hours ago
So is CNN changing to TNN? Trump National Network?
AdLib2 hours ago
So much to talk about
twilson117
2 hours ago
Well, why not? It seems one of the main owners is a Libertarian and Trump supporter.
twilson117
2 hours ago
I saw clips and it was a total farce.
twilson117
2 hours ago
I have been enjoying how everyone is slapping down CNN and Anderson Cooper, who made a BS excuse for it.
AdLib2 hours ago
Well, he stepped in it with his inane comments.
twilson117
2 hours ago
And the ratings on Thursday, the following day, were actually down a little so it didn’t help them after destroying their rep.
AdLib2 hours ago
Hello! Hope you two are well
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL is in the house start the party now!!!!
twilson117
2 hours ago
Hey CL!
AdLib2 hours ago
He Ad and TW – good to see you both,
choicelady
2 hours ago
Good to be seen.
twilson117
2 hours ago
TW – if the party starts now, what’s to drink?
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL your choice.
twilson117
2 hours ago
TW – How condescending and gaslighting for Cooper to blather about people choosing to stay in “silos”. As if no one knows what a beast Trump is? After everything that’s happened in the past 7 years???
AdLib2 hours ago
TW As I think said, Greg and I both had COVID about two months or so ago. Ever since, nothing tastes good. I CAN taste things, but they’re blah. I’m looking for a good libation. Had a margarita last night w a friend. Meh. Who can’t taste THAT? I’m sad.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Ad, noticed that. But, what I also noticed was the stills that were shown of the audience not everyone was clapping that told me a lot.
twilson117
2 hours ago
TW – I did notice that. Not everyone thought Donald funny. Not at all.
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL – That’s messed up. You may have to season and flavor foods stronger for the time being. Maybe that would help?
AdLib2 hours ago
CL I was thinking Margaritas but guess that is out.
twilson117
2 hours ago
CL actually I can’t remember the last time I had one.
twilson117
2 hours ago
Ad – Anderson Cooper MIGHT be right about communication with people not like oneself, but that is NOT Trump. Trump is THE silo. We see him, hear him, are fed UP with him and his lies. I have no interest in talking to people who live in his cult and with his delusions. That’s not being in my ‘silo’ but being an active and aware American.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Ad – seasoning helps, but the receptors are quite weird. Some things are fine. Others are – meh.
choicelady
2 hours ago
TW – Did you see that CNN told the crowd not to “boo” or express any dissatisfaction at anything Trump said? That means it was rigged to only allow cheering for Trump. This totally blew up any journalistic integrity CNN had. Done and many people are deleting their app and vowing to stop watching them. And MAGAs are laughing at them and uninterested in watching them despite their sponsoring a Trump rally.
AdLib2 hours ago
CL just did a quick look up and what it said it will come back but it will take time about 18 months. 
twilson117
2 hours ago
Ad – the only legitimate reason for an audience being told not to boo Trump was to save their lives. And that didn’t seem to be at immediate risk.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Ad read that, talking about wanting to control. I also read that the Trump team pulled a fast one on CNN saying they were open to a back and forth, lies like everything Dump does.
twilson117
2 hours ago
TW – That’s what I read. Sigh. It’s not that I’ve lost taste and smell, but it’s reduced and dodgy. Even bacon and coffee seem – bland. I can’t imagine how bad it is for people who have NO taste and smell. Yikes.
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL – I agree, the concept of people not residing in news silos is legit but that was not what made people angry at CNN. We all know who Trump is, that his goal is to overthrow our democracy and that he’s committed crimes, tried to overthrow an election, stole money, sexually abused women and promotes hatred, violence and racism. There is no silo that any anti-Trump person could reside in where they don’t know who Trump is. Cooper was knowingly gaslighting and frankly, being a tool of his corporate pro-Trump masters. I am done with that fraud.
AdLib2 hours ago
CL well let’s hope it comes back sooner than what is reported out.
twilson117
2 hours ago
TW – why would CNN think Trump told the truth? He never has.
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL I know.
twilson117
2 hours ago
CL – I sure hope this is a temporary thing and that you and hubby get more of your tasting back.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – EXACTLY. We don’t live in our silo. HE does, and CNN fell for it. We aren’t the dorks here. They are.
choicelady
2 hours ago
TW – Thanks. I would like to enjoy smell and taste more again SOON.
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL – Exactly. It’s clear that Licht made a deal with Trump that catered completely to him to make it the best possible promotion for Trump that it could be. It’s pretty sick for an alleged real news entity to concoct a propagandized rally for a fascist criminal and sexual abuser.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – Greg has both smell and taste. I’m the one impaired. The problem is that I’m the cook – and without those senses it’s hard to prepare food. No clue if it’s too much, too little – weird. I’m once again wedded to the written recipe. It’s weird.
choicelady
2 hours ago
If FOX was crumbling, and CNN was crumbling, and MSNBC is growing in followers, well – Licht is emulating a losing entity. Hand writing on the wall says America is done w RW extremism.
choicelady
2 hours ago
TW – I don’t know about CNN’s claims of being “tricked”, they knew full well who he was, that he breaks most agreements he makes and that he is untrustworthy. They would’ve put in safeguards if they really wanted to keep him in check and instead, they bowed to every demand of his. CNN is on a spin campaign and spin is just another word for “lie”.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – the CNN back peddling is amazing. Their peers must have ripped Licht a new one.
choicelady
2 hours ago
All, was watching MSNBC Alex Wagner’s piece on Texas wanting to let chaplains in public schools, This goes along with bringing prayer back and if I heard correctly disciplining those who don’t participate, The last part I’m positive about but if it is true it wouldn’t surprise me as these fools are doing their best to force their Christian beliefs down people’s throats
twilson117
2 hours ago
CL – Glad hubby is okay but unhappy you have to slog through this symptom. Guess hubby gets to be taster when you cook?
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad, when you know you F**** Up you pull the I’d didn’t know execuse.
twilson117
2 hours ago
CL – Licht just set CNN on fire for any Dems or indies they might’ve hoped to attract to turn around their failing channel and MAGAs hate them because Trump programmed them for years to hate them. Nowhere for CNN to go now but down.
AdLib2 hours ago
I grew up in Wheaton, Illinois, home of Wheaton College where Billy Graham went. We were curtailed by the college’s wants – we did not have evolution courses in biology. But we did not pledge every day. We did not pray in school EVER except at special events where some opening prayer might be given. We did not have the 10 commandments. And I’m old enough not to have “under God” in the pledge as a very little kid. And nobody had apoplexy over any of it.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Ad – never thought of using Greg as the guinea pig. Good idea!
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL – From all I’ve seen, Licht is pulling a Trump, declaring that it was a great watershed moment for CNN despite many at CNN and most around the country slamming him and CNN for this. I heard he gave a verbal lashing to Oliver someone today who works there and criticized the Trump CNN Rally. He’s like Trump, claiming everyone criticizing him and CNN are “fake news”.
AdLib2 hours ago
I baby sat for two little kids across the street who were learning the Lord’s Prayer and the Pledge at the same time. They did their nightly prayer once as “Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name. They kingdom come, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” Worked for me.
choicelady
2 hours ago
TW – There have been SCOTUS decisions precisely about the constitutional restriction against putting the Ten Commandments in schools, what these TX lunatics are doing is knowingly unconstitutional and I think they think this corrupt SCOTUS will throw out the Constitution on the separation of church and state. And they may be right.
AdLib2 hours ago
CL Chistian Nationalism is just a euphuism and excuse to push their brand of religion on the masses. But, what got me laughing today was reading an article about FL banning books Where in one paragraph it banned the book because it made a reference to the Hebrew Bible. I couldn’t stop laughing for ten min.
twilson117
2 hours ago
Someone on Twitter tapped the ratings and said at the beginning of the “town hall” ratings were HUGE but by 30 minutes in, started to fall, and by an hour, back to ordinary, and by 90 minutes in the toilet. This actually did NOT work well for CNN.
choicelady
2 hours ago
TW – That is PRICELESS!!! I discovered that for a country that goes all poo face over “Judeo Christian values”, we have precious little tolerance on the Right for the Judeo part.
choicelady
2 hours ago
TW – You definitely don’t use the “We had no idea!” excuse when your business is knowing who famous political candidates and criminals are…and you definitely don’t project and accuse those who are upset with their aiding a traitor and criminal as “not wanting to know”.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad, yes, but I think with the court the way it is they will keep at until someone takes it to the SC and I think they believe court will rule in their favor and it will give them what they need to force religion – their version – down peoples throats.
twilson117
2 hours ago
Ad – that’s the damned truth.
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL – You know as all of us do that the pushing of religion into school isn’t about religion, it’s about control.
AdLib2 hours ago
CL I always say, ‘at what point did Jesus become a Christian?
twilson117
2 hours ago
CL – I’m sure hubby would happily volunteer to be the house taster.
AdLib2 hours ago
TW and Ad – growing up in a proto cristofascist community (we were Unitarian Dems – not fun for ,me at all) I have a gut level hate for pushing RW fundamentalism as THE only thing we can follow.’
choicelady
2 hours ago
Ad – it is control. Always has been.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – That’s very funny! Kids can be hilarious.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – Jesus a Christian? Never.
choicelady
an hour ago
As the babysitter, Ad, I really had to struggle not to laugh. It was wonderful!
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – “The Hebrew Bible”? Sounds like something MTG would say.
AdLiban hour ago
MTG would condemn the “Hebrew Bible” along w the Jewish Space Lasers.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad of course she would, she will never stop showing us how stupid she is.
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – I saw someone on Twitter post that there were 9 million who watched Cassidy Hutchinson at the 1/6 hearings and only 3 million who tuned into the CNN Trump Rally. They sold their soul for nothing. The greed of the RW who have taken over CNN is laughable.
AdLiban hour ago
Tw – Comer yesterday showed they had ZERO evidence of Biden corruption. Tuberville (who sounds like a Vaudeville hoofer not a Senator) said today you had to “infer” Biden’s crimes. They make HUGE allegations and ridiculous assertions only to have them all blow up in their faces.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad, yes CNN sold it’s soul, but Trump now owns them, watch he will be back and CNN will buckle to his will again. They want to be the new Fox for Trump.
twilson117
an hour ago
CNN made a really bad decision, and it will cost them.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Maybe because RW fundamentalism is so hostile, controlling and oppressive, what thoughtful person who had to live with it for a period of time wouldn’t despise it?
AdLiban hour ago
TW – what Trump said apparently is actionable both w another Carroll suit AND in the hands of Jack Smith. CNN will be called to account. They will not enjoy it.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL Tuberville needs to go back to reading x’s and o’s because that is all he is good at. What a stupid, idiot. Don’t get me started on that jerk.
twilson117
an hour ago
So…do either of you think Trump could legitimately win the presidency in 2024?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, the operative word is legitimately and now he can’t.
twilson117
an hour ago
I hope E. Jean Carroll sues Trump again for further defamation at his CNN celebration and maybe include CNN for knowing that he would absolutely slander her in their event because they didn’t push back and just let him slander.
AdLiban hour ago
In 2020 PRRI (Public Religion Research Institute) did a census of religion in America. Found the Dominionists (evangelicals, Pentecostals, fundies) have declined from 24% of the population to 13% in less than a decades. Mainline Protestants are SLIGHTLY growing. “Walkaways” from the former are THE biggest movement in religion in decades. They know they’re losing members. It’s why they’re so aggressive.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – totally agree on TT.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad he will win his primaries but not the general. What do you think about Santos sponsoring a bill and voting for it on unemployment which is one of the charges the Feds have hit him with.
twilson117
an hour ago
We should know early this coming week if Ms. Carroll will sue. I hope she does.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – Santos voting on that bill is crap. But nothing has made me happier than his Grand Jury indictment because NO ONE KNEW that was happening. So the Jan. 6 co conspirators who think they would KNOW they were being investigated must be pooping their pants realizing nope – they might not know it at all.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – Exactly why I used “legitimately”. I think Trump and Repubs will lose even bigger in 2024, whether or not there is a Trump-helping 3rd party No Labels candidate like Manchin in the race. Trump will have multiple criminal indictments by Nov 2024 and no way Dems or Indies will be happily voting for him then.
AdLiban hour ago
All, I see Desantos has rigged the legislature to pass a bill so he doesn’t have to report out his expense spending, Talking about ignore that states sunshine laws.
twilson117
an hour ago
Those favoring RFK, Jr are very thin upon the ground, too. He killed his chances by cuddling up with Bannon and Stone among others.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – passing the bill is “too little, too late” because the law in place at the time of the crime prevails. He can’t save his butt now he’s been indicted.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL RFK, Jr is a certifiable nut job no one here takes him seriously.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – I met him in 1972 and was appalled. He was on heroin then, and it showed. He was just dreadful.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL which is why no one takes him seriously.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – you know the Southern expression “That boy ain’t right!” Even as a Yankee we thought that then of RFK, Jr.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – I think all the RW FUndies are digging their own graves by forcing their despised laws on a growing majority that opposes them. A candidate in TX or FL who comes in to wipe out the madness will eventually arise, just don’t know how long that will take but it seems inevitable. These extremist laws stink of desperation, they know their time is running out and they’re trying to rig the states to oppress and dominate the majority.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – Santos is Dead Man Walking and everyone knows it but McCarthy needs his vote desperately so he won’t cut him loose. The party of criminals represented by Santos and Trump is shrinking day by day.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – perfect term: desperation. This is their swan song they think. It’s actually the band playing on the Titanic as it goes down. They have no hope of sustaining their corrupt view of religion
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
Well, I think folks need to pay attention to what the states are doing with some of these laws they are drafting up and trying to pass.
twilson117
an hour ago
MURPH!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
Very late to the party…..so sorry……things her in Mo are nasty.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph is in the house.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – what’s going on>:>>
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph what is going on?
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – what’s going on ??? fumble fingers tonight.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Same here, hoping Carroll sues him again, she’s bound to win with just using all the same evidence and testimony. Keep draining that monster of his money.
AdLiban hour ago
What’s going on there, Murph?
AdLiban hour ago
The bills to persecute transgender kids, to transform public schools into christian academies, to weaken the already weak medicaid system, the voter suppression efforts subtle and not at all subtle, the resurgence of Trumpian activism, and so much more.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
It has become “a thing” to question neighbors about their lack of Trump Display as unAmerican.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – what do you think that means for Kunce? I’ve given up hope your state legislature will see reason.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – I’ve been aware of the bills and am sickened by them. But what is your take on the state population as a whole in reaction?
choicelady
an hour ago
OH…and then there is the abandonment of women needing reproductive health care…..grrrrrrrrrr. As to Kunce….he is pushing back but the field is being set up to rob anyone like him of victory even when he secures one.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL….people here are by and large “go with flow folk” and that flow is right into the sewers.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – The scariest thing you mentioned is the fascism of checking on neighbors who refuse to put a Nazi flag…er…Trump Flag on their house or car. That is straight up Nazi playbook.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph, so the lack of Trump display is seen as un-American? So they want to deny peoples right to free speech and privacy of who they vote for? Have they started goose stepping yet?
twilson117
an hour ago
The last of the three black families who were a part of the co-op/association have decided to leave the state. CO-OP….RIP.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – How are they rigging the election against Kunce?
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – DAMN. I am aware for DECADES that MO has a deep RW base. My mother’s maternal side were abolitionists and liberals, but my maternal grandfather, a prof of English at University of Omaha, was I think an America First sympathizer. My grandmother left him over it.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad and TW….I think you have an accurate assessment of the situation. Seig Heel!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Oh, Murph – how scary they can’t even LIVE there!
choicelady
an hour ago
My grandfather was born and raised in Auburn, Gentry County.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – Yes, you mentioned the black families were leaving the co-op and the state. There’s no argument to make to convince them to stay in a state that is becoming so bigoted and fascist.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad…..Kunce has a very limited financial base and it is being threatened….poll control will limit turnout….and control of the polls will tilt the results….efforts to shut down college age voting and to limit minority access to the polls….
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – what is YOUR plan? Will YOU also leave? I think it might be time.
choicelady
an hour ago
Each of you has a profound grasp on the very nasty reality here.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph do you plan on staying???
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – That is horrible. If democracy isn’t already dead in MO, it’s having its last gasps.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – I lived in TN in 1968. Was there when Rev.Dr. King was murdered. I’ve seen the horror of Southern viciousness with my own eyes. And I was scared living there.
choicelady
an hour ago
MO is now as bad as TN was then.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL….I am stuck….I have property that will not sell (land, out buildings, house) but I am in no danger esp now that efforts have been neutered. I am, as a neighbors has gloatingly told me, :”neutered.”
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Have to jump in as well with concerns for your staying in the state. It could get a lot worse in MO than any of us think right now.
AdLiban hour ago
TW…thanks for asking about my plans…..refer to my response to CL
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Why won’t your property sell?
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad…again, I appreciate your concern, my note to Choice takes it all into account….
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
I can see MO keeping Fleet Foot Hawley, but when – and he will – Biden wins, I fear for you.
choicelady
an hour ago
Cl…there is a LOT of land available here…….and I would lose my short.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Hah….shirt
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Damn. I’m so sorry.
choicelady
an hour ago
Shirt, short, whatever – that’s just awful.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph sorry to hear that, but, I have a feeling you have a plan.
twilson117
an hour ago
FL, TX, TN, MO, AL, AR are all moving quickly into Christo-fascism. Once they’ve setup their theocracies/autocracies, it may become very difficult for those remaining to leave.
AdLiban hour ago
Here is the thing…..most, nearly all, of my neighbors like me on a personal level, and I am a strong community supporter (church member, civically active…..) just “misguided” so now that my “commune” is no longer a threat neither am I.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Part of my family is from NE – where I was born – and cristofascism isn’t nearly as successful there, surprisingly.
choicelady
an hour ago
Did you hear about the TX man who shot and killed his girlfriend for going out of state to get an abortion? I can imagine TX refusing to prosecute him. So what happens when those not conforming to the state’s fascism can be attacked or killed with no ramifications?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, it’s like I said they know what they are doing in the religious area is against the constitution, but they believe the court will side with the when it gets up the SC and at some point it will.
twilson117
an hour ago
CL….I think that “plains people” have a powerful draw toward independence and NO ONE is going to push them into being part of a parade.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad – look at Abbott promising to pardon the man who shot and killed the BLM protester.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL…Abbot…speaking of fascist.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – absolutely true. I am Plains to the bone even though I grew up outside of Chicago.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph _ you know history, it always starts off with the ones who don’t fit in being tolerated but that can change in a fascist state.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – he and DeSantis are vying for Best Nazi of the Week.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL…I have friends in Montana who are the same/
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL…I agree but choices are limited, lady choice.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – True indeed!
AdLiban hour ago
I am hoping this holds for John Tester whom I like VERY much.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – bummer.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph you co-opt may be gone, but your skill with a keyboard is not. It’s time to come up with a pen name for you.
twilson117
an hour ago
CL….but again….I am regarded as a good, though addled guy, and my political activism is generally under cover.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – Yes but once all the racist/Nazi/death threat stuff came out about that murderer, Abbott’s been unusually silent about pardoning him.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – I think “Murph the Surf” is his pen name. He just needs a new one!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL true.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – maybe so, but three days ago I read Abbott reaffirmed the pardon.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW….what “murphthesurf3” is not catchy enough?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – too well known!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
Well, choice, everyone I have supported here in the state has lost which makes me a “sad sort of lib”
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – is thare a Murph 1 and 2?
choicelady
an hour ago
CL…you are way too insightful.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – I didn’t see that. Abbott is such an evil, hateful beast. Who wins in the Most Disgusting Excuse of a Human Being? Trump, Abbott, DeSantis, MTG? Someone else?
AdLiban hour ago
I have a good friend, a women, a scholar, an academic leader….in other words a CL-Like Person…..and she is taking the same road I am.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph I was under the impression they might have figured that was you, but, based on what you’ve told me about some of these folks I have to ask, what are their reading skills, because from what you told me their analytical comprehension skills are not high. l
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – that was my track record for years. Nearly plotzed when Clinton won after years of not really getting anyone. Not fond of Carter in those days, so the 1976 win wasn’t satisfying.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW….nailed it…and the use of Murph, is like using “Irish” as a pen name, my identity is well layered.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
So do we think that we are seeing the fruition of a balkanized US, where the Red states become christofascist hellholes that have braindrains and business drains and places where more leave than come to? I mean, what business in their right mind would move to FL or TX now?
AdLiban hour ago
TW…so you know the neighbors, do you?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph 
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad…..one of the major job makers here, St. Louis U. is pulling back on its projects…..I think that its leaders see what you see.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Not to mention the sharp declines in the quality in educations that christofascist states like FL and TX will experience. Quality teachers and professors will work in blue state colleges, teacher shortages are already a huge problem in TX and FL, it will only get worse.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – I do think that is happening, and the only way out is to let them stew in their own juice. But that makes POC and liberals sitting ducks there. Blue states w Red areas don’t tend to kill their Red neighbors. Red states do. I fear for everyone in cristofascist states.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – I fear for higher ed in MO seeing what is happening in other fascist states.
choicelady
an hour ago
I just sent some cash to the Florida New College Go Fund Me for the alternative graduation its seniors are planning. That school will disappear in a very short time. NO ONE will go there from either side.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph so with the push for Christain based schools sounds like they want to kill all public based education.
twilson117
an hour ago
I have the dubious distinction of being invited back in the day to join New School. I did not go, but I have long paid attention to it. To see that rather grand institution under the gun is disgusting.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW…..public education is by its nature pluralistic which is not what totalitarians find useful.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – Imagine trying to recruit teachers, professors or business professionals with children to any of these states. With open carry, mass shootings every week, no rights for women over their pregnancies if raped, what worthy hire would do that to their family and move to any of these states. I purposely made sure my daughter wouldn’t go to any Red state for college, I have to think post-Dobbs, that’s going on a lot more.
AdLiban hour ago
All, I’m just wondering if there is an uptick in red robes and white bonnets in these red states.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph which is why they are trying to crush it in your state, and others that have off the rail Republican Gov.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad…prophetic…Mizzou here had landed a trifecta of fantastic Econ profs to start next fall….all have withdrawn.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – Agreed, blue dots in red states could be under serious threat. Right now, if you’re a PoC, LGBTQ, a school child, or a women, these states are especially dangerous for you. And that list will only grow. Add Jewish to that too, come to think of it.
AdLiban hour ago
Part of me wants street theater pushback. WOMEN openly carrying, women without ova (did they think this out?) who cannot use women’s rooms crashing the men’s room in groups, using the stalls then hanging around doing make up and hair, gossiping, while they guys try to use the urinals. Malicious compliance – name of my game.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – ADD liberal, wrong form of Christian, anything the cristofascists hate. Everyone is a target.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW…..CL…..Ad…oh, how I long for my Lysistra Women.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – where ARE the Lysistrata Ladies?
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph the colleges in your state will be graduating students soon, but the question is, are enrollments down with what is taking place in the state?
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – Very cool, I hadn’t heard about the Go Fund Me for New College. I feel awful for those poor students being sabotaged by DeSantis and Rufo. I’ll check it out and contribute too.
AdLiban hour ago
AND>…ALLL of this horror….comes down to the loss of Hillary Rodham Clinton….the cornerstone of the GOP Fascist rise.
MurphTheSurf3
44 minutes ago
Murph is any of this being reported out in the news?
twilson117
44 minutes ago
Murph – spot ON. And more evidence every day that she di NOT ACTUALLY LOSE.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
CL…there were five of them….three are gone, one in a nursing home, and one commiserating with me.
MurphTheSurf3
44 minutes ago
Murph – I am so sorry. They kicked butt! I’m so sad they’re no longer a force of nature for you.
choicelady
43 minutes ago
TW – our press is very limited here and fragile…so not a lot.
MurphTheSurf3
43 minutes ago
TW – Good one! The red robes and white bonnets are already in those red states, including ID where they can’t even leave the state and are prisoners forced to have birth. That is happening right now!
AdLib43 minutes ago
Thanks Ad….the “kids” need all of the support they can get.
MurphTheSurf3
42 minutes ago
One of the things I have done is to mask my internet work via VPN’s….right now I am writing to you from Columbia.
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
Murph – That’s interesting to hear about the professors withdrawing. I think you’ll see a big brain drain over the next few years from professors to scientists to graduates who want to build a life where they can have a family free from state oppression.
AdLib41 minutes ago
Murph that’s smart on your part.
twilson117
40 minutes ago
Ad…..the group. was recruited one by one but they have joined arms and will not be seen as tools of the right.
MurphTheSurf3
40 minutes ago
Murph what main industries are located in the state?
twilson117
39 minutes ago
Ad – I have been counseling ID prochoice people to hook up with WA and OR liberal churches who will offer “Youth Rallies for Faith” and validate vans of kids heading their way. I see such vans on I-5 with soaped windows going to “Youth for Jesus” movements. Pack the car with boys and girls – the latter needing abortions – and food, drink, flyers, and a destination. The church will authenticate the “event” once a month – different churches, different towns and states. Different roads coming and going. You could get a SHITLOAD of patients out if ID that way.
choicelady
39 minutes ago
Correction – OUT OF Idaho…
choicelady
39 minutes ago
Murph – Just so you know, your IP now is showing St Louis in the right panel of the Vox window.
AdLib39 minutes ago
CL….what a fantastic set of ideas and actions…..I need to look into this.
MurphTheSurf3
38 minutes ago
Ad….yes….yours would but yours is validated for accuracy in reporting so you are accurate at the point of exit but prior to that my signal has bounced….I had a computer guru create a protocol for me.
MurphTheSurf3
37 minutes ago
Murph – That’s great to hear. The New College students are literally under assault along with professors there, I’m not surprised that these remarkable young people are standing up against this oppression.
AdLib37 minutes ago
Murph – I have been advocating this for several months now. Hope the clinics have ties w the progressive faith churches, denominations to get this set up. UCC one month. Methodist the next. Lutheran. Episcopalian, Disciples. Have Bibles, hymn books, etc. Not much they can do about it.
choicelady
37 minutes ago
CL – You mentioned that strategy and I think it’s brilliant! A great way to create a modern day Underground Railroad for raped and pregnant teens in ID.
AdLib36 minutes ago
CL…I have hooked up with a Methodist Pastor here, a woman who I respect immensely. I need to cue her into this.
MurphTheSurf3
36 minutes ago
MO could do it in Illinois, and with help from Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, you can find friendly congregations they can educate and mobilize.
choicelady
36 minutes ago
RCRC.org\
choicelady
36 minutes ago
CHOICE….HAVE I TOLD YOU LATELY (AND TW AND AD) HOW MUCH I ADMIRE YOU ALL AND SOOOOO VALUE YOUR FRIENDSHIP., WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE….
MurphTheSurf3
34 minutes ago
Murph – Interesting. VPNs are a good idea to use in a state or country where there’s a lot of oppression. A good safeguard.
AdLib34 minutes ago
AD…per my guru….it is a matter of setting up “shadow profiles”-
MurphTheSurf3
33 minutes ago
Murph – with the split in the Methodist churches, you have to be VERY careful about which ones in IL you pick. You have to have UMC affiliated with the Board of Church and Society AND make sure they are prochoice. In 1992, a UMC church gave us sanctuary for women waiting to enter clinics during the siege of Buffalo. It was a profound experience w women clergy DRIVING women into the besieged clinic. I lived this. I’d be happy to talk to anyone you trust about it.
choicelady
33 minutes ago
Murph – Back at you and CL and TW.
AdLib33 minutes ago
Murph appreciate you saying that.
twilson117
33 minutes ago
Murph – I’ve been told I have a shadow profile…especially when I’m in the spotlight.
AdLib33 minutes ago
Murph – HAVE WE TOLD YOU RECENTLY HOW MUCH WE ADMIRE YOUR COURAGE LIVING IN THE HEART OF DARKNESS AND STANDING SO TALL???
choicelady
32 minutes ago
CL…..I know that my pastor is lined up with those you recommend.
MurphTheSurf3
32 minutes ago
CL….oh, my…..
MurphTheSurf3
32 minutes ago
Murph – perfect. She may well know where to go in IL.
choicelady
32 minutes ago
My address…… Heart of Darkness, Mo. Yeah, that works.
MurphTheSurf3
32 minutes ago
Heh!
AdLib31 minutes ago
CL…would it surprise you to know….that we have made the journey already.
MurphTheSurf3
31 minutes ago
I can do research on other denominations in IL for you all to contact.
choicelady
31 minutes ago
Maybe we should mount a mission to smuggle Murph out of MO?
AdLib31 minutes ago
Ad, we may have to do that.
twilson117
30 minutes ago
Murph – NO. It would not surprise me. This may not yet be necessary in MO unless they go the “travel ban” way, too. And they probably will.
choicelady
30 minutes ago
CL….I actually think that Donna may have a handle on multiple options…she reminds me of you…I invited her here to meet you.
MurphTheSurf3
30 minutes ago
BTW, you realize that they said Fani Willis is likely to indict in May. Guess what month it is?
AdLib30 minutes ago
Ad….how Chivalrous of you.
MurphTheSurf3
30 minutes ago
Murph – I would be more than happy to meet her. I will write via email and give you my number. I’d LOVE to talk with her! Methodist women ROCK!
choicelady
29 minutes ago
Ad, are you saying she will do it this mouth?
twilson117
29 minutes ago
Murph – Think of it like a heist movie. We’ll call it “Get Murphy”!
AdLib29 minutes ago
Hell – I’d go to Mo and smuggle Murph out. No problem.
choicelady
28 minutes ago
CL…missouri is terribly dependent Il in many ways and the governor of Il is a lion of a man. He has apparently scared the shit out of our gov re. efforts to secure the border from this side.
MurphTheSurf3
28 minutes ago
Sorry – my grandfather was from ALBANY, Gentry County.
choicelady
28 minutes ago
Ad, instead of the Italian Job, the Murph Job.
twilson117
28 minutes ago
CL…I will pass it along.
MurphTheSurf3
28 minutes ago
TW – That’s the word that came out last month, that Willis was likely to indict this month. Only thing is, she just got 8 of the phony electors to make plea deals so she may have a bit more evidence to track down first.
AdLib28 minutes ago
OK….you guys, your conspiratorial thoughts are most uplifting.
MurphTheSurf3
27 minutes ago
Murph – LOL! I LOVE Pritzker! He’s got the guts of Daly and the heart of Obama. MY kind of guy!
choicelady
27 minutes ago
Ad, okay.
twilson117
27 minutes ago
TW – Escape From the Planet of the Cro-Magnons?
AdLib27 minutes ago
CL, I agree with your assessment of the Man from Ill.
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
Ad, Like that one.
twilson117
26 minutes ago
Mission Possible.
AdLib26 minutes ago
Ad – I think you give today’s GOP way too much credit. Troglodytes.
choicelady
26 minutes ago
CL – That works for me!
AdLib26 minutes ago
GAWD Almighty isn’t this F-U-N
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
Ad Missouri Possible
twilson117
26 minutes ago
Ad, your mission should you decided to accept it
twilson117
25 minutes ago
Escape From MO?
AdLib25 minutes ago
Ad your mission is to contact Tom Cruise and get him to Play Murph.
twilson117
25 minutes ago
Side story….I know our country sheriff rather well, a good hearted man….and he and. his deputies use my property for a variety of “scenarios” in practice. They think I am deluded, but an ok guy.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
I have spent weeks surrounded by RW thugs. Been beaten, tripped, hit, spat on, hair pulled – and I live for revenge via stealth and conspiracy. I’m not all that afraid of physical violence even at my age, but outwitting them just seems easier.
choicelady
24 minutes ago
TW….Tom Cruise playing ME…..oh, the. horror….for both of us.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
Imagine this with the St. Louis Arch instead.
AdLib23 minutes ago
I have the same relationship with cops. Mostly now gone in NY, but ferreting out the good ones is important.
choicelady
23 minutes ago
Ad _ LOVE IT!
choicelady
23 minutes ago
Ad nice one
twilson117
23 minutes ago
Murph Tom would do a good job don’t you think?
twilson117
23 minutes ago
Escape from Show Me
MurphTheSurf3
22 minutes ago
TW……yeah, we could be mistaken for identical twins………….I gotta stop drinking when I am logged into the Planet.
MurphTheSurf3
22 minutes ago
I think Murph would sign off on being played by Tom Cruise.
AdLib22 minutes ago
And in the sequel, Murph’s plane gets diverted to FL and we have to help him escape DeSantis’ private army.
AdLib20 minutes ago
Just looked at Planned Parenthood in IL – lots of downstate though not FAR downstate – clinics. Now to pick some and find churches… This we can do. Will take time, but we CAN do it. then look for independent providers. Same thing.
choicelady
20 minutes ago
The Magnificent Three.
AdLib20 minutes ago
Ad – I can even ride a horse. I can see us saddled up and leading the wagon train!
choicelady
20 minutes ago
Ad, TW and CL…..you are all good hearted…..wonderfully supportive, incredibly intelligent, and marvelously deranged.
MurphTheSurf3
20 minutes ago
Murph instead of Ethan Hunt he would put on his Jack Reacher persona
twilson117
20 minutes ago
CL – That would be fantastic if women in MO could have a path to go to PP in IL.
AdLib19 minutes ago
MurphTheSurf3
18 minutes ago
Murph derangement is my specialty
twilson117
18 minutes ago
CL – I can ride a horse too! TW and Murph? Can you ride horses? Cause that’s all we got on this mission!
AdLib18 minutes ago
MO Better Blues.
AdLib18 minutes ago
Ad no, but I can drive a car with lots of horse power
twilson117
18 minutes ago
Murph – it’s the ‘deranged’ part that gets things done. TW -I could go with Jack Reacher. Relentless, determined, unstoppable.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
Ad…..as a matter of fact….being a farmer on a wide range…riding a horse is a very good skill to have
MurphTheSurf3
17 minutes ago
Ad – LOVE that: MO Better blues!
choicelady
17 minutes ago
AdLib17 minutes ago
TW – you have the more immediately practical skill we need!
choicelady
17 minutes ago
Ad…you are just too skilled at that sort of thing….
MurphTheSurf3
16 minutes ago
TW – You may have to drive the horse-driven wagon!
AdLib16 minutes ago
Ad you found that fast.
twilson117
16 minutes ago
OK guys – this is solid. Murph I will send my phone number. You and or Donna may call any time.
choicelady
16 minutes ago
Ad great sound track
twilson117
16 minutes ago
CL….I am honored….how kind of you.
MurphTheSurf3
15 minutes ago
All – don’t forget that PPO is coming to San Francisco and we’re meeting up on July 6. If you have nothing better to spend your money on, we’d love to see you.
choicelady
15 minutes ago
I would love to join you all, but……….
MurphTheSurf3
15 minutes ago
Murph – I assumed you’d know how to ride and I assumed my fellow city-dweller TW might not. But for whatever reason, my parents took me riding here and there along the way.
AdLib15 minutes ago
TW – Yep, great little movie!
AdLib14 minutes ago
CL give PPO my regards, granddaughter will be here right around that time.
twilson117
14 minutes ago
Ad, I do not claim to be a “wrangler” but I am a reasonable “cowpoke”
MurphTheSurf3
14 minutes ago
I am fading out again. Love you all. GREAT conversation and “event planning” here. We will get this done!
choicelady
14 minutes ago
Murph – But…they won’t let you out of the state? Especially to go to liberal SFO?
AdLib14 minutes ago
CL take care good seeing you hear tonight.
twilson117
13 minutes ago
Oh, friends if only we were all neighbors….in the real world.
MurphTheSurf3
13 minutes ago
Good night – see you next week. Hugs to my co conspirators.
choicelady
13 minutes ago
Murph yes we are.
twilson117
13 minutes ago
Ad….a question of resources and security.
MurphTheSurf3
13 minutes ago
Night CL!
AdLib13 minutes ago
Just missed her!
AdLib13 minutes ago
Murph – Right, I get it.
AdLib13 minutes ago
Ad…I keep saying this to you…I am so grateful for your stewardship of this little piece of rationality and respect called Planet POC
MurphTheSurf3
12 minutes ago
POV
MurphTheSurf3
12 minutes ago
Well, we are all friends in the real world, even if not geographically neighbors.
AdLib12 minutes ago
Murph – And I’m grateful it’s led to being friends and getting together with you, CL, TW and everyone else. I feel fortunate.
AdLib11 minutes ago
All, agree
twilson117
11 minutes ago
We do “chat” weekly, more often than I do with friends in town or family.
AdLib11 minutes ago
So not too bad at all!
AdLib10 minutes ago
Now I just have to figure out how to get both of you out to SFO in July.
AdLib10 minutes ago
So many have so few (if any) to speak truth to and to be joined in genuine reflection but no we who reside here.
MurphTheSurf3
10 minutes ago
I need to depart but I am appreciative of your kind thoughts and concern.
MurphTheSurf3
9 minutes ago
It is valuable to have such good, conscientious and just plain smart friends to be able to discuss whatever concerns us.
AdLib9 minutes ago
Ad as much as I would like to our Granddaughter that’s the time when the Granddaughter comes out for her visit.
twilson117
9 minutes ago
Night Murph!
AdLib8 minutes ago
Take care Murph
twilson117
8 minutes ago
TW – So bring the grandaughter to SFO then LA.
AdLib8 minutes ago
Lots to do here.
AdLib8 minutes ago
Ad don’t think the wife would go for that, but it’s a thought.
twilson117
7 minutes ago
She wouldn’t want to come out here on a vacation?
AdLib7 minutes ago
Fare Thee Well.
MurphTheSurf3
7 minutes ago
Have a great weekend Murph!
AdLib6 minutes ago
Take care Murph
twilson117
6 minutes ago
Ok who’s turn is it to call?
twilson117
5 minutes ago
Good question. I’ll call!
AdLib4 minutes ago
Ok
twilson117
4 minutes ago
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