Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you here! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey TW! AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey AdLib just wanted to pop in and wish you a Happy New Year and let you know I won’t be on the chat tonight. I got my boosters shot yesterday and I’m a bit out of it and won’t be much a contributor. So will see you next week. Before I go how does your daughter like the snow? twilson117 2 hours ago

Sorry to hear you’re not feeling great. Which booster did you get? AdLib 2 hours ago

Moderna twilson117 2 hours ago

My daughter doesn’t start the semester until the 3rd week in January so she still is here in LA. It will be a culture shock for her to be in snow suddenly. AdLib 2 hours ago

My wife and I got Moderna too and we felt ill for a day or so. My daughter got Pfizer and was fine so I wonder if Moderna is tougher or just a coincidence. AdLib 2 hours ago

Well I sure she was watching the news about it. Trust me the snow will be here when she gets back. twilson117 2 hours ago

Or just being 18 helps. AdLib 2 hours ago

She wanted to be in the snow, it was exotic to her. So I think she’ll enjoy it. AdLib 2 hours ago

Yeah I wonder that about the monderna as well. twilson117 2 hours ago

From what I’ve read, Moderna is supposed to be a little more effective and longer lasting than Pfizer but not feeling ill from it is a plus. AdLib 2 hours ago

As you can see I’m a bit out of I misspelled modnera so I’ going to sit in my easy chair listen to some tones and go to bed later. twilson117 2 hours ago

Rest my friend and feel better soon! AdLib 2 hours ago

You should be better tomorrow. AdLib 2 hours ago

Tell everyone I wish them Happy New Year and looking forward next week’s discussion. twilson117 2 hours ago

Take Care. twilson117 2 hours ago

I will pass that along to everyone from you! You take care too, see you next week! AdLib 2 hours ago

Later. twilson117 2 hours ago

Seeya! AdLib 2 hours ago

Well….here I am…nice chatting with you earlier. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hey! AdLib an hour ago

Surreal at all? AdLib an hour ago

Surreal? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

BTW, I posted your email on Short Posts, here’s the link you can share with folks here: https://planetpov.com/2013/01/17/short-posts/#comment-255400 AdLib an hour ago

Well, talking as real people then on a live chat in our Planet Personas. AdLib an hour ago

AH!….I am a bit rusty. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

So if Schumer fails to pass voting rights in The Senate, shouldn’t he be removed as Majority Leader? AdLib an hour ago

Hey CL! AdLib an hour ago

MURPH!!! Hi Ad!!! Happy New Year to you both. choicelady an hour ago

One of the debates going in groups like the one I was with on 1/6 is whether mounting challenges in states like Mo. may be the idealistic move but it is not the realistic one…..that we are better used if we are working where there is enough of an edge to make victory for Dems possible? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Thanks CL! Happy New Year to you too! AdLib an hour ago

Hi there, choice…….Ad posted something I wrote today re. how I spent January 6……I guess I am back in the fray. https://planetpov.com/2013/01/17/short-posts/#comment-255400 MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

That’s an important debate to have. What do you think? AdLib an hour ago

Murph – I see the DOJ filing challenges to corrupt anti voting laws in states where the edge is real – TX, WI among them. He already got WI to roll back its corrupt gerrymandered map and accept what the voters did in a citizens’ commission. WI matters. Maybe MO does not. choicelady an hour ago

I have not pondered it sufficiently. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL…agree. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Because depending on the case, precedents may carry over to states such as MO anyway. Why fight there when the probability of winning and doing the most good is elsewhere. choicelady an hour ago

I think the battleground districts and states should get the majority of resources but there needs to be a lifeline for Dem orgs in red states. Just like in GA, red states can slide into the blue, at least in districts if not statewide, so we do have to keep a presence in all 50 states. AdLib an hour ago

I get that a wider path is philosophically justified, but logistically? Remember I worked for the Obama campaign in several red states where he needed to win the Primary but as soon as he did we packed up and moved to Purple and Blue states. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I think there is a world of difference between legal challenges and political ones. I am all for a full court legal press, but yes, one picks the effectiveness of fights politically. choicelady an hour ago

CL….that is my initial thought on this, two days after the meeting in Jeff City. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad….your perspective is in keeping with my experience in the Obama campagin. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

MO is in a democracy nose dive right now. Greitens, an abuser of women, is at 51% support in the polls to be the next Gov. Hate to say it Murph but MO hasn’t hit bottom yet. AdLib an hour ago

Ad….we are definite sliding into the abyss…..one of the reasons I do not want too high a profile. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I think the Jan. 6 Commottee and DOJ are tightening the net – and I think Hawley will be one of the fish. Might open some eyes. choicelady an hour ago

Greitens has successfully paired himself with Trump. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – You know how I feel about the impossibility of changing the minds of cultist Trumpers/Repubs. Resources are far bvetter spent on GOTV on swing districts with voters already prepared to vote Dem. AdLib an hour ago

Is there a Dem running, Murph? choicelady an hour ago

Hawley is in the spotlight MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad….and I have to remember that the Democratic Party here has the preservation of their identity and presence…..no matter how week…but for the rank and file……the argument I, you and Choice are making is cogent. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – After the 1/6 “celebration” of last year’s insurgency in the MO Legislature yesterday, I think MO is already a “New Confedrate State” now. Along with TX and other red states. We are in a Civil War now of a different kind but it is underway. AdLib an hour ago

Hawley, Parson, Greitens, MO politics is a genuine sewer and they are drowning the state. AdLib an hour ago

Ad….I think that the Dems hoped that the anointing of Grietens and Hawley would create a backlash even among GOP who are not red dogs….but I do not see it. I think any Dem is a lamb to the slaughter. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad…your summary is one with which I agree…..the Confederate States of Modern America are forming. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

As the state of my forefather (grandfather), it both pains me and doesn’t surprise me. My grandmother was a firebrand liberal from TN by way of IL. But my grandfather was a rabid anti Semite, racist, and German sympathizer. I see his roots are not yet dead in MO politics. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – I think it is the only way to get results. Dems should have learned by now that it is a waste of money to try and chase after Repubs to vote Dem. They are literally killing themselves with Covid to “own the libs”. These are suicide bomber types, not rational people who will listen to reason. AdLib an hour ago

Where could be used…practically speaking. In 2008 I was done with my academic career and had not decided where I wanted to end up…so being a roving organizer was possible….and I did not need to be paid. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Mo. identity as a Democratic State is rooted in the KKK….. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I think Biden put paid to any idea of pursuing the Kamikaze Right yesterday – the residual good GOP sure. They are so scarce now you can count them on both hands. But he made it clear – we don’t negotiate with terrorists. choicelady an hour ago

Ad…..I have been saying that GOP are setting fires in their own houses…why should we form a fire brigade. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – The same party that held up Rittenhouse and the guy who called up Biden’s Santa calls with kids who essentially said “Fuck you” to him, as heroes and great men. Greitens is probably more popular because he’s a “bad boy” with Repubs in MO. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – isn’t the entire South “Dem by Destruction” from pro slavery days? choicelady an hour ago

CL….Biden’s speech yesterday was a masterwork. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – I think it’s the best strategy to follow Obama’s directive: When your enemy is destroying himself, get out of the way. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – yes it was. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – I’d say The New Confederacy has already formed, they are now just cementing themselves into power with levers of oppression now. AdLib an hour ago