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Vox Populi – 08-13-2021

August 13, 2021

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey AdLIb I know I’m early but thought I would jump in and say Happy Friday 13th and I’m still wating for the news the moving trucks should up at the WH moving Bidnen out in Trump** oh wait it’s not happening!!

twilson117 2 hours ago

Hey TW! Maybe we can get Trump thinking he’s being re-instated but drive him up to the prison gates and let him rush in? AdLib an hour ago

If Trump runs in 2024, will he have the My Pillow guy as his VP? AdLib an hour ago

Hey PPO! AdLib an hour ago

Well he is used to his organe color so an organe jump suit would match his complexion. twilson117 an hour ago

Hey PPO twilson117 an hour ago

Hi Ad, TW. How many cheeseburgers has the WH catering ordered? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

The last I checked PPO 0 twilson117 an hour ago

TW – With his orange face, Trump would look like just a pair of eyes in his prison jumpsuit. AdLib an hour ago

Well we’re only 2 months away from Holloween twilson117 an hour ago

PPO – They’ve emptied out the local McDonalds, cold, nasty burgers for everyone! It’s Reinstallation Day! AdLib an hour ago

A bit of news from Fergie and me. We squashed our terrors, seeing how deadly the Delta strain is, and went Friday and got our first AZ shots. No bad effects yet and hopefully never. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – That’s great news! AdLib an hour ago

Hey PPO good to hear twilson117 an hour ago

PPO – So it’s been a week since you both had your shots? AdLib an hour ago

Thanks folks, it was getting just too risky not to have anything at all.AZ is the only one available for over 60s! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Nope, ad, yesterday (here!) pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Hiya Murph! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Hey Murph twilson117 an hour ago

Happy Reinstatement Day!

MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – Definitely, it’s risky nowadays and so much better to be vaccinated. It has definitely reduced my stress about catching COVID since getting it. AdLib an hour ago

I am happy. Biden is in the WH and Trump is not. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago

Yeah were are the party favors and beer twilson117 an hour ago

We get shots #2 in 12 weeks. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – So it’s been a day and no reaction to it, that’s so good to hear. AdLib an hour ago

So why did Mike Lindell pick Friday the 13th as the “lucky” day for Trump? AdLib an hour ago

You have to wait 12 weeks?? twilson117 an hour ago

OK….Ad….talk me in off the ledge…..Is Newsom going to be recalled with a GOP lackey taking his place having the power to appoint a Senator if your Senior Senator is no longer in place. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO why does Lindell do anything he does? twilson117 an hour ago

tw, apparently so. supposedly better for long term protection. I don’t have a clue. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – Right now, the polls are showing the recall as being close but the campaign is just starting from Newsom, Biden and the Dem Party to energize folks to vote no on impeachment. Biden and Harris are both coming out here and a ton of money is about to drop to support Newsom. It shouldn’t be that close as of now, I question the polling’s accuracy but the campaign for Newsom will start pushing up the vote for him I think. The average Californian has positive opinions of him but it’s all about getting people to return their mail-in ballot. AdLib an hour ago

PPO wow, wife and I had a 4 week maybe it was 5 wait for the second shot but we had the moderna twilson117 an hour ago

PPO – That does seem like a much longer time but I had heard a longer period between shots could be better in it lasting longer. Still, we have a 2 week margin, 12 weeks seems a bit long. AdLib an hour ago

Ad….I trust your wisdom in this. I have admired Newsom for a long time and see the recall as another indicator of how loathsome the GOP has become….a party of assassins. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW, yes it is different for each brand pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Hey all! Good to see you. choicelady an hour ago

PPO what’s important you now have it twilson117 an hour ago

Hey CL twilson117 an hour ago

My primary care physician is among the smartest people I know….he is urging caution re. the Booster shots until the CDC further defines who needs to get it (i.e. as a result of their immune systems status). MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – I’m sorry you have to wait, but yes, it’s good to HAVE it. choicelady an hour ago

Hi cl! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Hey PPO = good to see you! choicelady an hour ago

Muprh yes I hear waiting on bosters is recommended. twilson117 an hour ago

Hello choice….same question for you that I addressed to Ad (and that he answered very well)….talk me in off the ledge…..Is Newsom going to be recalled with a GOP lackey taking his place having the power to appoint a Senator if your Senior Senator is no longer in place. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

The San Diego Union is doing a lot of the polling and they are a GOP-leaning paper. I don’t know their reputation for polling but I’ve never relied on them. Still, it looks close but as I said, a serious campaign for Newsom hasn’t happened yet so the campaign starting now could help a bit. AdLib an hour ago

Hey CL! AdLib an hour ago

Murph – What is the concern about booster shots from your doctor? AdLib an hour ago

Ad does Newsom appear worried? twilson117 an hour ago

Hey AD! choicelady an hour ago

Another heads up from my doctor…..really a star in the medical system that cares for me and most of my associates…….there is yet-to-be-defined flu like malady that is hitting people. He got it and was out of work for five days…..not covid-tested and negative….not the usual strains of flu-also tested- I will post his note to me on this here in a moment. Words to the wise. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – it’s too close to say. I’m frantic, Ad’s frantic – we could have a DeSantis in November. CA people are genuinely stupid. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – I read about the weird new “flu” that isn’t the flu OR Covid. Scary stuff, and scientists are attributing these new problems to “bugs” freed by climate change. choicelady an hour ago

CL how is Newsom handling it?? twilson117 an hour ago

How about the conservative Dems in the House threatening to destroy the two track system if they can’t vote now on the bipartisan infrastructure deal and sabotage the reconcilliation deal? Insane, Pelosi and Biden have made clear that only the two track plan will work, to keep Progressives and moderates on board for both. These grandstanding conservative Dems actually call their group, which is aligned with Repubs, “The Problem Solvers Caucus”! What hypocrites. AdLib an hour ago

ad….the doctor says that boosters have, according to research trials that have been run, have been show to stimulate strong, and largely negative, reactions, from a larger percentage than the initial inoculations. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – he’s doubling down w ads, and I think it will work. choicelady an hour ago

Mruph – what does “negative reactions” mean? choicelady an hour ago

Ad I think Nancy will get them in line, it seems she’s letting them blow off some steam but when the time comes she will get them all in a straight line. twilson117 an hour ago

Ad – don’t worry overmuch. Remember what Will Rogers said, “I belong to no organized political party. I’m a Democrat.” This isn’t new. choicelady an hour ago

My doc’s report….He was off work-sick for six days with a high fever, pounding headache, aches all over his body, trouble breathing, coughing, watery eyes and nose, and limited digested issue. During that time he was off work and bed bound living in his own quarters away from his family. He was tested twice for COVID. Negative both times and twice for flu. Also negative. Whatever it is….it has not been ID’d. He treated it with lots of fluids, rest, nourishing broths, vitamins, fruit cups, hot showers, acetaminophen, aleve, Day-Quil, Night Quil, Corriciden HPD, Robitussin 12 Hour Cough & Mucus Relief MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – Yes, Newsom and Dems are concerned that it will be a low turnout/mail-back election which would give the far more motivated Repubs the advantage. A law professor declared that the way our recall is run is unconstitutional since Newsom could receive a greater percentage of the vote, even if he loses, than the person who would replace him, likely a Repub with less than 20% of the vote. How is that a democratic contest? AdLib an hour ago

Murph – there is a new bacterial something going around, affected only a handful of people. Maybe he’s one of them? choicelady an hour ago

Ad – my organization sent out a “ballot guide” stating NO on Recall (our same position in 2003) so I know our 1.5 million members will pay SOME attention. choicelady an hour ago

Ad I saw the story about recall possibly being illegal but didn’t read it in depth will have to go back and check it out. twilson117 an hour ago

TW – I’d LOVE to know what you know. Ad – can you give TW my email so I can get the skinny ASAP on this??? choicelady an hour ago

CL….negative reactions apparently refer to symptoms of the very illness that the immunization is designed to fight, and, in some cases, an even stronger rejection mechanism….this was rare in the initial shots but is more common (although still not frequent) with the booster which is basically just another dose of the serum you have already taken. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – I’m not one to quickly jump to adopt guesses about a new horrible plague so I’ll take it as his opinion and see if we hear more about this from others. AdLib an hour ago

Ad…understandable…but my experience with this guy, 13 years, has been phenomenal. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I have an immunocompromised condition, but it’s NOT systemic. I doubt I’m a candidate for the third shot. My BIL IS – an organ transplant recipient..The fact I have a screwed up thyroid seems pretty minor. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – I can see how that could be a real issue with boosters. I wonder though, would the risk of negative reactions be less likely in those who did not have any negative reaction to the others? AdLib an hour ago

CL when I figure out what I’m doing I’ll let you know. I the type stumbles around like a blind squrriel and occasionally finds a few nuts.

twilson117 an hour ago

Ad….since the boosters are being recommended for the immuno compromised…a group that appears to have been more likely to have a negative reaction….the concern seems to have real roots. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL….Bill does seem to fit the profile. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – I agree, Nancy will likely bring this all home but I am really annoyed by the egos of Congresspeople like Manchin, Sinema and these House Dems. It’s always the conservative ones who hold the majority of Dems hostage. Have Manchin or Sinema just gone along with any big Biden proposal without howling early on about how they’re not on board and need to be coaxed or pandered to? I really dislike them. AdLib an hour ago

TW –

Whatever you have is fine. Thanks! choicelady an hour ago

Has anyone, ANYONE been arrested yet?? Going nuts seeing those crims poncing about. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – I think my BIL will be eligible. choicelady an hour ago

CL – I think many Californians haven’t been engaged at all in the recall and don’t even know whether voting yes or no would keep Newsom in office. This campaign that’s starting now will be pivotal. AdLib an hour ago

Ad that’s what they do in Congress and the Senate twilson117 an hour ago

PPO – they are moving up the ladder. Think of this as a RICO mob case You get lower level wiseguys to roll on upper level ones, then get them to rat out the Big Guy. This is what’s happening. choicelady an hour ago

Ad – Think you’re correct. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – That sounds terrible. CL says there is a bad bacterial disease going around but it doesn’t appear greatly contagious. I wonder if these are the same things? AdLib an hour ago

Guys – you may remember I said I’d hurt my shoulder badly 2 weeks ago? Well, i’m doing therapy but today, while the ARM is better, the shoulder is very painful. I’m going to need to drop out and medicate. If I can, I will return, but at the moment it’s very painful so…I need to move on. Hugs to you all. NEXT week I hope is better!!! choicelady an hour ago

Ok…thoughts on Afghanistan….my retired professor hat. Two years into the police action that was the essence of the Bush and NATO response to 9/11…..an effort to uproot the Taliban….the job was done thanks to what the U.S. and its allies could bring to the table (weapons, intelligence, air support, specialized tactics and cash) AND the boots on the ground that was the Northern Alliance (the Mujahedeen who tossed out the Russians) and the Tribal Chieftains both of whom regarded the Pakistani backed Taliban as enemies of the worst sort. SO,it was done and then WE (Bush and Cheney) decided the U.S. could use a client state in that part of Asia and engineered the creation of a paper republic that both the Mujahedeen and Tribal leaders rejected. It has been downhill ever since. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – That ballot guide is so needed and will absolutely help. Awareness seems like the biggest issue, the GOP has high awareness because they’re pushing this as a way to commit a “legal” coup to take the governorship in a state that would never elect a Repub in a regular election year. Dems in CA need to be alerted to how critical their vote is and to vote “no”. AdLib an hour ago

get well, CL. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Take care CL twilson117 an hour ago

CL – Here is the Op-Ed by Erwin Chemerinsky (who I was in contact with on the HOPE proposition): “There Is a Problem With California’s Recall. It’s Unconstitutional.” https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/11/opinion/california-recall-election-newsom.html AdLib an hour ago

Murph I start witht the obvious, Bush and Cheney should have never taken their off the ball and strike out at Iraq. twilson117 an hour ago

TW…and Iraq was another part of the Bush-Cheney new-American-empire dream. With Afghanistan in Asia and both Israel and Iraq in the Middle East…all as client states…..the U.S. position vis a vis opposition states, China mostly but Russia somewhat as well, would have been vastly improved. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I think that Cheney had an oil-baron’s approach to all of this….to control what is valuable under the sand and rock it is best to control what is above ground by forming alliances with the power brokers there. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – Your explanation of the Afghanistan conflict makes sense. I would add to it that after 20 years of training, support, financing, arming, and cooperation, the Afghan military folds like a wet napkin immediately when the Taliban advances, tells me that at least those in power in Afghanistan under the US are failures and have betrayed their people. Either we committed to being the permanent military occupiers of Afghanistan, forever, or this would happen anyway whenvere we left. It’s the Kobiashi Maru, if you know Star Trek lore. A no win situation. AdLib 44 minutes ago

I am mad that the arrogance of the US Coalition thinking they could cowe Afghanistan cost so many lives. History shows that no one conquers those people. Yet another miscalculation like Vietnam. I wonder where is next? pinkpantheroz 43 minutes ago

Ad…the complete absence of the ruling class in Afghanistan in the crisis unfolding right now tells the tale….they are already gone….if not in person (yet) certainly in spirit. They have stashes of wealth secreted away and planned escapes awaiting….they have known this for years. MurphTheSurf3 42 minutes ago

Murph don’t disagree with your analysis regarding that. I agree with your assessment around Cheney wanting the oil. I just thinking about something the late Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in his book Strategic Visdion: America and The Crisis of Globsal ZPower where he advocated for India and Pakistan be brought in to help with the Afganisthan situation. This was to Obama of course. twilson117 41 minutes ago

The thing is, there was never any competent and good faith leadership in Afghanistan and trillions of dollars and 20 years created no legit military or government. The US was a voluntary pseudo-government for Afghanistan and the Afghans protected to stay in power were all corrupt and only about their own greed. AdLib 41 minutes ago

PPO….the U.S.last successful occupation of an opposed state that ended with allies in place of enemies was…..drum roll….Europe and Japan in WWII. MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago

Murph – It makes me think back to the movie, Lawrence of Arabia. “Lawrence’s men take Damascus ahead of Allenby’s forces. The Arabs set up a council to administer the city, but the desert tribesmen prove ill-suited for such a task. Despite Lawrence’s efforts, they bicker constantly. Unable to maintain the public utilities, the Arabs soon abandon most of the city to the British.” AdLib 40 minutes ago

Murph WWII an entirely different situation. Afghanistan is much more like Viet Nam. twilson117 39 minutes ago

TW…I am not sure what the draw would be for India and Pakistan. First they are enemy states. Second it was Pakistan that created and sponsored and then gave refuge to the Taliban. MurphTheSurf3 39 minutes ago

Ad…Lawrence may have been a mythic leader but he was also a Man of the West with experiences and beliefs that were absolutely foreign to those of his tribal allies. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

TW…of WWII is different…I suggest unique….. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

Which of course is real history as well. The Afghan culture may be as unaccustommed to running their own country in a free and fair way as the Arabs were. AdLib 38 minutes ago

Ad – your analysis of the ruling class in Afghanistan matches up with my own observations. MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

Murph yest India and Pakistan indeed are enmies but they have much concern for that part of the world then they US. Also the Talban have worked with both from time to time. ZB was pointing out to Obama they had a great stake in what was going on there and reason they would be more able to work with the Afghan government or what passed for a government. twilson117 36 minutes ago

Here is where I fault Biden…..a year to plan a staged withdrawal which draws all of those who assisted the U.S. across the country into Kabul where they would be evacuated to the U.S. and, I would hope, some of our UN Allies, for resettlement…..an agreement with the Taliban to keep their distance or face hell from the skies until the U.S. formally withdrew. I do not know why he did not do that. MurphTheSurf3 35 minutes ago

And here’s a very interesting angle on why the occupation/war in Afghanistan was doomed for the beginning. Can’t remember who but a legit journalist wrote on Twitter today that when the Taliban were in power, they stole the crops of farmers. When the US came in and drove the Taliban out of towns, the farmers explained that they now could sell their crops to the Taliban. When asked what their crops were, they said, “Poppies”. So the Taliban have been financed throughout, before and after the U.S. was there, by the heroin trade. They were never going to be weakened. This has been a 20 year waste of human lives, treasure and effort. AdLib 34 minutes ago

Also we shouldn’t forget before the Talaban took over Afghan was an open country with free greater freedom for their citizens before they came in and starting enforce their perveted version of Shria Law. twilson117 34 minutes ago

TW….I agree with your thinking on what might draw India and Pakistan together if they could get over their historic politic, economic and religious emnity….something they have rarely been able to do even for a short time. MurphTheSurf3 33 minutes ago

Murph – Yes, the buck has to stop with Biden but clearly, he was given wrong and poor intelligence. The IC failed Biden, this country and Afghanistan by telling them all that they had plenty of time to evacuate the country before the troops were withdrawn. This is absolutely an intelligence failure and now the Biden Admin is frantic to mitigate this disaster as much as they can. AdLib 32 minutes ago

TW—I think that your profile of a freer Afghanistan really only applied to a few relatively modern urban settings….most of the country was tribal and anchored in the 18th century. MurphTheSurf3 31 minutes ago

Folks that;s it for me this weekend. Enjoy yourselves and stay safe. pinkpantheroz 31 minutes ago

Seeya PPO! Have a great weekend! Hi to Fergie! AdLib 31 minutes ago

Ad…if I could think of such a plan, why could others not have done the same. MurphTheSurf3 30 minutes ago

Murph aslo I think we can’ t overlook the fact of the religious silimarity of those in the Eurpoean front, so there was some commonality there. With Japan, the destrutive power of the A-Bomb brought them to their knees. But McCarthy did is damnest to install Jeffersonian Democracy on the Japanese. twilson117 30 minutes ago

SO long PPO….I am following soon. MurphTheSurf3 30 minutes ago

Agreed Murph, I don’t see Afghanistan as having been free before the Taliban took over, they were dominating regions before their big push. AdLib 30 minutes ago

Muprh you’re correct on the number setting in Afghanistan. twilson117 29 minutes ago

Hey PPO take care twilson117 29 minutes ago

TW….beyond religious similarity Americans and Europeans grew in the same culture, intellectual, and economic soil…so they had much in common. Agreed. As to Japan….the A Bombs broke the military but it was Emperor and his civilian counsel who made it possible for McArthur to succeed. The emperor embraced him…making him his American Shogun. MurphTheSurf3 28 minutes ago

Murph – I’m sure the Biden Admin had the same thoughts as you, saw the logic of staging the removal of personnel before the removal of the military but there is no doubt that the military chiefs and the IC assured Biden this plan would provide for all the time that was needed. These people failed Biden and everyone, not having any clue of how quickly the Taliban could move to take over the country. We’ve been there 20 years and our IC couldn’t figure that one out right? AdLib 27 minutes ago

Though our club was smaller tonight….still a livelier and more fulsome discussion in this one hour than I have in a week here in MoLand. MurphTheSurf3 27 minutes ago

Ad…I agree about the IC community…although why they would have thought as they apparently did baffles me. MurphTheSurf3 26 minutes ago

Murph – Covid and hospitalizations are getting pretty bad in MO and they’re not masking and vaccinating. I think it is going to get so much worse there, in FL, TX, and other red states. AdLib 26 minutes ago

Ad…yes Missouri is heading into Misery….. MurphTheSurf3 25 minutes ago

Ad I agree with you around the IC aspect of this clusterf*** they clearly missed something. Let’s not foget Trump** agreeed to pulling out before the election which gave them a lot of time to plan and strategize. twilson117 25 minutes ago

I have a good friend who is an ICU nurse…or rather was….she has had it with the citizenry here. MurphTheSurf3 24 minutes ago

Murph – When execs at corporations are incompetent, the fate of a nation isn’t usually at stake. But these idiots in the IC who were blind to what the Taliban were capable of after 20 years. they are criminally negligent. AdLib 24 minutes ago

TW….yes…the tea leaves were nothard to read. MurphTheSurf3 24 minutes ago

Ad….agreed….well TW and Ad…a good night to you both. MurphTheSurf3 24 minutes ago

TW – Yes, Trump’s “agreement” was essentially a loser’s agreement, they promise to stop killing US soldiers and we’ll leave, letting them take over the country. This is all happening as Trump agreed though he set May as the date which would have been just as bad. AdLib 23 minutes ago

Well TW, looks like we’re the ones left to close the Vox bar. AdLib 22 minutes ago

Murph when are the citizens in Mo going to wake up and realize they are in deep pig crap and get vaccinated? twilson117 22 minutes ago

Ad so we’re closing the bar again huh? twilson117 22 minutes ago

Not yet! AdLib 21 minutes ago

Well it’s always a lively discussion. twilson117 21 minutes ago

There is a lot of craziness going on twilson117 20 minutes ago

In past Voxes, I suggested this scenario would happen, not because I am a genius but because it seemed so obvious. The red states becoming pandemic disasters was predictable by most reasonable people. And it will only get worse. AdLib 20 minutes ago

And with Repub governors fighting against masks and vaccinations, having already helped cement in their moronic followers minds that both are marks of betrayal to the GOP and Trump, have set these states up to have much longer and widespread infections and death. AdLib 19 minutes ago

Frankly I’m mystified by how folks are such lemmons and don’t think for themselves and are willing to belive all the crazy theories on the web. twilson117 18 minutes ago

It makes no sense. twilson117 17 minutes ago

And here’s my next prediction of what could happen. As the red states are drowning in Delta and ignorance, a new strain like Lambda or another one that is even more contagious and deadly could spread quickly in these states and become an unimagineable nightmare. AdLib 17 minutes ago

The GOP is the party of death. AdLib 16 minutes ago

And the party of tyranny and racists. It is a cancer in America. AdLib 16 minutes ago

There was something about Lambda is getting more attention on the news today. Also there will be another wave when all the fools at Strigius in SD. twilson117 15 minutes ago

And you know the motivation of these Repubs on trying to increase Covid infection and death, to make Biden and Dems look bad. They will destroy our democracy, kill their own voters, do anything to just hold onto or grab power. They are sociopaths like their cult leader, Trump,. shaped in his image. AdLib 14 minutes ago

They think they want to live under an autorcratic form of government thinking everything will be easier for them. Until they wake up and find all their freedoms gone with no means of getting them back. twilson117 12 minutes ago

Yep, that whole Southern and plains regions are plague-ridden and will get worse. And I could practically guarantee that after Thanksgiving and Christmas, a new horrible wave will devastate those states further. Here in CA, we do have a lot of infections and they are rising but they are a fraction compared to population as in those red states. AdLib 12 minutes ago

At least a large portion of your population is vaccinated which will hold off the infection. But with the Lambda variant it’s questionable. twilson117 11 minutes ago

So is your daughter getting preped for her trip to the east coast? twilson117 10 minutes ago

TW – IMO, they are far too ignorant to even care if they would be oppressed under a tyrannical U.S., they only care about hating and hurting their “enemies” more. They are happy to be devastated as long as Dems and PoC are devastated more. This is like mass insanity, they are mentally ill from all the brainwashing in the GOP, on social media and Fox/Newsmax/OANN. AdLib 10 minutes ago

Ad with the new census data out their anger is just getting hotter. twilson117 9 minutes ago

Yep, those of us who are vaccinated, the majority of the country, will be less at risk of being seriously ill but for a limited time, until the vaccines wear off or a new variant that isn’t affected by vaccines arrives. AdLib 8 minutes ago

Yep, she’s getting ready, bought her bedding yesterday. It’s going to come up quickly, just over 2 weeks! AdLib 7 minutes ago

The time will fly by. twilson117 7 minutes ago

TW – I know, the white racist Repubs will be going even more nuts after Trump wasn’t reinstalled now followed by the census showing that whites are less a majority. Their greatest fear and the core of their radicalization under Trump, is smacking them in the face. AdLib 5 minutes ago

I know, I can’t believe it’s only 2 weeks away! AdLib 5 minutes ago

It comes up fast, look I’m going to call it for tonight. Talk with you next week. Oh CL said want my email could you give that to her for me would like to chat with her on some other matters.She’s has a lot of knowledge I could learn from. twilson117 3 minutes ago

She’ll be home for Thanksgiving though so she will be out there for a couple of months then home for a little bit. Then Christmas vacation. So gone but only for periods. AdLib 3 minutes ago

Yes, with your permission, I can send CL your email info. That’s cool? AdLib 2 minutes ago

Everyone here at Vox are such great people, I can only say the best things about you and her. AdLib a minute ago