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Vox Populi – 04-23-2021

April 23, 2021

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 4 hours ago

My internet is creeping. So, if I’m not here, Kyrsten Sinema is getting a nude drawing, because fuck her, Mark Kelly is against weed and I am pretty high. But, at least we don’t have Kaitlyn Jenner running for governor. Just the same Douchey guy. Khirad 3 hours ago

Also, who is the fan boi for Jesse Helms and Harvey Milks Assassin? Would it shock you he works at FOX? Khirad 3 hours ago

I feel like Carrottop warming up the crowd for the Rolling Stones. I thought we were the same schedule again… Khirad 3 hours ago

Hi, tw. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

He PPO how are you? twilson117 3 hours ago

No complaints, TW. Muttering along as usual pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Know what you mean doing the same here twilson117 3 hours ago

Good evening Murph twilson117 3 hours ago

a bit of background: I’m Irish, naturalised aussie. Career was in IT starting in IBM. Son of a famous Irish actor. been here a year or two. Love the banter! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hi Murph! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Khirad…..running hot tonight and then gone…… MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Hi….to PPO and to TW MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

420 high! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

TW, where is shrewsbury? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO….you have only been down under for a year or two? did I read that correctly? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Hey all! AdLib 3 hours ago

Sorry! On POV a coupple of years. Arrived in darwin in 1974, 2 nights before the town was destroyed in Cyclone Treacy! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hi, Ad. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO>>>>OOOOOOHHHHHHHH….. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

PPO I worked for Digital Equipment Corp also in IT Shrewsbury is a town west of Boston just outside of Worcester MA twilson117 3 hours ago

That’s why we like Khirad…but wish he had stayed. AdLib 3 hours ago

Hello Ad… MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

AdLib twilson117 3 hours ago

PPO and TW…..you are both techies….cool. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I hear they are hiring ballot counters in arizona with tech background….you guys interested….but you have to be cyberninjas to qualify. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Hey Murph I was but you’ll never believe it I ended my career in HR twilson117 3 hours ago

TW…..you hace an HR tone…so yes, I believe it….smooth and cool. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

TW thats great. My wife’s cousin is an Antiochian Archbishop in West Roxbury Boston! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph I wouldn’t go near that site for any amount of money. And to think I also moved to AZ. twilson117 3 hours ago

What’s up? We’ve got Caitlyn Jenner running for governor out here in Cali. I think the RW scam machine just found they’re newest pawn to rob money from Trumpers. She will be crushed like a styrofoam cup. AdLib 3 hours ago

PPO>..an Antiochian Archbishop….sounds like a character in a fantasy video g ame. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Ad, It will make millions before, however. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

TW…..what kind of credibility can an operation like that have? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

PPO and Antiochian Archbishop now that’s interesting. twilson117 3 hours ago

https://www.stgeorgeofboston.org/ pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph none at all twilson117 3 hours ago

The RW Repubs had to pause their bogus recount due to spilling gallons of Kool Aid on the machines. AdLib 3 hours ago

PP0, the Antiochian Archbishop and The Search for the Holy Grail! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

It will make some sort of sense to the QMob.. After all they still adore the former guy pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO – Absolutely, the GOP is now just a con job, they see that their cultists blindly give them money for their scams and aren’t bothered when it turns out to be a fraud. Preying on their own as you’d expect. AdLib 3 hours ago

PPO…looked at the web site….where’s the archbishop. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph if there was ever a time I would wish for space aliens to come and take someone away it’s now with Trump** and all his followers. twilson117 3 hours ago

TW…..maybe they are the aliens MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph, Timothy Ferguson is a real character He is the Prosyngellsomething or other, the equivalent of Archb. He is in the red robes pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph it’s the only reasonable explanation for their craziness twilson117 2 hours ago

I mentioned this previously but maybe after all sane people get vaccinated, a mutant COVID strain comes and wipes out the Trump cultists like a reverse “end times” for them. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO……ah hah…there he is. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I don’t actually root for the deaths of anyone but it would make an ironic story. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, such a pity that the Rapture will come with breathing tubes down your throat. Not very rapturous pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

It’s not just AZ but all the other states who are trying their best to somehow overturn the election that was clearly lost by the fat orange blob AKA Trump** twice impeached. twilson117 2 hours ago

Ad…we have a local high school principal, not in my district, who has made a huge deal of “COVID Nonsense” that has forced him to undermine the education of his students, and the life of the school…he has flaunted the standards…..and made fun of the superintendent of my district who has done a stellar job for being a “tool of the socialist state”…..guess what….he is in the hospital….on a respirator….with COVID…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO – Indeed, such a poignant turn of events would not feel so rapturous to them. It’s always important to remember that the bad guys out there actually think of themselves as good guys. Praying for the deaths of good and innocent people simply because they have different beliefs is pretty evil and if they discovered they had damned themselves, Rod Serling would have to stroll into view. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph Karma is a bitch isn’t it? twilson117 2 hours ago

Ad, I tought that the gerrymander would be nullified this session, but I see a state has legislated to elect by district results instead of individual. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

This week, on Wednesday, Biden delivers an address to the Congress in a Joint Session….not technically the State of the Union but it really is…..COVID will change the entire setting…… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Hello! How is everyone? choicelady 2 hours ago

TW – However, the Electoral College has already cast their votes and Congress certified it. That’s the end of the 2020 election even if the AZ nutjobs ran around waving ballots shouting, “Trump really won!” Pointless except to justify their voter suppression and anti-democracy agenda. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey CL! AdLib 2 hours ago

TW…indeed, a cold hearted bitch MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph, I hope Joes first words are : ‘He lost. get over it!’ pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

HI – Saw the Mitigation Plan – GREAT! choicelady 2 hours ago

Hi, cl! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO…Love those opening words. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

AdLib I know but for some reason the nitwits are still trying to find something. twilson117 2 hours ago

PPO – Joe may think it. He won’t say it! choicelady 2 hours ago

Hey CL twilson117 2 hours ago

Hi TW, PPO, Murph – good to see you all. choicelady 2 hours ago

Howdy do…..CL! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Hi cl. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph – Is it cruel of me not to care about that HS principal and his suffering, knowing that he likely caused many more people unnecessary suffering and possibly death? AdLib 2 hours ago

How are things in Melbourne, PPO? You’re moving into winter, so does that reduce the fire hazards? choicelady 2 hours ago

cl, yes. We’ve had little rain in our area, but the rest of the State is OK. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO – Nope, without ending the filibuster and passing HR1, the gerrymander is alive and well as are Repub schemes to give themselves the power to steal elections. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph – the school principal (NOT your “Pal”) deserves exactly what he gets. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL – Thanks so much, glad you liked the climate change plan! AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – Best wishes. We are hanging in, getting the last wee drops this weekend, then on to soaring temps and…whatever comes. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad Lib..not cruel at all….I do not wish him harm but I do not much care if that harm comes his way. I know a teacher in his school and she has been petrified for a year plus….I got her a double mask N95 level and slipped her into my coop’s vaccination grouping….. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Our incompetent, happy clappy Pry – Minister is getting his ass kicked at the Climate Conference. Even more useless than Johnson! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

LOVE the plan, AD. choicelady 2 hours ago

PPO – for someone to be more useless than Johnson is quite a…something. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph – thank you for taking care of that teacher! choicelady 2 hours ago

Choice and Ad….I see that CA is trying controlled burns and presuppressant measures. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL…she is a gem…..one of the coop member’s sister. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Hey Murph good looking out for the teacher. twilson117 2 hours ago

Murph – that’s what I hear. I’m pretty OK with it if you discount the fresh hell that hit Yellowstone some years ago when it wasn’t so “controlled”. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph – I wouldn’t have wished COVID on him but the fact that he worked so hard to endanger so many and now he has it and is on a ventilator, I can’t raise a bit of empathy for him. How can you be empathetic to someone who is responsible for harming innocent people? I have no empathy for Derek Chauvin either. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad and Choice – I also have watched a couple of reports on CA adopting waste water conversion tech as a way of dealing with water shortages. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL, yes. Our PM is known as Minister for announcements (of course, nothing happens) , using word salad to avoid answering questions (took lessons from Kellyanne) also known as #ScottyBlahBlah pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

All – I believe in restorative justice, work for it, act on it. But when people flout the laws and do harm to others, well, what goes around, comes around. If you believe in “personal responsibility” for others, you have to take it yourself. Free choice means accepting consequences. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph – It’s nice to see folks learning from disasters as CA folks seem to do. Sometimes too slowly but they seem to do so. AdLib 2 hours ago

CL…I understand your reluctance to be enthused about the measures. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad…..I feel the same way about the principle……from what I hear he is a blowhard and a bully. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – it’s worrisome. Front page today in the Bee: should those doing controlled burns be held personally liable? Means there is a huge risk there. choicelady 2 hours ago

AdLiB what’s the take on the recall election? Does Gavin look solid? twilson117 2 hours ago

Murph – Yes, I saw video of that as well, people drinking processed wastewater. But so much more needs to be done, that is a good thing but if you read my plan, a national deslination program would provide hundreds of billions of gallons of potable water daily. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO…since getting to know you I have started watching your politics…..crazy, lazy, and corrupt is a global phenomenon. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph, they have reduced it to feebele impersonations of political action. their real aim is to line the pockets of their masters, just like in the US. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

All – Ad showed me his plan some months ago, and I think it’s doable and necessary. The extremists on the LEFT will say it will undermine the need for climate change work. But it won’t. It will merely keep people alive. Oh, the neoliberal shill aspects of it! Fine w me. He did an outstanding job with it. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad…I did read you post re. desalination – I was going to comment but got distracted….why is there so much criticism of the science behind it? i.e. it does not work effectively in the quantities required. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – Clearly, the principal is a self-righteous bully and what happened to him is exactly what was likely. We’ve seen so many Repub politicians and officials get ill (Ted Nugent is sick with it now too) and some have died. It’s like lemmings knowingly jumping off a cliff, they get what they asked for. AdLib 2 hours ago

CL…well that is one loud vote I believe in…and I trust AD too. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I need to drop off for a tick. BRB. choicelady 2 hours ago

PPO….I have a state senator who is a poster boy for the behavior you describe. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad…you know him! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

TW – Yes, Newsom is very secure in staying Gov, the recall was a plot by RW Repubs out here but they are a small minority of voters. Now, with CA having the lowest infection rates in the country and with the state opening up fully in June, all the momentum these cynical snakes thought they had by howling about protection measures, evaporate away before the election. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, that’s a relief pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad that’s good to know. He seems to have his act together. twilson117 2 hours ago

CL – Thanks so much for your kind words on the proposal, it means a lot to me. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad – it’s actually feasible. I can see nothing against it. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad…..I have liked Newsom for a long time. Glad to hear that the snakes are being driven to ground. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I need to go back and re-read the AD article and comment on it. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

All – I actually think Newsom is a doofus, but he’s the best of a bad lot. He’s doing what he can in an unprecedented historical moment. MOST of his policies are fine. He’s just sort of a simplistic person as a person. But I sure don’t wish him to be thrown out. ESPECIALLY not to the promoter of the recall nor to Caitlin Jenner. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad, hope your proposal doesn’t cost anything like ours! Melbourne Water pays the owner of our Desalination plant, even if no water is ordered, $608 million a year. That is equivalent to .16% of Melbourne’s FY2019 GDP, or $1.8 million per day, for 27 years. The total payment is expected to be between $18 and $19 billion. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

CL…Doofus…Yuk, Yuk, YuK! Now there’s a word on rarely runs across. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – The only real criticism of desalination plants, of which many have and are continuing to be built around the U.S. and the world, is that the amount of energy they require to operate is simultaneously adding to climate change. My solution along with some existing plants, like the biggest one in the US in Carlsbad, CA is to build a solar panel farm to provide at least 25% of the energy. Additionally, there is a newer material called graphene that is still being studied and could provide filtration at a fraction of the ebergy use currently required. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad….thanks for the reply…as I said…I need to re-read you proposal. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – He is awful. There was another MO legislator in the news this week for saying some really awful things. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad – I haven’t been able to pull up the actual story here. Did you drop the pipeline stuff we discussed? THAT I think is the backbone of the plan. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL – That’s the thing, it is feasible. Like Pres Biden keeps saying, we need to think big and we can make big things happen. AdLib 2 hours ago

AD and Murph – what the hell is the matter with MO? The numbers of really horrid legislators seem to have exploded. choicelady 2 hours ago

Xfinity can suck my balls while I’m here. Khirad 2 hours ago

back with us, Khirad. Hi! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Hi Khrad! First, please accept my apology for popping off about your beliefs. It comes out of ONE really bad experience in the 1970s in L.A., and I did a very unkind thing to you in letting that be my reaction. I am really sorry. choicelady 2 hours ago

For now Khirad 2 hours ago

TW and Murph – As the always informed CL says, Newsom is a mixed bag but generally he does the right thing and he is Progressive. He was married to Kimberly Guilfoyle which should tell you all you need to know about his penchant for poor judgement but he is doing a competent job. No way he is recalled, just as his good policies have come to fruition. AdLib 2 hours ago

BTW, it’s the one year anniversary of Trump declaring injecting bleach in putting light inside our bodies will solve the COVID pandemic. AdLib 2 hours ago

They are not my beliefs, but I’m getting triggered over stupid shit lately. I knew it was one of those things… and I just couldn’t deal. Khirad 2 hours ago

Ad – you nailed it. I’ve interacted with him several times, and he’s too much of a slick glad hander for my tastes, but I don’t hate him. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL……what’s the matter with Mo.? Where do I start? Remember this is state where the legislature regularly puts contentious issues on the ballot as referenda and then, if the public votes “improperly”, legislates to undo the results. Ex. Strong support for Medicaid Expansion…..state legislature refuses to pass funding for it. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Khirad – I WAS triggered by a scary icky experience. And I apologize. choicelady 2 hours ago

Khirad…you crazy guy, you are back….your first several contributions were wild. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad I wasn’t going to bring up Guilfoye but we’re all entitled one little mistake

twilson117 2 hours ago

I hated all Christians for a while. And realized they weren’t all abusive babysitters. Khirad 2 hours ago

PPO – That is so corrupt. There should not be private desalination plants and definitely not sweetheart deals for putting billions of wealth and control of water in the hands of greedy corporations. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph – my family has roots in Albany, Gentry County. I know something of the mindset. Sorry they seem all to be that way. choicelady 2 hours ago

Khirad if I may ask is it all Christians or just religion you dislike? twilson117 2 hours ago

Khirad – I work for a Protestant progressive organization and get that reaction a lot from people, BUT someone tells me they’re “Christian” I want to run screaming. The Religious Right has tainted everything even for ME. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL – No, the pipeline is part of the proposal. Maybe there’s a glitch in the PDF? The idea is to begin by building regional pipelines to share acquired water where most needed, building over time to a national water pipeline capable of transporting huge amounts of water. AdLib 2 hours ago

Religion! Now there is something we rarely weigh in on. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad – yes, there’s a glitch for me in the PDF. I’m working off what you sent me earlier. choicelady 2 hours ago

I’m a big fan of religion. I’m atheist, but like a Joseph Campbell type. I’ve made my peace and been through the therapy. Khirad 2 hours ago

Hey Khirad! Welcome back! AdLib 2 hours ago

Khirad! LOL!! choicelady 2 hours ago

I am a Christian Humanist who belongs to the Episcopal Church…… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph, I associate with the UU’s. 😉 Khirad 2 hours ago

Religion or what I call the Theory of Fred twilson117 2 hours ago

What is a Christian Humanist….I believe in most of it except for God-Part of the Jesus Narrative…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – best thing to be. There’s a lot to be said for being part of a genuinely progressive denomination that also has GREAT music. But it’s the people. choicelady 2 hours ago

Just don’t be Frank Khirad 2 hours ago

Khirad – I got into Joseph Campbell many years ago, it made a meaningful impression on me. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, there was uproar at the usurpation of the tender process and other skullduggery. All done by our Conservative Liberal/National Party in Victoria. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I am also a philosophical Buddhist… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I think most of my members vary from intimate belief in “something” to non belief at all, but all with a focus on justice and kindness and full inclusion of all people. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL – Sorry, I will check into the PDF in my post to see what’s going on. AdLib 2 hours ago

If there’s something I know more than anything, It’s Joseph Campbell. Just dance to your bliss. Khirad 2 hours ago

Ad – it’s probably my Chromebook. I have a new CPU to hook up that will make my life much better. Don’t worry overmuch until I get that hooked up. choicelady 2 hours ago

PPO – I wish there was a way for the people to cancel corrupt delas made by their government. AdLib 2 hours ago

So, I almost called Sinema a c— in my third email to her as an Arizonan. I’m fucking sick of her. She sold out so hard. Khirad 2 hours ago

I’m a non-practicing Catholic. Don’t visit churches at all. I like the Song, not the Singers! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Non-practicing Catholic, there’s built in there. BTW, there are these friars that have fun YouTube stuff. I like it. Khirad 2 hours ago

PPO – some of the coolest people with whom I work are kick ass nuns. Some priests, but mostly (as they say) “The Gals”. They are amazing feminists and have perpetually raised eyebrows at “The Boys”. They are serious justice warriors. I love them! choicelady 2 hours ago

Personal Matter….one of my dogs, Daisy, a beagle, 14 years old, who loved to wander far and wide was clipped by a car early in the week. She crawled back home so she could pass away in our arms. Folks, if you want to experience pure love, there are few creatures as noble as a good dog. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Khirad – The Hero’s Journey. AdLib 2 hours ago

CL, it’s been a while but Sister Michael from Derry Girls is my favorite. Khirad 2 hours ago

BTW….I have three other dogs….. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph, so sorry about Daisy. I adore Beagles! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Oh, Murph – I am so awfully sorry! Yes, dogs are THE best. I’m heartbroken this happened to her and to you. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph sorry about your dog twilson117 2 hours ago

CL – I will still check it out to make sure. It’s a new app on the site so you never know. AdLib 2 hours ago

AdLib, I’ll let you know the books I haven’t read of Joseph Campbell. He was a little lite on the Zoroastrian stuff but… Khirad 2 hours ago

Thanks for the good thoughts……part of my effort this week has been to pay tribute to her….quite a marvelous creature… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – I’ve had dogs and cats. Love them both, but I’m under NO illusion the cats adore me. The CAN opener, sure. Me? Meh. choicelady 2 hours ago

Choice….HAH! Truth… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

You know the saying, Murph: dogs have owners. Cats have staff. I’m the staff. choicelady 2 hours ago

Good thoughts, good words, good deeds. I don’t have any tattoos, but I want that as my first. It’s the Zoroastrian creed. Khirad 2 hours ago

Muprh had two dogs when I was young both taken out by cars, they are great companions. twilson117 2 hours ago

I want the T shirt a friend had: “Lord, bring me into the company of those seeking the truth, and DELIVER ME from those who have found it!” choicelady 2 hours ago

One of my dogs was found by me and a friend wandering in the middle of a country road. He seemed so confused. He was. Blind. And sick. Daisy and he became great friends……Laddie, the blind dog, lived for a year. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL…cats have staff! Wonderful. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Khirad – I think Sinema is as bad as the bad Repubs because she’s a con artist. She is a fraud, she has betrayed the voters on what she claimed she would support and it has become clear that she sees this all as being about self-promotion. A total unprincipled narcissist. She’s worse than Manchin, he is acting out of self-interest but it is true that he needs to balance coming from a very red state. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph – Laddie was very fortunate to have been fund by you and ultimately by Daisy. choicelady 2 hours ago

I cried for three days straight when my dog died. She was my best friend. Literally. My cat, lil’ Nietzsche snuggles me and is kinda my friend, but – a cat. Khirad 2 hours ago

AD and Khirad – the ONLY thing that will work for Sinema is massive numbers of people reminding her “We brought you in. We can take you out.” choicelady 2 hours ago

Khirad…a dog and cat owner……they do so humanize us. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I love lil’ Nietzsche…. I’m kidding. He’s just a brat. Khirad 2 hours ago

Khirad – my cats are each other’s best friends. I’m sort of reduced to their support system. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL…I was fortunate to have found Laddie. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I don’t want to bring up T**** but that he never had a pet… Khirad 2 hours ago

Is everyone OK with the Murder verdict this week? All except Fox, probably, because there might have been riots to gloat over pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Khirad – Trump hates animals. He’s germophobic and thinks they will contaminate him. They see it the other way around. choicelady 2 hours ago

PPO – YES!!!! choicelady 2 hours ago

K…an very powerful incite….Trump had no pet…….hmmmm… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Lil’ Nietzsche is not getting a cat friend. I live in a small apartment. Oh no. I’ve already dealt with my exes cats fighting. Khirad 2 hours ago

PPO….the murder verdict….absolutely…and so are three police friends of mine….. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – That is heartbreaking. I’m so sorry about Daisy. I have very strong feelings about dogs, they have such a natural and absolute loving connection to people, having dog energy in one’s home is comforting and something special. I saw someone write that while dogs live to serve us, he said he lives to serve them. They are unique, they embody what is best in life, loyalty, love, trust, etc. Very sorry. AdLib 2 hours ago

Khirad – if you EVER get two that don’t get on so well, get the wall plug, “Feliway” from Chewy. It’s a pheromone that actually WORKS. Not perfectly, but it helps calm them. choicelady 2 hours ago

PPO to be honest I had my doubts he would be convicted so when I hear guilty three times I was greatly relived. Now hopefully the other three will be found guilty also. twilson117 2 hours ago

Didn’t BLOTUS have a few, Ivana, Melanoma, Ivanka? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

There are so many approaches that our police do not use because they do not know them, are not trained for them, and have a philosophy dominate and control rather than serve and protect. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

TW – My husband and I held hands, and we both cried at the 3 GUILTY readings. It was HUGE. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad…beautiful canine thoughts! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Nietzsche thinks he;’s my god, and sometimes, I think he lets me be his when he spoons on the couch and bed with me. Khirad 2 hours ago

Murph – I have to disagree that cops don’t know, aren’t trained. Most every state has standards that are taught in academies and at roll call. Something else is going on. choicelady 2 hours ago

I think the whole world smiled at the verdict. Lord only knows what might have happened otherwise. Murph, glad the real police feel the same. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

If nobody does, I like Legal Eagle. We all know he’s not getting sentenced to all three right? Khirad 2 hours ago

Khirad – In the 1980’s Campbell became required reading in the entertainment industry for writers, directors, producers, etc. His Hero’s Journey explained classic storytelling in a brilliant way. AdLib 2 hours ago

Khirad I don’t know why Trump** claims he’s a germaphobe there is not germ on the this green earth that wants anything to do with him because they’re all afraid if they come near him they’ll die. twilson117 2 hours ago

And explained it’s relevance throughout history. AdLib 2 hours ago

CL….in most states….the training is not very good….my three friends are all senior officers and they have very unkind words for the standards….what is given lip service vs what is drilled into trainees. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I gotta go, my old friend from Oregon called. See ya! Khirad 2 hours ago

This is scary as all get out:https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/dave-grossman-training-police-militarization/ choicelady 2 hours ago

Khirad….state sentencing guidelines (which can be ignored by the judge) point to 12 to 15 years MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Finally from me – quick update on Fergie – Blood tests last week, more scans Monday, See the Cardio 30th April. going steady just now. I’ll turn 75 on April 28,, same date as Saddam Hussein! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I lost my childhood dog to being hit by a car. As kids, we rode our bikes around the neighborhood for weeks looking for her after she got out of the yard. Then a letter came from animal regulation and we were so excited that she had been found…until we read it and learned that she had been hit by a car and was dead. Learned a painful life lesson about loss. AdLib 2 hours ago

CL…that is what I am talking about……one of my friends says that training is at two levels…the overt that looks balanced and the covert which regards the public as the enemy…especially the black and hispanic public. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Cheerio all till next week pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Take care PPO twilson117 2 hours ago

Murph – that may be true in MO. I know there was a sign in MN that to be a barber is over 1000 hours of training. To be a cop is 600 hours. But in CA it’s offset by that story I pasted in above from Mother Jones AND by a service called “Lexipol” that cop shops buy to teach them the laws of their state – that are OFTEN WRONGLY PRESENTED. CA cop shops use it when stuff from the Police Officers Standards and Training (POST) is FREE and accurate. choicelady 2 hours ago

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Bye – PPO . Love to you and Fergie! choicelady 2 hours ago

CL – Yes, I saw that article and it reveals how sick so many in and around the police are. I’m going to write an article next week that asks, why do police need to use deadly force? Is this the old west? Why do we authorize the execution of citizens by a judge, jury and executioner. There are non-lethal methods of dealing with nearly every situation a cop faces, why should they have the option of killing human beings? AdLib 2 hours ago

CL…from what I pick up…..policing has become so oriented around a kind of occupation mentality that everything is shaped to respond to that……so every cop is equipped to be a riot cop…..there are heavy weapons in police arsenals…and vehicles bought from the military are built to control the streets…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Let’s talk about police use of force. I’m discovering because of my work w Greg and my own on hate crimes, that the problems lie at the COUNTY level where state mandates are ignored to NO consequence. I can give you an earful! choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph – And as you mention, add the militarization of police to the mix and it’s easy to see that we have an out of control Junta mentality. AdLib 2 hours ago

I spent 17 formal years and now 2 informal years trying to get good legislation passed only to see it fall apart at the county level. And that’s EVERY item but especially policing. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL AdLiB, it’s my contention police don’t see people who look like me the same way as they do other. Been working on a piece where I express this hope to have it up tomorrow or Sunday twilson117 2 hours ago

CL – But in the 21st century with so many options of tools that police could use to enforce the law, why do they need to use deadly force? AdLib 2 hours ago

One of my friends is nearing retirement and is spending his last two years running the evidence lab for his county force because he has become the target for a lot of criticism from fellow officers because he believes in processes that take down the level of antagonism and conflict rather than the take command, t ake charge approach. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – that is part of the training on profiling. It’s disgusting but ever present. See that article I linked above about who is doing this professionally to train cops and military how to pick out the “enemy”. choicelady an hour ago

TW – Yes, I sadly must agree. Many cops judge the people they encounter instantly and skin color gives them a knee-jerk decision that someone is a threat who must be dominated, must be nade to fully sublimate themselves or else. Not all cops but too damn many. AdLib an hour ago

If any of you saw the photo from last year’s Buffalo, NY BLM action where five BPD cops “took the knee”, know that the man in front is someone I know. He has stood fast against racism and endured who knows what. It was only 5 out of the entire force. Disgusting. choicelady an hour ago

CL….that officer is like several I know…and they are looked to as role models…sad. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL I will check it out twilson117 an hour ago

Well…..it is time to roll up the carpet….although it has been very good to set awhile with you all. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – Policing in America is all built on a foundation of adversarialism, racism and violence. There is no escaping it. Yes, many cops are good, considerate people but they are still operating in a structure that empowers and even encourages a siege mentality that justifies racism and murder of innocent people. AdLib an hour ago

There is a concerted plot among white supremacists to infiltrate cop shops and the military. This has to stop. The military is giving serious examination. The cops? Highly variable. choicelady an hour ago

Good to see you as always Murph! Hope the planting is still going well! AdLib an hour ago

Ad – I owe my life to good cops. I loved them. But in the 20 years I’ve been gone from that situation, it has changed and NOT for the better. choicelady an hour ago

CL – In the year 2021, police forces are just now stating that those with affiliations in the KKK, neo Nazis, etc., are being screened. Just now??? AdLib an hour ago

Good night, Murph. I am so terribly sorry about Daisy. choicelady an hour ago

Planting is not going well…..still short of help, but even if I had it…we have had three hard freezes on three nights…..separated by a couple of days……a lot of work undone. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Yes I have to bounce as well CL I will read the article you posted hopefully I will have my article up hear once I get it finished. twilson117 an hour ago

Ad – yes. Just NOW. And that, actually, is a result of BLM and those of us kicking butt locally who are white. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – that is awful! May your weather be better soon! choicelady an hour ago

CL…thank you…Daisy had a good life…and death……14 is really old for a beagle and she passed having chosen to be with her family…..she was in my lap…..where she belonged. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – I will look for your article! choicelady an hour ago

CL – I’m always conscientious about saying there are good cops. We have some in our neighborhood, we have a neighborhood watch that works with the police and being LA, there are people of all racial backgrounds here. But it’s not like that in many places, even here in LA. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – I am so glad of that. It’s humane. choicelady an hour ago

Ad Murph CL take care see you all next week. twilson117 an hour ago

Murph – Hope you can find a bit more help! AdLib an hour ago

Good night, TW and Murph! choicelady an hour ago

I believe that my friends are good cops which is why they are so critical. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

See you all next week. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Look forward to your article, TW! Have a great weekend! AdLib an hour ago

Ad – I think I will head to rest, too. I got virtually no sleep again last night. See you I hope next week. And let’s talk about your upcoming article on policing? I’m pretty free this coming week. choicelady an hour ago

That would be great, CL. Look forward to it! AdLib an hour ago

hi Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Did I miss everything tonight? Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Angela! Folks just headed out! They’ll be sorry they missed you! AdLib an hour ago

damn, sorry. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I just found out today my brother has COVID Angela Bridgman an hour ago

By the way, why is my article in Planet POV still pending? Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Vox starts at 7:00pm PDT and generally lasts between 1 hour to 90 minutes. AdLib an hour ago

Oh no, so sorry to hear that! Is he having serious symptoms? AdLib an hour ago

My mask-refusing, vaccine-refusing brother in TX just got the COVID. Likely his wife and their 1-2 year old grandson also has it. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I will see why the article hasn’t been published yet and will make sure it is, sorry about that! AdLib an hour ago

Thanks on the article. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I do not know how serious my brother’s symptoms are…I found out from my mom…my brother and I do not speak Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Oh, so that’s the backstory. AdLib an hour ago

My brother and I have not exchanged a civil word in 20 years. He thinks I am hellbound because I am transgender. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

We are as opposite as it is possible to be…he is a Republican and I am a Democrat…we mix like oil and water…we could argue over which side of the sky the sun rises on, no shit. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

It’s not easy to deal with the Texas mentality too many Texans have. I have family in Texas and they are all good folks who I get along with but in a non-confrontational way, a couple are that “Texas is the Greatest” and “Texans Don’t Need Anyone Controling Them” sensibilities. AdLib an hour ago

All that said…I wish him and his family well…even though it is likely that if the situation were reversed, they would not wish me well Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Wellnow, I consider Texas to be my home, too…even though I was born in Chicago. I lived ten years in Austin, and I graduated high school there…so, for me, Austin is kinda like…home. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s messed up. It always seems that those who are so self-righteous about judging everyone else are the last ones who should be judging anyone. AdLib an hour ago

I know. What is sad is how they would probably not wish me well if it were ME who had the COVID. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

But I wish them well, anyway…because that’s just who I am as a person. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I may not like my brother or get along with him…and there is a hell of a lot of bad blood between us….but I would not wish ill on him anyway. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I haven’t been to Austin but I have only heard wonderful things about it. I’ve been to Houston quite a bit but to see family which as I said, are all nice people. Even though some are committed Repubs. I’ve talked politics with them and both sides have gotten frustrated but we put it away after that. I don’t try anymore, as smart and logical as they can be about everything else, being loyal Repubs no matter how they have to contort reality is a religion to them, reason can’t change it. AdLib an hour ago

It’s just weird to me…I have found myself screaming to high Heaven about the mask-refusers and the vaccine-refusers…who are basically refusing their share of the burden of protecting society as a while…and it’s real easy to get mad about that….but it just feels different when it is your own family….even if it is family you don’t exactly get along with, yaknow?? Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Austin is a good town. Parts of Houston are nice. But Austin is the only pace in Texas I would want to LIVE Angela Bridgman an hour ago

And even then…South Austin only, please. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Nope, you can’t let the corruption of others be an excuse to give up your principles. I don’t ever wish bad things to happen to anyone, including Trump (not including justice, that I support happening). But never wishing people to suffer or die. That defines oneself and slipping into the same kind of petty hatred of others is a defeat. AdLib an hour ago

I agree. But that isn’t why I don’t wish ill on others….it just plain is not in me to do that…I literally CAN’T. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Oh, absolutely I wish for justice to be visited on those who have harmed others…but that isn’t wishing ill on them. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Yep, it is a bit surreal when you find your own family acting like the nutjobs you stand against daily. But ignorance, fear and hatred are virulent as COVID. AdLib an hour ago

I know. It isn’t like I didn’t already know what my brother was like. Still, though…I just don’t even know what to think or feel right now. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

All I do know is that I wish them all well. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Agreed, wanting Chauvin to go to jail for the rest of his life is believing in justice. Not wishing bad things on someone. But wishing someone to die, no matter who, is not the act of a decent human being. AdLib an hour ago

Well, I’d make an exception in the case of people like Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, or Charlie Manson…but, yeah…generally not a decent thing to wish death on anyone. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

There’s really not much you can do that you haven’t already tried. This is his choice, he didn’t use reason to make it and you can’t use reason to make him change his mind. If he doesn’t choose to change from who he’s become, it’s out of your hands. AdLib an hour ago

I know. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

But I keep thinking about our father. We did not get along either…and he never accepted me as his daughter….not until he was on his death bed…and we had twenty minutes together. It shoulda been twenty years. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I keep wondering if it will be that way with my brother, too…or will he finally wake up? Angela Bridgman an hour ago

We do not have to agree on everything…or even anything….just agree to treat each other civilly. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Even so, I don’t believe in the death penalty. As much as I despise people who do horrible things, I think of them being held liable for their crimes and imprisoned for the rest of their life. Not the way the alleged “pro-lifers” think. They worship death but simply want to dominate women. AdLib an hour ago

I am generally not in favor of the death penalty, either. But there just are some people…who are honestly such a waste of skin and oxygen…yaknow, folks like Dylann Roof… Angela Bridgman an hour ago

But for your dad, perhaps it took that moment for all of the pettiness to dissolve away and to see what really mattered. At least you had that brief time, some people don’t even get that. AdLib an hour ago

I mean, you just are NOT gonna “rehabilitate” people like that Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I know. And it wasn’t just my dad….it was me, too. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Do you know that a month before he died…I had actually said to co-workers that if I got word back from PA that my dad had died…I would go back to make sure he was really dead…how soon I had to eat those words… Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Unfortunately, it may take the realization that life is too valuable to be dominated by fears and resentment. I hope your brother can achieve some enlightenment to this unnecessary meanness that he is gripped by. AdLib an hour ago

I guess that is why I am more hopeful and forgiving for my brother who doesn’t deserve my forgiveness, but has it anyway. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Because that is how my father’s death affected me. It made me realize just how short life can be….Dad died at 51 Angela Bridgman an hour ago

It made me realize that life is too god damned short for all this pettiness and meanness…and that we’d all have a better life if we all treated each other….as we would want to be treated ourselves. Why’s that so hard for some people to understand? Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Yep, I despise Roof, Trump, Chauvin, Putin and the list goes on. But I feel like I lose and they win if I start thinking like them, that any life is disposable. Out of principle, I feel that if I can see any person as deserving death, I am supporting those who also pick and choose who they think should die. AdLib an hour ago

That;s a valid point. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

But there is the argument that I think they should die because of what they did to others….the people they killed…I dunno… Angela Bridgman an hour ago

It’s not about rehabilitation in my mind, when sociopaths are imprisoned. It’s about them being punished, losing their freedom to live and having to suffer for the rest of their lives thinking about how they destroyed themselves by destroying the loves of others. AdLib an hour ago

But how does that pay back those who lost thier lives…or their loved ones? Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I mean…if someone killed my mom, or my child, or someone I love…I can see me wanting them put to death. What does that say about me? Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I think that’s a common thought process, kind of going into a little denial, when a parent is dying or has died. AdLib an hour ago

I dunno. I just had a lot laid on me tonight…and it is making me question a lot of things I did not question before. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Like my railing against those who refused masks and vaccines. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I think that hope is worthwhile, especially since you’ve seen that it can happen as it did with your father. It’s sad that it sometimes takes people to be on the verge of losing their lives to value life and the lives of those they care about but that’s the nature of some people. AdLib an hour ago

It isn’t as easy to rail on them….now that my brother, who was one of them…has COVID. Even though we do not get along…it still hits real close to home Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I don’t know…maybe it is because I have never enjoyed financial wealth, or even a modicum of success, really….I found the thjings that have real value in life. Too many people only measure value in dollars and cents. It’s sad. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

My argument back is that it gives terrible people an easy way out by killing them. They should suffer for their crimes and living as a prisoner in harsh conditions for decades is a far worse punishment than ending their lives quickly and their not having to suffer. I think prefering life imprisonment to the death penalty is harsher.\ AdLib an hour ago

I have an almost-paid-for singlewide mobile home and a paid-for car that is 13 years old…that’s all I have to show, financially, for my life. But it doesn’t matter…. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Because I am weathy in ways that matter. I have my mom, and I am able to provide her a home…I have two dogs…and a few very close friends I love….and all that makes me rich. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I guess I have found pleasure and value in the simple things, because I was never able to obtain the things other people value. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Maybe that is the lesson I was supposed to learn from this life…I dunno. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

But killing a murderer will still not bring back those he’s killed to their loved ones. It may bring a degree of closure but doesn’t change the feeling of loss. I understand how families and friends of victims might want the murderer killed, I might change my mind if it was someone I cared about. I get it and I don’t judge or condemn anyone who believes in the death penalty for murderers. I just think that it is a validation of those who were killed, to say that no one should have the right to take a life. AdLib an hour ago

That is also a valid point Angela Bridgman an hour ago

It says you’re a human being. I might feel the same way if it was my family member who was murdered. But you do see many families also speak against the death penalty for the one who murdered their family members so it’s not one way or the other. AdLib an hour ago

I know. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

And it knocks me out…sometimes…when I see the families of people who committed heinous acts…beg for mercy and judicial clemency for them…and on the other hand…some families throw people out of their family just because they are LGBTQ. I wonder what to think about that sometimes… Angela Bridgman 44 minutes ago

Thanks for sticking with me a while, I just needed to work out some of my feelings over my brother…but I need to go to bed here pretty soon. Angela Bridgman 42 minutes ago

In the end, no one can take their bank accounts with them when they die. The material world is fleeting, we’re in it now but we won’t be sometime in the future. So what’s the point? Why are we here? Why is life happening and why are we a part of it? Maybe there is no one answer to that but we can choose and divine between what really matters and what doesn’t. It’s important to have enough money to live decently but so many wealthy and “successful” people live tortured lives. Victims of their own greed, their own corruption, their own pettiness. With the valuable time we have living on this Earth, I think nobility is a wonderful reason. Doing the right thing, caring about others, standing against what’s wrong, being a hero in your own life. Why not? There’s no right answer to what life we ought to live. Why not live in the light? AdLib 41 minutes ago

I agree. I want to leave behind a better world than I found….even if nobody remembers my name. Angela Bridgman 39 minutes ago

And that isn’t actually all that likely, since I am already in the NC history books….the first openly-trans woman to ever run for our State Legislature…I imagine 100 years from now, it will be mentioned on one of those tidbits that have on the news and stuff once in a while…I dunno. Angela Bridgman 38 minutes ago

Just want to make the world a better, nicer, kinder and fairer place than I found it to be Angela Bridgman 38 minutes ago

That’s a reason for being. Leaving a legacy of good deeds that impact others and may inspire them to do the same, if they aren’t already. It’s the only kind of true immortality there is, leaving something good in the world that continues in its own way. AdLib 38 minutes ago

Indeed. Like I said….even if they do not remember my name….let my deeds, my words….inspire others to create the kind of change I’d like to see. Angela Bridgman 37 minutes ago

So that’s success, isn’t it? Blazing a trail, leading the way for others to follow? AdLib 37 minutes ago

Let me make some of that change while I am here….and let the work not die with my body Angela Bridgman 37 minutes ago

Well said! AdLib 36 minutes ago

I just cannot feel any other way….it’s how I am wired. Angela Bridgman 36 minutes ago

Imagine what the world would be like if there weren’t people who felt the same way? AdLib 35 minutes ago

yo mean if there were, LOL Angela Bridgman 35 minutes ago

But yeah….imagine. Angela Bridgman 35 minutes ago

Heh! AdLib 35 minutes ago

If you want to take the Biblical story literally…perhaps this is why we were expelled from Paradise. To learn how to actually make Paradise right here on Earth. Boy howdy do we have a long way to go!! Angela Bridgman 34 minutes ago

I’ve met or have learned about many people in life who I look at and think, “That is a far better person than me and that’s fantastic.” But it’s never been because someone had money or power. AdLib 34 minutes ago

Anyhoo, I have just finished my coffee and so now it is time to go to bed (yes I am perfectly capable of falling asleep even after drinking an entire pot of coffee, LOL) Angela Bridgman 33 minutes ago

I’ve never met or heard of anyone better than me. Or worse. Just different. There’s people I admire, and would aspire to be like….but I do not see tham as better than me….or others as less than. Angela Bridgman 33 minutes ago

Good point. We exist because we make choices. We are defined by our choices. So being able to choose is required to be a person. AdLib 32 minutes ago

We all have different gifts, and it s up to us to use them for good purposes. May whatever gods there be help me to use mine in the best way possible. Angela Bridgman 32 minutes ago

Well, I don’t mean anyone is superior to anyone else, we are all equal as people. But I see people who are so noble and self-sacrificing for the good of others, it astounds me. AdLib 30 minutes ago

I know what you mean. I’m just telling you not to sell yourself short….or put others on a pedestal. Angela Bridgman 30 minutes ago

We are all different, and we all have different gifts. It is up to us to use such gifts as we have in the best manner we can. Angela Bridgman 29 minutes ago

Agreed. I don’t feel diminsihed to recognize remarkable selflessness in others. Could I have been Navalny? Gandhi? MLK? I don’t know but as you say, I do what I can do to make a difference in the world. Even if it was only one person, it makes a difference. AdLib 28 minutes ago

It does. Angela Bridgman 27 minutes ago

Imagine if you just light one candle….and then that person lights one candle….and so on… Angela Bridgman 27 minutes ago

And I think you validate your own existence by trying to make a difference in the lives of others. AdLib 27 minutes ago

Well, I try, anyway. Sometimes with some success, I suppose. Angela Bridgman 26 minutes ago

Perfect analogy! AdLib 26 minutes ago

I just say that if I can be half as good as my dog thinks I am….I’m doing all right. Angela Bridgman 26 minutes ago

We all do our thing, we try as we feel we can and combined, we make a difference. Not talking about the destructive types out there, they’re not on the same page. AdLib 25 minutes ago

LOL Angela Bridgman 25 minutes ago

Heh! I have decided to defer all wisdom about who I am to my dog. And she’s a good girl! AdLib 25 minutes ago

Sweetie!! What kind is yours? Angela Bridgman 24 minutes ago

If you can’t trust your own dog and their opinion of you, you can’t trust anyone. AdLib 24 minutes ago

Mine is a German Shepherd/Bernese mix named Gypsy Angela Bridgman 24 minutes ago

Golden retreiver. AdLib 24 minutes ago

Actually, saying she is mine is not accurate….more accurate to say that I am HERS…LOL Angela Bridgman 24 minutes ago

Nice, I really like German Sheperds, such clever and wonderful dogs. AdLib 23 minutes ago

Indeed. Angela Bridgman 23 minutes ago

And mine is looking at me now, wanting me to come to bed, because she knows that is when she gets treats. Angela Bridgman 23 minutes ago

You can tell who is whose by who follows who around and picks up and carries their poop. AdLib 23 minutes ago

She pounces on my arm and pins it down after I get treats in my hand…and won’t let up till she is sure she got all the treats, LOL Angela Bridgman 23 minutes ago

LOL, true that!! Angela Bridgman 22 minutes ago

Mine stares at me thinking I can read her mind and I have come to be able to read her, when she wants to go out, go for a walk, get a treat, they’re all slightly different looks but I’ve become convinced she thinks I just know what she’s thinking and staring at me communicates it for sure. AdLib 21 minutes ago

Heck, mine even drinks coffee. She always knows she gets the last drops in my cup….and she will sit up and ask (bark) for it….and then I place it down and tell her to wait….and she will not go for the coffee until I give her permission Angela Bridgman 21 minutes ago

Does she have her own Starbucks account? AdLib 20 minutes ago