Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago
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Hey PPO! AdLib 2 hours ago
hey Ad, no probs logging in. see u soon pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago
Great! See you then! AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Harleigh! AdLib 2 hours ago
Glad you evaded Trump’s secret police to get here. AdLib 2 hours ago
It wasn’t that hard, they’re blackwater mercs. LOL Harleigh 2 hours ago
Their pants do fall down when they run. AdLib 2 hours ago
Hi, Ad, Harleigh evaded the SS yet again, I see. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago
I have to admit, I like to imagie how the public should descend on them and wrap them up with a bow for Trump to pick up. AdLib 2 hours ago
imaginne AdLib 2 hours ago
imagine AdLib 2 hours ago
if you’re gonna chase protest people don’t wear full armor and 80 pounds of guns n shit. Harleigh 2 hours ago
put your teeth in, Ad, you’ll get it soon1 pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago
Damn, this keyboard is revolting against me! AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey glenn! AdLib 2 hours ago
glenn! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago
hey glenn Harleigh 2 hours ago
Harleigh, how are things down yur way. Not great here in MElbourne pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago
I’m here. No trouble logging in, Ad. glenn 2 hours ago
Harleigh, I imagine that one of the best ways to stop them is to pour a bucket of dishwashing soap in front of them and watch them knock themselves out. AdLib 2 hours ago
The numbers are going up there, PPO. AdLib 2 hours ago
glenn – Thanks for letting me know! I was a bit worried after that happened last week. AdLib 2 hours ago
yes, Ad. Worrisome, and no one can really figure out why. We did have the best early results pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago
we have the worst of covid outbreak and a nazi repube gov’t. hospitals are starting to overflow and cannot report cases or deaths. Harleigh 2 hours ago
So…the governor of my state is suing the mayor of Atlanta over wearing face masks. Meanwhile, armed thugs are “disappearing” people off the streets of Portland, and the RTLB is advertising beans. MAGA! glenn 2 hours ago
Harleighm it is obscene the WH controlling the stats. Ridiculous pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago
Hey Murph! glenn 2 hours ago
Ivanks is the GoYaHo pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago
PPO – I think it is a flaw in human nature, folks there and here just wantes it to be over so they came out like racehorses when the quarantines were lifted to force things back to normal. And Trump gave them permission, even those who oppose Trump. AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Murph! AdLib 2 hours ago
hi there murph. How is Mighty Mo? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago
floriduh has about 950 deaths for this time period every year. now they report 5,000 flu and 900 covid. Harleigh 2 hours ago
hey murph Harleigh an hour ago
Scary numbers, h, whatever way you look pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Harleigh – I hate to say it but I think FL, TX, GA and other Repub run states are going to be madhouses in a few weeks. The deaths are now catching up and climbing. Can you believe these Govs are murdering their citizens just for political favor with a madman? AdLib an hour ago
A little bit of happy news this week. My daughter and son-in-law celebrated their 20th wedding anniversary this week. The only bright spot in the news this week! glenn an hour ago
awesome Harleigh an hour ago
Wish them all the best from us, g pinkpantheroz an hour ago
GLENN…happy anniversary to them…. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Thanks, Harleigh and PPO. glenn an hour ago
glenn – Kemp looks like the disgusting little reptile that he is, this is sick, to spend energy and resources to force more Georgians to die. AdLib an hour ago
Murph–thanks. glenn an hour ago
Ad–well, kemp has “strongly encouraged” people to wear masks. glenn an hour ago
the covid is only part of whats about to hit the fan…. all the unemployed will now become homeless and the housing sector will tank and all the lenders for all the loans will default Harleigh an hour ago
Has anyone ever heard of something like this happening elsewhere? A governor suing a mayor? glenn an hour ago
And as for what’s going on in Portland, I am hitting the biggest alarm bell on that. This is what Trump is going to build up, seeding his Secret Police throughout cites to terrorize his enemiies…and keep them away from the ballot boxes. We can see now why he is so upset about vote by mail. His plan was to ramp up a civil war and disrupt voting. AdLib an hour ago
Hello to everyone….things are heating up here…too…not as dramatic as the southern tier but the potential is there…I fear. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
they got outed as erik prince employees, mercs Harleigh an hour ago
Harleigh–I’m afraid you’re correct. It’s going to collapse like a house of cards. And repubs and the RTLB will wring their hands and say it’s the Democrats’ fault. glenn an hour ago
melbourne 1975 – the Aussie Governor-General ( Queens’ rep) fired the fairly elected Prime Minister, Gough Whitlam to force an election won by the Aussie GOP! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
The drums of fascism are pounding loudly now folks… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Right Harleigh, all those people are dying of a flu that is nowhere around. You’re right, De Santis is covering up the massive deaths of Floridians. But you can’t keep people from seeing their family members and friends dying around them. AdLib an hour ago
Harleigh–the “troops” in Portland are mercenaries? glenn an hour ago
glenn – So happy for them, please congratulate them for me and The Planet! AdLib an hour ago
Hey all! Great to see you! choicelady an hour ago
Choicelady! Lovely to see you as well pinkpantheroz an hour ago
they’re lying about all of it but 25 million unemployed and another 20 million cant pay bills = big crash Harleigh an hour ago
glenn – Yep, stronngly encouraging people to wear masks then suing the mayor of the biggest city to keep masks from being worn kind of doesn’t work. AdLib an hour ago
Hey CL! AdLib an hour ago
glenn and Harleigh – I think they’re mercenaries. Academi, used to be Blackwater. choicelady an hour ago
Hey AdLib! choicelady an hour ago
Hello…CL…. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Hi PPO, Murph – lovely to see you! choicelady an hour ago
glenn – I am in full agreement. choicelady an hour ago
Murph – Hate to say it but I saw the MO Gov being a total hypocrite, attending a BBQ unmasked with other unmasked people and other crazy stuff. He’s sabotaged the gains that were made. AdLib an hour ago
cl you’re right. erik prince and its the same mercs from iraq and afgaghanistan lol Harleigh an hour ago
Seriously….where is this Portland atrocity going…..forces from various Exec Branch units being used to terrorize those exercising constitutional rights…this is Hitlerian (who as chancellor did much the same thing) MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Harleigh – in DC they wore Black w RUNNING SHOES. In Portland cammo. In Chicago plain clothes – all with assault rifles. choicelady an hour ago
Ad…saw the same footage…Parsons has tossed away a lot of credibility in that…… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
glenn – But it won’t work, everyone can clearly see that this is all Trump’s doing, this is what he wanted. Let Americans die in masses as long as he can try to juice the economy just a little before the election and win…then turn his back on America as it burns to the ground but at least he isn’t being criminally prosecuted. AdLib an hour ago
murph these are not gubmint employees…. brownshirt mercs from blackwater Harleigh an hour ago
Murph – I think they have finally over-reached. The OR Gov is being challenged to bring in National Guard to protect the protesters AGAINST these people. Then we can find out who they are. Not one detained person seems to have been indicted or arraigned – because the “arresting officers” have NO LEGAL STANDING. choicelady an hour ago
I’m with Harleigh on this. choicelady an hour ago
The biggest news here is that lots of big box stores are adopting THE MASK as requirement garb to shop…..the revolt has already started here. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
they were not taken or booked at a gubmint police building Harleigh an hour ago
WHAT is the problem w masks? I don’t get it. choicelady an hour ago
Murph – True but Trump’s facsism will only make his loss worse in Nov. I have faith that Americans will be brave and defy the militias standing outside polling places because to not vote would mean to empower even worse facism over the years. The only way to stop it, is to take Trump down. But also, Vote By Mail is the answer. That’s why Trump’s so scared of it. AdLib an hour ago
Kidnapping protesters is an FBI matter, no? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Harleigh…..I read today that they are assigned enforcement agents from three agencies which were identified….offshoot of those who cleared the park in front of the White House. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
I mean, the FBI need to invesigate pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Harleigh – one of the Portland guys said he was taken to theholding cells of a federal courthouse but released, no charges, etc. That would indicate to me that they have Barr’s OK to do it. Doesn’t mean they can press charges. PPO – the FBI might, but STATES need to do more. choicelady an hour ago
Okay, Ad, had to leave for a minute. All of a sudden, I couldn’t get my posts to post. Closed out, then when I came back, had to log in again. I was logged in, of course, when I first got here. Anyway…..strange. glenn an hour ago
Hey CL–good to see you. glenn an hour ago
glenn – gremlins or the government. Take your pick. LOVELY to see you, too, and I’m glad you could reconnect. choicelady an hour ago
I hear McConnell is insisting that a payroll taxes cut and immunity for businesses that order employees back to work are going to be must-haves in their funding bill. No way Pelosi agrees to killing SS and Medicare like that and forcing Americans to their deaths. AdLib an hour ago
CL–So, who hired them? The mercenaries? glenn an hour ago
Does anyone know why the LAPD smashed up a disabled protester’s chair and manhandled him? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad…..I am hoping you are correct…… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
glenn – Trump and Barr hired the mercenaries. choicelady an hour ago
I say, call McConnell’s and Trump’s bluff on their demands for killing SS and Medicare. If things get even worse, it’s on them, they’re in power. AdLib an hour ago
PPO -that isn’t the first time they did that to a person w disabilities. CA law and police training are SO opposite of that. I hope these assholes are indicted. choicelady an hour ago
Ad–yeah, I heard that too. Just like the RTLB’s rallies. No one in the responsibility party takes any responsibility. glenn an hour ago
Barr is oking it but those brownshirts are not just suddenly gathered for other different agencies and have the same non uniforms. it’s mercs Harleigh an hour ago
And then I worry about the health of my favorite Associate Justice…. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Ad, can the US survive till November? I’m not so sure. The guy has got to go. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO–Because they could? Because they want to show what victims police are? Because…..? glenn an hour ago
Murph – the CBP folks who are being IMPROPERLY deployed are actually marked. Mercenaries are NOT. There is zero insignia on those thugs. choicelady an hour ago
poor fucking RBG. she is trying so hard to last until 1/23/21 Harleigh an hour ago
PPO – we shall survive. But it’s going to be damned hard. choicelady an hour ago
Murph – A Federal court has already agreed that limits on Portland Police must apply to these Secret Police. The ACLU and the US Fed Atty in OR are quickly pursuing all of this and demanding answers and action. This is not going to stand. AdLib an hour ago
CL–Do you know that for sure? glenn an hour ago
CL….remember the no insignia people in D.C. ….. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph – Yes, Parsons is just as corrupt and hypocritical as most Repub pols. He is betraying the people of MO now. AdLib an hour ago
Harleigh – Here is for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ8JQGpsi4ARBG
: choicelady an hour ago
RBG….what an incredible person… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Ad–are you advocating that Dems pass the turtle’s bill? glenn an hour ago
I have the right to post that YouTube video. The main guy who produced it is my brother in law. choicelady an hour ago
hahaha Harleigh an hour ago
cl – go an error trying to play pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO–I, too, have my doubts about the US surviving. But, then again, I have hope that the sun will come out over America soon. glenn an hour ago
The tall woman singing in the back is my SIL. A FAMILY production. choicelady an hour ago
Ad….Democratic Auditor Nicole Galloway is the person taking Parsons on…she is the last Dem in the state government. Of note, in statewide polling they are neck and neck. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
PPO – Yes, the FBI should arrest those secet police who fired weapons at and seriously injured that one man and criminally kidnapped others. AdLib an hour ago
Murph–yeah, I’m with you on RBG. Hope she can hang in there. glenn an hour ago
Ad – I’m thrilled to learn ACLU etc. are ON THIS in Portland. We need to get a national perspective because they’ve done this in several cities. choicelady an hour ago
CL, brilliant! Send it to Notorious RBG’s office! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
CL…nice video…. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
PPO – RGB is well aware of it. choicelady an hour ago
My BIL is VERY talented. choicelady an hour ago
glenn – Thanks for letting me know. That is weird, I will keep my eye on that. Please let me know if it happens again. AdLib an hour ago
CL–Glad to learn ACLU is working on this. glenn an hour ago
All – everyone the mercenaries have abducted has been released, no charges. Says volumes about the fact it’s a ‘shock and awe’ tactic. And that they have zero lawful standing. But the fact they take them to federal lockups means Barr HAD to have give assent. choicelady an hour ago
PPO – The US will survive for 3 and a half moths, it may be brutal but most Americans are angry and determinned to take down Trump. They will crawl through broken glass, push past Secret Police, whatver it takes. AdLib an hour ago
There is a guy in the next town over who has a big Trump flag display in his front yard. 6 wooden polls with Confederate flags, Don’t Tread On Me flag, MAGA flag, Trump 2020 flag, Christian flag, and the U.S. flag….someone torched it all last night……lit the poles on fire. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph – what goes around, comes around. The RW has been targeting liberals, POC for decades. Now they’re getting it back and NOT from liberals, POC but from their disenchanted own. choicelady an hour ago
Ad….the FBI……Fiendish Barr Infiltrators MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph, hmmmmmm where were….never mind! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
glenn – Nope, just the opposite, I think Dems need to stand up to McConnell and Trump and say, “No way will we pass a bill with those disasters in it. You want to hold out, you will be blamed for no biill getting passed and people suffering. It will be on Trump’s and your watch!” AdLib an hour ago
1938 germany Harleigh an hour ago
H, I nervously agree. Worrisome pinkpantheroz an hour ago
CL–One of the reports I read from a person who had been arrested says that he was asked to waive his Miranda rights, and when he refused they let him go. That in itself is just as scary as them picking him up in the first place. glenn an hour ago
Wow, really? That’s amazing! I’ll have to donate to Nicole! AdLib an hour ago
CL…I think you are correct….there are many very angry GOPers here who have been royally screwed by Trump policies. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
PPO,,,,where were the police….???? I live in the country….late night, weekday the entire county is covered by four sherif deputies in four cars. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
CL – Wonderful video. I am on pins and needles though hoping RBG makes it anoother 6 months! AdLib an hour ago
Murph, the problem with older GOP voters is that they are so entrnched, they will hold their noses and vote GOP again, even if it signs their death warrants. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad–You know, everyone keeps saying we only have to wait until November. That is being way too optimistic. Inauguration is not until Jan., and the RTLB is, I’m sure, going to do as much damage as he can between losing the election and Biden’s inauguration. That’s what worries me. We don’t have only 3 more months of the RTLB. We have six more months! glenn an hour ago
that is so scary glenn pinkpantheroz an hour ago
CL – If this Secret Police invasion contiues, I think people have to show up massively and march them out of town. AdLib an hour ago
AD,,,,McConnell will move to confirm another justice if he can. What is to be done? Promise an expansion of the court, a huge change in Senate rules that castrates the GOP, impeachment trials of judges….????? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph – I don’t support torching anyone’s political speech but my heart is not breaking for him. AdLib an hour ago
Murph–while I think that RTLB fan should have his flags torched, I absolutely believe he also has the right to have them on his private property. Vandalism like that only serves to rile the magats up; it really serves no purpose. glenn an hour ago
What interests me, Murph, is that today Steve Schmidt (?) the GOP operative now with the Lincoln Project, is OUTRAGED by what he saw in Portland. Bill Kristol, et al. are not just anti Trump, they are becoming full allies on BLM, civil rights, justice and economic fairness issues. Something is happening for the good. choicelady an hour ago
Ad….yes, I agree but I too thought what goes around comes around. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
3 months of vote results and challenges and not certifying results etc etc Harleigh an hour ago
cl, pity they’re 3 years too late pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Murph – Actually, the FBI is the only fed agency that isn’t being led by a Trump slave. They could take steps against his Secret Police, Trump would be outraged but the end is near for that monster. AdLib an hour ago
Glenn….I agree but tempers are running hot here and it is on all sides. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
glenn – that is true, and I am not in disagreement, but I think it serves as a notice that the bully tactics the RW have used against POC, liberals, Jews, etc. are coming home to roost. It’s NOT liberals etc. who do this – it’s angry former Trump supporters. choicelady an hour ago
CL…I am glad the Lincoln Project exists but I wonder where the hell the GOP mainstream is….perhaps dried up and dessicated. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Ad–oh, okay, I misunderstood what you meant about calling their bluff. As for your last sentence, all of this shit is on the RTLB’s and repubs’ watch! glenn an hour ago
Ad – my work w the FBI on hate crimes bears your observation. They are not toadies. They are mostly worthwhile and on the money regarding rights. choicelady an hour ago
Harleigh – The difference is that we know about Hitler, a huge majority opposes Trump and protesters are only growing in numbers as such fascism goes on. This is America, we won’t stand for this. AdLib an hour ago
i’m hoping for a blue tsunami Harleigh an hour ago
ad, true, and in the ’30s, there werent things like social media to disprove and negate the propaganda spewing out of Berlin. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
CL–Yeah, I saw that outrage from Steve Schmidt. I do take issue with the fact that he said “it is up to the Democrats to fix this.” I totally disagree; it is up to repubs to fix it; and Dems will help all they can. glenn an hour ago
PPO – Not all of the older folks, many are changing their minds and coming over to vote for Biden. Some are a lost cause but being threatened with death can be sobering. AdLib an hour ago
Murph – they ARE the mainstream trying to kill the party as it is. They will then try to reconstitute it as it COULD be and once was. I know it was decent. When my brother appealed for CO status during Vietnam, he was championed by our state’s GOP Senator, Chuck Percy. Percy wasn’t anti war. He was PRO my brother. That’s a party one can tolerate. choicelady an hour ago
Murph and CL–And the RTLB’s supporters should be very angry! They were conned by a con man and are now being led by an idiot! glenn an hour ago
and mega church asswipes too Harleigh an hour ago
cl, at least the old GOP were only mildly corrupt, in a sort of bearable way, but this blatant power and money grab is too much, even for Republicans (at long bloody last)! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
glenn – I put it to Schmidt that it wasn’t Dem’s responsibility but ALL of our responsibility. He is falling into the maw of wanting a savior. Well no – work for it Steve. At least he’s on the good side! choicelady an hour ago
glenn – True, we have 6 months left but once Biden wins in Nov, I think many in Trump’s admin will be scared to help him commit more atrocities, knowing that a Dem AG will be in place in Jan and can put them in prison. Trump will continue to pursue a scorched Earth insanity but he may not have enough toadies left to help him, willing to go to prison for him. He has loyalty onnly as long as he has power. AdLib an hour ago
Murph–I also wonder what the Lincoln Project is going to do after the election. Will they force the republican party to own up to their treason? Will they force the republican party to atone for their mistakes? Will they be with Dems when Dems want to get this country back on track? Or will they just disband and go back to being opposed to all things Dem? glenn an hour ago
Cl…how did the GOP’s institutional leadership become so corrupt and lost to its own history and heritage? I worked for the Percy campaigns and for other GOP who were persons of conscience and strong constitutioanalists. Who is left today MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph – Exactly, McConnell stole one SCOTUS seat already, if he tries to steal RBG’s seat, the court has to be expanded to put these illegitimate picks in the minority. It must happen. AdLib an hour ago
PPO – the corruption was always in the GOP. Remember Joe McCarthy? But it got embedded and was horrific Reagan on. LOTS may be laid at the feet of the Dominionists AND Libertarians. I’d recommend Jeff Sharlet’s book, “The Family” about the religious zealots and Nancy MacLean’s book, “Democracy in Chains” about the Libertarians now headed by the remaining Koch brother. Together they are incredibly dangerous. choicelady an hour ago
glenn, they might be surprised and pleased that they are wearing the white hats for one, and that a reformed GOP who work now and again with Dems for mutually beneficial projects might, in time, erase the smears of crap all over thier names right now. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
CL–Oh yes, I love Schmidt’s rants. He certainly has a way with words! I just have to point out when he reverts to his repub stance. glenn an hour ago
Murph – I think the GOP is destroyed now, just a vessel for Trump’s racist cult. Trump will continue to dominate it and promise he’s coming back and will be president again to make white’s supreme again. The Lincoln Project Repubs may learn to accept that their home is best in the Dem party. AdLib an hour ago
glenn- he is essentially GOP. I’m not at odds w that per se, since he’s “old school” that I don’t like but can endure. His fury at Portland is amazing. choicelady an hour ago
Because their home, moderate Repubs that is, has been invaded and taken over for the forseeable future. We should welcome them to the Dem Party. AdLib an hour ago
CL,,,,the GOP you describe is not the one I grew up with and belonged to…we spoke of being Eisenhower Republicans but the seeds of corruption were present,no doubt. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
‘m nodding out here folks. see ya next week if the brownshirts don’t get me! Harleigh an hour ago
Ad–I hope you are correct that the RTLB’s toadies will scurry back under their rocks. I just don’t understand why they have protected him for this long, so I really don’t have much faith that they will back down at any time. glenn an hour ago
cl, yes, the political parties must divest themselves of all taints of Evilgelical corruption. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
‘Nite Harleigh. Stay safe! glenn an hour ago
g’night, Harleigh pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad – I’d be fine if the Lincoln Project and the other anti Trump groups took OVER the GOP. They can be dealt with. The current zealots cannot be. choicelady an hour ago
‘Night Harleigh! choicelady an hour ago
Harleigh, duck and cover MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
CL – That’s good to hear. I can absolutely imagine FBI officers pursuing this criminal attack on the rights of Americans by Trump’s Secret Police. And I don’t doubt that Barr is at the bottom of this too. AdLib an hour ago
PPO – I cannot tolerate the Dominionists. Just cannot. choicelady an hour ago
Maybe a ‘Lincoln Party’ could rise with centrist conservative platform. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad – Barr is the fount of all evil in the name of Trump, the evil. choicelady an hour ago
PPO – I’d love to see the Lincoln Party! choicelady an hour ago
There is a pastor here whose church is holding a choir-festival in two weeks in his megachurch……a spread event if there ever was one. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Joe, first job – Kill Citizens United! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO – Right, this is a different country and people than Hitler had to prey on. Our country was founded on fighting against dictatorship, most Americans have that sensibility. AdLib an hour ago
Murph – wear your mask, wash your hands, keep your distance and let the Darwin Principle work its wonders. choicelady an hour ago
Murph and CL–And let’s not forget how Goldwater warned the GOP of the so-called christians taking over their party. It’s amazing how prescient he was. glenn an hour ago
Someone, forget who, said BLM and protest in general was “un-American”. Oh? We STARTED as a NATION based on exactly those movements! choicelady an hour ago
Ad….yes, Hitler’s Germany had very week democratic roots…..having set aside the Kaiser and Artistocratic rule at the end of WWI the cancer of Hitlerism has fertile tissue into which to burrow. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
CL–I hope that’s what happens with the Lincoln Project, too. If nothing else, their oratory is outstanding! Schmidt and Rick Wilson have had some epic rants! glenn an hour ago
glenn – he was so oddly placed, a man supported by the religious right who hated the religious right. choicelady an hour ago
CL – I think it’s a pipe dream if any moderate Repubs think they can take back their party. The rats have iinvaded and taken it over, they are not leaving, they like having power and they outnumber the moderate Repubs. There is no taking back the GOP from these cultists, not for many years if ever. Either they form a new miinority party, join the Dems or learn to live with an insane majority dominating them in their party. AdLib 44 minutes ago
Glenn…when we look to Goldwater for wisdom you know things are bad…hah! MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago
glenn – I really do like them both. Like Bill Kristol, too. choicelady 44 minutes ago
Murph – ain’t THAT the truth? choicelady 44 minutes ago
CL–Who better to know what was in their minds than someone who was in their midst? glenn 43 minutes ago
Murph–ain’t that the truth? glenn 43 minutes ago
Ad – I’m not sure this year that the idiotic RW zealots will be in dominance. Oh, sure, they’ll exist – look at Alabama. But they may fall by the wayside to mod Dems. choicelady 43 minutes ago
Oops seems I typed the same thing at the same time CL did! Great minds! glenn 43 minutes ago
The GOP is so rancid now that I can see no way to bring it back. MurphTheSurf3 43 minutes ago
Murph – agreed. Rancid is the word. choicelady 42 minutes ago
glenn – I think Trump’s toadies have stayed in line because he holds power over them. Once he’s beaten in Nov, they will see he is going to lose that power very soon and it will be in the hands of those who will turn on him and his toadies for the crimes they’ve helped him commit. They are cowards as all bullies are, I think most will run away from Trump. AdLib 42 minutes ago
Murph–Agreed! Hopefully, mcconnell and graham will be big losers in NOvember. glenn 42 minutes ago
Ad–I hope you’re correct. glenn 42 minutes ago
CL – Yes, Barr is as evil as Trump, as Hitler’s closest supporters were. AdLib 41 minutes ago
Ad – I keep reading that the GOP give Trump to Labor Day to reform. He can’t. Then the think they will distance themselves and win. They can’t. Too little, too damned late. choicelady 41 minutes ago
Fading out quickly, folks. As always, enjoy these Friday night chats. Take care everyone! glenn 41 minutes ago
Another topic? Any thoughts on the schools…I am on a school board and very interested. MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago
glenn and Murph, boy, that has to happen. McConnell, graham and the Shits of the Senate must be defeated. pinkpantheroz 41 minutes ago
night glenn, be safe pinkpantheroz 41 minutes ago
Good night, glenn – lovely to see you. Stay safe in GA. We will do the same here. choicelady 41 minutes ago
So long, glenn…. MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago
Kepp schools closed! pinkpantheroz 40 minutes ago
Murph – Great points about Germany at the time and their recent hiistory of having been a dictatorship. They may have been more accustomed to it, Americans sure aren’t. AdLib 40 minutes ago
Night glenn! AdLib 40 minutes ago
Kids can carry the virus without showing symptoms. They can pass on to relatives and teachers Petrie dishes waiting to explode. pinkpantheroz 39 minutes ago
Ad….and the form of republican democrary in Weimar Germany hid the aristocratic control and militarism of the governing socieyt. MurphTheSurf3 39 minutes ago
Murph – my granddaughter (by proxy) will go 2 days a week with half her class while the other half goes 2 other days. That allows distancing. The three days NOT in class will be online on Zoom or something. This is in Bellevue, WA. I think that might work. EVERYONE will wear masks at all times. But the kids get how important it is to be careful. NOT sure that’s possible in all schools. Where it’s not, they should be online only. choicelady 38 minutes ago
Doctors tell me that it will be next spring before a vaccine has embedded herd immunity IF a vaccine is found and that is when large venues (schools, theaters, sports stadiums) can open. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago
One thing out of the 4year debacle shines out – the powers plundered by the current guy must be curbed to a reasonable level. pinkpantheroz 38 minutes ago
CL – That would be a dream come true. I think Doug Jones could win. Maybe McConnell could finally be defeated and Lindsay Graham too. But bottom line, Dems have the best chance to win The Senate, House and WH. If that happens as hoped, we will fix things so a Trump could ever happen again…or at least for a very long time. AdLib 37 minutes ago
Those two days in school will be enough to cook at lot of geese. MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago
M urph, don’t forget, that current wisdom is that the antibodies don’t last very long, so frequesnt vaccinations might be needed pinkpantheroz 36 minutes ago
Murph – only vaccine I will trust is that from the Jenner Institute at Oxford U. to be marketed by Astra Zeneca that has an outstanding track record of subsidizing uninsured people on their drugs. They say they will distribute it at NO PROFIT to themselves, and this is one company I actually believe. But no other vaccine will satisfy me. choicelady 36 minutes ago
PPO….this entire debacle has revealed how easily diverted and perverted the American experiment can be. MurphTheSurf3 36 minutes ago
Murph – these are Middle School kids who are not stupid. I’d not try it with lower grades. choicelady 36 minutes ago
Murph – but it also has brought out the best in us. Mixed bag. choicelady 35 minutes ago
CL – I don’t even believe that, until Labor Day? Then suddenly they won’t knw who Trump is or how they’ve protected and empowered him for 4 years? My bet is that they will continue being cowards, will not talk against him and the little change from not speaking at all about Trump’s insanity now to not talking about it after Labor Day will be an invisible difference to any voter with eyes and ears. AdLib 35 minutes ago
Ad – whole heartedly agree. This is the stance of the truly cowardly. choicelady 35 minutes ago
well, folks, time for me to go. staying indoors permanently except for fortnightly shopping. pinkpantheroz 34 minutes ago
Murph – More excellent background about Germany, thank you! AdLib 34 minutes ago
PPO – stay safe down there! Have a lovely week. choicelady 34 minutes ago
stage 4 here. Everywhere closed except for medical and food supplies. pinkpantheroz 34 minutes ago
CL….kids are kids and I think that this will be incredibly hard to pull off especially as the newness of mask culture wears off. MurphTheSurf3 34 minutes ago
Murph – that may prove true. I think it’s worth trying, but it is a risk. choicelady 33 minutes ago
PPO….wishing you a great week…..and safe living. Be well. MurphTheSurf3 33 minutes ago
Any thoughs on what the Sec of Def did re. flag regs on military posts? MurphTheSurf3 33 minutes ago
CL – I am wholly against in-person school until COVID-19 is way dow and under control. This is insane. Israel tried this and had to shut schools down when they saw it was a huge cause for infections exploding. Kids come home to parents and grandparents, you can’t let them get iinfected then infect their families, teachers, workers in stores. It is a recipe for an exploding disaster. AdLib 32 minutes ago
I think I’m toddling off, too. I don’t live on a diurnal cycle anymore. Stay up late, rise early (cats demand their food) and fatigue sets in after dinner and wine. It’s great to see you all. WILL try to be her more. Good night! choicelady 32 minutes ago
Ad – I do think it will happen in Bellevue. Not my call, but I hope it doesn’t happen to too many kids or their families. It’s agonizing. choicelady 31 minutes ago
Murph – Agreed, no hope for normality until a legit vaccine comes out. And if Trump comes out with a miracle vaccine in October, nno way will I let anyone I know take it. AdLib 31 minutes ago
Night Murph and Ad. See you next week I hope! choicelady 30 minutes ago
Ad….I am with you on this….no in person schooling until it is reasonably safe. I am one of seven on a board and I wonder what our meeting next Monday night will look like…superintendent is presenting the model he wants us to endorse MurphTheSurf3 30 minutes ago
Night CL MurphTheSurf3 30 minutes ago
I don’t think Esper is being brave, he is being forced by the Generals to do as they demand on flags. Esper is a quaking coward. AdLib 29 minutes ago
Well…it is just us…Any thoughts on the DOD policy re flags? Clever….state what can be displayed and ignore those that cannot be…and as you say….it is the Generals and Admirals who pushed Esper. MurphTheSurf3 28 minutes ago
I think you may be gone… MurphTheSurf3 27 minutes ago
This is the definition of insanity, doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. We’re now living in a horrible emergency because states opened up with the moronic concept of, “Well, we have to open and get back to normal.” Why would opening schools up be any different? And doing so in the midst of the worst time in the pandemic? Insane. AdLib 27 minutes ago
AH…there you are MurphTheSurf3 27 minutes ago
Nope, I’m always the last oe here! AdLib 27 minutes ago
Good hosts are always the last to leave. AdLib 26 minutes ago
Your comparison is apt. MurphTheSurf3 26 minutes ago
How is it different? Wishful thinking caused the diisaster we’re in…so let’s do it agai? AdLib 26 minutes ago
agai? AdLib 26 minutes ago
Damn, my “n” key is a bit off. AdLib 25 minutes ago
I have been told that one of our principals and her two vp’s at the middle school have let it be known that they will resign rather than oversee the nightmare of opening the schools to on site education. MurphTheSurf3 25 minutes ago
And I”m afraid that TX, FL and GA will be among the most ravaged states now, their slavishness as RW Repubs has turned them into such lemmings that they can’t prevent themselves from following Trump right off a cliff. AdLib 24 minutes ago
Murph – That is a person of integrity. No one who truly cares about chiildren and doesn’t want to leave some of them orphans for no good reason, could participate in this intentional infection bath that RW Repubs think will save Trump’s re-election. They are mad. AdLib 23 minutes ago
And it is sickening to see Pence post about how “pro-life” he is while promoting the killing of children and mostly, their parents and grandparents. AdLib 22 minutes ago
Oh, did yoou see Mary Trump on Rachel? AdLib 22 minutes ago
I was named to the board by the County Exec as a place holder when the person who won the seat had to resign for health reasons. I have come to know the leadership in our district. There are some very good people here. Technically I will be on the ballot in November if I want to be. Don’t know. Someone thought it would be a great idea to have professor on the board….no one is much impressed. MurphTheSurf3 21 minutes ago
I did see Mary Trump. Several shows. Her reading of the Trump Clan seems to be spot on to me. MurphTheSurf3 20 minutes ago
It is crazy how in this Trump era, outrageous things happen each day to knock out truly outrageous things from the conversation. Trump approving of Russian bounties on US soldiers, his niiece revealing how mentally disturbed he is, fascism on the streets of America. The majority just wants it to stop. AdLib 20 minutes ago
As to pence……his sickly, sycophant act was so hard to take in IN that he could not get party support for a second term there. He would have been primaried. MurphTheSurf3 19 minutes ago
I thinnk if you think you can make a difference, you should run for that office. AdLib 19 minutes ago
How much shinier does the Obama star shine in light of the Trump presidency. MurphTheSurf3 18 minutes ago
Yes, no massive revelations about Trump IMO but she puts real meat on the bones of how mentally ill Trump iis. AdLib 18 minutes ago
I do think Harris will be VP and if so, I may be more anxious to see her tear Pence apart than to watch Biden step out of the way for Trump to self-immolate in their debate. AdLib 17 minutes ago
I will consider. I will be primaried in August and will likely lose so for idealism sake maybe I should do it. MurphTheSurf3 17 minutes ago
Has Harris been hurt by latest revelations of connections to tech mega corps? MurphTheSurf3 16 minutes ago
I was watching the Jerry Seinfeld series “Comedians in Cars Drinking Coffee” last weeked, one episode is with Obama when he was in the WH and it was so powerful to me, amazig t think we went from that to this monster called Trump. You should watch it if you have’t seen it. AdLib 16 minutes ago
AdLib 15 minutes ago
Watch it now….. MurphTheSurf3 15 minutes ago
Hey, what have you actually got to lose? Nothing really but what a great experience to have. AdLib 14 minutes ago
It could negatively impact my work on the co-op. MurphTheSurf3 14 minutes ago
Nah, Harris can’t be hurt any more than Biden can be hurt. This election is about America vs. tyranny and madness and destruction. We can work through the corporate Dems once the house is no longer on fire. AdLib 13 minutes ago
Running for office? AdLib 13 minutes ago
Still given the importance of the school issue now……. MurphTheSurf3 13 minutes ago
Well, thinnk of how much you’ll be missed and appreciated when you return if you are primaried. AdLib 12 minutes ago
Technically seats on school boards are elected and therefore “offices” MurphTheSurf3 12 minutes ago
Right, I meant would running or acting if elected is what you’re concerned about interfering with co-op business? AdLib 11 minutes ago
Much to consider….thanks for the seinfeld/obama video….just finished…..see ya next time. MurphTheSurf3 11 minutes ago
It’s like 19 minutes. AdLib 11 minutes ago
AH…yes the co-op could be negatively affected…..running, and losing (or even winning). MurphTheSurf3 10 minutes ago
Right. AdLib 10 minutes ago
I fast forwarded a bit…I love them riding in the Beast. MurphTheSurf3 9 minutes ago
Right.It’s great! AdLib 9 minutes ago
Well…good night, host with the most!
MurphTheSurf3 8 minutes ago
Thanks my friend! Have a great weekend!
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