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Vox Populi – 02-21-2020

February 21, 2020

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then! AdLib 4 hours ago

Hey PPO! AdLib 4 hours ago

hey Ad see u soon pinkpantheroz 4 hours ago

Ok! AdLib 4 hours ago

Right, I’m here! Now what about Bernie?????? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Bernie has big problems now, don’t you think? AdLib 3 hours ago

I think he and his failure to curb his followers and prevarications has poisoned his appeal. For the better, I think. Bloomers is good only for his spend on great Ads, but otherwise….. no. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Despite the MSM pushing the meme that Bernie has this wrapped up if Dems don’t let Blooomberg buy the nom, he was already in trouble with being locked into arounnd 25% of a ceiling. Now that it’s public that Russia and Trump are wrking together to make him the nom, I don’t know that he’ll build on his Bros. AdLib 3 hours ago

And how about Warren kickig ass and taking names? AdLib 3 hours ago

I don’t see him break upwards any further, Ad.Hopefully the anti-Russian backlash will help the real Dem candidates. I’m seeing from here more support now for Biden, Warren and Klobuchar. I don’t see Pete advancing much more, do you? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

From the little I saw, she tromped on BLoomers big time. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Not Klouchar I think, she got destroyed in the debate by Buttigieg with minority voters. AdLib 3 hours ago

Missed that, Ad. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

What about LooneybinTrump’s rants? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Biden got some breathing room but if he doesn’t win very big in SC he may be permanently hobbled. If he loses in SC, even by a little, he’s probably done. AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey Harleigh! AdLib 3 hours ago

harleigh! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

hey guys Harleigh 3 hours ago

Ad, I think Joe will keep going and stay near or at the top, once Bernie’s problems increase. Who is backing him anyway? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

brb Harleigh 3 hours ago

I thik the final four will be Sanders, Bloomberg, Biden and Warren. Buttigieg is severely limited due to not havinng minority support. AdLib 3 hours ago

bernie, i mean pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO – Trump’s few remaining brain cells are blowig up post-impeachment, he wats to tear it all down ad his brain can’t handle it. Hard to imagine him agreeing to a debate. AdLib 3 hours ago

I’d make the list, Biden, Warren, bloomberg and Sanders myself, but I don’t really have a favourite, but not Bernie pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Trump’s ego may drive him into one, but I doubt if it would happen, due to ‘Sudden Scurity Matters’ or ‘illness’ or ‘Fake Debate’!! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO – She tore Bloomberg’s propaganda campaign, all half a billion, apart (for most Dems aside from the Never Trumpers and corporate media shills). AdLib 3 hours ago

One thing stood out for me. Why weren’t any of the questions about their plans to beat Trump? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO – I think that’s possible, Biden could gain ground but I think he would be a weaker candidate than Warren. Not much enthusiasm or younger voters support Biden. AdLib 3 hours ago

PPO – I wasn’t ranking them in any order but I think we agree on them as the final four. I think Bernie and Bloomberg are badly limited, I only see Biden and Warren as the potential uniters of the party. AdLib 3 hours ago

Warren sure opened a huge can of whupass on Bloomers. Now he has to defend against the stop and frisk, his harrasment of staff, pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Intriguing thought. Could or would Joe be OK being Elizabeth’s VP? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO – Yep, Trump’s ego is usually tripping him up and could cause him to agree to one or more debates. But with his dementia, it would likely be a disaster. AdLib 3 hours ago

PPO – I have heard that question since the debate and I understand it but my proposition is that if they were all just nodding in agreement about how Trump is truly a monster, how is that a debate? This is stage one, the primary, their immediate opponents are each other and they have to best each other. Then, after the nomination, the sites will be fully aimed on Trump. AdLib 3 hours ago

i’m ridin with Biden and Warren is the smartest of them all Harleigh 3 hours ago

PPO – Yes and the phony image of himself that Bloomberg propagandized witth half a billion in ads, is shattered. He will not gain back the people who see him for the racist, misogynist Republican he truly is. AdLib 3 hours ago

Are Americans freaking out yet about the COVID-19? Major quarantine here in OZ. Dumb of the Japanese to keep folks on the Cruise ship. I was a great incubator! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

bernie and the russians siphoned off enough in 2016 Harleigh 3 hours ago

PPO – Whoever wins, and I hope it is either Biden or Warren, they will really have to have a VP who is a person of color so I can’t imagine either enlisting the other. AdLib 3 hours ago

Harleigh – Looks like all of us here are pretty agreed, the only strong choices are Biden and Warren. AdLib 3 hours ago

Obama for VP lol Harleigh 3 hours ago

HArleigh – Michelle? Inspired choice if she did! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Fergie’s with you, Harleigh – Ridin with Biden! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO – Nope Trump declared that the coronavirus will just magically die when the weather gets warm and he’s dismantled key health and emergency offices. If it hits hard as it’s suspected it may, it wll be very bad. AdLib 3 hours ago

lol Harleigh 3 hours ago

Ad, especially when they fill 2 jumbos with both healthy and sick passengers for a 10 hour flight! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

warren is still the smartest on the stage Harleigh 3 hours ago

Though, maybe Trump would welcome an epidemic as an excuse to declare martial law and cancel the election. I’m not big on conspiracies but even if it’s not a plan, is that far fetched for him to do? AdLib 3 hours ago

True, H. She had her arsenal of facts fully loaded and fired them all off. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

November is too far away, Ad. It should have petered out before then. It isn’t Ebola, either . Just a bad flu with low mortality, but very contagious pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Harleigh – Actually, there are many factors that went against Hillary including Comey and the FBI coming our just days before the election to announce the re-opening of the election so while Bernie’s rabid supporters who didn’t vote for Hillary contributed, the numbers of black and youth voters in those Swing States went way down and were most responsible. AdLib 3 hours ago

Hi, Darling1 pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Michelle Obama has seen it all close up ad wants nothing to do with running for office…but she would be fantastic! AdLib 3 hours ago

I read up on covid the other day. regular influenza killed 60,000 last year and expected to be the same this season. I believe the CDC etc has been weakened to not be very effective which is why Spanky is putting the military on the front line!! f it gets out we may be in for a big hit Harleigh 3 hours ago

Ad, (Sigh) pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

I’m ridin’ with Biden too! Fergie1 3 hours ago

Howdy….. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph! Hi there. How is the old ticker? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hello to Fergie…most especially. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Amy Klobuchar not knowing who the President of Mexico is – appalling. Fergie1 3 hours ago

PPO – The U.S. has Trump paper pushers annd not CDC medical professionals deciding how to handle people exposed t coronavirus. It could be a real nightmare here. AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey Fergie!!! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hi Murph! AdLib 3 hours ago

PPO – thanks for asking. Doing well. My Cardio Rehab program continues apace. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

hey fergie an murph Harleigh 3 hours ago

Looks as if Amy’s star is waning pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hello dear Murph. So happy to know that you are back to better health. Stay well! Fergie1 3 hours ago

great news, Murph. Long may it stay that way pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Harleigh – I favor Warren, I think she would be the most effective to take on Trump and as president but I think Joe would be successful too. AdLib 3 hours ago

PPO – You’re right, I’m concerned about the spread in this country. AdLib 3 hours ago

Would they stop with the billionaire, smillionaire stuff. Whoever gets that cretin out of the WH is the goal. what’s so hard to grasp about that. Fergie1 3 hours ago

ad either will win Harleigh 3 hours ago

How can we keep people focused on the race when we know the Russians, Chinese, NKoreans and Uncle Tom Cobbley and All are trying to sabotage us? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

most polls show any dem winning Harleigh 3 hours ago

Harleigh – Agreed! It will be up to luck for the US to avoid a covid epidemic, no hands are on the steering wheel. AdLib 3 hours ago

polls had CLinton at a canter, H. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Thanks Fergie….how about yourself…..feeling ok? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

2016 couldnt gauge the nonvote Harleigh 3 hours ago

Warren will not be President. Clever – yes, brainy -yes, but far too theatrical. Hasn’t anyone given her presentation lessions? Quite frankly, she annoys the heck out of me. Fergie1 3 hours ago

yep Harleigh 3 hours ago

non are worse than bernie Harleigh 3 hours ago

Fergie, I find Warren grating…… MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Fergie – I am among those who has always had a discomfort for Klobuchar. Don’t think she’s a bad person but she is very flawed as a candidate and has only gotten this far because she’s never been a fronnt runner and vetted. Now she is getting vetted and is falling apart. Too conservative, has voted for 1/3 of Trump judges, English as official U.S. language, doesn’t know Mexico’s president, she is so…white. AdLib 3 hours ago

I suppose, Fergie, compared to ImpeachedAsshole, she’s relatively OK. Maybe away from the campaign trail, she canback off the histrionics pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

i cant stand bern waving his arms yelling and spitting into the mike Harleigh 3 hours ago

Fergie – I think Warren hammered a big stake in Count Bloomberg’s chest. AdLib 3 hours ago

Oh you know Murph! Thanks for asking. Trying to manage a bunch of stuff! If I listed them you would run away and throw up your hands in defeat!!

Fergie1 3 hours ago

PPO – I think the candidates are right to keep competing against each other but Pelosi, Schiff, etc. should be hotly pursuing the Russian attack on our election. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad, definitely a Monster Bash! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

harleigh, lick, lick, lick, YUK! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Ad…Amy has won in Mn. because she represents Purple Positions so well……balancing Red and Blue….. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Harleigh – That is the most important point that worried Des need to remember. All of the Dems are polling to beat Trump. So pick the one you think will be the best nom and president as opposed to trying to predict who Republicans will vote for. AdLib 3 hours ago

Fergie – If Trump can be president, Warren can surely be president. AdLib 3 hours ago

blue no matter who Harleigh 3 hours ago

Yes,Ad Warren did that but she just added to Trump’s bag of tricks as well. Who are we trying to defeat. Bloomberg has baggage but Warren was way too aggressive. Fergie1 3 hours ago

Fergie…..that answer captures your overall approach….head up, charging ahead, making managing a matter of Merit! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph – You used to support Warren. Now she’s “grating”? AdLib 3 hours ago

Sorry Ad, we’ll have to agree to disagree. She is no Biden. Calm down Elizabeth! Fergie1 3 hours ago

None of the candidates are ideal, Biden has many flaws, Warren has hers too. But I think they are the only ones who could unite the party behind them as the nom. AdLib 3 hours ago

me too ad Harleigh 3 hours ago

Ad, all candidates have their flaws and Oopses. We need to choose the best that can bulldoze over trump pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Ad, Snap1 pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph – My perspective on Klobuchar is that she is fine for white midwest voters but has no conection and too conservatiive views for people of color. And the Dem nom has to have support from PoC. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…I have said that about her from start….in fact, you called me on this before…..yes, I like Warren….I admire here thinking and am sympatico with a number of her positions but her style is so over the top….and so strident (much like Bernie I fear) that it is hard to stay with her……I don’t know who I support now….Bloomberg is as you said, I fear, and his performance two nights past was not impressive. Of those who are left, Warren is back on top. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Does anyone know if there are any plans to make sure the College is cleaner and fairer this time? pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Fergie, what do you mean Warren added to Trump’s bag of tricks? SHould Bloomberg’s land mines not be known now? Would we expect that Trump’s billion dollar campaign wouldn’t uncover this poblicly known oppo anyway…but too late for dems to change the nom? Daylight is very valuable in a primary, voters should see all the issues any candidate could have in the GE, THEY’RE HELPING dEMS AND VOTERS BY DOING SO, NOT HELPING tRUMP. AdLib 3 hours ago

Whoops! Hit the caps key by mistake! AdLib 3 hours ago

Not a fan of Bloomberg, but if his billions gets under Trump’s skin – then go for the jugular- Trump’s not Bloomberg’s. And Bernie, STFU. “Everyone in Vermont has a Cabin”. Yeah right. Fergie1 3 hours ago

Ad – her appeal to those Midwestern Whites is that balance beam performance between right and left….yes, her POC appeal is low and her appeal to the left overall is weak. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Fergie, happy to agree to disagree with you. AdLib 3 hours ago

Amy, the Susan Colliins of the Dems? Don’t think so! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph – I understand but Warren’s persona is that of a fighter and candidates who take that path have a more aggressive style to reflect that. I think iit’s genuine, I’ve been watching her for many years. AdLib 3 hours ago

What would a successful head to head debate performance between Trump and the Dem Nominee look like? The person who can meet expectations there should be our nominee. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yes Ad but Trump couldn’t bring Bloomberg’s baggage up – since he’s a million times worse. Fergie1 3 hours ago

PPO – Just the opposite, it sure seems that Trump and Repubs are being more aggressive in trying to manipulate the election and Electoral College. AdLib 3 hours ago

Yes, Ad, I worry that despite a Dem Victory in the Polls, the Electoral College will be engineered to reelact Whatsisface. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Fergie – Bloomberg is straight up trying to buy the Dem nom and presidency. No way I can ever support that and many feel that way. And he’s racist and misogynist so there’s that. Best scenario, Warren or Biden become the nom, unite the party and Bloomberg keeps his vow to spend a billion backing them and Dems. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…I do not disagree. But….just a Bernie will turn off those frightened by the demon of socialism, Warren will feed into the male reaction to an overly strong woman….NOW….can the women’s vote counter this…I think so…..I don’t think there is an effective counter to the socialist label. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

That’s what I hope as well, Ad. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph, I believe that Biden would have Trump for breakfast. Remember his takedown of Ryan in the VP debate? It was masterful. Why does every one not see that was the reason Trump went after dirt on Biden? Because he is the one he does not want to debate. Trump wants Bernie. I’m sure we all agree on the latter. Fergie1 2 hours ago

Murph, Bernie’s baggage of socialism, medical evasiveness and his aggressive horde of followers are dimming his chances daily. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

And Oh I’m typing too slowly to keep up – sorry. Fergie1 2 hours ago

Murph – That’s just in MN and among white people there. Klobuchar has zero appeal to Latinos and AAs, no way she can win in the primary like that. Those voters don’t see a purple stater, they see a very white-centric pol. Read my new post, I go into more detail on why I think Klobuchar will be out of contention after Super Tuesday. AdLib 2 hours ago

All of the polling is showing that only Sanders and Warren seem to have benefited from the debate. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad…I am agreeing with you. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO – Heh! Klobuchar and Collins comparison, though Klobuchar is okay and Collins is awful. AdLib 2 hours ago

Polling is a crap shoot at this stage! Fergie1 2 hours ago

Very little discussion about Mayor Pete. Good. A waste of time, won’t get enough POC support pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph – I think Biden would be more uneven against Trump in a debate but he would fair okay. I think Warren demonstrated how tough she can be against an egocentric billionaire, I think she’d fair better. Bernie would just regurgitate the terms “billionaires” and “1%” and Pete would babble on and say nothing. AdLib 2 hours ago

Fergie – Its already come out inn the news that Trump is indeed planning on hitting Bloomberg hard on sexism and racism if he’s the nom. This is the Karl Rove playbook, the attack on John Kerry, etc. Repubs attack Dems for what they’re guilty of to take the issue away from them and muddy the waters. AdLib 2 hours ago

The Caucuses will be interesting this weekend, to say the least! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Yes, Warren is tough, but her presentation is such that it gets lost. Fergie1 2 hours ago

Fergie….I am a fan of Biden. Big Time. And he was masterful vs. Ryan but Ryan is not Trump. Ryan and Biden were pugilists abide the by the Marquis rules in their bout…..Trump is a street fighter who follows no rules…..Biden would not be a match for him. Once thing to remember is that Biden has a significant stuttering impediment which shows up when the pressure is high and he is flustered. Trump will pound away on him. As to why Trump went after him…he goes after whoever is on top and Biden was there. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO – My concern as well, Repubs could again use the EC to pervert the will of the majority. For that reason and thankfully we now have Dem governors in all those states, Dems need to be on guard. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph, do you rally think Trump would actually debate anyone right now? He can barely put 2 words together reading a teleprompter pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Interesting Ad, well good luck with that Trump! Unless of course the MSM plays their usual “for the ratings” game and helps Trump. Fergie1 2 hours ago

Ad….I agree re. Biden and add this…Trump is a street fighter who follows no rules…..Biden would not be a match for him. Once thing to remember is that Biden has a significant stuttering impediment which shows up when the pressure is high and he is flustered. Trump will pound away on him. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – Hillary won a majority as a woman candidate and was beaten by a multi-pronged outrageous series of attacks frm Russia, the FBI, Wikileaks, etc. If Warren does similarly without the FBI or Wikileaks issues and campaigns in the key swing states, she’ll win as Hillary should have. AdLib 2 hours ago

trump will do 1 debate and prbably not 2 and declare victory. Harleigh 2 hours ago

PPO…Trump believes he is a GOD. His ego would not allow for any doubt as to how well he would do in any matchup. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Will Pelosi and Schiff take the chance and Impeach trump again before the elections? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

spanky says now he won all debates he’s been in… even though HRC killed him Harleigh 2 hours ago

Ad…I tend to agree with you on that Warren scenario….hopefully she will also get some outstanding coaching on effect delivering so as to broaden vocal and stylistic appeal. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

yep Harleigh 2 hours ago

Murph – Biden did fiine in the debate but I’m not surprised if he didn’t get a bump from it. Warren deservedly got a bump, Sanders did just because there was only one lame attack on him by Bloomberg. Everyone else got knocked around a bit. I think the Nevada results should show Bernie stable, Warren on the rise, Biden stable (which isn’t great) and Buttigieg and Klobuchar going down. AdLib 2 hours ago

Unless Trump tries to say “God Bless The United Shates”

Fergie1 2 hours ago

Murph – Got it! AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad…I read the results of the debate as you do. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad…Got what? MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Fergie – Very true, polling at this point is nothing to hang your hat on but I would say it shows one thing, Trump is nowhere near as strong as he’d like people to think. For all Dems to be beatinng him in polls at this point, he should be beating them but isn’t. AdLib 2 hours ago

Fergie, don’t forget they are all ‘criminickals’ pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Hey Ad, whadya mean “Biden stable (which isn’t great)” ? Are we going to have a fight now?

Fergie1 2 hours ago

PPO – Yep, Buttigieg is not the real deal, he is a brilliant performer but so shallow and uncommitted to principal. And with zero minority support, has seen his best days in nearly all white IA and NH. AdLib 2 hours ago

well i’m fallin asleep… later folks Harleigh 2 hours ago

Heh! Fergie, I would never fight with you because I don’t like losing fights. AdLib 2 hours ago

I hear you, ad! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad….and Buttigieg displayed a nasty “gotcha” bent at the debate. His relentless attack on Klubuchar was unseemly. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Stop it you two! Fergie1 2 hours ago

S’long Harleigh! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

How about this headline: “Poll: Bloomberg’s support falls 3 points after Nevada debate” https://www.axios.com/michael-bloomberg-debate-polling-1238a368-4106-41e3-b9b2-fface4ce8480.html AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, that had to happen. She showed his darker side to good effect pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad,I’m always happy to lose to a better contender! Fergie1 2 hours ago

Fergie – I agree, Trump won’t escape being hammered as a racist and misogynist because he tries to attack the Dem as that. But he would have a harder time callinng Warren a misogynist. AdLib 2 hours ago

Watching Gov. Weld on O’Donnell right now. He is Don Quixote tilting the windmill…but he has a plan to give himself a presence at the GOP convention if he wins 6 delegations…he wants to make noise, make trouble to point out there is another voice that remains (though subdued) in the GOP MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

What I think Warren showed on Wed and what was missing over the last couple of months is responding immediately to Bloomberg’s responses and nailing him on them. She can nail Trump the same way. She made a big mistake “staying on message” the last coupple of months like the other candidates. Aides failed her then. AdLib 2 hours ago

Palmer Report says Bernie has exploded! Tweeted: I’ve got news for the Republican establishment. I’ve got news for the Democratic establishment. They can’t stop us. 60.3K 12:02 PM – Feb 22, 2020 pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I’m going to say ‘night all. Thanks to everyone – for putting up w/slow on the keys so don’t get back to anyone quickly enough. Take care everyone. Fergie1 2 hours ago

Well….I am heading for the door….and then the bed…..8 to 9 ours a night… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad…your comment about the change in Warren’s strategy is just what I am looking for from her. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Fergie – I said Biden being stable isn’t great news because he’s been polling in 3rd to 4th place in Nevada. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO….I find Sanders tweet very disturbing… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/bernie-sanders-goes-off-the-deep-end-after-its-exposed-that-he-knew-the-kremlin-was-helping-his-campaign/25459/Coffee pot on! OK, Folks, great chat. See you next week pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Good night PPO! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO – Palmer is a Sanders supporter, the declaration that they will win despite 99% of delegates outstanding is just hoot air. AdLib 2 hours ago

‘night Murph, Ad, Fergie pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ah, gotcha Ad. True, but I’ll wait for SC and Super Tuesday. Fergie1 2 hours ago

Night Murph and Fergie and PPO! AdLib 2 hours ago

Qickly Ad, Palmer report is concerned! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Palmer is concerned about what? AdLib 2 hours ago