Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 4 hours ago
Hey PPO! Unhappy shutdown!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Get Mitch off his sorry ass!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
This is all crumbling down on Mitch and his cowardly Repubs.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Will it be the GOP who cave or Dems?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
The Dems aren’t going to cave, it’s all crashing down on Trump and Repubs.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Here’s hoping they can convince 45 to abandon the dumb shit
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Meanwhile, tonight the news is that the FBI began investigating Trump for potentially being a Russian pawn after he fired Comey! And Mueller is dropping his bombs very soon!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Who was it now who said: “Anyone being investigated by the FBI is not qualified to be the President of the United States.” ? Hmmm
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Does his name rhyme with “dump”?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Did you see that old tv show with a con man trying to push a wall on a community?
AdLib 2 hours ago
That’s it, Ad… Hump!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Was that the same con man who gave a commencement speech about going round, breaking through walls?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Heh! There really is a video, watch:

AdLib 2 hours ago
Brilliant!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Is that weird or what???
AdLib 2 hours ago
spooky, but too good not to share on Twitter!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
No kidding!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Trump has to hate it all, especially that he’s bald!
AdLib 2 hours ago
HE’ll be doing 76 trmbones any day now
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
In prison, he’ll be doing a lot more trombones.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Heh heh heh
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
And it seems many Repubs have warned him not to declare an emergency on the wall…so he said today he won’t do it now. What’s left but Repubs in the Senate having to fold and Trump with them?
AdLib 2 hours ago
I hope McConnell and Trump are reminded that if there is one mid-air over the shutdown, it’ll be on them alone.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Trump is scared, he’s finally been told that this is unsustainable and that there will be a public revolt as so many are harmed financially…and hopefully not in mid-air (my wife is flying soon!).
AdLib 2 hours ago
Yet I saw clips of Fox News wackos claiming that no one would notice the shutdown if the media didn’t talk about it, that it’s just bureaucrats in DC being hurt and that Fed workers support Trump and the wall so much they’re okay about it. Delusional!
AdLib 2 hours ago
The Senators from all of the Red states with high need for Gov’t Support must be changing underwear with monotonous regularity
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
And starting in Feb, food stamps/SNAP is suspended. How many rural Trump cultists will be hammered?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Nutso! I wish Fox were put off air for a month to see the difference in the sheep
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Well, McConnell’s own state must be hurting. It is now all down to him.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
At the beginning of the shutdown, I think the ignorant Trump didn’t realize how widespread the damage and outrage would be. Now, stuck in the middle of it, he sees it but he’s trapped by his ego and is drowning.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Yep, KY residents have to swamp McConnell with anger and Trump’s poll numbers have to crash. That’s the way out of this.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I’m sure all those Repubs who are laid off and working for free aren’t going to be telling pollsters how much they love Trump.
AdLib 2 hours ago
We need to keep up the publicity of the damage, overwhelming the Fox propaganda.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
FD!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
What’s up, peeps?
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Hey FD!
AdLib 2 hours ago
FD, just the usual shite from the WH
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Same shyte, different day!
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
PPO – I’m sure Fox News isn’t showing all the suffering people but everywhere else is. And those Fox viewers won’t need to see it, they’re going to be suffering too.
AdLib 2 hours ago
hey glenn!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Evenin’ gents.
glenn

2 hours ago
glenn!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Trump is NOT going to get his wall. Then, some of his base will turn on him. They wouldn’t care if he shot someone, but no wall, hey, that’s unacceptable.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
I hope that even the most one-eyed Fox watcher can’t miss the carnage around them.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
We’re doomed!
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Hey G! How are ya?
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
In case you haven’t heard tonight, breaking news that the FBI began an investigation into Trump being a Russian agent after he fired Comey.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Harleigh Hi!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Wazz up H?
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib 2 hours ago
hey guys
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Ad, love the way they kept it under wraps all this time. Just like a real FBI would! Hope Individual1 is pee peeing himself.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Okay, I’m just going to get it off my chest now. I hate that lying, motherfu**er in the oval office and I hate that smug, supercilious turtle in the Senate even more. One is too stupid to ever think about repercussions for his actions, and the other knows exactly what he’s doing!
glenn

2 hours ago
FD – Trump has already lost! When the public blames one party for a shutdown, the one in this case who boasted he would take credit for it, and all the damage grows exponentially as the shutdown drags on, Trump, McConnell and Repubs are the ones being squeezed. They will have to capitulate. Dems can just throw them a tiny bone that they can exaggerate as a “win”.
AdLib 2 hours ago
McTurtle is the Puppeteer, no doubt glenn
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad–I’m of the opinion that Dems should not give a go**amn inch! On the other hand, what tiny bone do you recommend Dems give them?
glenn

2 hours ago
PPO – When an investigation is ongoing, the FBI usually doesn’t talk about it (except when it was Hillary). So this has been continuing and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was leaked to put the fear of God in Trump before the hammer comes down on him.
AdLib 2 hours ago
McTurtle needs to be ousted from within the GOP. I don’t know how, but it has to be done.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
glenn – I think we’re all in the majority now on that. Trump’s numbers are sinking and McConnell has the lowest numbers of any Senator. He needs to be made into turtle soup in 2020.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Pelosi really has Trump’s number. She has figured out, to a T, what buttons of Trump’s to push. Schumer too. Trump really blew it when they manuevered him into taking blame for the shutdown. That orange dingus played right into their hands.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
glenn, maybe add a few million onto the already approved Border ‘Maintenence’ money
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad–since the lying bully doesn’t believe in God, I don’t think he fears him. Look, he’s gotten away with this kind of shit his entire adult life, so why should he think it’s any different now? Especially with the turtle giving him cover.
glenn

2 hours ago
glenn – Dems could tell Trump that they will fund an “electronic wall” then Trump can claim victory and Dems will spend money wisely on border security.
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO–maybe. Except there should be an accounting as to how that money is going to be spent.
glenn

2 hours ago
Ad–The Senate still has to approve any House spending bills, no?
glenn

2 hours ago
Ooops, gotta go. I have a visitor! Night all!
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
FD – As much as I credit Pelosi for her brilliant and firm handling of all this, I just think Trump is such an utter idiot, he had planned to claim credit for the shutdown before that meeting, thinking his anti-government base would love him more for it. Until their food stamp credit gets cutoff in Feb.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Seeya FD!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Night FD
glenn

2 hours ago
nite FD
Harleigh

2 hours ago
‘night, FD
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad–I love Pelosi’s statement from the other day. “I’m a mother of five and a grandmother of nine. I know a temper tantrum when I see one.”
glenn

2 hours ago
PPO – Sure, that would work, fund repair of border fencing with new fencing and let him claim a win. Then Dems can pull that rug out from under him in 2020 by explaining he just fell like a sucker and got nothing.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Nancy and Chuck need to be more visible telling the Trumpanistas how it really is.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
LIHEAP will be gone too so his base will starve and freeze!
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Ad–wouldn’t I just love to see that–the lying bully getting a taste of his own medicine.
glenn

2 hours ago
glenn – This is part of the insanity, Trump doesn’t even have a plan for what the money would be used for! No budget, no numbers, he just asked for a 5.8 billion slush fund! And guess who would be slurping out of that? His crooked cronies and secretly of course, him.
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO–I’m sure Nancy and Chuck would like to be more visible; the problem is the media focuses on the lying bully more than the adults.
glenn

2 hours ago
Ad–I know, that’s what frosts me. What is the budget? Where are all those “fiscally responsible” conservatives?
glenn

2 hours ago
Trump has finally come up against his own wall – someone who can’t be bullied, coerced, blackmailed or exhorted and who doesn’t suck up. Can’t coomprehend, so has nno plan against it. Good!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
glenn – It’s funny that Pelosi and Schumer claim that Trump’s tantrum was planned because it had to be! His mentally damaged view of “bargaining” is either threatening and holding hostages or yelling and walking out. Won’t work for the first time in his life. Trump is politically impotent, as a host said on cable today.
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO–Here’s hoping Pelosi stands firm.
glenn

2 hours ago
Harleigh – Trump was too stupid to realize all this will hurt his base the most! The rural cultists depend on SNAP/food stamps. He’s cutting their throats!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Oh, hopefully, glenn. We need to keep supporting her and Chuck
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
glenn – Which is why I’m hoping whoever the Dem nom is in 2020 is not shy at all at exposing Trump for the loser and coward he is.
AdLib 2 hours ago
AD they also depend on liheap for utilities…. uh oh LOL
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Ad–I don’t think it was necessarily “planned”; it’s what he’s done all his life, so he thought it would work again. As for his so-called “negotiating” skills, they consist of lying, bullying, and threatening. That’s all he’s got. Even his threat to declare a national emergency seems to becoming just that–a threat that he thinks he can hold over Pelosi and Schumer’s heads. Too bad it’s backfiring on him in a yuuuuge way!
glenn

2 hours ago
Ad, the Rural cultists won’t realise he screwed them till their benefits dry up. Then watch the howls! can’t come soon enough for the ordinary folk
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
glenn – Budgets, deficits, decency, those things only matter to Repubs when Dems are president.
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO–the cultists still won’t put the blame on the lying bully. It will be the Dems’ fault for not giving into his temper tantrum.
glenn

2 hours ago
Ad–bingo!
glenn

2 hours ago
Well put, PPO! The Dems, led by Pelosi especially, are the real wall that Trump has built and he can’t climb over or tunnel under it.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Wonder will Fox show much of the hearings next week? I doubt it. More Pandas to come!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad–LOL! The lying bully climbing? Tunneling? Those two things take labor and the lying bully can’t even walk more than 500 yards without assistance.
glenn

2 hours ago
Harleigh – With this big snowstorm coming in over a lot of the country, we may have a number of Trumpsicles found.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO–Will fox show the Cohen hearings?
glenn

2 hours ago
Murph!
glenn

2 hours ago
500 yards is a real stretch glenn
Harleigh

an hour ago
Hi…just trying to get the convo box in the right place…..the top is cut off….
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Harleigh–never let it be said that I don’t give the lying bully some credit!
glenn

an hour ago
Wonder how many sad families will there be of those lost in the National Parks due to lack of staff.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Murph–the top of my convo box is cut off all the time. I just jump into the conversation from where I can see it.
glenn

an hour ago
glenn – Agreed, Trump just does things, he’s noty a strategist. He’s manic and deranged and those types don’t consider consequences. How could someone given a $400 billion silver spoon by his daddy go bankrupt so often? He is a failure, propped up by his mental disease that weak minded people are vulnerable to.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO–Not to mention the destruction of the Joshua trees! What a shame!
glenn

an hour ago
I can usually see the whole box including the top banner where you sign out.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Ad–apt description of the lying bully.
glenn

an hour ago
Murph, I go to the bottom RH corner and press/hold to change the shape.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
he hid behind bankruptcy to keep his money everytime….
Harleigh

an hour ago
Harleigh–and now he can’t hide any more.
glenn

an hour ago
PPO – It starts in a few weeks, all those rural Trumpers will lose their SNAP, as Harleigh said, they’ll lose their utilities assitance, and those working government jobs are already suffering. This is big turd bomb that everyone knows Trump threw and is only getting worse each day.
AdLib an hour ago
Thanks Glenn and PPO…nothing seems to help I may just have to grin and bear it.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
HArleigh RICO!!!!!!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
true glenn
Harleigh

an hour ago
PPO – Yep, as Cohen testifies, no doubt we’ll see on Fox News that flavored sparkling water may turn you gay.
AdLib an hour ago
Murph–just join right in! I started with how much I hate the lying motherf***er in the oval office and the turtle in the Senate!
glenn

an hour ago
glenn – Heh! That’s what I was thinking, Trump can’t climb or tunnel past a wall because he’s a big fat walrus anyway.
AdLib an hour ago
Pelosi should be introducing laws or regs to prevent banks from foreclosing on Gov’t employees who miss their payments.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Are you up to date on the report tonight that the FBI launched an investigation into whether Trump was a Russian agent after firing Comey.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – You may need to clear your browser’s cache then reopen the page.
AdLib an hour ago
Harleigh–I do wish he’d throw the biggest temper tantrum of them all, and resign. He seems to think that holding on to the presidency will protect him, somehow. But now that Dems hold at least one branch of Congress, his protection is getting thinner and thinner.
glenn

an hour ago
weel guys i’m conkin out….. nite
Harleigh

an hour ago
And you folks saw this, right?

AdLib an hour ago
Yes Murph. Seeing it on twitter. Nice how they kept schtumm abut it for so long.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Harleigh hardly saw ye!
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
PPO–I actually think she did something like tha today.
glenn

an hour ago
‘Nite Harleigh. Have a good weekend.
glenn

an hour ago
Ad I tried that trick too….the box is acting weird tonight.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
PPO – That’s a great suggestion, Pelosi and Dems should be passing bills to protect those going without paychecks from foreclosure, late payments, etc.
AdLib an hour ago
Murph, try minimizing the Vox/menu thingy down below
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Murph–Just blame it on the Dems–it works for the lying bully.
glenn

an hour ago
Murph – Maybe closing your browser then reopening? Sometimes browsers get messed up.
AdLib an hour ago
The House and Senate passed bills guaranteeing makeup pay to all on the payroll….including contract workers.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I will just bear with it for tonight….the main page looks fine….it is just the vox box that is not working as usual.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – Yes, saw that breaking news. Trump has to be terrified that the FBI must have other evidence on Trump being a Russian dupe. Set up like a bowling pin, knocked down, it gets to wearing thin.
AdLib an hour ago
Well, folks, have to say byeee – shopping drudgery. But at least I can afford to shop today. Cheerio.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
I know I haven’t been here long; but I’m with Harleigh; I’m conking out. Take care gents, and we’ll see you all next week (I hope) to discuss the next episode of “The Idiot in the White House”.
glenn

an hour ago
PPO–‘cheerio. Take care.
glenn

an hour ago
night all
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
So long PPO….I feel awful getting here late….we are having big snow and I needed to get ahead of it.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – How about the 7 Repubs who voted against Fed workers from having their pay made up to them? That’s 7 more House seats for Dems in 2020.
AdLib an hour ago
And now Glenn is leaving…something I said?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Rest well and have a great weekend, glenn!
AdLib an hour ago
No, Murph, never! Just tired. Stay ahead of the snow, and hopefully, I’ll see you next week. G’night, Ad.
glenn

an hour ago
So Murph, do you think this all crashes down on Trump, McConnell and Repubs?
AdLib an hour ago
The GOP in this state are starting to splinter….studies of the midterm make it clear that the suburbs are starting to slip out of their hands….so a number of GOP are acting as if they are moderates and pushing a number of reforms in the State Legislature….while another group is digging in with retrograde policy. Interesting. We have a new governor who is an old hand, was the Lt. Gov. and he is holding it together but it is interesting.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I think this may be what tears the GOP apart, how can McConnell keep endangering his Senators’ chances in 2020 by refusing to end the shutdown? When people don’t get their tax refunds, the dam will bust!
AdLib an hour ago
Farmers are not getting their support checks, several factories here with government contracts have gone silent, a whole bunch of federal offices involved with medicare are limping along…..it is starting to get to people.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Very interesting but bodes poorly for Repubs in 2020. They can’t keep cheering for Trump then out of the other side of their mouth, tell their constituents that they’re moderates who care about the people.
AdLib an hour ago
I wrote an article for Yabberz earlier this week about what I pick up at the watering hole I go to a couple of times a week…..the trump loyalists remain oblivious to reality but those on the fringe are definitely speaking in hushed and worried tones.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Trump is so ignorant, I don’t think he had any concept of what it meant to shut down government. In his pea brain, it just meant that departments would go dark and his anti-gov cult would applaud. Now, he’s going to have a seething mob surrounding him and no escape.
AdLib an hour ago
These Trump loyalists really define what it means to be a cultist.
AdLib an hour ago
Did you see that the border agent who briefed him and his cadre yesterday showed him how tunnels have made above ground barriers totally ineffective…..he looked constipated.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
The ignorant can’t be reasoned out of their ignorance.
AdLib an hour ago
Fear, anger, anxiety, hatred…….transform that ignorance into wisdom in their minds.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Yes, that was so satisfying…especially because it’s true! Meanwhile all those in Trump’s WH are spouting lies that keep being destroyed. No one believes any of them except the cultists. How do you win re-election from there?
AdLib an hour ago
Did you see that Barr has a lot more baggage in is background than just that opinion letter he sent to Trump (fishing for a job)…..
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Fear and hatred make you dumb, they block reason and like a drug, people become reliant on them to function.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad…they do…..and pack mentality feeds it all.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Yes, Barr was behind Bush’s mass pardons of guilty-as-sin Iran/Contra criminals!
AdLib an hour ago
In all of the worship of the George HW Bush at his passing, Iran Contra was glided over……
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
And just when Bush was being exposed as being involved! Another reason why Dems need to win the WH in 2020 so mass pardons won’t be available then (if they haven’t been used before. And if Trump and Barr do that, Repubs will be destroyed in 2020.
AdLib an hour ago
It is interesting to me how ready GOP Presidents have been to work around constitutional limitations while claiming they are strict constructionists.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Yes! You know how much I loathe the whitewashing of people when they die. Bush Sr. did horrible things in his life yet because we have Trump in the WH, he was seen in a very different and flattering light.
AdLib an hour ago
Think so much of this is in the open……pardons may well be framed as obstruction of justice….in which case, according to what I have read, they would not hold.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Have you seen Vice?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – It’s all a scam, Repubs are radicals who only play the “strict constructionist” card when Dems are in power or Dem friendly issues are at hand. Frauds, Trump is the symbol of who many of them are to one degree or another.
AdLib an hour ago
Yes, I liked Vice, especially Christian Bale’s performance (he won a Golden Globe for it).
AdLib an hour ago
Ad…I agree…..the GOP has moved more and more into that mode of operation since Reagan.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I saw Vice at a theater in a very affluent area….and a lot of people in the audience were really pissed off.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Gee, I wonder why?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
The film is good but it skips over Cheney as Sec of Def during Desert Storm….who is then ignored when Bush and Schwartkopf decide to pull the plug. I think that much of what he did with W is backwash from that.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
But you know the thing about con jobs is that after people have been repeatedly burned by them, they don’t work so well anymore. I think Repubs have destroyed all their credibility on any issue, the deficit, healthcare, democracy. They are exposed and disarmed. Which is why they have to cheat to win elections. What about the gall of Harris in NC?
AdLib an hour ago
Very good point about Cheney’s motivations. You can only cover so much in a 2 hour movie, they did leave out bits and pieces that I thought were important.
AdLib an hour ago
Yes……I simply say now that I discount everything Trump or his sycophants say since the trail of lies that lies behind them is so long, so broad and so deep that it robs them of any credibility.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
And the attempt to humanize him fell a bit flat because I never felt I could see what was going on in him.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad…how did you see the film trying to humanize him?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
The old cliche, “If his lips are moving, he’s lying” is a simple and effective philosophy to hve towards Trump and al his dirty little liars in his admin. And Sarah Sanders thinks anyone would hire her except a RW org?
AdLib an hour ago
How can Sanders face her own children?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
In Cheney’s earlier life, meeting Lynne and bouncing around. The character/man is unrelateable even so.
AdLib an hour ago
I admired quite a bit of what Mike Huckabee did as Gov of Arkansas but the cancer in the GOP has eaten away at the integrity that he had in that role and it has rotted his family out from the center.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Ad….ok I see that……but what hit me was how manipulated Lynne was…..spiders weaving webs for each other…..
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
How can any f these traitors and liars face their children or parents? It astounds me, seeing everyone who joins that WH become lying little monsters. Look at Neilsen in HHS, she is an out and out liar, lies to America and Congress, bald faced!
AdLib an hour ago
And Nielsen is lying about matters that affect the poorest of the poor….women, children, the persecuted, the refugee….and her policies and actions are so inhumane…..
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I think Huckabee was a slippery character from the beginning, he created a public persona that was likeable to a degree but like Trump, it wwas a facade. We finally got to see who he was, a small and horrible little hateful man.
AdLib an hour ago
Yes, she’s lying about family separation, promoting racist hatred of immigrants, she would have made a good Nazi.
AdLib an hour ago
I followed him closely in Arkansas……and his admin followed a very corrupt one….in fact he took the reigns when the governor was removed….he did a lot of good work there….but I think post-office money offers were too tempting and the rot set in.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Dems need to hold a public hearing on many of Trump’s creatures, especially Nielsen.
AdLib an hour ago
The Governor’s Mansion in Ark. was literally falling down…..repairs were long overdue (and in fact lots of money had been expended to do this with nothing to show for it). Huckabee had a big family and when they moved out the mansion he refused to consider the rental of another mansion. The family lived in a double wide trailer on the grounds for nearly two years.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I think someone like Huckabee had no real moral convictions, he did what he felt helped him build his brand. When it was decent deeds while Gov or disgusting hatred afterwards, if it profited him in his mind, it was just as justified.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad…hate to disagree but my impression of Huckabee is of a man corrupted by power and money…..much of that in the days after his governorship.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Principled people, who are like that to their core, don’t become such horrible bigots as Huckabee became. It was residing inside him all the time, when it benefited him to let it out, he did with a vengeance. Like many pols, he looked out primarily for what was best for him. That’s why it was so easy for him to become so horrible. Could Obama be bribed into becoming like that?
AdLib an hour ago
I think about many of the Dems who acted as principled as Huckabee appeared to be and I can’t think of one who turned 180 degrees into such a nasty person.
AdLib an hour ago
After their peak as a pol that is. What Dem Gov turned as rotten like Huckabee after leaving office?
AdLib an hour ago
Generally, I agree with you….but in this case I think the sinister power of money overwhelmed…….as to bad Dems…..well I can think of several Governors of Illinois…
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I think he played a role of the “good man” because it felt good. Consider Sarah Huckabee Sanders, does a woman like that come from parents who were principled?
AdLib an hour ago
I cannot also think of numerous figures in state government in NJ.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Well…I doubt we will settle this point on this night. I need to be up in 7 hours to plow……between 8 and 12 inches of snow!
MurphTheSurf3

44 minutes ago
I can agree that there have been many Dem pols who got greedy once in power and committed crimes but not turning into a shameless bigot.
AdLib 44 minutes ago
See you next week.
MurphTheSurf3

44 minutes ago
Wow! That’s a lot of plowing! Stay safe and warm!
AdLib 44 minutes ago
Ad…the bigot piece is very much a GOP Mark of Cain.
MurphTheSurf3

44 minutes ago
I have a long road and a lot of surfaces around the farm to do.
MurphTheSurf3

43 minutes ago
Unfortunately. And that needs to be attacked head on by the 2020 Dem Pres!
AdLib 43 minutes ago
Racism in America, that is!
AdLib 43 minutes ago
Good night! This was fun.
MurphTheSurf3

43 minutes ago
Night pal!
AdLib 43 minutes ago

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