Vox Populi – 11-24-2018

Vox Populi, our live weekly chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!

AdLib a day ago

Hey PPO!

AdLib a day ago

Oh, well voting comes first of course. and here’s the donation link:

AdLib a day ago

Sneaky of those Aussies to schedule election day on Black Friday. Do you get 2 votes for the price of 1?

AdLib a day ago

I know, just joking. Though the deals are serious business!

AdLib a day ago

Thanks PPO!

AdLib a day ago

Hey Harleigh! Happy Black Friday…I suppose.

AdLib a day ago

Did you have a nice Thanksgiving?

AdLib a day ago

Damn!

AdLib a day ago

So this was truly a black Friday.

AdLib a day ago

Did you work yesterday?

AdLib a day ago

That would be a nice Thanksgiving!

AdLib a day ago

With what? The only ones who can stop him are Congress and courts.

AdLib a day ago

And Repubs in Congress would just assume to let the country be torn to the ground than stand against Trump.

AdLib a day ago

Okay, sleep well, thanks for stopping by!

AdLib a day ago

Hey Murph!

AdLib a day ago

Folks have been coming one at a time tonight.

AdLib a day ago

Hard to get around after eating all that stuffing I guess.

AdLib a day ago

Did you have a nice Thanksgiving?

AdLib a day ago

If we were having a Black Friday sale on posts, it would be hopping.

AdLib a day ago

I’ve heard many are plowing under or letting crops die. And that Trump bribery money is being held up.

AdLib a day ago

Just being routed to the bigger corparate farms

AdLib a day ago

I though farmers live on a financial edge, how can they get past this season?

AdLib a day ago

That’s what I figured, since you have a co-op there. But those Trump billions aren’t available until after crops have been harvested and even then, they’re stingy about paying out. The most anyone could get is 50% of the crop value I think.

AdLib a day ago

That’s good to hear, you grow primarily veggies? No soybeans?

AdLib a day ago

You’re a sart man, you don’t depend on international trade like many in your co-op. And they still praise Trump?

AdLib a day ago

The difference between Trump voters and Dems is that we feel uneasy when anyone suffers. Much as we’ve discussed that Trump supporters will have to suffer badly before they back away from him.

AdLib a day ago

I’m still not pleased to hear how worried and in trouble many pwople are.

AdLib a day ago

Who voted for this to happen to them.

AdLib a day ago

And kept supporting the man who is crushing them.

AdLib a day ago

Yes, they have become mirrors of Trump as a bully. To want to hurt peope and be unmoved by their hurting is “brave” to such cowards. Now when it is happening to them, I’m sure they expect everyone to sympathize and want to help them…and will be very upset when they are ignored…because Trump can’t let people see that truth.

AdLib a day ago

That kneejerkdom, just following who everyone else is and hating who everyone else does is ignorant and self-destructive. They’re just disposible tools of the wealthy and powerful and too much in denial to listen to that truth and accept it.

AdLib a day ago

It’s like trying to change the minds of cult members. They don’t reason, they will twist everything into validating their beliefs because to accept that they have been fools all along is not preferable.

AdLib a day ago

The perfect rubes to be conned by someone like Trump. If they looked at his history of being opposed to nearly everything he supposedly supports now, that “city slicker”, that “elitist”, that “NY Snob”, their common sense might kick in. Instead, they are following a con man like lemmings and nothing can convince them against walking off the cliff…which is happening right now.

AdLib a day ago

Yep.

AdLib a day ago

I go back and forth, it’s upsetting to hear about the tension in the folks you know there yet I get a little angry at people who continue harming themselves and the rest of the country out of petty fears and hatreds.

AdLib a day ago

It’s a vicious circle, the more they empower him, the more he damages their lives, which makes them angrier and even more supportive of the con man representing their anger.

AdLib a day ago

I’m still trying to figure out if Trump is even smart enough to be an idiot savante. He may simply be the perfect representation of immature, insecure white men and that alone may be his secret of success.

AdLib a day ago

And if you asked them to explain to you how their lives are better than they were 2 years ago?

AdLib a day ago

“Are you better off than you were 2 years ago?” “No but the people we hate aren’t and that’s good enough for us!”

AdLib a day ago

Yes, that’s a good point. I think he is just a desperately insecure man who tries to whip up adoration and passion by pandering to what he thinks his base will be whipped up by.

AdLib a day ago

It’s the basoc con man game of saying and doing exactly what the suckers want to hear and see. It’s not much more complex than that. He knows now that being obnoxious and insulting rallies love for him with the creatures who support him so he keeps pulling that lever harder and harder.

AdLib a day ago

As anyone who knows they’re avoiding the truth would do. Of course they can’t give you one example of how their personal lives have improved under Trump,they know they haven’t. But gratification from watching those they hate be attaced is enough for them.

AdLib a day ago

Trump knows he’s a fraud. That’s why he fights against that appearance so hard. And what 2018 elections proved to him is that his shtick doesn’t work well enough anymore to win elections. He only knows one trick, it worked in 2016 to a degree (many other reasons he’s in the WH like Russia and Comey).

AdLib a day ago

But it doesn’t work well enough anymore. That’s all he’s got. No one but his cult members bought into his BS fear mongering about the invading hordes. Most Americans don’t believe him anymore, he is the fraud who cried wolf and since his border fraud, even more so now. And after Mueller drops the hammer on him, maybe even this upcoming week, the GOP roaches in Congress will scatter.

AdLib a day ago

I think what the Repubs in The House are doing is just about spite. They want to go out having flipped the bird at the Dems before they take over and prove how much Repubs betrayed their oaths of office.

AdLib a day ago

They are pissed off, they are losing all their power and they know that the Dems will hold legit investigations of real outrageous and criminal behavior and it’s eating them up.

AdLib a day ago

Remember all the bogus “investigations” and hearings in The House that Repubs held? Refusing to challenge or subpoena Trumpers who refused to answer or even appear? And Nunes’ phony “investigations”? I think they should hold hearings on Nunes and throw his ass out of The House.

AdLib a day ago

No question that they are poisoning the courts with their unqualified and unfit picks. That will take a while to balance out but it isn’t permanent. As for state houses, Dems won back a lot of power in states, both Gov seats, legislatures and simply killing supermajorities. And when the new census takes place in 2021, under a Dem President, the tables may be turned for the last time.

AdLib a day ago

Very kind of you to say but you are too. And I think many of those Dems who came out this year and ran for office, remember the bad times under Repub control too. So way more than 1% I think.

AdLib a day ago

I do think that knowing the truth has become more important to many in the era of the lying Trump. Things are different, the turnout was remarkable, people know they have to pay attention. To Climate Change, gun control, women’s rights, racial justice, we need to remember that this wasn’t an activist nation before Trump and now it is.

AdLib a day ago

Yes it was dramatic. More people voted Dem this year than voted for Trump in 2016.

AdLib a day ago

That’s unheard of. But because of gerrymandering, Dems only won a fraction of the seats they should have in the House.

AdLib a day ago

Dems won the popular vote by 8%. That’s huge, not 1%.

AdLib a day ago

Here’s how I’m looking at the scheme of things. In 2020, Dems win big in the popular vote, barely win back The Senate, keep The House and win the WH. In 2020, the census takes place, in 2021, under a Dem government, redistricting takes place, voter rights are enhanced, a Dem AG goes after states that are suppressing voting and the redistricting gives Dems more local and national power that Repubs can’t continue cheating against with a few exceptions.

AdLib a day ago

Well…you also doubted that Dems would win back The House. I understand your hesitation, especially after Trump won, many retain strong doubts about things but I’m results driven. Trump has never gotten over 50% and the stats are that those in the WH only have worse numbers as the years go on. And The Resistence is real and energized by winning.

AdLib a day ago

In most of the swing states, Dems will either have the final say by being in the Gov mansion, having legislative control, or controlling the SOS office.

AdLib a day ago

Wisconsin, PA, MI, NV, AZ all have Dems as Gov who will veto any Repub skewed districts. That’s a big deal. And CA wil add seats as will other Dem or purple states.

AdLib a day ago

The main thing to me is that Dems can get a leg up on gerrymandering and once they do, it’s all downhill for Repubs. Once all the states I mentioned above have fair elections, Repubs will be at a big disadvantage in einning the House back for a generation…at least until they rid themselves of the racist Trump mob.

AdLib a day ago

Trump won by running against a Dem who had record high disapprovals. I can’t think of one Dem who might run who could have the negatives Hillary had?

AdLib a day ago

And Russia can’t pull the same tricks they did in 2016 and Comey can’t upend the election with FBIinvestigations at the last minute. We need to see things as they were, Trump had The Perfect Storm in 2016 and that simply can’t be the same in 2020.

AdLib a day ago

Thanks pall, have a great holiday weekend! See you next week!

AdLib a day ago

pal, that is!

AdLib a day ago

Cheers!

AdLib a day ago