Vox Populi – 11-09-2018

Hey, Ad, how long to go?

pinkpantheroz

BTW, do you need our annual contribution?

pinkpantheroz

Let me know when and where

pinkpantheroz

OK

pinkpantheroz

see you soon

pinkpantheroz

It still aint over… from 2000, now this shit for senate and gubner!!! holy shit and senema in AZ… wow

Harleigh

Law mandates recounts in both florida races.

Harleigh

yep…. esp Broward and Palm Beach

Harleigh

I’m in Broward.

Harleigh

I have voted by mail for years.

Harleigh

Hi all! Congrats on the – not Tsunami – rather a King Tide of victories! Well Done

pinkpantheroz

Has Papayapuss exploded yet? I hear he got off the plane in France and picked a blue with The French Pres.!

pinkpantheroz

I’m finding that the votes are counted at the polls and then the mail ballots and provisionals and overseas….

Harleigh

Ad, agree, but a gradual swell rather than a big surf

pinkpantheroz

i think they said 20% was mail ballots this year.

Harleigh

Ad, …. and to think he adored the French Military Parade! Utter eejit!

pinkpantheroz

Here’s hoping the recounts ‘find’ any missing boxes, packets, other votes. Strange the GOP doesn’t want to count votes. What’s that about, as if we don’t know!

pinkpantheroz

Had to have been recieved by the time polls closed I think.

Harleigh

lol

Harleigh

HAHAHAHAHAHA

pinkpantheroz

recieved.

Harleigh

Evenin’ gents. How is everyone tonight? Or this afternoon?

glenn

hey, glenn, murph

Harleigh

Glenn, good afternoon sat here! Are you happy?

pinkpantheroz

Murph!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–here comes my cynicism again. You were right about the House, and that’s a wonderful win. I really worry about the Senate, though, with so many judgeships open. I can’t help it. But all those governorships and legislatures in addition to the House is a really good start!

glenn

Blue Wave smothers Red Tide, hopefully in Fla as well

pinkpantheroz

PPO–I’m happy about the House, the governorships, and legislatures that we flipped. I’m worried about the Senate.

glenn

Murph–how are you doing tonight?

glenn

Yes, glenn, . Well, the Senate Thugs now have to make nice, because it is their turn in 2020, and they know it right now. I bet some start reversing course with Trump enthusiasm diminishing

pinkpantheroz

PPO–plus it’s still not settled here in GA as to who will be governor, no matter how many times Kemp says he won. Wonder how he knows that before all votes are counted?

glenn

wife yelling about bball games!!! guess I’ll go fall aslep watching game. later taters

Harleigh

Hello gang….one exhausted campaigner here so I do not know how long I will last.

MurphTheSurf3

OK, Harleigh

pinkpantheroz

kemp gets recounted too

Harleigh

Night Harleigh. Take care

glenn

Hey Murph–I’m sure you are exhausted!

glenn

Kemp’s sticky fingers are no longer around the votes, so they may get a less-shonky result.

pinkpantheroz

PPO–Not too sure about the Senate thugs “playing nice”. I think they’ll just double down because they know their time is limited.

glenn

Ad–no doubt that our democracy was saved. So, what is the actual count in the Senate now? Is it the same as it was before the election?

glenn

maybe, glenn, maybe. But we’re all suffeing fatigue just now, so we can simply bask in the victories

pinkpantheroz

Claire’s loss was awful…..she devoted a lot of time to the rural counties to appeal to those for whom Trump policy has been a disaster and she got little for it. Worse, elements of her hard core base, angry that she was not courting them properly, sat it out. The black community really let the campaign down. Sorry, just the bitter truth.

MurphTheSurf3

Ouch, Murph. That must hurt.

pinkpantheroz

Ad–Yeah, hopefully, we can get a runoff. And hopefully, Dems turn out in numbers greater even than the midterms, because now we know what we’re up against.

glenn

PPO….it did……one quote from a black leader tells the tale: “If she wants our votes, come and get them.”

MurphTheSurf3

Sad, that. So many people – on BOTH sides – shooting themselves in the foot, and for what? Stiff necked pride and entrenched beliefs.

pinkpantheroz

Murph–don’t know what to say about Claire’s loss; it was devastating. It’s a double-edged sword that Dems don’t vote in lock step. On the one hand, sometimes that pushback results in good changes. But the other side is that good people like Claire lose their seats because Dems just don’t pull the “D” lever automatically.

glenn

Glenn…..it is a pretty simple decision…..which candidate is most likely to be for us, and which candidate is most like to be against us. Forced choice. Not voting is also a choice.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I would love it if the Senate majority stays the same. I think it will be a high hurdle with 54. As PPO says, maybe some of them are tired of the lying bully’s antics, and will vote accordingly. See, I’m being optimistic!

glenn

Ad….Claire wanted to be part of a restart for Dems in the collar and rural counties……and had her core done its job then she would have remained in place to work at that…..I told one of our staff that we always get what we vote for and the black community has voted for someone who hates them. Bad move.

MurphTheSurf3

Unfortunately, Murph, some just don’t get it.

pinkpantheroz

Yep….but they will howl like hell……when they are squeezed.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….one of the things that Claire found most disturbing was the Balkanization of American political life.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–was the turnout low in MO? Again, the black voters have finally found their voice (or maybe they have found their voice again), and they are making pols work for their votes. Not saying it’s a good or a bad thing; just recognizing what is happening. I think sometimes Dems forget the simple decision as you say. They want to make sure they are heard; and in doing so, cut off their noses to spite their faces, as my grandmother used to say.

glenn

Just now in Twitter with video: Caught On Video: Concerned citizen sees ballots being transported in private vehicles & transferred to rented truck on Election night. This violates all chain of custody requirements for paper ballots. Were the ballots destroyed & replaced by set of fake ballots? Investigate now!

pinkpantheroz

Broward County!!!

pinkpantheroz

Glenn, turnout was up….most up among GOP….but up by Dems. The black community lagged AND here is the kicker mid campaign efforts speared by Claire to register new voters in that community worked wonders….but did they vote? We have the overall numbers and one wonders.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–for sure if there’s a runoff, it will be a national circus, even more so than the election was. Kemp and the repubs will continue to try to suppress votes, and lie about Abrams’ record, and throw racist mud wherever they can.

glenn

Ad. I agree.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–so did the black community actually vote for Claire’s opponent? That is a shocker!

glenn

Glenn…no they did not….enough sat it out to deprive the campaign of sorely needed votes. I know of a number who “wanted to send a message.”

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–However many seats repubs have in the Senate, it’s going to be an interesting two years coming up. I am so encouraged by the number of women, Latinas, and even Native Americans who won offices across the nation. The House is going to look more and more like the real America, not just white men’s America.

glenn

Murph–I only hope they are happy with the “message” they sent. One would think that they would have learned from the lying bully’s election that sitting out to “send a message” is definitely sending the wrong message. Unfortunately, the rest of us have to live with their “message” too.

glenn

Ad…perhaps…..frankly Claire fought very hard for a number of those rural areas…keeping hospitals alive, getting infrastructure repairs that were essential, heading up efforts to direct federal employment dollars their way. And she did town halls everywhere. Hard worker.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn….I have seen a number of black leaders here, esp. the church based ones, decide to use their time better than in efforts to activate the black vote here.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…that softening up is what Claire did a lot of……she is practical but also principled.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad and Murph–I think every Dem should take note of how Beto conducted his campaign. He stayed on HIS message, and refused to be baited by either cruz or the lying bully. I saw a clip from Samantha Bee’s show where she interviewed some of cruz’s voters. One women was complaining about Beto’s nickname, and how she thought it was fake. The interviewer then told her that cruz’s real name was Rafael Theodore Cruz, and she said, “well, perhaps his parents called him ted during childhood and it stuck.” DUH! You can’t really fix stupidity!

glenn

glenn….that is so….Stupid and Zealous…..

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, this time in GA, maybe they will have enough working machines and enough ballots and booths to do the job. It will be interesting to see

pinkpantheroz

Glenn….as to Beto…..yes he has real charm, wit, and sense. Liked his approach.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–I guess it’s going to be a slow process to get people to understand that their votes count, if only they would use them.

glenn

Ad, in a runoff, are third party candidtes alloed as well, or just the two giggies?

pinkpantheroz

Well…I wanted to stop by….but I am falling asleep here….So one we go. Ad, your Message Message is spot on….bratty kids. Yes, glenn…so, so, so, slow……good night to PPO as well.

MurphTheSurf3

biggies! sorry, brain faster than fingers

pinkpantheroz

Murph–yes, it is stupid and zealous, and that’s how cruz won. Hard core republicans weren’t listening to Beto’s message of unity; they were only listening to cruz’s trivialities about nicknames and of course, his hate for all things liberal.

glenn

goodnight, Murph. Congrats to you for all your work.

pinkpantheroz

Wishing you all well…..peace.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, I’m going to head off to the shops. Well, Done, all Blue voters! Perdition to Orange felons!

pinkpantheroz

ciao glenn

pinkpantheroz

PPO–Yeah, how hard is it to get the machines working when you know exactly when the date of the election is? If anything showed what Kemp and his minions were trying to do, all those non-working –no power cords and not enough machines in heavily Dem/African American districts–nothing else will. That was so blatant, it makes my blood boil. Yet, no one is holding Kemp accountable.

glenn

‘Night, Murph. Get some well-deserved rest.

glenn

PPO–That is a good point, though, about the third-party candidate, because I think the one here in GA did take votes away from Abrams.

glenn

I know it’s early, but Ad, do you think Beto will be convinced to run for president in 2020? Do you think he should?

glenn

Ad–I enjoyed election night, too. I agree; the more I see of the results finally coming in; the more I’m encouraged by Dem wins in other places besides the House. The governorships and legislatures are almost as important, maybe even more, with gerrymandering and state judges on the line.

glenn

Ad–yeah, I’d like to see him run, too. I think he could excite the Dem electorate almost as much as Obama did.

glenn

As I’ve been saying for a few years now, Dems need to get their ground game together. Abrams did a great job of registering voters with her New Georgia Project. We need a nationwide New America project to register more voters, especially minorities and young people. And BTW, wasn’t it great to see the surge of young people voting?

glenn

Perhaps if Abrams doesn’t win the GA governorship, she should be persuaded to run a nationwide project to register voters. She would be awesome at it.

glenn

I agree; it is looking good. Winning a red seat in a red state is not difficult; it’s flipping them that are, and Dems did do a good job of that in many places. We just have to keep the wave rolling!

glenn

Yeah, that would work for Abrams, too. I think she ran a campaign much like Beto’s where she focused on her message. However, she had to get off script many times to talk about Kemp’s suppression, but whenever she did, she also talked about how she won the court case against him for suppressing votes. I think she is awesome!

glenn

Don’t think we’ll ever wipe out trumpism, but we sure can put them back under their rocks and stop giving them normalcy.

glenn

Yeah, I think the world was watching, too. Macron now has to put up with the lying bully for the weekend.

glenn

Ad, always great chatting with you. You help me put things in perspective. Time for me to sign off now. Won’t be here next week because I’ll be in AZ visiting friends. Take care.

glenn

Thanks, ‘nite.

glenn