Vox Populi, our live weekly chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 4 hours ago
CUsoon, Ad.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Okey dokes!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Gideon!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hello All. What a hell of a week! I think things are about to come to a head. Thank you Obama for calling out trumpie.
Gideon
2 hours ago
My thanks as well! I do think this week was a turning point. Trump’s tantrums seem more futile than scary.
AdLib 2 hours ago
And is there any better blood pressure medicine than watching Obama give a common sense speech in favor of sanity?
AdLib 2 hours ago
The more things close in, the more unhinged he becomes. I think it is clear that he laundered money for Russians among other bad things.
Gideon
2 hours ago
Only a mentally disturbed person could keep digging his own grave day after day with all the investigations and cases building against him. He’s clearly a crook and the whole point of trying to get Kavanaugh on the SCOTUS is to protect him from being prosecuted.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Unfortunately, Kavanaugh will be confirmed. That is a travesty.
Gideon
2 hours ago
What is very encouraging is that Dems have a shot at winning back The Senate in Nov along with The House. Impeachment and stopping Trump could be on the horizon.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Yep, I am a bit upset that the Repubs in The Senate would be so corrupt as to rush through this confirmation and hide so much about Kavanaugh. They are as corrupt as Trump and should be removed from the Senate.
AdLib 2 hours ago
All I can hope is that after Dems take back the WH in 2020, the seat of a RW SCOTUS judge comes up and the balance can be shifted back.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hi everyone, sorry I’m late
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
No worries, PPO. I think others are running late too.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hello gideon, Nice to see a fresh face!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Poor Rafa Nadal, having to pull out of the Open. Pity trumpd fater didn’t do the same.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO – Do you think this week is a turning point on Trump?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Trump’s father!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Hang in there RBG.
Gideon
2 hours ago
Ad, I’m so frustrated at Congress. Will they act? I won’t hiold my breath.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Gideon – Absolutely, I do worry about her.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey FD!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey peeps! How aire ya?
Fuzzy Dunlop
2 hours ago
Mueller may ignore the 60 day convention. I hope he does and nails the bastards to the wall.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
FD!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
How about that Bob Woodward eh?
Fuzzy Dunlop
2 hours ago
glenn is in da house!
Fuzzy Dunlop
2 hours ago
PPO – Republicans in Congress are wholly corrupt, they are accessories to an ongoing criminal enterprise. Only removing them from power can change that. Look at Lindsey Graham, he’s drunk on Trump Kool Aid now, he’s spouting conspiracy theories, they’ve all gone nuts!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Heh, Heh! FD, the WH is utterly paranoid and panicked now. Lie detectors at 10 paces!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Good evening, all. Hello to you Gideon. Nice meeting you.
glenn
2 hours ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 2 hours ago
glenn!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
HOw is m’lady tonight?
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Hey Gideon! Welcome to the coolest site on the net!
Fuzzy Dunlop
2 hours ago
Who do you think wrote The NY Times op ed about the craziness in the nuthouse.
Gideon
2 hours ago
They all did a para.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Jeff Sessions! Ha, maybe Pence!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Hey FD–how’s it going?
glenn
an hour ago
Ryan?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Yep. So no one can sell out anyone!
Gideon
an hour ago
Hey Ad and PPO. Hope you’re both doing well.
glenn
an hour ago
outside of a nasty little head cold, I’m doing great. I hope you are, as well.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO – If I was Mueller, I wouldn’t worry about the 60 day rule in indicting Roger Stone or others but I wouldn’t indict Trump or his family members until after the election to take away their talking point about election interference. Though the irony is, they were happy about it in 2016 when Comey did it!
AdLib an hour ago
Loved the photo of Obama over Biden’s shoulder saying… put in the word ‘lodestone’ Trust me!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD–Sorry to hear about the head cold. Get well soon.
glenn
an hour ago
good poing gideon
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
on the mend, actually. It may be gone tomorrow.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD – Woodward’s book coming out as that NYT Op-Ed has made a profound turn for Trump now. He can’t be seen as sane anymore by those who care.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–good point about Mueller waiting. He’s smart enough to wait. He’s played his cards close to his chest so far, so we’ll see.
glenn
an hour ago
Gideon – No idea who wrote the Op-Ed. Any guesses?
AdLib an hour ago
Ad, one look at his recent rallies tells us all we need to know about the royal unravelling! Tee Hee Hee!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
I still think the Dems must focus on what they can do and who we are as Americans and not bash trumpie. His base simply double downs. Get people to have Hope again and want to vote.
Gideon
an hour ago
Melania?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Gramma is too good for the stepford wife!
Gideon
an hour ago
Oh G, people want to vote, alright. on both sides.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD Oooooh, hadn’t thought that! Maybe Don JR?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD – Sorry you’re dealing with that cold. Lots of fluids, sleep and listening to Obama’s speech today should help.
AdLib an hour ago
thanks ad. I’m beginning to get over it. Lots of water and coffee and naps.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
I’ll for sure check out big O’s speech. Damn, I miss that guy!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–yes, between the op ed and Woodward’s book, the lying bully is between a rock and a hard place. The problem is, those who should care….i.e. the cowardly congressional critters…don’t. I wonder if they will finally begin some investigations after they get Kavanaugh appointed, and after the midterms, so it looks like they’re “doing something”. And, then they can say, “See we investigated (and of course, they will find nothing wrong), so there’s no reason for Dems to start any more investigations.”
glenn
an hour ago
Irish Coffee, FD! May not do much but sure tastes good!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD–glad to hear you’re on the mend.
glenn
an hour ago
That it does P. That it does!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–aah, spring. My favorite season!
glenn
an hour ago
In case you missed Trump having a senior moment trying to pronounce “anonymous”:
AdLib an hour ago
Not Fake President Obama is now speaking. Hooray! But will it help?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Gideon–I agree, Dems must focus on what they can do for the American people. President Obama’s speech today was a very big, positive step in that direction.
glenn
an hour ago
I Ann taking wagers. The day after mid terms, Sessions is out.
Gideon
an hour ago
FD – Did you see “plaid shirt guy” at Trump’s rally last night? Pretty amusing!
AdLib an hour ago
yeah, that was funny. You know he was basically miming…what the fuck?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Gideon–and Lindsey Graham is in as AG! Or jeanine pirro.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – Thanks! Mueller has been such a professional and I think many are underestimating just how powerful his case against Trump will be.
AdLib an hour ago
Did you see how the removed the guy behind him in the plaid shirt. Supposedly he was not excited enough.
Gideon
an hour ago
Yes, ad. Saw him replaced. BTW remember the woman behind Kavanaugh? Turns out that the sign for White Power is also American sign language for Asshole!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
TRUMP IS TOAST!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–plaid shirt guy was great! Did you also see the girl behind him wiping her nose on the flag?
glenn
an hour ago
That’s hilarious P!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Need to see that again!!!
Gideon
an hour ago
They were replaced by Trump’s paid actors.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD–I wouldn’t count out the lying bully yet. He still has the cowardly congressional critters in his corner. Why, I don’t know, but they are still there.
glenn
an hour ago
Gideon – I agree that Dems should have a positive message about protecting the ACA, Roe, clean air and water, better wages, etc. but they can also paint their opponents as Trump’s army who will let him run out of control.
AdLib an hour ago
I just wish plaid guy argued about being moved and stayed there!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
glenn, I think there is such a Mueller storm coming his way, that when it hits, even the GOP traitors will have no choice but to act.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad, yes, and keep asking where are all the coal and steel jobs and when will the plants reopen?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I would have started screaming LOCK HIM UP! In a rubber room, with one of those jackets that buttons in the back!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD–I don’t know if it’s real or not, but saw a screenshot of a supposed ad for people to be paid to attend the lying bullies Nuremberg hillbilly rallies. Supposedly, they were to get $75 an hour for a five-hour gig.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – I say this without exaggeration, the GOP is walking the same path as Nazi sympathizers. They know that the man they’re following is derranged and evil but they have made the choice to be under his umbrella than risk opposing him. They are greedy and cowards devoid of any morals or ethics. They are the real enemies of the people, not the press.
AdLib an hour ago
FD Trump’s arms have already assumed the straightjacket position/1′
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
not surprising Glenn.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ha! That’s true P. That’s his Mussolini impression.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO – Obama being out in public speaking may not be a massive impact but it’s very affirmative and helps put the insanity of Trump in perspective. It will have a more subtle affect but I do think it will keep Dems sane and turn out more voters.
AdLib an hour ago
As was mentioned before. The fact that the house and senate rebublicans are standing by and allowing the country to go to ruin boggles the mind. The fact that only a small amount of money was allocated to stop the Russians meddling in our elections is nuts. Russia is Putin’s puppet while Putin is messing up our elections. Senators stand up and have some morals.
Gideon
an hour ago
FD–I know what you’re saying, and I’m hoping you’re correct, but I’ve watched repubs justify any and all of the lying bully’s shit, so I’m not so sure they won’t come up with…reasons to not do anything.
glenn
an hour ago
Hopefully so, Ad At least it shows what Sanity looks like!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I certainly understand your skepticism glenn.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–I agree with the Nazi sympathizer analogy.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – You nailed it! I think Graham is aggressively sniffing Trump’s behind to become the next AG. He’s helping shove Sessions out, wonder why???
AdLib an hour ago
i’m beginning to think there is only a silly little millimeter’s difference between Graham and Trump.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Gideon – Yes, they removed plaid guy and two others and replaced them with Stepford Girls.
AdLib an hour ago
Paid actors, Ad, I’d bet money on it.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Gideon–I have been trying to figure out just what it is that republicans are thinking by letting their party be hijacked by this idiot. Ad keeps pointing out to me that they want to stay in office, and going against the lying bully right now, at least, is a death sentence for their chances for re-election. So, it’s power over country, every time.
glenn
an hour ago
Understudies, if you will!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD, Yes. The crowd behind Windbag are carefully placed. Plaid didn’t read the script properly
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – Yep though I think too many Dems fell for being trolled by the woman with the White Power hand sign. Not important, she was trolling, never feed trolls.
AdLib an hour ago
Hey, that was one of those double entendre’s.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Maybe Trump stiffed him. Nah, not Trump! He would never…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
No Soup For You!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO – And Dems should talk about how gas, groceries, appliances and all kinds of things are getting more expensive under Trump. They may have gotten a couple of bucks from the tax cuts but they’re paying more out of pocket for necessities.
AdLib an hour ago
And middles class wages are frozen solid.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–Graham is another one whose tweets will come back to haunt him. You know, those tweets where he called the lying bully a kook, and unfit for office. Of course, if you’re a republican, anything you said two years ago doesn’t count, unless it was said against a Democrat.
glenn
an hour ago
Ad, Cost of living exceeding Wage increases, inflation rising, so mortgage rates will rise as well. Tough times ahead.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
glenn for the GOP, time didn’t exist before Jan. 2017.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Gideon – The GOP is wholly corrupt. They are embracing Putin’s invasion, Trump’s attacks on the press and law and order…because they can profit from it. That’s as simple as it is. They are amoral and greedy.
AdLib an hour ago
FD–yeah, I have a healthy dose of skepticism after watching the lying bully take office.
glenn
an hour ago
FD–exactly. Just as time didn’t exist before President Obama took office in 2008.
glenn
an hour ago
No one could blame ya glenn. The GOP congress critters will eventual save their own hides before they save Trump’s ginormous behind!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–exactly. I’ve had lying bully supporters tell me the same thing. That as long as they are making money, they will support him. Nothing else matters.
glenn
an hour ago
It’s sure looking like An Ominous future for It.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I think the public outcry will be so bad, that they’ll have no choice.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – I always thought that whoever the Dem nom is in 2020 could have one ad of just cutting together the attacks of Graham, Cruz and the rest of Repubs against Trump in the primary. Maybe say, “Let top Republicans tell you why you shouldn’t vote for Trump.”
AdLib an hour ago
FD We’re crying out already! Zip from Congress
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD–It will be interesting to see, if we actually do have a blue wave, and Dems take over the house, if those lame duck representatives will then try to do something about the lying bully, or at least speak out.
glenn
an hour ago
Wait till Mueller raps things up P.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–Yup. Those would be some fantastic ads!
glenn
an hour ago
Ad, plus a few from Trump saying let Trump tell you why you shouldn’t vote for Trump.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – Yep, the numbers don’t lie (like Trump). Americans have actually been losing money since the tax cuts due to inflation. And the real secret Repubs are keeping until after the election, the deficit is skyrocketing under them and Trump and they will declare that Medicare and SS must be slashed to bring it down. Always part of their insidious game plan.
AdLib an hour ago
i’m hopeful. Call me a cock-eyed optimist!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–not to mention in a “roaring economy”, we cannot give civil servants the raises they were promised.
glenn
an hour ago
Vale Burt. Hammer Down, Bandit!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD–I’ll call you CEO from now on.
glenn
an hour ago
PPO – Every time Trump opens his mouth, it’s an ad for voting against him. For non-racists, that is.
AdLib an hour ago
yeah P! so long good buddy…RIP!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
After what happened in 2016, I do not believe the polls. Will have to wait and see.
Gideon
an hour ago
Will it be ‘Better the racist windbag you know than the liberal socialist Dem you dont” , Ad?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Burt had a lot of health issues along the way, sorry to see him go.
AdLib an hour ago
That we will Gideon. I just think there is a real shit storm heade Trump’s way.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Gideon–you and I seem to be “kindred spirits”. Ad and others here on the Planet have been keeping me out of the depths of cynicism and skepticism by showing me all the signs of a blue wave. I’m still holding on to my skepticism, though, until after the midterms. High-five to you.
glenn
an hour ago
I enjoyed many of his movies. such that they were.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD – We should be optimistic. So much destruction under Trump but it has built a huge Dem wave to take back The House and maybe even The Senate in Nov then maybe Dems could win full control in 2020. So much could be fixed then!
AdLib an hour ago
FD, it is so frustrating how many shitstorms have been d=falling on them, but no effect
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
It certainly better be, especially for the gen Xers and Millennials. They have the most future at stake.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
‘Deliverance” Not bad!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
it’s coming P. THE BIG ONE!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Gideon – You don’t have to believe in the polls but believe in results. Dems have been overperforming in every election since 2016. Believe in Dems winning in Red States, it’s happening!
AdLib an hour ago
THAT, was an intense film.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Hurricane Mueller incoming! Oh, please let it be soon!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Deliverence was a great film!
AdLib an hour ago
FD–One of the best parts of President Obama’s speech was that he urged the millennials and X/ers to get out there and VOTE. Here’s hoping they show up in record numbers!
glenn
an hour ago
Yeah Ad, there were even a few future Trump supports in it.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Burt could act when he needed to.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
it’s really their future glenn.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Oh, no doubt P.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD–yes it is, and I hope they take charge of it.
glenn
an hour ago
Remember when trump sold that property in Florida to the Russian business man for millions more tha it was worth? Can we say money laundering.
Gideon
an hour ago
Anyone looking forward to the Alex Jones/Marco Rubio clash in Madison Square Garden?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – I don’t see it. By 2020, Trump will have more criminals all around him, the Mueller report will be out and he’ll probably be impeached and more people working for him will come out and expose his insanity. And the economy will likely slow or go into recession. It only gets worse for Trump from here.
AdLib an hour ago
sure Gideon. SAY IT SAY IT!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
i think Little Marco can take him. Jones is a puss.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Gideon – YES!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Speaking of Burt, our home in Jensen Beach Florida was about 40 miles from his Jupiter ranch. We used to drive by it all the time on the way to our daughter’s house. He certainly was an interesting man.
glenn
an hour ago
Well, Twitter finally did the right thing and banned Jones for life. Sure took them long enough.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–Jones/Rubio on PayPerView!
glenn
an hour ago
PPO – For many of us, it’s just been too hard to accept that the GOP would be this corrupt and that Trump is really mentally ill and a puppet of Putin. As bizarre as it all is, it is true. Repubs in Congress have drunk the Kool Aid, they are lost to America.
AdLib an hour ago
Longest Yard was another good Reynolds film.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD – and now the RWNJs are squealing ‘Censorship’ !
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Oh sure P. They think free speech is a one way street. Their way, of course.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
I do not see impeachment. Think about what’s waiting in the wings. If by some incredible stroke of luck trumpie is removed, we have Pence. That man reminds me of a General in Hitler’s army. Pence scares me.
Gideon
an hour ago
True, FD. Oscar performance in ‘Boogie Nights”
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Gideon – I think Mueller is uncovering a long history of Trump and Russian money laundering. No US banks would lend to Trump anymore, he had to go for dirty money.
AdLib an hour ago
FD – Yep, loved Longest Yard. He was great in Boogie Nights too.
AdLib an hour ago
Gideon, put Pence in a blackk SS officer’s uniform, and he’d look right at home in da turd reich.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
oh, forgot about that one ad. Great movie. Great cast too.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Hahaha Fuzzy.
Gideon
an hour ago
Ad–Do you think all of those who have left the republican party will go back after the lying bully is gone, or will they continue as independents?
glenn
an hour ago
Very cool, glenn, cruising by Burt’s ranch!
AdLib an hour ago
It’s hard to say glenn, considering the mysteries of the republican mind.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
brb
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Gideon – I think Trump will be impeached but not removed. Just need a majority of The House to impeach but 2/3 of Senate and that will never happen. I think we need to run against Trump in 2020, Pence is scary, not very likeable but he could be more effective in destroying our democracy.
AdLib an hour ago
Apparently thousands of tribute FB and Twitter comments were censored because they showed Burt’s centerfold photo! Since apologized!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Gideon–although pence is a religious bigot, I believe that congress would actually stand up to him, especially if we have a Dem house. I know that sounds contradictory to my skepticism, but I believe even republicans can only stomach so much. I could be wrong, though.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – I think the GOP is now a party for racism and ignorance. I don’t think it ever goes back to what it was. Hopefully, that means that they will have a civil war within their party for many years as Dems retain power.
AdLib an hour ago
Pence may be a fundamentalist bigoted hypocrite, but at least he knows how Gummint is supposed to work.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD/CEO–the mysteries of the republican mind, for sure!
glenn
an hour ago
Funny how trumpie is worrying about perjuring himself if he speaks to Muellers team. Someone needs to tell him if he speaks the truth he does not have to worry about perjury. Yikes.
Gideon
an hour ago
Ad–I feel the same way about the republican party; I think they have definitely crossed the rubicon, leaving them with supporters who are too bigoted and nasty to get out of their own way.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – I don’t know about that. I think Pence would “rule” as a disciple of Trump and do his best to use Trump’s base to continue to scare Repuns in Congress from challenging him. He is a RW religious nut, he has very dangerous and oppressive ideas. Would rather keep Trump in and use his horribleness against him to defeat Repubs across the board.
AdLib an hour ago
14 days in Jail for Papa Doc! WTF?????
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I don’t think Pence is innocent in this Russia mess though.
Fuzzy Dunlop
44 minutes ago
Gideon–the lying bully could stop the Mueller investigation easily by testifying under oath. But as you say, he cannot do that without lying. Even his own attorney, Guiliani has said so.
glenn
44 minutes ago
WTF indeed!
Fuzzy Dunlop
44 minutes ago
Ad–I know, between the lying bully and pence, it’s, as my grandmother used to say, “six of one and half a dozen of another.”
glenn
43 minutes ago
Gideon – I’ve learned to just accept the obvious when it comes to Trump. He would perjure himself because he did conspire with Russia and would lie about it. It’s ridiculous how he and his cronies complain about a perjury trap. A rat trap only catches rats. A perjury trap would only catch perjurers. Though, there really isn’t such a thing as a perjury trap with regards to Mueller.
AdLib 43 minutes ago
If we take back even just the house, Pence won’t get much done.
Fuzzy Dunlop
43 minutes ago
PPO and CEO–yeah, 14 days! It’s like summer camp!
glenn
42 minutes ago
Ad lib I agree, much rather see trumpie stay until 2020 as if someone strong, with a good left hook goes against trump, he is done for. I think PENce would be able to smooth talk his base and rally the evangelicals.
Gideon
42 minutes ago
Well, Trump would be a perjuring rat!
Fuzzy Dunlop
42 minutes ago
ad, Trump should be charged with Perjury already. He blatantly lied whilst taking the Oath of Office!
pinkpantheroz
41 minutes ago
Ad and Gideon–do you think Mueller will subpoena the lying bully, and if he does, what will he (lb) do?
glenn
41 minutes ago
glenn – The GOP has crossed that line now, between human decency and hateful authoritarianism. Fox News has been programming them to get to this point for decades. There’s no turning back now.
AdLib 41 minutes ago
The problem with that Gideon is that Trump is unravelling, fast. He’s truly unstable…and no genius either.
Fuzzy Dunlop
41 minutes ago
I just hope his handlers have hidden the nuclear codes from Odious Maximus!
Fuzzy Dunlop
40 minutes ago
PPO – I was surprised too but apparently, it’s not unusual to get a 14 day sentance for lying to the FBI. At least he’ll be a convict the rest of his life.
AdLib 40 minutes ago
He was a little fish. Bigger one are bing caught in the net.
Gideon
38 minutes ago
Ah, Felony prison sentence, so no gummint security clearance or job
pinkpantheroz
38 minutes ago
FD–that’s what worries me the most about the lying bully staying in office–he can put us into a war with a tweet. He is so obsessed with his own ego, that he’ll do almost anything to distract from his insanity.
glenn
38 minutes ago
FD – I never believed that Flynn lied to Pence about his contacts with Russia, I think Pence knew but the cover up was to feign ignorance and surprise and lay it all on Flynn.
AdLib 38 minutes ago
Exactly glenn.
Fuzzy Dunlop
38 minutes ago
Oh, Pence had to know. Wasn’t he heading Trump’s campaign?
Fuzzy Dunlop
37 minutes ago
Ad–it’s the republican way–never take responsibility, and blame it on the nearest scapegoat!
glenn
37 minutes ago
straight out of the Roy Cohn playbook.
Fuzzy Dunlop
36 minutes ago
Gideon – Yes, by 2020, Trump should be battered badly and raging like a maniac. Put him on a debate stage with a smart, confident, mentally stable person and he’ll go down. His act worked in 2016 and many ignorant people bought into his con, in 2020 he’ll have a record that will tie him down.
AdLib 36 minutes ago
FD – Agreed!!! And that’s insuting rats!
AdLib 35 minutes ago
it is, it is!
Fuzzy Dunlop
35 minutes ago
Signing out all. Until next Friday.
Gideon
35 minutes ago
Ad–after watching Kamala Harris question Kavanaugh the other day, I’d love to see her debate the lying bully. She’d have him in a puddle on the floor in no time. Not saying she should be the Dem nom, although she looks good; just saying her interrogation of Kavanaugh was masterful!
glenn
34 minutes ago
nice meeting you Gideon…so to speak.
Fuzzy Dunlop
34 minutes ago
G’night Gideon. Take care.
glenn
34 minutes ago
Ad, do we really contemplate Trump still being here in 2020? God Help Us!
pinkpantheroz
34 minutes ago
PPO – Yes, that’s what impeachment’s for, impeaching a president who has violated his oath of office and the Constitution. That’s why I think, once Mueller’s report on Trump is out, Dems will have no choice but to impeach him.
AdLib 34 minutes ago
Cheerio Gideon. Nice meeting you
pinkpantheroz
34 minutes ago
She’s a former prosecutor glenn.
Fuzzy Dunlop
34 minutes ago
FD–I know, and she must have been very good at her job. It was a pleasure to watch her in action!
glenn
33 minutes ago
FD, glenn, she was brilliant! Showed him up for the shifty liar he is.
pinkpantheroz
33 minutes ago
Kavenaugh didn’t know whether to shit or go blind!
Fuzzy Dunlop
33 minutes ago
Ad–Dems may have no choice but to impeach the lying bully, but do you think there will be enough votes in the Senate to convict him?
glenn
32 minutes ago
25th?
pinkpantheroz
32 minutes ago
glenn – No, I think Mueller will just go forward with his report than be delayed for a long time fighting to get Trump to talk. I don’t think he needs Trump to talk to him, he just needed to show that he tried as hard as he could to offer him the opportunity to give his side.
AdLib 32 minutes ago
FD–I do think he may have at least pissed his pants, if not shit them!
glenn
32 minutes ago
Kav is a real ferret face!
Fuzzy Dunlop
31 minutes ago
Ad–that’s a good take on it. That should be the question pundits and Dems should be asking of the lying bully? Put it on him, such as, “Why wouldn’t you want to talk to Mueller to tell him your side?”
glenn
31 minutes ago
glenn – I was very impressed with Harris taking down Kavanaugh. I have mixed feelings about her but no question in my mind, she was the most effective Dem in the hearings.
AdLib 30 minutes ago
snubbing the father of a slain Parland shooting victim is all anybody needs to know about Kav’s carachter, or lack there-of.
Fuzzy Dunlop
29 minutes ago
PPO – I don’t see how Trump isn’t there until 2020. The Senate won’t get a 2/3 to remove him under impeachment so the 25th Amendment wouldn’t do it either, the same vote would be needed by House and Senate. He’s there but he can be neutered by a Dem Congress.
AdLib 29 minutes ago
Spot on, FD. The Arrogant shit
pinkpantheroz
29 minutes ago
Ad–I understand Harris has some baggage. I would still love to see her “debate” the lying bully, though. It wouldn’t even be a contest, IMO.
glenn
29 minutes ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 28 minutes ago
Just got on….pouring here and no internet until now!
MurphTheSurf3
28 minutes ago
Hiya Murph!
pinkpantheroz
28 minutes ago
What a week aye?
MurphTheSurf3
28 minutes ago
Murph!
glenn
28 minutes ago
Trumpo would be snorting up a storm!
Fuzzy Dunlop
28 minutes ago
Glad to see you all……
MurphTheSurf3
28 minutes ago
Murph–funny. I lose my t.v. when it pours; but not my internet.
glenn
28 minutes ago
Sorry, folks, got to do the shopping. Take care and see you all next week’
pinkpantheroz
28 minutes ago
Hey Murph! That it’s been.
Fuzzy Dunlop
27 minutes ago
PPO nice to say hello to you.
MurphTheSurf3
27 minutes ago
‘Nite, PPO. Have a good one; see you next week.
glenn
27 minutes ago
Welcome to the great unravelling!
Fuzzy Dunlop
27 minutes ago
Cheers, Murph
pinkpantheroz
27 minutes ago
Gee, what might you have been chatting about?
MurphTheSurf3
27 minutes ago
glenn – Indeed, Trump’s refusal to be questioned should be rubbed in his face in the 2020 race. Coward, liar, traitor? It should all be thrown right at his fat head.
AdLib 27 minutes ago
Later P!
Fuzzy Dunlop
27 minutes ago
FD–that’s a good way to put it, but the unraveling began a long time ago.
glenn
27 minutes ago
Ad…2020 race….you think he is going to make it that far?
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
glenn – I’m not against Harris running. Right now I’m liking Warren and Beto more.
AdLib 26 minutes ago
It’s sped up considerably in the last few weeks.
Fuzzy Dunlop
26 minutes ago
The GOP chair in my county is quoted as saying “Jesus Save Us” when the editorial broke in the news.
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
Ad–yup, along with those ads you previously mentioned of republicans talking about how unfit he is. It would drive him crazy trying to defend himself.
glenn
26 minutes ago
Glad you could make it though Murph!
AdLib 25 minutes ago
Wh is “us,” Murph?
Fuzzy Dunlop
25 minutes ago
We are supposed to have a lot more rain.
MurphTheSurf3
25 minutes ago
FD ?????
MurphTheSurf3
25 minutes ago
OH! Us…..probably the GOP in the County….
MurphTheSurf3
25 minutes ago
The “us,” your friend was asking Jeebus to save.
Fuzzy Dunlop
24 minutes ago
Ad–Would love to see Beto run. He is well-spoken, can talk off the cuff about any issue, and has a grasp of the issues. I like him. Still not sure about Warren, I think she could do more good in the Senate still, especially if Dems take the house.
glenn
24 minutes ago
We are getting hit by a lot of backwash from Trump policies and there are signs that the county may not be as safely red as it has been for 20 years.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
I do too glenn.
Fuzzy Dunlop
24 minutes ago
Murph – Don’t see how Trump could ever be removed. You need 2/3 of Senate to remove under impeachment, 2/3 of House and Senate under 25th Amendment. The GOP has become amoral. Nothing can get them to risk opposing Trump. How could Trump be removed?
AdLib 24 minutes ago
Maybe we should have a Harris/O’Rourke ticket, or even vice versa.
glenn
23 minutes ago
Oh well Murph.
Fuzzy Dunlop
23 minutes ago
Ad….if he is indicted? If he is someone who should be but his office blocks it for now? Public pressure, party pressure?
MurphTheSurf3
23 minutes ago
Well peeps, I too must get some rest. Take care all.
Fuzzy Dunlop
22 minutes ago
FD…fare thee well…..
MurphTheSurf3
22 minutes ago
Murph – Do you think Mueller would indict him? If so, do you think a SCOTUS with Kavanugh would allow a criminal prosecution of him?
AdLib 22 minutes ago
FD–g’night. Have a good week.
glenn
22 minutes ago
Ad….Mueller might…..and if the outcry is sufficient SCOTUS will concur.
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
And, I’m out of here, too. Sorry, Murph, would love to stick around to chat with you, but have to get some sleep. Take care, see you next week. G’night Ad.
glenn
21 minutes ago
Seeya glenn!
AdLib 21 minutes ago
Actually I wonder if Cavenaugh has place some impeachment blocks in his own road.
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
Bye Glenn…..looks like it was a good discussion.
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
I don’t know Murph, I don’t think Mueller will try to indict him.
AdLib 20 minutes ago
SO…Ad…how did the gang take the reemergence of Obama
MurphTheSurf3
20 minutes ago
And I don’t trust the SCOTUS to allow a criminal prosecution of Trump.
AdLib 20 minutes ago
Folks seemed to be energized and affirmed by seeing Obama make this comeback into the public eye. He offers such perspective about Trump and vslidates the sanity of most people.
AdLib 19 minutes ago
You could well be correct but if 70 percent of the nation is really pissed off the GOP are going to want to dump the guy and see if Pence can do anything to give them a chance in 2020
MurphTheSurf3
19 minutes ago
Ad…that is my take on Obama and I think he will avoid the fight-bait that Trump tosses out….he will not mud wrestle.
MurphTheSurf3
18 minutes ago
I could imagine Repubs to scared to vote to remove Trump even if he is revealed to have conspired with Russia. Trump will call it “fake news” and they’ll grasp for that like a life preserver. Remember what happened in Helsinki, they should have turned on the traitor then but after he offered such a lame excuse of “would” and “wouldn’t”, they gobbled it up.
AdLib 17 minutes ago
I see your point but they may at that point be staring at the demise of the Party.
MurphTheSurf3
16 minutes ago
Murph – But Pence doesn’t have the base, Trump does. That’s why Repubs won’t cross Trump, they will just find some lie to hold onto because Trump’s voters could kill them in a primary.
AdLib 15 minutes ago
I think Trump has some really bad stuff out there….and despite the danger holding onto him will be incredibly costly as well.
MurphTheSurf3
15 minutes ago
The GOP is permanently poisoned with Trumpers. They make up the majority of it now, this IS the GOP from now on though I can imagine a civil war inside it as economic conservatives try to fight back for control. I don’t know that they will ever be abe to take the party back though.
AdLib 14 minutes ago
Pence is weak tea…..and unprincipled (while pretending to be a Christian Knight)
MurphTheSurf3
14 minutes ago
Yes, you’re spot on about Obama. He will not get into the gutter with Trump or allow Trump to use him as a punching bag. He’s too smart for that and Trump.
AdLib 13 minutes ago
I like to imagine Trump in 2021, out of the WH with criminal charges coming at him from all sides and his company prosecuted out of existence.
AdLib 12 minutes ago
I think that party is about 50/50 trumpers and the rest (which includes other radical elements) so the party will hobble…..whether is permanently crippled time will tell.
MurphTheSurf3
12 minutes ago
And Obama does not get old.
MurphTheSurf3
12 minutes ago
Ad….I like your 2021 image….of course given his “real” health he may not last long at that point.
MurphTheSurf3
11 minutes ago
Pence doesn’t have charisma or a following in the GOP but he is such a religious extremist, he’s pretty dangerous on his own. He’ll probably run for president after Trump is voted out.
AdLib 11 minutes ago
If the GOP is only 50/50 Trumpers, how do they dominate primaries?
AdLib 11 minutes ago
Pence was unable to get the nomination for a second term in Indiana….he really wears out his welcome fast.
MurphTheSurf3
11 minutes ago
Because the Trumpers are voting like zealots….and the rest are pretty despondent right now.
MurphTheSurf3
10 minutes ago
I say that based on who I know here…..sane GOP are just fed up and backing no one.
MurphTheSurf3
9 minutes ago
Trumpers are Repubs who just used to hide their racism and lunacy. Trump has freed them but they have no other party to go to. Surely not Dems or Green. They have been and will be apermanent part of the GOP which hopefully dooms the party to minority status.
AdLib 9 minutes ago
Ad…that last bit is a scenario that I could see.
MurphTheSurf3
9 minutes ago
But Trump’s a perfect physical specimen! It was an official statement!
AdLib 9 minutes ago
Yeah the crazy doc and the sychopant admiral
MurphTheSurf3
8 minutes ago
Pence was disliked in IN as you say and it was a desperate move to keep his political career alive to join Trump. Without Trump though, he has no future.
AdLib 8 minutes ago
Ad….Pence is still not popular there even as VP….he does not return.
MurphTheSurf3
7 minutes ago
Murph – But in the 2016 GOP primaries, Repubs were energized. Yet the most hateful and extremist seemed to be most popular. And many Repubs have left the party, it’s more concentrated with Trumpers now than it was in 2016.
AdLib 7 minutes ago
One more thought on Obama…..I think he is going to lay claim to all that his admin did (with a bone tossed to Bush admin for hanging on since he wants to shame Trump) and that will be a handle that other dems can pump.
MurphTheSurf3
6 minutes ago
But Pence will stay on the Trump ticket in 2020 and that loss will destroy him rightfully.
AdLib 6 minutes ago
I think in 2016 the formula for a GOP win was so affected by wild elements it is hard to track it……
MurphTheSurf3
5 minutes ago
Very good point about Obama, he did start to do that today. And when the economy slows or goes into a recession next year or in 2020? That’s all on Trump.
AdLib 5 minutes ago
But Trump did dominate the primary and his final competitor was another extremist, Cruz. The moderate Repubs, Jeb and Kasich were never in the running.
AdLib 4 minutes ago
Ad…and Obama will be there to point out why. A friend who I worked with in 2007 and 2008 on the Obama campaign came back for the 2012. She has been asked to return to his team…yeah team…..he is putting together a team…
MurphTheSurf3
4 minutes ago
Ad…I agree about Kasich and Jeb…..and Kasich is hoping to run in 2020 but who would he appeal to.
MurphTheSurf3
3 minutes ago
I think the GOP has de-volved over the last decades as Fox News has programmed them into hateful, racist extremists. That’s who they have been becoming and change is probably decades away if ever. Fox News won’t stop training them to hate and believe in lies.
AdLib 3 minutes ago
Very cool! Is Obama calling his team, “The Justice League”? Would be better than the movie!
AdLib 2 minutes ago
Ad….Fox has a lot to answer for (as does the right wing crowd that has promoted them and the Tea Party and a dozen other movements) cannon fodder.
MurphTheSurf3
2 minutes ago
Ad…..Justice League….Yeah!
MurphTheSurf3
a minute ago
Well….I am going to say adieu for now……starting to pour here……and I am beat to a pulp….
MurphTheSurf3
a few seconds ago
Kasich is a phony and I think he will absolutely run in the 2020 primary against Trump for the attention and hoping to run again in 2024 as a favorite. But I can’t see him ever winning in a Repub primary.
AdLib a few seconds ago
Stay dry and enjoy the rain, wish we had some out here!
AdLib in a few seconds
Ad…I have a bit kinder take on Kasich but largely agree with you. Goodnight.
MurphTheSurf3
in a few seconds
Night!
AdLib in a few seconds
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