Vox Populi – 12-15-2017

Hey Ad! setting up here. See you soon. Fab news about Moore!

pinkpantheroz

…. and poor Sassy carries Moore into obscurity……. ‘bye Felicia

pinkpantheroz

pinkpantheroz

Hi, Funk! Hi 683

pinkpantheroz

oops…. was it something I said?

pinkpantheroz

Is Kushy Kushy Koo the next to go?

pinkpantheroz

Yes, it seems like a tsunami of crap is headed Mueller’s way. Shows he’s doing a good job.

pinkpantheroz

Just visiting I assure you. The wi-fi here is great here

funksands

Funk, is Wi-fi a problem in your area?

pinkpantheroz

He’s making me a mojito right now!

funksands

The Republicans must be very nervous the closer it gets to mid-term. Can the Dems maintain the rage and sceeer?

pinkpantheroz

Hey Pink congrats on Australia joining the marriage equality club!

funksands

Oh, funk! You’re really at THAT DMZ?

pinkpantheroz

Dennis Rodman: Bottle of cheap gin with a nose ring at the bottom

funksands

Uh…yeah!! Totally!

funksands

Saw Rodman on Colbert – couldn’t understand a bloody word.

pinkpantheroz

North Pole next week!

funksands

brb

funksands

Thanks, funk about marriage equality. Enough people shouted away the looney religious bleaters. to get it in. Great

pinkpantheroz

Ad, OoooooK

pinkpantheroz

funny Drumpf saying he is going back to ‘Merry Christmas. Rest of Family photo: HAppy Holidays! you can’t make this stuff up.

pinkpantheroz

Probably. When someone from his family gets threatened with prosecution.

funksands

Talking about Stuffups, what about her nibs being escorted out of the WH? Fact or FakeNews?

pinkpantheroz

Captain Sundowner is just trying to make it through the day. Let’s not tease him too much

funksands

Ad, gives morons a bad name.

pinkpantheroz

WOuld pay a lot to see that!

pinkpantheroz

What was her job again? I’ve never been able to figure it out

funksands

Hey how about a hand for Doug Jones? I was pleasantly surprised on Tues! We even had champagne. When someone as odious as Moore gets embarrassed like that its time for a celebration

funksands

Communications Director – of what, no one knows. Token African-American stooge and puppet, happy to do it for the prestige. Kicked back when fired ( she oughta be used to that from Drumpf by now

pinkpantheroz

I wouldn’t mind having that job. Sounds pretty easy

funksands

Well Done, Doug. Stayed out of the gutter and did well. Cheers to the AfAM voters . Boos to the stupid White Women who voted for Moore-on

pinkpantheroz

With her gone, is Undersecretary Meatloaf next??

funksands

MAybe Dennis?

pinkpantheroz

can alabama be forced to seat Doug soon?

pinkpantheroz

I hit on an interesting thought that I’ll run by you both (disclosure I suspect we are all white males). The reason a majority of white women continue to vote for anti-women candidates like T***p and Moore is because they view their “white” as more valuable than the “woman” part of their identity when it comes to voting behavior. What do you think?

funksands

funksands

Yeah, that

funksands

Hi folks.

MurphTheSurf3

funksands

Funk, you could be right. Also, so many people vote Party no matter what. There will always be True Blue and feral Red voters, so I suppose that the best result was that many Red Voters just didn’t show up.

pinkpantheroz

Hi Murph, how are things?

funksands

I’ll take “Dispirited White Nationalists” for $400 Alex

funksands

Hi Murph! How’s the family?

pinkpantheroz

Guess where I was last Tuesday. I and five other “old hands” went to Alabama a week ago Tuesday to help with the Get Out the Vote Effort. I was privileged to work with a half dozen black community organizers and proudly wore my “Obama Staff” Button as my “credential”.

MurphTheSurf3

Black voters were the key to the win. In a state where voting can be made very difficult by those in power for the powerless where getting a large turnout, especially in the black community, is extremely difficult…..the NAACP did an extraordinary job of raising awareness, energizing voting blocs, challenging those who tried to keep black voters from casting a vote and pushing the voters to the polls in numbers that were as large as those that supported Barack Obama. I was invited to volunteer by a friend who I worked with in 2008 and 2012. She is a wonderful woman, a pastor, a civil rights advocate and an exemplary patriot. My hat is off to her and those who turned apathy into wild excitement. I had volunteered to work the state phone bank from home in Missouri. The invitation was a real challenge to me….a call to really step up. I am glad I did.

MurphTheSurf3

Interesting to think that the control of the Senate is now viewed as a 50/50 proposition even with the Dems defending so man seats!

funksands

Funny how the White Supremacists/Nazis have wriggled back under their rocks. Is Trump too batshit crazy, even for them?

pinkpantheroz

Well, Well done, Murph!

pinkpantheroz

Murph, I am proud of you for doing that. I admire you putting your money where you mouth is

funksands

I have to say that I had a good time.

MurphTheSurf3

And I still completed my quota of 50 Obamacare signups here in Mo….a robust response is what we got as a whole.

MurphTheSurf3

Take a bow, Murph. You were a big part of it.

pinkpantheroz

PPO…a small part really…but it felt like 2008.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, let’s hope that that feeling extens to 2018 and gets even bigger

pinkpantheroz

Ad…thank you…..echoes of 2008…..I know people in the Dem national call center and they pushed on me.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph that’s good to hear. Enthusiasm is so important for turnout

funksands

Funk…thank you…..a real privilege and to be standing there when our man took the stage was electric. I stayed with a black family in a poor neighborhood….loved it.

MurphTheSurf3

it will be hard to maintain the push, but we can do it. Keep on Trump’s failures.

pinkpantheroz

How do we stop the padding of ignorant RWNJs on judicial benches?

pinkpantheroz

funksands

Ad….The Children’s Health Insurance Program has expired. There is already a crisis in Mo over this…no extra cash to cover the gap. Cuts in Obamacare, cuts in Social Security, cuts in Medicare, cuts in Medicaid. Attacking the FBI while undermining Mueller himself…there is nothing will not do.

MurphTheSurf3

This chart shows how enthusiastic Dems are this election cycle

funksands

Wow, funk

pinkpantheroz

Funk…great chart….

MurphTheSurf3

Yep, every race is being contested this year. While I have a concern that the DNC will be able to meet the demand, no one is waiting for them to figure it out

funksands

OK, Ad. Wondered how a curb could be put on them. Shouldn’t take long!

pinkpantheroz

Ad, Maybe Mueller can help there!

pinkpantheroz

Ryan’s gotta go! Slug

pinkpantheroz

One can hope that the when the Dems have power again that they don’t make the same mistake Obama made and bring an etiquette book to a knife fight

funksands

Going to be a lot of retirements in the GOP this year. Time to cash in

funksands

Even those forced to resign due to sexual harassment will land lucrative lobbying gigs for the firms that they helped with the tax bill and other regulatory cuts

funksands

funk, true about knife fight. Problem is, does anyone see a crotch-kicking candidate on the Dem’s side yet?

pinkpantheroz

Will Trump order Rosenstein to fire Mueller???? Cause????

MurphTheSurf3

Btw, there is rumbling that a huge leak of House members under investigation for harassment is coming in the next few days. Resignations may run in the teens (no pun intended)

funksands

Murph, Rosenstein has said that Mueller is the best man for the job.

pinkpantheroz

Pink, I think so. There are some non-traditional regular folks running for office that don’t seem shy about being assertive

funksands

PPO…so Rosenstein gets fired and Trump orders the AG to do it?

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, if it happens, that’s how it will happen

funksands

funk…. there’ll be a lot of ‘bye Felicias’

pinkpantheroz

Good riddance.

funksands

Ad, not that! He might damege the garden, or crack the concrete.

pinkpantheroz

I wish we had someone a bit younger to run for President, but the avg age of House and State candidates is encouraging

funksands

One of the strongest Dems in the area is going after a Congressman of long standing here by posting images of the properties he owns alongside his salary in the house and his fortunes prior to running for Congress. Not a match.

MurphTheSurf3

Seems like every one of the Virginia Dem Delegates elected recently were fresh-faced rosey-cheeked millennials or X-ers

funksands

I do wish Bernie would go away. He’s a vote taker with no hope of victory. ABB ANyone But Bernie

pinkpantheroz

Funk..another Saturday Night Massacre but this time the Congress is GOP….

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, that’s an excellent idea. Good strategy

funksands

Ad..for now he has a GOP congress……so?

MurphTheSurf3

SNM? Haven’t heard of that must look it up

pinkpantheroz

PPO….Nixon’s firing of a line of DOJ superiors to get rid of a Special Counsel….he kept firing until he found someone who would do it.

MurphTheSurf3

Oh, that. OK thanks

pinkpantheroz

With you on that, Ad. Ominous silence tonight from Twitter in chief. Wonder how his head is?

pinkpantheroz

I completely support what Sanders stands for and he has his finger on the pulse of what will help Dems win. I don’t think I can vote for him if he runs as a Dem again

funksands

I would support Warren in that role in a heartbeat though. Ad I agree completely about a younger candidate to push them in a primary. I am afraid that Biden is going to run though, which complicates things a lot. He’s old, a terrible candidate and has a very spotty legislative history. Good guy, lousy candidate to run

funksands

Ad…this guy is linking that property spotlight to the Tax Bonanza being provided to the rich by the GOP by showing images of the huge mansions in Newport RI suggesting that they are a step up the Congressman might be able to go for in the near future.

MurphTheSurf3

I respect your position, funk. Yes, if he runs, it shouldn’t be as a Dem. He criticizes them as much as the GOP. Not good for cohesion

pinkpantheroz

His running as a Dem was necessary in 2016. Critical. But to do it again in the same way in 2020? Bad idea and counterproductive.

funksands

ad..re. Bernie…agree….and I still consider his record of legislative action in the Congress….not a coalition builder.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, that’s already occurring. The second this monstrous tax bill passes, the sneering and snickering will begin, followed by distancing and outright antipathy.

funksands

ad….i could see that happening…..esp. once the the bonanza bill has passed….Or they will grab for a golden ring as they exit the merry go round.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, I wonder will the Repubs bother. The gerrymanders and sheep voting may still carry the day. Trump needs to be impeached or forced out before the next election.

pinkpantheroz

I just wish all national platform Dems would attack this tax bill for what it is rather than what it is not. No one cares (nor should they) about the debt and deficit, instead this should be attacked for giving the rest of the $ of the nation to the people that already have all of it

funksands

Ad I wouldn’t vote for him

funksands

PPO…I continue to be stunned by a number of my neighbors who among those sheep……waiting in line to be sheared and slaughtered.

MurphTheSurf3

Excellent point, funk.

pinkpantheroz

I agree with Bernie, I just won’t vote for him as a Dem and it would take a special miracle of events to make me vote for him as an independent.

funksands

Funk….you do not consider the debt to be a threat I know. Can you give us the short skinny on why that is so.

MurphTheSurf3

Maybe if Fox News were somehow to be branded an enemy of the State and de-licenced, maybe sanity could come to Joe Sixpack America

pinkpantheroz

You mean the $20T National Private Sector Surplus? No I don’t consider that a bad thing.

funksands

Pink, they are just gonna have to die off

funksands

The well is poisoned.

funksands

PPO…more likely Fox will be named the Official State TV

MurphTheSurf3

True fnk

pinkpantheroz

I would get behind Warren in a big way. If Warren Jr (whoever that is) ran, I’d be even more excited. I’m afraid that Booker will run though (gag)

funksands

Ad, the Dems need more than merely GOP bashing to win. Positive mandates, Aggressive advertising and GOTV rallies should be starting right the hell now

pinkpantheroz

The Dems could run an entire national campaign for the next 4 years: “The GOP is for 1 thing only: Funneling your $ and political power into the hands of fewer and fewer people”. If they stuck with it I think they’ succeed.

funksands

I think the Dems should run on tax cuts. Seriously.

funksands

Ad..I keep thinking of that couple in the small market who were both working two jobs, having their kids watched by a grandparent, and still needing SNAP (food stamps) to just make it….as they drove away I noted their Romney bumper sticker. Want to bet that this last go around they had one for Trump?

MurphTheSurf3

Tax cuts, restoring clean air, water and facilities, kill Citizens United and putting people in jail!

pinkpantheroz

Funk…I like your campaign theme line.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…..Wholeheartedly agree.

MurphTheSurf3

The Bernie “wing” and Hillary “wing” each think they can do it without the other. *sigh*

funksands

Sadly, Ad, you’re right.

pinkpantheroz

Well, folks, time for my afternoon trip to the shops. Lovely 28C day sun shining. See you all next week

pinkpantheroz

Funk…what was interesting in AL was a theme – party labels do not matter….what is the person running for, who are they for, and what will they do for us….not the party they are associated with.

MurphTheSurf3

PPO….take good care.

MurphTheSurf3

“Hi I’m your local Democratic candidate for Congress. I’m going to vote for biggest national infrastructure project in the history of the world, a cut in FICA tax, and a goat-funded solar panel on every roof in America. Im also going to break up Comcast, end baggage fees as well.”

funksands

Ad…agreed…..but who?

MurphTheSurf3

*govt*

funksands

Oh for god’s sake Ad. Seriously?

funksands

Funk……and how many will be pissed off at that message automatically and how will it be spun? as much as I like it I have learned that the GOP is very good at making gold look like goo.

MurphTheSurf3

Seriously though, Dems should really run as the anti-corruption party. It is the #1 concern of most Americans and after the next couple of years they will be starving for that message. They really do want someone to “Drain the Swamp”. That can be a very compelling message.

funksands

Any thoughts on Net Neutrality?

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, I think the state lawsuits against it has legs. It may be delayed for some time.

funksands

One of the people I worked with closely in Al was a 74 year “old soldier” from the Civil Rights Movement…she kept saying over and over again…”My kids understood less than I did, and their kids knew even less, and so….how do people reject what they do not understand….” She noted that the 30 percent turnout was good but where were the missing 70? Too dumb to realize how much their votes count.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, that is a depressing anecdote

funksands

Funk….my internet provider has made a solemn promise not to engage in any action that creates different classes of users. This may just be a marketing ploy but I like the company.

MurphTheSurf3

Funk…yes….she also had hard words about the disintegration of social structures in black communities.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…..I point back to the anecdote about the pervasiveness of dumbness.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, the challenge is that the big companies simply can’t abide by that promise. They are competing against the very companies that their customers are using on their lines. Comcast for example has its own streaming service. They’d be stupid not to throttle Netflix or ask for a fee for access while they provide it as part of a package

funksands

Funk…good points.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, that also will be a winning message. Anti-trust is a secret weapon I hope the Dems use

funksands

Because the GOP will adopt it if they don’t

funksands

Well…I am heading for the door……shortly….there is a lot of talk that the Trump admin will move on the Special Counsel during the Christmas season….fewer paying attention and less exposure with Congress out of town.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, sadly it will depend on what judge hears the case. I expect it to go to the Supreme Court next year and THEN Net Neutrality will end….for now

funksands

Night Murph, it was great seeing you

funksands

Ad….I suggest that most of those who did not vote still do not know there was an election or if they do…that it mattered.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…also a good point.

MurphTheSurf3

There is going to be a bonanza of municipalities starting up their own municipal fiber-optic systems. Hundreds will get it done before the lobbyists catch up and convince red state legislatures to outlaw it

funksands

Funk…interesting idea….of course we in MO. will not benefit from such a move…..retrograde is built into the body politic here.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….I continue to be a cynic in re. to “public reaction.”

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, the tide will turn there. Maybe not for years, but it will turn. Good people like you will continue to turn the Titanic away from the ice before it sinks

funksands

And with that…I wish you both a very pleasant night…I am going to do a lot sleeping this weekend. I am buoyed by both of your stances: Courage! Time will bring change!

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, there is no way the current SCOTUS will find against the ISP’s. I would be shocked.

funksands

Nigh Murph!

funksands

I’m not far behind you.

funksands

Ad, I hope you are right. I’m sensing a lot of exhaustion on the demonstration front. Trump does one thing well and that is exhaust good people.

funksands

I’ll share you optimism then.

funksands

People need to learn to pace themselves. If they knew what was good for them, they’d swear off social media and spend that time volunteering to help a local candidate!

funksands

Good. Light it anyway

funksands

I have a nasty suspicion that the Mueller investigation isn’t going to do much to Trump and people are going to be very disappointed. He’ll emerge relatively unscathed. I just wish people wouldn’t pin their hopes on him

funksands

Well, Ad I have to toddle off. Have a great weekend. Good talking with you!

funksands