Whoops, sorry about the late start for Vox! Hope too see you shortly!
AdLib 12 hours ago
Well I got here just now…..perhaps others have come and gone.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
Hey Murph,!
AdLib 12 hours ago
I got hung up and just opened up Vox!
AdLib 12 hours ago
Hope others will check back in!
AdLib 12 hours ago
Well let’s see if others come on by again.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
How are you?
AdLib 12 hours ago
Exhausted. I was in DC again for the big vote to Open Debate on Repeal/Replace and then for the next three votes. I was in the crowd outside when McCain gave a thumbs down to the clerk of the Senate and the finger to the Majority Leader.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
Wow, once again you are a part of history, very coo1!
AdLib 12 hours ago
And I am paying for it…..
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
We were watching live, when they called his name the first time we strained to hear his vote and assumed he was too quiet to be heard. Then we saw him coome onto the floor and watched him on the edge of our seats!
AdLib 12 hours ago
The concerns here about Trump closing the coffers and torpedoing the ACA in practice continues to rise.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
He could do it but if I had to bet, I’d say it’s more fear mongering. I think enough people have told him that he would then be blamed for everything that fails regarding the ACA.
AdLib 12 hours ago
I hope you are correct.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
Remember, he tried to use that threat to force the Dems to vote his way earlier in the year?
AdLib 12 hours ago
Trump claims to be a great negotiatoor, he’s miserable. His only approach is to threaten and that stops working as sooon as people see that’s all you’ve got.
AdLib 12 hours ago
I recall that but I fear that as his feet continue to roast over the open fire of judicial inquiry he will act in greater desperation.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
Threaten and personally bully.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
And his orchestrated, scripted attack on Mueller and the Grand Jury, saying it’s all a Dem conspiracy, is only red meat for the 33% who support him. He and those around him will be in legal hell by next year.
AdLib 12 hours ago
Add in Sessions threats aimed at the “lame stream fake news producing media” have their role here too.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
But I don’t see how one is connected to the other. Shutting down the payments is disconnected from the Russia investigation. And if he actually follows throough on his threat, he’s lost his only negotiating tool on HC.
AdLib 12 hours ago
Identifying possible connections presumes he is a rational actor. He is not. He is Nero.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
I don’t doubt they want to get some punches in on the press but they will only destroy themselves more and whip up more anti-Trump outrage if they try to start jailing journalists. That’s what dictatoors do and from the pushback we’re already seeing from Repubs in Congress, I think we could see a big movement in Congress to undo what Trump would try to doo throough veto-proof legislation. It’s already begun!
AdLib 12 hours ago
Damn my “o” key!
AdLib 12 hours ago
His conversations with the PM of Australia and the President of Mexico show how shallow his rationality is.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
I agree that the GOP are putting in a fire wall, cya legislation.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
But like all bullies, he’s also a coward. He needs to have a weapon in hand to threaten others, if he throws away his weapon, he’s lost his power. And as I mentioned, I think he’ll only empower Congress to reverse what he does, then he’ll be truly impotent for the whole world to see. That is his greatest fear!
AdLib 12 hours ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 12 hours ago
Hi!
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
PPO – Hoow about that Trump conversation with Turnbull?
AdLib 12 hours ago
Newsweek’s cover is Wonderful….Lazy Boy.

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MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
Love it that diplomats are calling you-know who a nincompoop, fool, not worthy of respect. About time!
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
Perfect, Murph. Expect twitter explosion incoming
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
Murph – It’s a pretty amazing statement by Congressional Repubs! They have forced him to sign legislation agreeing to have Congress be his babysitter on Russia sanctions! And preventing him from being able to make a recess appointment, Repubs are now treating him like he’s already a lame duck with a 33% approval rating. Oh wait…
AdLib 12 hours ago
Re: trump taking credit for new jobs: Doctor said ‘Since Trump’s inauguration, approximately 40,000,000 births have occurred world-wide. Dear Ivanka, daddy isn’t responsible for that, either.’
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
Good one, Ad!
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
Saw that Murph, is that just incredible for Newsweek?! I saw someone comment that they thought it could have been from The Onion.
AdLib 12 hours ago
Ad, did Trump actually comprehend what he was signing? If not, he’s really utterly incapable of being Pres.
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
PPO – Sure seems like the Dem in 2020 could run on, “Let’s stop America from being a laughing stock around the world” or something a little less direct than that, to easily beat Trump. He will have nothing left to run on but lame and exposed lies.
AdLib 12 hours ago
Ad, the redneck element couldn’t give a flying f** about the rest of the world.
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
I am not here for that long….so I want to pass this along. A friend, a fellow academic, military historian with a specialty area in contemporary tactics and strategy…..his position on North Korea is that the only sure path is to take out the artillery wall in NK facing Seoul, Satellite targeting of the mobile launchers backed up by cruise missiles and tactical nuclear strikes on the embedded nuclear weapon’s sites. He outlined it all. He does not see China as an effective agent in this.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
And Russia’s incentive for messing with our elections may be reduced, now that they see it’s only resulted in things getting worse for them. Cheers to Congres, Repubs and Dems, for passing that bill almost unanimously. Putin despises sanctions, I think it could have the desired effect.
AdLib 12 hours ago
PPO – Think how many people have been killed in the world since January. TRUMP!!!
AdLib 12 hours ago
PPO and Ad…I agree with your thoughts re. the GOP being forced to corral the Prez which creates another set of problems for them.
MurphTheSurf3

12 hours ago
PPO – Oh yeah, he knew but he was terrified for his ego of having his veto overridden and looking even weaker (though this makes him look SOOO weak).
AdLib 12 hours ago
Scary scenario, Murph from your friend. but could USA/Sth Korea inflict enough damage to the Artillery caves to prevent mass destruction in Seoul, and are they thinking pre-emptive here?
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
PPO – That’s why I’m back to my position of noot insulting but not paying any attention to that 33% that blindly follows Trump. They are cultists, beyond reaching, they deserve to be ignored while we focus attention and resources on those who are capable of opposing Trump in 2018 and 2020. They are beyond help.
AdLib 12 hours ago
Hey glenn! Sorry Vox was late tonight!
AdLib 12 hours ago
Soooo, ad, Trump is now officially a puppet? Keep him on the golf course and let the pros in wash get to work
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
hey glenn!
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
Hey Ad–glad you told me that VOX was late. Thought my computer was being wonky. How are you?
glenn

12 hours ago
Hey Murph, Hey PPO–Interesting take on Korea from your friend. Murph.
glenn

12 hours ago
Murph – Must disagree with your friend. We don’t know where all of Kimmy’s weapons are, many are shielded underground and just a few could wipe oout tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people in SK and Japan. This will take brilliant diplomacy, carrots and sticks, to solve. China wants to keep the Koreas divided as does Russia, they won’t help much.
AdLib 12 hours ago
I don’t know whether to be appalled or relieved that trump is taking 17 days off. At least he can’t do any damage, can he? Except for tweets, of course.
glenn

12 hours ago
glenn, let him tweet his dick off. More ammo for impeachment.
pinkpantheroz

12 hours ago
Murph – The Repubs have gotten too deep in the muck with Trump, they can’t get clean but they can stop before they drown in it.
AdLib 12 hours ago