Vox Populi – 7-21-2017

Evening, Ad, how are you?

glenn

We missed you last week.

glenn

True dat!

glenn

Here is the question of the week. Pardon or resignation? Or both?

glenn

So far, so good. Not much doings, except for my trip to Blue Ridge 4th of July week. Other than that, not much going on.

glenn

Yup. The hits just keep on coming with this administration!

glenn

Do you think the public will ever see or know about trump’s tax returns?

glenn

How is your summer going?

glenn

Not so sure about that. I think that’s about the worst thing the Dems could do…Not take back the house; but leak trump’s returns. It just gives him more ammunition to whine about being “persecuted”.

glenn

Wow! She must be very good to be playing at high school level!

glenn

Ehhh…mas o manos. Spins both ways, or course, depending on your partisanship.

glenn

of course, not “or course”

glenn

And, in some ways, most of the public already trump’s finances are intertwined with Russia. Otherwise, he would have already released them to show us how we’re all wrong. I think his finances are the key, and I’m glad to hear Mueller is going after them. After all, trump has already given us a big clue that the finances are what he doesn’t want revealed! What an ass he is!

glenn

Yeah, it’s the little things in life that count; like good tires!

glenn

Oh, I agree that trump needs to be impeached, but Murph pointed out last week that even if Mueller comes up with evidence, he can’t do anything about it. It’s up to Congress, and if they don’t release the info from Mueller, then we’ll never know. So, I guess that reinforces your point about whistleblowers. Yet, I just don’t see this Congress having the spine to impeach him. It’s going to take a lot of push from the public, I think.

glenn

Oh, there you go! That would be cool. I’ve been looking into buying a hybrid, but it’s a few years away.

glenn

Do you drive only in the state, or to other states too?

glenn

Mueller seems like a pretty smart guy, so I’m hoping he’s using many CYA tactics to outsmart trump. Doesn’t take much to outsmart trump, but he (trump) is acting more and more like a cornered animal, so there’s no telling what he’ll do.

glenn

That’s interesting about the Tesla. How about the size of it? Does it have enough room for all of her equipment? I know we have to lug a lot for my granddaughter’s soccer games!

glenn

Well, at least you’re getting to see some scenery. See the USA in your Tesla! Doesn’t rhyme quite as much as the original, but it’s environmentally friendly!

glenn

I’m not exactly too clear on the geography of CA, but isn’t LA in the southern part of the state?

glenn

How long a drive is it to Las Vegas from where you live?

glenn

Great point about how well Comey covered himself. As you say, I’m sure Mueller has taken some lessons from him, regarding covering himself.

glenn

Sounds like if you could cover the initial cost of the car, it would save you money on gas as well as on your payments with the rebates. What is the range? Would it get you to Las Vegas and back?

glenn

Oh good one! You should write copy for Tesla!

glenn

I hope trump pisses off the FBI regulars so badly that everyone possible is investigating him! Definitely Mueller needs to step up the timeline if he can. I agree; trump is going to get even more ugly! And, I’m not talking about his looks….

glenn

Oops, sorry, Ad, I have to step away from my computer for a minute. BRB

glenn

So, I have some practical questions about recharging. First of all, where do you charge it when you’re away from home? Does it use 110v or 240v? Does someone have to stay with the car while it’s charging? Do the cords required for charging come with the car? What’s to stop someone from unplugging your car and plugging theirs in if you don’t stay with it? Will the charging stations charge money to charge? I don’t see any charging stations at the gas stations I use; but this is GA, so CA might be a little more “advanced” in that regard. Okay, that’s enough for now.

glenn

Oh yeah, I think trump’s “strategy” of turning the IC against him will backfire bigly! Here’s hoping anyway!

glenn

Hey AuntieChrist. Don’t think we’ve met, nice to “see” you here. I read your article the other day. Nice humor!

glenn

The corruption of this clown dictator is so unbearable and the cowardice of his spineless croth nuzzlerss is beyond disgusting.

AuntieChrist

^crotch^

AuntieChrist

my bad.

AuntieChrist

AC–so tell us how you really feel!

glenn

Interesting, Ad. It truly is an up and coming technology!

glenn

Ad–one more question, and then I’ll quit. What is the “life expectancy” of the batteries?

glenn

Am I in Vox Populi? Not sure where I am. I believe I hear the refrain of “The Twilight Zone” playing in a constant loop.

AuntieChrist

Ad–that’s an excellent question. I think he’s got to go somehow, but then again, I just don’t know how. The cowardly congressional critters don’t seem to think there’s anything wrong with what trump is doing. I think trump is going to force a constitutional crisis by pardoning himself and all his cronies, but I just don’t know what the CCC’s will do after that. There is no precedent for this level of corruption, collusion, and just plain criminality, so it’s anybody’s guess. There’s always the possibility that he gets out of this scot free somehow or the other, too, since he has the CCC’s covering his butt!

glenn

AC–yeah, you’re in VOX. Ad just happened to mention thinking of buying a Tesla, and I had a lot of questions. Ad, being Ad, is being extremely polite and helpful as he always is. We’re kinda carrying on two separate conversations here; one on Teslas and one on our toddler-in-chief.

glenn

AC–so feel free to join in either one, or both!

glenn

I’m convinced that Donald Trump saw Billy Mumy in the episode where, as a six year old boy, he would do horrible things to people. To which the grown ups would reply, “Why, that’s a good thing you did!” ….And they totally live in abject horror of his every action.

AuntieChrist

The GOP in a nutshell. Relevant in it’s red-scare baiting and fear in the fifties, and living like cowards today.

AuntieChrist

Very late. I could not get to Vox for the last hour. Then I went to the archive page for Vox and the blue box showed up. So here am I.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–Agree with much of what you say about trump. I still don’t understand why they’re waiting, though. Pence and even Ryan, if it comes to that, would sign the very same things that trump would. The only conclusion I can come to is they’re waiting to see how low trump’s approval numbers can go before they impeach him. Even with the lowest rating of any president since ratings have been around, doesn’t seem to faze them, though. I also think that they really believed (or maybe couldn’t believe he is that stupid) that trump never colluded with Russia. Although, I don’t understand why any thinking person could actually think that, given all the hints that trump has given off, especially regarding his refusal to release his tax returns.

glenn

Hey Murph! Better late than never.

glenn

I am just back from Washington DC. I went with a a group of activists from a indivisible group. Big Van. Pretty Comfortable. Part of several protests. Met our Democratic Senator. Met a staffer for the GOP Senator. Each of us went to our House Reps office. Focus on the so called Better Care Act.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….may be a glitch on my end. Not to worry.

MurphTheSurf3

Hi Glenn.

MurphTheSurf3

And hello to AuntieChrist…what an interesting name!

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn….I am really too old for road trips like this but it was worth it.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–yeah, maybe the protests will be even bigger than trump’s inaguaration, even bigger than the crowds when he had dinner with the French president!

glenn

Murph–so did you give them a piece of your mind?

glenn

Murph–so the Dem Senator met with you all, but the cowardly congress critter from the gop only sent a staffer? Typical!

glenn

Ad–I agree with your assessment of the repubs. However, they don’t need trump to pass their hated policies; pence and ryan would do the same thing.

glenn

Ad–oh yeah, those protests would be massive. I truly think trump is going to force the issue, ’cause his ego is so massive that he thinks he did nothing wrong.

glenn

What we did was to take a different approach…..We had three ring binders- a lot of them. They provided an overview of the GOP House and Senate plan based on the CBO scoring. We then responded to plans in the second section. The third section was page after page of Missourians who have benefited from ACA and will likely lose out under the GOP plans. Our group included the young adults to the seniors, a mechanic, a lawyer, a doctor, a farmer/community organizer. We went there just to engage them. It went well.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn….McCasskill was charming and clearly committed. Blunt was AWOL.

MurphTheSurf3

Thanks, MurphTheSurf. It was actually just a play on words and something I made up to throw people off track. As I don’t believe in an AntiChrist, though I used to be a Bible and history major. I’m also not a female, but I thought, “if Jesus would have had an aunt, she would have validly have been qualified to be AuntieChrist” So I decided to use it. To many evangelical’s dismay.

AuntieChrist

Murph–you are a wonder, and a wonderful farmer/community organizer. Thank you for all of your hard work.

glenn

Auntie….your explanation makes you even more interesting.

MurphTheSurf3

Auntie…how is one a bible and history major?

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–yup. Forget the fact that trump is a criminal occupying the highest office in the land. Let’s just worry about keeping our cushy job as a rep or senator. Once again, cowards…all of them.

glenn

Thanks Glenn…I was sort of shamed into the whole thing…put my commitment into action rather than just chat it up.

MurphTheSurf3

AC–I’m with Murph; your explanation is interesting. It will be nice to chat with you. I see you are in Vancouver. Are you Canadian, or an American living in Canada? Doesn’t make any difference; I’m just curious!

glenn

Ad…the only theatrics was that each of us presented a binder at the two offices in silence and stepped away. As we did the entire group said together: “These are your constituents. We are for them. Are you?”

MurphTheSurf3

One can study about the ruins of ancient civilizations. Read Homer, Learn Hebrew, Koine Greek…

AuntieChrist

Murph–how did the gop’s rep react to your presentation?

glenn

Auntie…..was that an academic program blending the two disciplines?

MurphTheSurf3

I’m in Vancouver, Washington.

AuntieChrist

AC–ah, my bad!

glenn

Glenn…they were respectful….a bit somber….the leader of our group, an attorney, provided an overview of what was in each book by paging through her’s and showing the staffers who were there how they organized. He stepped back and we did our chant….8 of us. Oh! And we dressed in black – in mourning.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad and AC…..happy that we have another VPer.

MurphTheSurf3

It was. I actually liked my professors. They were NOT hard core fundies. They were and are well educated men who also believed that women should have bigger roles in the church. The blue hairs always shot that down.

AuntieChrist

AC….sounds like a positive experience. Did you earn a degree? What came next?

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–sounds as though it was a very effective presentation. Here’s hoping it has an effect on your gop senator.

glenn

AC….I am a retired history prof and a Christian Humanist associated with the Episcopalian Church.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…I felt pretty sure that Blunt was briefed on it. We each had a book to take to Reps. I saw my Reps chief of staff. I followed the same format as the one we used for the Senators. The chief of staff knew of activity as a navigator and wanted to chat. It was a good discussion. I had the feeling that the GOP knows it is cornered and wants a way out.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…I agree the face of ACA is the faces of those who benefited from (and those who were disadvantaged) ACA/

MurphTheSurf3

Ad and Murph–the presentation was wonderful; the sad thing is that someone who represents the people of your state had to be reminded that they represent the people of your state. IOW, they had to be reminded that what they do affects real people; it’s not just words on a page. It’s always amazing to me that the gop seems to understand very well that the wealthy are real people, but that poor people are just statistics. Of course, the congress critters meet the wealthy personally, because the wealthy make sure of it. Your group showing up in person with the facts and figures and more importantly, the stories of people is a wonderful strategy.

glenn

I got burned out by the dominance of the blue hairs, who ALWAYS got their way. I was invited to speak, as the younger people liked my insights… so I gave a scathing sermon. Not a fire and brimstone one. just one in which I asked them to look around. Which they did – and made the comment that they’re congregation would be dead inside two years.

AuntieChrist

Glenn…good summary of the dynamics at work in this.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–do you think your presentation gives the gop a way out? Do you think they’ll “use” it?

glenn

AC….I am fortunate to belong to a healthy, connected, diverse community of believers (in a variety of things) Open minded. I used to be Roman Catholic. I still want uplifting ritual but I also want a woman priest and a church grappling with its theology.

MurphTheSurf3

AC…your sermon…was it predictive?

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…the way out is to work for the needs of their constituents at the base of the pyramid and the rest will fall into place.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…..I think the vote is meant to get members off the hook with their local constituents. They vote…they do so in the way that gives them the most cover.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–from your keyboard to the congress critters votes!

glenn

Like Verbal Kent said, “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that… he is gone.”

AuntieChrist

Murph, I heard they’re now a congregation of about 10 blue hairs.

AuntieChrist

Well, gents, it’s getting late here, so I’m calling it a night. Great chatting with you all tonight. Learned a lot. Hope to see you again next week, AuntieChrist. And, you and Ad too Murph! G’night. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

glenn

I wish I could stay away but I am failing the test. Very early morns. It has been good seeing you all. Next week! AC please make your time here a regular thing….I would really like to chat with you.

MurphTheSurf3

Sorry if I offend anyone with the use of “blue hairs” but they’re so staunchly set in their last century ways.

AuntieChrist

Night, Glenn and Murph.

AuntieChrist

Same. Epilepsy sucks. It’s the gravity party. Damn Newton!

AuntieChrist

hi folks! A large Scaramicci for me!

pinkpantheroz

Not party. ^part^

AuntieChrist

Hello AC. We haven’t met. I’m in Melbourne Australia

pinkpantheroz

When I’m not breaking bones, yes.

AuntieChrist

Hope he feels better after it!

pinkpantheroz

Wow! How’s life down under? How do you guys not fall off the planet?

AuntieChrist

He looks like he was in The Sopranos!

pinkpantheroz

AC, too cheap to move!

pinkpantheroz

I’d never be able to use violence on anyone…. Damn pacifism!

AuntieChrist

AC I did an article in Speakers corner you might like about Australia

pinkpantheroz

I’ll have to check that out, pink.

AuntieChrist

I’m late, so I suppose you’ve exhausted Sessions and Spicer

pinkpantheroz

Take the Cannoli! (yEAH, WRONG SHOW!)

pinkpantheroz

The God Father 1 & 2. Incredible films. 3?… WTF was he thinking?

AuntieChrist

Will Justice be done? Did you see or hear about Rachel Maddow’s blowing up the GOP conspiracy plan?

pinkpantheroz

pinkpantheroz

Agree AC and Ad, Actors dialled it in. Miserable shadow of 1&2.

pinkpantheroz

Hopefully, Ad, but I’m dismayed at the lack of Dem Cohesion and forward planning to take full advantage.

pinkpantheroz

BTW AdLib, the Secret Service, which Trump wants run by the Russians, may be looking into your posting about Trump’s “Ass Bone”. Kushner and Donny Jr are probably inking the deal with Putin as we “speak”

AuntieChrist

Ad, looking forward to it.Havent heard of it much here.

pinkpantheroz

Nicholas Cage was as engaging as a gold fish in his role.

AuntieChrist

A quiet night fo you tonight

pinkpantheroz

Think how servile the GOP has become. Lo’ and Behold, Devin Nunes. it’s sick.

AuntieChrist

Agree, Ad. Oppositions can only react, but at least the Dems are planning for when they regain power, unlike the GOP who still don’t have a clue what to do or how to go about it. Firing all the experts dian’t help much, either!

pinkpantheroz

When you’e an addict and are hooked on the bad stuff, it’s hard to withdraw.

pinkpantheroz

They ought to change out their elephant for a jelly fish.

AuntieChrist

Good one, AC!

pinkpantheroz

Ah, well, Who will play Mucho Scary on SNL?

pinkpantheroz

pinkpantheroz

Remember, when the BP disaster occurred? Joe Wilson, Republican from Oklahoma, called President Obama a LIAR, because he thought Obama was being to mean to BP. No moral footing. None EVER.

AuntieChrist

He’s just a poor boy, from a poor family! Yeah, Right!

pinkpantheroz

I like it Ad… But… Zombies like Braiiins… I see a problem.

AuntieChrist

Will US politics ever get back to being relatively sane? In our lifetime?

pinkpantheroz

Another thought occurred to me as I checked the Billy Mumy Twilight Zone episode…

AuntieChrist

Will there be any left by then, Ad? BTW. I can’t stand McCain, bbut I hope he recovers.

pinkpantheroz

Billy Mumy’s first role on television was in a 1960 episode of National Velvet. The episode was called “Donald’s Friend” In which a character named “Donald” has no one to play with, so he creates an imaginary friend and calls him Willy. Willy was the first role Billy Mumy ever had, and Donald still has no friends.

AuntieChrist

AC, what about ‘Jim”? and didn’t he just b oast he has ‘lots of friends, believe me”?

pinkpantheroz

Sorry folks, Mid-afternoon Sat here, so gotta go. Nice Meeting you, AC. Hope you’ll attend lots more.

pinkpantheroz

I’ve never seen Blue Velvet. I was checking out the reference dates for the Twilight Zone.

AuntieChrist

Nice meeting you, Pink.

AuntieChrist

Cheers and goodbyeee

pinkpantheroz

I do hope that McCain wakes from his slumber and looks around long enough to see that Trump’s America is not the legacy that he would want to leave around.

AuntieChrist

My Bad: National Velvet.

AuntieChrist

I’m not at all impressed with McCain’s daughter.

AuntieChrist

She’s been a GOP apologist for far too long.

AuntieChrist

Exactly! “a lightweight and a poseur” Good word and so very apt.

AuntieChrist

She reminds me of Erik Erickson ( RedState)

AuntieChrist

Or, just pick a conservative pundit’s name out of a hat and give them air time on Sunday mornings.

AuntieChrist

I did not see that.

AuntieChrist

Windup toys that keep turning right and falling off the same table over and over again.

AuntieChrist

Woah! Did Trump’s hair retreat?

AuntieChrist

Seriously don’t get the bromance between Trump and Putin. Melania’s probably jealous. Or Ivanka is.

AuntieChrist

LOL at the monkey.

AuntieChrist

that’s so… true to form of the signal’s the White House is sending. Vlad looks a little too pale, but who am I to mess with someone else’s art?

AuntieChrist

…Oh… wait. Never mind that question: I’m AuntieChrist!

AuntieChrist

Wonder who’s getting deep tongued?

AuntieChrist

Answer: America.

AuntieChrist

Not touching that.

AuntieChrist

Bunch of people named ‘Earl’ must’ve voted for him.

AuntieChrist

Apologies in advance if your name is Earl.

AuntieChrist

That picture fits the narrative so well. It’d be truer to form sans the books, the apple and pencil.

AuntieChrist

Well AdLib, my meds are making me drift… so to slumber land I’ll retire. Thanks for your diligence in maintaining this site for open and free thought. The people here are thoughtful and involved – and that’s a great thing. Something needed in this dystopian right ring nightmare. Have a good night.

AuntieChrist