Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 7 days ago
I’m under Investigation! Hi AD!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 7 days ago
You’re a witch!
AdLib 7 days ago
Witch one?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Which witch?
AdLib 7 days ago
I was on the beach, so I’m a Sandwitxh
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ouch!
AdLib 7 days ago
That just made me slap my head with my fork in my hand. Small cut, just put witch hazel on it.
AdLib 7 days ago
Guess where Trump keeps his wand?
AdLib 7 days ago
Just checking the news. Bannon’s now in trouble. He’s the prime mover in all this crap
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
And Trump howled in he campaign about Hillary spending her presidency under investigations!
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump’s lawyer just got a lawyer!
AdLib 7 days ago
It’s getting laughable, if the country weren ‘t in such jeopardy
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
I guess it’s for the best though, with the Trump mafia all under unvestigation, he loses most of his ability to do harm.
AdLib 7 days ago
Evening, gents. I’m not a witch, but what I am rhymes with witch, and I’m damn proud of it!
glenn
7 days ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn, Murph, Hi!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hi glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hello…..I thought Trump had gotten to our site and crashed it but the Mighty Ad Lib waved his Admin Wand and all was well.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
me too, for a minute, then it cleared up
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Thanks Murph! Trump did try to cast a spell on The Planet but like every Trump action, it backfired!
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–the only way trump could crash our site is by sheer accident. The man is not smart enough to crash anyone’s site.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–I’m guess trump keeps his wand in a place that makes the wand turn brown?
glenn
7 days ago
inaccessible huh??? WTF??
Harleigh
7 days ago
I’m kind of enjoying Trump losing his “I’m not under investigation!” consolation prize and going mental!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Harleigh!
glenn
7 days ago
How will that administration get anything done?
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Hey Harleigh! Trump cursed The Planet but we cursed him back.
AdLib 7 days ago
Oops, “I’m guessing….”
glenn
7 days ago
folks, what is EDVA?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
i don’t know. what is EDVA?
Harleigh
7 days ago
EDVA?
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–you know, that’s the sad part. While we’re all focused on trump and his twitter tantrums, the repub congresscritters are passing all kinds of evil legislation, and trying to get their stupid health care bill passed in secrecy.
glenn
7 days ago
Where’d you see EDVA?
AdLib 7 days ago
Remember when the shit hit the fan for Clinton? He was able to compartmentalize which maintained his ability to function and to lead….when the clouds cleared that was the foundation for a successful finish to his presidency.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
PPO–If it’s in reference to a court, it means “Eastern District of Virginia.”
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – I think the spotlight is growing on the Repub’s Senate gooons trying to pass their Scret Bill oof Death Panels.
AdLib 7 days ago
The only reference I know to EDVA is the Eastern District of Virginia.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Ad–and we all know that if you curse trump back, he twits away, because like all bullies, he’s just a scaredy cat.
glenn
7 days ago
Claude’s called it right about EDVA court action
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph – Clinton wasn’t clinically insane.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad….quite so…..definitely a plus for Clinton.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Maybe EDVA is canadian for covfefe?
Harleigh
7 days ago
Do you think Trump will try to fire Mueller?
AdLib 7 days ago
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
I’ll have a covfefe with extra EDVA.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I hope you’re right about the spotlight being put on the health notcare bill. We need to focus on that before the repubs sneak it through in the middle of the night, or something.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad I think that Trump will try to sabotage Mueller and will eventually move to fire him. It is how he does things…react, react, react, without appropriate guidance and breaks.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
I have to admit, I wake up each morning checking to see if Trump’s fired Mueller and/or declared martial law.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – So true and it’s a good thing that the Repub cabal is having so much trouble coming up with a plan they can get 51 votes on, giving time for the outrage against this anti-democratic process to build.
AdLib 7 days ago
They whole admin is going to find that they were not as sneaky as they thought and these investigations are going forward. The cover up will be as clumsy.
Harleigh
7 days ago
When lawyers are hiring lawyers to defend them the car is careening for the cliffs
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph – And what do you think the fallout would be from Trump firing Mueller?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–We all know that the health notcare bill is more about policy than health care, but it’s becoming increasingly clear that repubs are afraid to show this bill in public, because they know the public will hate it.
glenn
7 days ago
The stpid buggers are leaving a paper. electronic and money trail as big as the Amazon. It just needs Congress to do the duty they took an oath to do.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph – When lawyers hire lawyers, does one get a referral fee when paying the other?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, tax claim
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad….the fallout….public disdain, but his own base will hold so he is no worse off. Congressional action? Well, lots of sputtering and foaming but will the GOP majority in the House act. I do not think so
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Harleigh, yes, been thinking about how Trump and his klan thought they were so clever in working with the Russians and obstructing the Flynn investigation. Whoops!
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO- and therein lies the problem – the Congress i.e. the GOP have no interest in doing the right thing.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
no shit AD.
Harleigh
7 days ago
congress is using Dolt45 as a distraction. nothing more.
Harleigh
7 days ago
PPO….so funny
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
glenn – Only 17% of Americans support the House HC bill. 83% of Americas don’t support soomething and it’s going to be forced doown their throats to give the wealthy a tax cut? 23 million Americans losing HC? All that’s going to fly?
AdLib 7 days ago
Dolt 45…oh Harleigh how cruel and how on the mark!
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
PPO – An electronic trail beginning with all of his tweets too!
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – I think it would be a tipping point in the country, as our democracy wooul look lik a tyranny. Protests nationwide, Congress under politcal siege, Trump hunkered down behind the SS. I think the floodgates open if Trump fires Mueller.
AdLib 7 days ago
Surely, Ad, someone can put it all together. Maybe thats what Mueller is doing. Hope so, before they cut him loose
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad–Jay Bookman, a columnist at the Atlanta Journal Constitution, showed a conversation between John McCain and a VOX reporter where she asked McCain, “Generally, what are the big problems this bill is supposed to solve?” McCain’s answers: 1. “Almost of them. They’re trying to get 51 votes.” This is a direct quote. She kept trying to focus on what the bill was supposed to solve, and McCain just kept talking about getting “consensus”. Not once did he talk about what problems the bill was supposed to solve. As Bookman says at the end, “it ain’t policy” they’re talking about; it’s politics.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph that was coourtesy of KT! Thats all I refer to him as now.
Harleigh
7 days ago
PPO – I think Mueller will have cases that put Trump, Kushner, Flynn, Manafort and hopefully Sessions will be nailed. And so many more! This will need to be a RICO case!
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–You hit the nail on the head. The repubs will not do anything about trump. I don’t know when he will become a liablility. I’m thinking never.
glenn
7 days ago
BRB juggling a bit here
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad–do you think the new emoluments lawsuit will make any difference?
glenn
7 days ago
long as Dolt45 is there congress can do whatever they want, mostly in backrooms.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Here’s a story….one of my neighbors (about a mile away) had his House decorated in Trump Motif. MAGA painted on the roof. Campaign signs all over the fences. Big yard banners. AND one those things that has a fan blowing up it causing it to wave back and forth that looked like Trump. He was a Trump organizer and wore several campaign buttons all the time. I was STUNNED THIS WEEK when I drove by and most of it was down. I do not know him but a friend does and I asked her if she knew what was going on…and she said that the guy’s frustration has been building day by day and last week’s tweets apparently put it over the top….and he has had it. A trend? I hope so.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
lol
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – I think the Repub lose either way. If they pass this monstrosity against the wishes of 87% oof the country, they get creamed and lose power in 2018 and 2020 and if they don’t succeed in passing it, they still earn the hatred and look like losers.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–here’s hoping that trend continues!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad….the thing is that for that kind of reaction to happen the majority would need to know what is going on…..will they? AND if they do will they be able to organize or respond to organization?
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
glenn – I’m glad that the emoluments cases are moving ahead and they may indeed weave into Trump’s conflicts of interest in his dealings with Russia. The financial crimes Trump, Kushner and others in the Trump family are embroiled in will absolutely take them down!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I agree. They’ve painted themselves into the corner of “repeal Obamacare”, but as we’ve said since Obamcare was passed, they never had a replacement bill. IOW, they’ve been lying to their base for years. Let’s see, though, if the base’s hatred of Obamacare overcomes their hatred of liberals
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn your McCain story – it illustrates the reality. It is ALL about the win, no matter what it takes…and with no regard to the needs of the people.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
and they vote for a Dem, or stay at home in 2018 and 2020.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – That’s encouraging, one woould sure hope that as Trump buries himself legally and looks like an idiot, criminal and loser, thoose who voted for him believing his con job about what a smart, caring winner he is, woould finally get fed up with him.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–exactly! Here’s the link if you want to read the whole column, which includes the McCain conversation:
glenn
7 days ago
Murph–I don’t think repubs have been about the needs of the people for many years now.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–I think that trump’s supporters are finally getting tired of “winning”.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – I coould absolutely see smething like an Occupy Wall Street, national protest grow quickly after such an assault on our democracy. As you say, some Americans aren’t following everything but those whoo are, the many millions in The Resistence and even Repubs who care about our democracy, will have had enough at that point. If there was no reactioon, we will be consenting to living in a dictatorship. And that ain’t gonna happen!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…The thing that is really driving people to distraction is that Trump accepts NO responsibility for anything. MAN UP….is becoming the core critique.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Ad- as always your filter is CA and mine is MO…perhaps the reality is somewhere in between.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph–trump is his own worst enemy! Thank goodness! His blustering. lying, and exaggerating, which have served him for many years, are all falling apart now that he no longer can use his shady business practices to govern (or to be more precise–to try to govern).
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Yes, you’ve put your finger on it. The only reasons for passing the Secret Death Panel Bill is t give billions to the wealthy and “make good” on ther campaign promises to Repub primary voters to kill the ACA. They are looking so narrowly, they miss that 87% of the nation will be their enemy and as their voterslose healthcare, they’ll lose them too!
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn – thanks for the link.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
glenn – So much winning! Er…Trump is from Bizarro World, right?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, well, the 1% want returns on their electoral investments.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Glenn…..and he cannot hide from himself which was the key to skating out from under prior crises like this…he is the prez and everything he says or does has the potential to be front page
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph–you’re welcome. I read Bookman every day, and especially like to read the comments following his columns. It’s why I have such a different view of what’s on the minds of the American people than Ad does. There are many comments following Bookman’s columns about how it’s all the liberals’ fault for everything–no matter what it is. Sort of like trump–nothing is a repubs fault–it always comes back down to liberal “snowflakes”, Benghazi, Obama, or Hillary.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – Interesting, I have been wondering what line has to be croossed for the avid Trump supporters to come to their own conclusion that this isn’t working out. Personal responsibility? If that’s it, Trump is doomed!
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn, your filter in GA is much like mine in Mo.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Naval Disaster unfolding. Trump still tweeting with Hannity
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph – We do have different environments but the protests we’ve been seeing around thenation each month aren’t stopping and think Trump firing Cmey would be the unifying event that brings “La Revolution” to a climax.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph and Ad–In fact, here’s one response to the column that you have to love: “More illegals will be deported. Jobs up. MAGA” So yeah, our filters are about the same.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad….Macho is really big here and Men Take Responsibility … real men at least.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
glenn – How stupid is Trump looking to all but the deniers who support him? He’s said and tweeted and done all of the things that are bringing him down! The FBI hasn’t lifted a finger against him yet! And they will!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…the protests are urban and the urban/rural divide is huge….and in my part of the world even those city protests have been impressive but not a sign of overwhelming support.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph–I find that “responsibility” think is so situational with repubs. Usually the only ones who have to take responsibility for anything are blacks, Muslims, and liberals. When it’s a repub who has to “man up”, there’s always someone else to blame!
glenn
7 days ago
“responsibility” thing, not “think”.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–you ask, “how stupid is trump”? I don’t think we’ve actually found the answer to that question yet, but he sure is trying to show us how stupid he can be!
glenn
7 days ago
PPO – The 1% is going to have their #1 fear come true if this passes, the 99% are going to turn on them and it’s going to get ugly. Take away health care from people, you kill and destroy real human beings. There are graphic results and in a time when government has little trust, the torches and pitchfork crowds will be surrounding the enclaves of the wealthy. This is Les Mis if it happens. Without the singing.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–do you mean trump firing Mueller will be the unifying theme?
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Yes, that will set off a national explosion. It would be destroying our democracy and installing a tyrant.
AdLib 7 days ago
Well gents, time for me to toddle on out of here. Hope all you dads out there have a Happy Father’s Day. I’ll “see” you all next week.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad – have you seen this….Trump coming on stage to the protest them from Le Mis
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
me too glenn. have a good weekend all!
Harleigh
7 days ago
PPO – Yes, saw the story on the naval collision, pretty bad stuff.
AdLib 7 days ago
cheers, glenn. Me too, unfortunately. Just getting interesting!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Glenn…so nice to see you this week..a very important one and we who pay attention know why and how.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Harleigh…are you heading out as well….ah well….take care.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Ad….looks like it is just you and me……short but lots of energy tonight.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph – That’s pretty clever!
AdLib 7 days ago
What is?
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Les Mis over Trump.
AdLib 7 days ago
And deplorable
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Yep, people are really energized now!
AdLib 7 days ago
Well this one is not energized now….tired but glad I stayed up Vox….see you next week!
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Trump is under investigation…it’s public and when ou consider he’s only in his 5th month in office, it’s amazing!
AdLib 7 days ago
Sounds good! See you then, have a great weekend!
AdLib 7 days ago
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