Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 5 hours ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hi, Ad. Just heading out to see Fergie1 at the hospital. All went well and she is now recovering and has had her first few stwps as The Bionic Woman! Please pass on to the crew when thay log in and I’ll see you all next week.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
So good to hear! Thanks for updating us! Will share with the rest of the Planet and please bring our best thoughts to her with you!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Cheers! Bye for now.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hi Ad, so glad to read PPO’s good news.
glenn

2 hours ago
It is good to hear, hip replacements are done really well nowadays!
AdLib 2 hours ago
So what do you think about “The New Trump”?
AdLib 2 hours ago
So…Ad, can you pass the trumpster’s extreme vetting test? Did you see where The Daily Show asked trump supporters some of the so-called questions? Hysterical!
glenn

2 hours ago
I missed that, will catch that!
AdLib 2 hours ago
You mean the trump who “apologized”, then got in the way in LA to help distribute boxes. Kinda like Paul Ryan washing the clean dishes at the soup kitchen.
glenn

2 hours ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Harleigh! How goes it?
glenn

2 hours ago
Hi guys!
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Ad–and to answer your question, I think the “new trump” sucks more than the “old trump”. Pivot, my ass!
glenn

2 hours ago
glenn – He as there for only like 15 minutes! And he just inserted himself and Pence into a line handing boxes of Play Doh! Really?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ad–But, I thought the yachting blazer was a nice touch, didn’t you?
glenn

2 hours ago
glenn – With props to KT for posting this last week, here’s the new Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1FLZPFI3jc

AdLib 2 hours ago
LOL!
glenn

2 hours ago
Just following the drumph daily gaffes LOL Palin was not this stupid.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
glenn – Thurston Trump the Third handed out a few boxes of Play Doh then flew away. Where was Lovie?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Harleigh–yes she was, and is. She just didn’t use twitter to twit out her stupidity.
glenn

2 hours ago
Harleigh and glenn – Do you think everyone is suddenly going to forget who Trump is if he keeps acting like he’s not a lunatic?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ad–Lovie was practicing her “acceptance” speech (plagarized from someone, I’m sure) for when Thurston wins. We haven’t seen much of “Lovie” lately. I wonder why?
glenn

2 hours ago
glenn – She vants to be alone!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ad–If Hillary Clinton and the Democrats don’t keep reminding people of all of trump’s stupidity, then they are not the fighters I thought they were. I don’t think Elizabeth Warren, nor Joe Biden, nor President Obama will let them forget. And, I saw Hillary’s campaign manager on Rachel last night, and he is GOOD! And cute as a button, to boot!
glenn

2 hours ago
Hey trouble makers! How goes it?
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Hillary is doing exactly what I’d hope, she’s flooding the airwaves with video of Trump saying horrible things so he can’t hide behind this phony “nice” persona.
AdLib 2 hours ago
she probably has bruises and black eye for embarrassing him so badly with plagiarizing and from Michelle Obama no less.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
KT!!! We’re trying to make as much trouble as possible! Keeps life interesting!
glenn

2 hours ago
Yes it does glenn!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
i agree Ad. Her ads are pretty devastating.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
And it’s so disgusting how Trump is claiming to care about the black community after all his racist attacks on Obama’s nationality, mexicans being racists and Muslims being barred from the country.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Harleigh–I truly hope not. In a way, I have to feel sorry for her; not only is trump in way over his head, she has to be terrified!
glenn

2 hours ago
causing trouble naturally
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Hey KT!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Trump’s playing to moderate republicans. He’s trying to look like he has “compassion.”
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Whoops, meant “mexican judges being racist and mexicans being rapists”.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Glad to hear it Harleigh! Keep up the good work!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
What’s up Ad?
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
KT–I think bookies are taking bets on how long trump’s compassion will last. I give it till Monday! What say you?
glenn

2 hours ago
Trump is coming off now as a ventriliquist dummy, emphasis on the “dummy”.
AdLib 2 hours ago
i give it until noon tomorrow, providing he stays off of Twitter tonight.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Hey KT, living the Trump-Loser! dream!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Tonite drumph said in 2020 he will get 95% of the black vote. He’s just a fucking loon. It is not really funny anymore.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
He really is. Kelly Anne is working her “magic,” on him. Trump has looked into the void. Now he’s playing the Humble Guy act.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Harleigh – He’d have 95% of the black community pounding on the door of the WH in 2020.
AdLib 2 hours ago
KT – But do you think that BS will work?
AdLib 2 hours ago
he’s fired one rwnj after another and finally got some from under the barrel.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Ad–here’s what republicans don’t get. It’s not only trump that is a mess; so are their policies. So even if trump does “act presidential” and/or “stick to the script”, they don’t understand that Americans don’t like the “script.”
glenn

2 hours ago
Au Contraire Harleigh. Now that I know he’s going to get his ass handed to him by Hillary, I see Trump as pure entertainment. Like some sort of weird political roadside attraction.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
No, I don’t Ad. I think Trump has all the supporters he’s going to get. Thank goodness for video, huh?
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Harleigh–OMG–you mean we’ll have to go through this again in 2020? How does he think that’s going to happen? What a delusional loon!
glenn

2 hours ago
The whole campaign has been hysterical
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Harleigh – We’ll see Trump flame out for good once Bannon (The Breitbart slimeball) let’s loose his Alt Right craziness on Hillary. Trump will become even more hated.
AdLib 2 hours ago
It really has Harleigh. A real freak show. Or I should say SLEAZE show.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
glenn – Trump’s policies are hateful, greedy and racist…not to mention terribly destructive. He can only run on propaganda, not his actual policies.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Trump is slowly treading his way to the Elephant’s Graveyard.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Ad–so what else can the come up with? HIllary is already responsible for 9/11/01, for ISIS, for losing jobs, and for the floods in LA. What else can they throw at her without sounding like complete idiots? Oops, scratch that last part. They don’t care if they look like complete idiots!
glenn

2 hours ago
HIs trip to Louisiana is a farce.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Wel as you all know I cruise the rw haven over at ‘the hill’. HRC has a brain diease now, has murdered over 100 enemies over the last 30 years and is a raging drunk. How crazy is that.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
KT – I agree, they are really displaying a very low opinion of the intelligence of Americans, openly trying to trick them into voting for this racist sociopath. I agree, I don’t think people are so stupid.
AdLib 2 hours ago
She also has syphillis! That’s what they’re saying. And dysphasia.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Ad–exactly. But those aren’t only trump’s policies; those are the republican party’s policies. Trump has just lifted up the lid of “political correctness” and showed the repub sewer underneath.
glenn

2 hours ago
I don’t either, Ad.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
glenn – You left out Hillary’s responsibility for Zika, BLM and acid reflux.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Harleigh–IOW, the same old crap they’ve been peddling for 30 years, with the added “attractions” of syphillis, brain disease, and alcoholism. It’s a wonder the woman can get out of bed in the morning!
glenn

2 hours ago
and now her and oblamma have signed into law the removal of ‘under gawd’ from the pledge that was inserted in 1956.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Damn that Hillary!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Ad–oops, sorry. It’s so hard to keep track of all she’s done!
glenn

2 hours ago
Harleigh, those kinds of crazy attacks will get louder but will only prove Trump and his army to be lunatics.
AdLib 2 hours ago
You mean prove, further.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Harleigh–have they really removed it? Doesn’t that take an act of Congress? As if we could get Congress to “act”. Have they signed the law taking away everyone’s guns yet?
glenn

2 hours ago
Trump’s trip to Louisiana was a total photo op. He was shown helping to unload a truck full of stuff for the people there. He did it for 49 seconds and quit when the cameras stopped rolling.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
glenn HRC and obummer have signed laws taking away everyone’s guns every year since 2009! Havn’t they come for yours yet? LOL
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Here’s what I think, this phony charade by Trump may only slightly reduce Hillary’s numbers but once he makes another gaffe, it’s all over for him. And what will be the final nail in the coffin of “Kinder, Gentler Trump” will be the debates. He will have to get really nasty against Hillary because he is so desperate that he will come away looking so horrible, he will go down even more.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Howdy Ad, Glenn, Harleigh and KT
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Good point Ad.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Hey Murph.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
hi murph!
Harleigh

2 hours ago
KT – Hope Hillary can get the footage of Trump coming then going in LA, make a commercial jumping every 10 seconds then show him leaving. Ouch!
AdLib 2 hours ago
That would be a good ad. Trump is trying to shame Obama by going there. From what I’ve heard, him and his camp, plus SS agents and such have done nothing but get in the way of resucue and clean up.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Gov. Edwards asked the President and the two candidates to please stay away as visits like this pull essential resources away from those who most need them……did you see how the SS dressed for the visit. Combat gear.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
The debates will be the last straw to seal Trump’s fate as a disaster. He can’t just debate, he’s looking at losing by such a huge margin, he knows (and his extremist team will push him) that he will have to come out like a rabid dog to try and attack and stun Hillary. But it won’t work.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Exactly Murph. The president is going down there on this coming Tuesday.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
With the new RWNJ’s he just added it is going to get way way worse. He got the nom from out whackdodlin 20 other whackdoodles and thinks he can keep on thru the general election.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Murph – Well, Trump was going into enemy territory, wasn’t he? You know, a part of America that isn’t all white?
AdLib 2 hours ago
What do you all think of the theory being put forward that Trump and the Breitbart crowd are looking to launch another Fox and another Tea Party with both outside of the GOP stable.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Trump supplied water and “toys,” for the children. What a goof. When the president shows up, he’s going to have relief money for these people. That’s what they need, not toys.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Murph – Glad you brought that up. I don’t think it was or is his first choice but I think it sure looks like the kind of consolation prize he would love.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Wouldn’t surprise me Murph. I don’t think they’ll be very successful though.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Both will be further to the right with a higher crazy factor….built on the claim that the election was stolen and now they must set up a permanent body to fight the corruption from both parties.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Hey Murph–I was gone for a minute, and you made your entrance. As for the theory of “trump tv”, it’s as plausible as any other theory about trump. Most of us have known from the beginning that he’s in this to benefit trump and no one else.
glenn

2 hours ago
KT – “I have no food, shelter, transportation or money. Thanks for handing out Play Doh for 50 seconds Mr. Trump!”
AdLib 2 hours ago
Exactly Ad. He’s such a doucebag.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
add it up… no minorities, women or educated whites really cuts down his chances don’t you think?
Harleigh

2 hours ago
KT–President Obama has already supplied lots of relief money for LA.
glenn

2 hours ago
To use a favorite Trumpism…Big Time, Harleigh.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
he is going to lose bigly, with the best words.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Murph – I will bet a lot of money that if such a venture did happen, it wouldn’t be long until Trump, Shannon and others who are a part of it turn on each other battling for power and control over the loony lemmings and destroy the whole thing.
AdLib an hour ago
Harleigh– well we all know how difficult math is for republicans. Just ask Rove. From what I’ve been reading, trump will get about 30-40% and that’s about it!
glenn

an hour ago
Ad–or go bankrupt with trump making money off the bankruptcy somehow.
glenn

an hour ago
40% is the lowest any candidate on record has received, if I’m not mistaken.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
30-40% of the vote.
glenn

an hour ago
Harleigh – Most Americans see Trump as a con man and this act he’s putting on only confirms it and makes him look even more evil. He is toast.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad……that could well happen….still it gives Trump a “graceful” exit…face saving.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph–I hope that the cameras are on that hateful face when he loses “bigly”.
glenn

an hour ago
they would do us all a favor, the repubs and the Kochsuckers that started this shit in 2009 will be greatly diminished and all the rw h8ers will be left on their own. win win for dems.
Harleigh

an hour ago
glenn – I would bet low 40’s for Trump. Hillary will be around 50% and Johnson and Stein will get a combined 10% or so,
AdLib an hour ago
Trump was saying if he loses it’s because the election is rigged. Only a loser would make that claim. This way Trump can avoid being called a loser (something he dreads, I think) and he’ll simply say I was cheated.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Glenn…I expect that a loss by Trump will be denied by all on his side including himself. I would not be at al surprised if he refused to concede.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
oh man, could you imagine a Trump concession speech? HA!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph–if he actually refuses to concede, would that change anything? Will he tie the courts up with his refusal?
glenn

an hour ago
I think the courts will just refuse to hear such cases glenn. If they can do that.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
I also happen to really fuckin hate his 2 asshole sons Bevis and Butthaid. They were out hunting endangered animals the past couple weeks. They really need killin. sorry… a mass hunting accident.
Harleigh

an hour ago
Murph – I wouldn’t say that, Trump is not going to concede gracefully, I think he’ll try to burn the house down on his way out, screaming about the election being rigged and cheating going on everywhere. His supporters may cheer him on but the nation will see him as the disgusting thing that he is.
AdLib an hour ago
Hareigh, those two really creep me out. Evil spawn.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Glenn..the concession is not required but it then requires an official announcement from the FEC after each state reports its official results.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
KT–“Hillary may have gotten more votes than me, but I won the election. Just ask anyone who came to my rallies; they were HUUUGE! So you losers can say Hillary won a rigged election, but it doesn’t mean I lost.” Or something like that, if he actually does concede.
glenn

an hour ago
Harleigh – Agreed, the GOP will be tarred by Trump and his bigot brigade for a long time. And when Ryan runs in 2020 as I’m pretty sure he will, he will never escape being an endorser and supporter of Trump’s.
AdLib an hour ago
That’s pretty darn close to something he would actually say glenn.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
i think Ryan might just lose his seat before too long.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
i know he’s already lost his mind.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad..I put “graceful” in quotations to indicate that he will consider has calling the results false because of cheating and a refusal to concede “graceful”….it is an out without being out.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
KT – Yep, that’s the point of his laying the “rigged election” groundwork. He knows he’s going to lose and he has to say that he actually won. But he will be the biggest loser of a presidential campaign we’ve seen in modern times.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–and that’s as it should be–ryan should be tagged with his trump endorsement for the rest of his life.
glenn

an hour ago
KT…..Ryan is in a very safe district……..
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Glenn….your non-concession speech sounds like Trump…
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph–the President nailed it–how can you call cheating before an election even happens?
glenn

an hour ago
i really hope Hillary wins by the biggest landslide in US history. The GOP needs to be humiliated. Big Time!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
glenn – Not a problem, the electoral votes are declared by each state, Trump has no recourse when he loses.
AdLib an hour ago
i wonder for how long, Murph?
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT and Murph–It’s not hard to imitate him. On the other hand, I find it difficult to do the palindora’s word salad.
glenn

an hour ago
Beat poets are stumped by Sarah’s word salad.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Harleigh – Right with you on that, The Trump Scumboys are creepy little clones.
AdLib an hour ago
To rig a national election would take way too much as there are thousands of precincts run by county/state gubmints. no way I say… and the courts have demolished most of the suppression shit.
Harleigh

an hour ago
I think Eric actually LOOKS demonic.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT–I agree. Would 50-40% be considered a “landslide”? I hope trump gets less than 40% so he can brag about being the “biggest loser.”
glenn

an hour ago
Glenn….he pointed to the DNC and the treatment of Sanders; to the RNC’s efforts to push him out; to the myth of voter fraud; and to his dismissal of the polls (the new ones not the old ones that had him winning
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
glenn – I heard that Trump’s fanboys are insisting that all the polls are wrong and that Trump will win 45-49 states!
AdLib an hour ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
TRump has actually released an ad I hear. It is reported to be filled with fearmongering and hatred. Color me shocked!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad–wasn’t it Breitbart that set out to prove that all the polls were wrong, then did their own poll, and still Hillary won? Now that the Breitbart head is in charge of the campaign, I wonder if the polls will “miraculously” change?
glenn

an hour ago
Murph – Got it! I agree, he may think claiming election fraud protects his image of being a loser but for most of America, he will look like the worst loser in presidential history and I think, become a pariah. Especially if any of his lunatic fringe show up armed in DC or something insane like that.
AdLib an hour ago
totally delusional. Now the dems need to shore up the downtickets in every race. seriously.
Harleigh

an hour ago
KT – I think Hillary will have a huge electoral landslide victory.
AdLib an hour ago
i fear there may be another Tim McVeigh among the Trump Chumps. I’m not worried about the majority of them. They’re WLBs.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
I do too.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad….the Trump rally rooms are bubbles…
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Harleigh – So true, rigging elections across the country would be beyond ridiculous and all those Repubs trying to pass Voter ID laws can’t even prove there’s ever been any voter fraud in their state!
AdLib an hour ago
I think proven voter fraud is at about less than 1%
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph–when you stop to think about it, I think the DNC treated Sanders very well. After all, he only became a Democrat to run in the primaries. And, the DNC has adopted many of his ideas into the platform. And, as soon as Sanders lost the primary, he went back to being an “Independent” again. Big deal, the DNC had someone who has been a Democrat for over thirty years, and favored that candidate. That’s not “rigging” that’s reality. And, that’s why trump and his supporters don’t understand it; they don’t get reality.
glenn

an hour ago
well I gotta get to bed so I can work tomorrow. good seeing everybody. nite.
Harleigh

an hour ago
Take it easy H!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad……I think he is looking to create a permanent Troop of Trumpistas with their own RWNJ news source…..what others think will not matter to him.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
‘Nite Harleigh.Sleep well.
glenn

an hour ago
glenn – That sounds about right! I’m surprised the Repub nutjobs haven’t set up another “Unskewed Polls” site as they did for Mitt that “proved” he was ahead of Obama and would win by a landslide.
AdLib an hour ago
Night Harleigh!
AdLib an hour ago
ailes will be in the mix somehow.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Bye Harleigh.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – Perfect image f the GOP!
AdLib an hour ago
Murph–yup. He already knows he’s losing; hence the “rigging” claims. As you say, he just wants to save face, and still be able to have adoring fans wherever he goes–in the rwnj world, that is.
glenn

an hour ago
Is that TRump’s tiny hand holding the pin?
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – Actually, voter fraud isn’t even 1%, it is statistically non-existent.
AdLib an hour ago
And racism no longer exists, so who needs voter protection laws?
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
I continue to believe he came into the race to amp up his brand. Without the kind of stunt we are talking about here he exits the race with his brand in ruins.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
AmIright?
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT and Ad–and according to around 50% of men polled, sexism doesn’t exist any more, either.
glenn

an hour ago
Bitches!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph–I truly think his brand was in ruins when he decided to run. That’s why we haven’t seen his taxes!
glenn

an hour ago
Murph – I agree, Trump would relish getting to continue as the petty dictator for the mindless racists out there and I think that he could continue for a while after the election. But as they get attracted to the next shiny new sociopath running for President, he’ll lose them as Palin did.
AdLib an hour ago
KT–yup! And I’m going to vote for the “head bitch”.
glenn

an hour ago
Me too glenn. That bitch don’t play!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT–this may surprise you, given my sunny personality and all, but I have a pin, given to me by one of my dearest friends, that says, “Bitch Goddess”. It’s one of my proudest possessions!
glenn

an hour ago
Glenn makes a good point….the tax returns holdout is a sign of how weak his brand is right now…AND Ad you are likely correct….the Not-So-Breit Barts will use Trump and then toss hi away as his luster fades.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
LOL!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph – I’m sure he figured that running would help his celebrity and branding but I think he originally got in thinking how great it would be to become more important, to have millions more listening to him about what he thinks and being on the biggest stage under the biggest spotlight. I don’t think he got in confident he would win.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad…but t may also be that he got in with a weakened brand and looked to this gambit to juice it up.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I think the weight of the job of president of the US would crush Trump in weeks.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph–and Hillary should keep pounding about those tax returns. BTW, did you see where a couple of Dem lawmakers are trying to pass a law that says presidential candidates MUST release their tax returns?
glenn

an hour ago
KT and I think in his heart of hearts he knows that.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I do too, Murph. I don’t think he ever thought he’d get this far.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Glenn…..
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph and Ad–I’ve seen a couple of articles in the past few days that call for Hillary to close down the Clinton Family Foundation to remove all stain of funneling money into it. I think journalists should be asking both Hillary and trump what they plan to do with their businesses when they are president. Trump, especially, should have to account for his “holdings”, as should Hillary.
glenn

an hour ago
i would love to him become one of “the little people.”
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph–I thought that was Leona Helmsley’s saying.
glenn

an hour ago
Glenn…it is but it captures Trump well as well
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
And just like the chicken followed GHW Bush when he was refusing to debate Bill Clinton, who’s started appearing around Trump Tower? http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/j57vtt/picture96551697/ALTERNATES/FREE_640/Donald%20Ducks%20(2)
AdLib an hour ago
KT–he is already one of the “little people”; one of the little, losing people.
glenn

an hour ago
Murph–point taken.
glenn

an hour ago
Oh, the chicken thing was hilarious.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Glenn…the foundation is tricky..they have already announced that if Hillary is elected the foundation will shut down its fundraising from corporations and foreign countries.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph–that’s good to hear. I hadn’t heard that. There is a difference between the Clinton Global Initiative and the Foundation, right? What will happen with the CGI?
glenn

an hour ago
The Foundation is the CGI. I believe.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph–that’s why people are calling for her to shut it down, now, I guess.
glenn

an hour ago
I heard they might rename the CGI after another president.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph–okay, but isn’t there something called the Clinton Family Foundation?
glenn

an hour ago
KT…..Nixon?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
glenn – There is a concerted effort in the MSM right now to attack Hillary and try and change the race to being closer. That POS Chris Matthews used his show yesterday to promote Trump and kiss the ass of Kellyanne Conway, agreeing with every lie she spouted. What an unprincipled ratings chaser Matthews is.
AdLib an hour ago
Ah, probably not!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Job security Ad.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad–I agree. Matthews is getting on my last nerve lately. I don’t watch his show but I do read about his antics online.
glenn

an hour ago
Ad…absolutely….as the race has progressed the newsers are seeing a decline in ratings— so time to even up the benches….
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – Can you imagine how Trump’s brand will have soured after the election? Yes, he may get a windfall for a while off his slavish followers but eventually they will leave him and his “empire” will collapse in on itself. Who will see the Trump name as meaning quality anymore?
AdLib an hour ago
I think he admires Conway. I have no idea why. I saw her on Real Time a while back, and she was the dumbest guest on the whole show.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT–well how smart can she be if she works for trump?
glenn

an hour ago
Exactly. She’s chasing a new career and a big paycheck.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad…I do know that there are a number of properties that have dropped their Trump branding as controversy swirled around him.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – But it’s not going to work. I would suggest that the public has ODed on Trump now, they’ve seen enough of him and are just annoyed now. They want to change the channel, elect Hillary and be done with him. And none of the MSM cheerleading will substantially change that. America doesn’t want Trump near a nuclear button.
AdLib an hour ago
KT–well, I hope she gets her pay in cash, because I wouldn’t trust a check from trump for anything. I hope she has a contract and he pays her what’s in the contract. Although even if she has a contract, if (sorry, when) he loses the election, he will stiff her like he’s done to so many other people.
glenn

an hour ago
Cable news really has to be taken with a grain or two of salt.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
wouldn’t surprise.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph – And Trump’s lost corporate support. US banks won’t loan to him. He has made himself into a social leper. He just doesn’t know it because the other lepers are packing his rallies.
AdLib an hour ago
I Am The Leper King?
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad….I will be interested in poling in the next two weeks. If what you say is so, it will show up quickly…. The emperor has no clothes?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
KT–good one.
glenn

an hour ago
Murph–did you say what the New York City Parks Dept. said when they took down the statue in NY?
glenn

an hour ago
I saw that earlier today and yesterday. It’s hilarious. Teeny weenie and no balls!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Thanks glenn!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Conway is a total hack, she just blathers non-stop all kinds of BS. Her game is to regurgitate a giant mounatin of BS that can’t all be attacked, hoping some of it will sink in. Maybe it does with uneducated white males.
AdLib an hour ago
One thing is obvious around here…the Trump signs have largely disappeared from lawns and so have the bumperstickers.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
that’s a good omen, Murph.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph – Well said and very funny!
AdLib an hour ago
hey, Trump said he was sorry? HAHAHAHAHA! For what, he never said.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad…that is a common characteristic of his spokespeople ……blather, stonewall, and filibuster…..
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – That’s good to hear, I think the MSM and Trump are worried about something that is likely true, there is no coming back from how far behind he is. It’s not going to happen, even with Matthews crawling after Conway.
AdLib an hour ago
Murph–my neighbor across the street has one in her garage that I see only when she opens her garage door. In her defense, we are not allowed to put up yard signs in our neighborhood, so I guess she has to “make do”. I think she had several of them; so I think she distributed them somewhere. I am loving that trump and Hillary are now essentially tied in GA.
glenn

an hour ago
AND…I have read that the Clinton campaign has not even opened up its second level opposition research ….. ready to dump it…..
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Matthews is kind of a strange guy. I’ve seen him go after other Trump surrogates, but then he gives Conway a pass.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph – It’s sort of a corruption of the original political concept of throwing so much BS against the wall that it can’t all be wiped away. Now it’s just a blizzard of BS and none of it can be listened to by non-RWs.
AdLib an hour ago
Glenn……….it is the same here…a dead heat which is giving the Dem state ticket a big boost.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Ad…goood description.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph–ain’t it great? Do you think Dems will be able to take the Senate back? I don’t think we can “flip the House”, but I think we can make some inroads into repub control. What do you think?
glenn

an hour ago
They don’t give the interviewer enough time to debunk their bullshit. It’s rapid fire.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
How about Manafort’s criminal, anti-American activity coming to light? And on the same day Manafort leaves, Trump attacks Hillary for being corrupt and beholden to foreign interests! And Trump still french kisses Putin!
AdLib an hour ago
glenn – I think Dems will get The Senate back and a lot of House seats. But if Trump drops even more “bigly” in the polls, who knows what could happen in The House???
AdLib an hour ago
KT–watched Joy Reid interview a trump supporter, and she made him stay on topic. She kept interrupting him and asking him the question again, which he never really answered, but she was unrelenti
glenn

an hour ago
unrelenting. She is great!
glenn

an hour ago
yeah glenn I saw that. I can’t remember that guy’s name, but he’s a real assholian. I like Joy!
KillgoreTrout

44 minutes ago
Glenn….Senate, yes. Shrink the majority in the House and set sights on redistricting.
MurphTheSurf3

44 minutes ago
glenn – That’s the same thing I’m seeing with every Trump surrogate, they NEVER answer the questions they’re being asked about Trump, always evading with an attack on Hillary or some general BS. They all look like liars.
AdLib 43 minutes ago
Abolish Gerrymandering.
KillgoreTrout

43 minutes ago
And they are, Ad!
KillgoreTrout

43 minutes ago
Ad–is Donna Brazile doing anything like Dean’s 50-state strategy?
glenn

43 minutes ago
Ad…and there are two others with Russian connections in the campaign and Gen Flynn who works for RT news.
MurphTheSurf3

43 minutes ago
glenn…I saw Joy as well….boom!
MurphTheSurf3

42 minutes ago
KT–beat me to it. They all look liars because they all are liars.
glenn

42 minutes ago
lies and the lying liars who tell them!
KillgoreTrout

42 minutes ago
I thought for a minute, Joy was going to kick him off the show.
KillgoreTrout

42 minutes ago
KT – After Hillary appoints another SCOTUS judge and the court is at least moderate (hopefully a Dem Senate would approve a more liberal justice if there’s another vacancy), I woould like to see a case brought over gerrymandering. Just think if the SCOTUS outlawed it! This country would become so different!
AdLib 41 minutes ago
It sure would. Gerrymandering is sooo 18th century!
KillgoreTrout

41 minutes ago
Ad-if we don’t have gerrymandering, then how are Congressional districts determined? I think I need a civics lesson.
glenn

41 minutes ago
It should be done by population.
KillgoreTrout

40 minutes ago
Several states have the non and bi partisan commission model for redistricting and that seems to be a good way to go.
MurphTheSurf3

39 minutes ago
glenn – Not Brazile, she is old school estab Dem and they don’t help to grow the party, the growth is with Progressivism, the Dem Party already has all the Dems. But Hillary has pulled out of CO and VA to try and dislodge GA and other Repubs states. If you think about winning this strategically, Trump is sunk. He now has to pour resources to hold off Hillary in red states instead of expanding into blue states. He’s going to go nuts…more nuts…I hope!
AdLib 39 minutes ago
Well guys and gal, I’m going to mosey off into the sunset for now. Have a great weekend all.
KillgoreTrout

38 minutes ago
BTW ….. where is Bernie?
MurphTheSurf3

38 minutes ago
Murph – Yes, Trump’s campaign couldn’t be more of a Moscovian Candidate than it is!
AdLib 38 minutes ago
KT..take care….
MurphTheSurf3

38 minutes ago
Well….we few, we happy few…..about to be fewer… I am heading to bed….
MurphTheSurf3

36 minutes ago
glenn – Gerrymandering is the manipulation of redistricting so as to hurt the party out of power and exaggerate your own party’s representation. Redistricting is normal due to population changes and should happen but not gerrymandering.
AdLib 36 minutes ago
Seeya Murph, sleep well!
AdLib 36 minutes ago
Well glenn, looks like it’s about time to close up the Vox bar for the night! Have a great weekend!
AdLib 34 minutes ago
Night Ad. I missed saying good night to Murph and KT.
glenn

34 minutes ago
No worries! Sleep well!
AdLib 33 minutes ago
You do the same.
glenn

33 minutes ago

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