Hey Beatlex!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad!
Beatlex

7 days ago
What’s up?
AdLib 7 days ago
Trumps sanity is being questioned now? What took so long? People with a whit of smarts knows there is something wrong with this guy
Beatlex

7 days ago
It just took getting out of the GOP primary…once normal voters were involved.
AdLib 7 days ago
He’s a sick little weasel.
AdLib 7 days ago
really,and he provides a stupid remark almost hourly
Beatlex

7 days ago
And today he sounded like a beaten dog as he endorsed all the Repubs he swore he wouldn’t endorse.
AdLib 7 days ago
Be back soon,Hillary is lucky she has him as the nominee,she would be beatable with a real foe.But the R’s didn’t put one up
Beatlex

7 days ago
She is so lucky indeed. See you shortly.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Murph! Repubs running for the hills in MO?
AdLib 7 days ago
Checking in early tonight…..no meetings!!!!!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Repubs are worried here at many levels…..starting with the Presidency…..tied
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Cool, nice to see you early! More folks will be here shortly. So what do you think of The Week of Trump Self-Immolation?
AdLib 7 days ago
I know! Amazing! And hillary up in GA???
AdLib 7 days ago
Hillary up in Georgia and a number of the GOP intelligentsia ready to commit seppuku!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hari kiri?
AdLib 7 days ago
Yes.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Even if Trump begins “acting” presidential it can now clearly be labeled ACTING and only that. To see him robotically reading his “endorsement” of McCain and Ryan tonight is a preview.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I know we’re still 3 months away so too early to get too crazy but August should be a dead month then the debates are in September and I don’t see any way Trump comes off well after them.
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump will be told to use August to prep for the debates as Palin did…..but the difference is that Palin was the VP and at that point still taking orders. Trump is the P and takes orders from no one.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
And I have to say, all the BS in the MSM about “Can Trump turn this around?” “Can Trump act more Presidential?” If you see someone bite the head off a rat, if he stops doing it, do you change your opinion of him? No way.
AdLib 7 days ago
I have been asked to take on a leadership role in the Clinton campaign here but I am too far away from the areas that are likely to swing in her direction. I cannot take time off from what I do now as I did in 2008.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
And Hillary is no dope, she will do her absolute best to get under Trump’s skin in the debate and Trump’s face will grow red if he tries to hold back…which I dooubt he can. Then his nasty attack on her will only remind voters of what a nutcase he is.
AdLib 7 days ago
Howdy KT
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
hey, and other fellow Planet peeps.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
That was supposed to be hey Murph, and other…..
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I just watched a clip of him talking about Clinton….again robotic and not his words….I don’t think he will keep this up for more than a few days. His crowd in Green Bay by the way is small…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
That’s cool, Murph! Would take a lot of time and energy to go all over there though.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey KT! Happy Trump Implosion Week!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey KT….I got the point. I am a peep.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Happy Trump Implosion…indeed!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
And I am committed to working the Senate race in Il.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
We’re all peeps, Murph in the grand scheme of things!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hah!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Heh!
AdLib 7 days ago
Right now, I’m having a big piece of triple layer chocolate cake, with some good Columbian coffee.! Ah, ain’t life grand?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
When Trump has to read off of something, he talks like a bad actor.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT…I have some grapes and cherries post evening chores….too hot to work in the afternoon.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
LOL! Don’t let my sister see those. She’s a Peep-a-holic!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I hear that. Hot as hell in Ohio right now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – That sounds dee-licious!!!
AdLib 7 days ago
We were at 97 air temp this afternoon but the humidity created a heat index of 128…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
He’s not used to reading, Ad. Unless it’s Mein Kampf!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Mmmmmm!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hillary has got to be toasting Trump this weekend!
AdLib 7 days ago
That would be suicide temps for me Murph!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Yep, he only sounds natural reading the words of dictators.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT…me too…so I rise at 5 and work until 11 and then go inside until 6 and work until 8:30 or so.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Wise man, Murph!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sun stroke is nothing to sneer at.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Did any of you see Clintons “presser” today…if so, any impressions…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
sure isn’t. I was stationed in the Mojave desert for a couple of months, back in the 70s. Whew boy! Death Valley, no less.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Stationed in Death Valley? Doing what for God’s Sake?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Desert training Murph.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Have to ask, why hasn’t Hillary come up with a simple and somewhat (at least) honest response to the email server issue? She still stumbles through it and if not for Trump’s bigger self-destruction, she’d be in bigger trouble.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ah
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Alkali Canyon!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…that is my impression too….is she just so embarrassed she can’t cope with it, or does she feel that she was justified and just can’t say why, or….what??? baffling….she is not swift or sure on her feet with the press…never has been.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
HIllary is not really your run of the mill politician. She much better at policy!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Alkali Canyon:
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT…..a policy wonk and not a rhetorician
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Yep. That’s what it looked like, in the hills surrounding our camp.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Exactly Murph!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hillary is going chew off Trumps head and spit it out, during the debate. I think there will only be one. What’s Trump going to do, call her “Crooked Hillary,” for 90 minutes?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Part of Hillary’s personal issues stem from her ego and defensiveness. She tried to hide her emails from being used against her in a run for the Presidency (after being attacked most of her adult life, I do understand) and felt justified in hiding what should be public info so she lied about it afterward. She also doesn’t want to admit that she did something wrong because of her ego so she chose lying as a first resort and now she’s still tap dancing around the truth. Just fess up, apologize and move on please. She can see Trump destroying himself via his ego, shouldn’t she learn from that?
AdLib 7 days ago
I have to say this, she’s been hounded for years by the republicans and the press. I think I’d be a little defensive too.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – I agree, Hillary will have him for lunch in a debate. And yes, Trump will come armed with many insults and lies to hurl at her as he tries to keep her on the defensive instead of attacking him.
AdLib 7 days ago
I don’t think shell fall for his playground tactics. I sure hope not. That’s Trump home turf.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…I thing your reading is very accurate.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – Imagine how much more understanding and trust there would be for her though if she said, “Frankly, I knew that the Repubs would do just what they’re doing after all the horrible things they twisted out of proportion when I was First lady. I tried to find a way to do my job as SoS without giving the Repubs a chance to take my emails out of context and create false accusations. It was wrong, I’ve learned from that and I absolutely would never do anything like that again, I would just take my lumps and work to come out on top.”
AdLib 7 days ago
I am now watching Johnson and Weld, the Libertarian Ticket…two impressive guys.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Is Hillary going to raise middle class taxes?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Her team might think that her opponents would say she was whining. I’d bet on it.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad….you should be on the Hillary Communication Team.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Trump will load up on the most outrageous conspiracy theories and lies and dump them mercilessly on Hillary…who will need to quickly deflect them then return to destroying Trump with truth.
AdLib 7 days ago
all she has to do is smile and say, OK, now back to policy!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
ad…….so much in the debates depends on the moderation structure and what I have read is that it will be tough for Trump (and the audiences are entirely different than he is used to)
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Well…maybe impressive like white bread could be impressive when offered stale bread instead but one thing you will never hear from those opportunists is what they really stand for doing. They want to end SS, Medicare, Obamacare, all social welfare nets, slash taxes and create a massive deficit, but they won’t tell you that. They’re just putting on a facade of “We’re the nice, reasonable guys.”
AdLib 7 days ago
All HIllary has to do is bring a cranky baby, and Trump’s finished!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad..I was commenting on their policy but rather on how they handle themselves…far classier than Trump.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
A republican administration would put an end to any and all social and economic progress we’ve made since WWII.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Trump supporters don’t want no stinking policy talk!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Thanks Murph! I just think she needs to loook like she’s done what we know she’s done and have faith that with Trump doing something outrageous every day, the public won’t hold it against her in the long run and it will become old news. She’s the one who keeps breathing life into it by continuing to lie about it and duck responsibility for what she is proven to have done.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…agreed.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I am stepping out for a few minutes to take a call…back soon….Duckworth business.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
What has she been lying about? I haven’t read much about her this past week.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – The thing is, the bar is set so low that a couple of Republicans who still want to mess up the country look reasonable because their demeanor is pleasant. Sad that we’ve gotten to that point but I do agree, it is a relief to listen to friendly-sounding Repubs.
AdLib 7 days ago
Can’t Duck the Duck!
AdLib 7 days ago
i think “sounding,” is a key word there, Ad.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – She lied in a Fox Interview this week, saying that Coomey had said that she never lied about not sending classified emails. He just said she didn’t lie to the FBI but confirmed that her public statements in declaring she never sent classified documents were not true.
AdLib 7 days ago
Comey…my “o” key is still sticking sometimes…or should I say soometimes?
AdLib 7 days ago
what the hell was she doing on FOX? TRying to convince those that will never vote for her anyway?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey Kes!
AdLib 7 days ago
I am still having a hard time wrapping my head around what is happening in the race for Prez. Trump is obviously out of his league,and could explode at any second.Hillary is flawed but at least she knows how things work.Strange times ahead
Beatlex

7 days ago
Whoot?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey, AdLib and Planeteers! How’s everyone?
kesmarn

7 days ago
KT – She is aggressively going after Repubs who can’t stomach Trump…but lying again isn’t exactly the best way to go about that.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Kes!
Beatlex

7 days ago
I think the the GOP is screwed, at this point. Too late to replace the Big Yam!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey Homie!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey, Beatlex and Homie and Murph!
kesmarn

7 days ago
She should simply not even talk about the e-mails any longer. It’s really over now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Trump is a buffoon.He somehow fooled the primary voters(idiots) but the lime light of a general exposes all his glaring flaws
Beatlex

7 days ago
Anyone thinking that the Trumpster might drop out in the near future?
kesmarn

7 days ago
Beatlex – I think reality has finally caught up with Trump. While he was oonly in the Repub primary, it was a “No Reality Zone” so he could say the most disgusting things and it never impacted him. Now in the GE, reality has returned to the election process, he’s out of the lunatic Repub bubble, and he must be completely bewildered by how he is damaging himself by being as horrible as he was in the GOP Primary.
AdLib 7 days ago
I think Hillary should just cool out for a few days and let Trump continue to destroy himself.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
No Kes,his pride won’t let him
Beatlex

7 days ago
KT,she is doing that for the most part.She has some problems of her own
Beatlex

7 days ago
I was wondering whether he might cook up some sort of “health crisis”…?
kesmarn

7 days ago
At this point Homie, nothing would surprise me. I know the GOP establishment would love that. Question is, who would they replace him with? Ryan? Pence? HA!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Kes – Trump will never drop out, he could never sit home in Triump tower watching another Repub have a shot at winning the election and becoming President. Repubs are stuck with him (I will be posting an article on this next week!).
AdLib 7 days ago
Right! They “got nuthin'”
kesmarn

7 days ago
she does, but nothing like the Big Yam has now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I’m looking forward to the article, AdLib. WOw… when he loses it’s going to be a total ego collapse. It will be a sight to behold.
kesmarn

7 days ago
We Want a Landslide, We Want a Landslide!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Doo you really think Trump would voluntarily step out of the biggest global spotlight he’s ever had? He’ll go down mugging to the camera and howling that the elections were rigged. He’s already laid that groundwork, it’s actually proof he will never drop out.
AdLib 7 days ago
i don’t know, Ad. If he did, he would avoid being labled a “loser.” I think that’s his biggest fear.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I was almost disappointed that he endorsed P. Ryan today. That’s one feud I would have loved to see go on and on…
kesmarn

7 days ago
you just can’t tell, about Trump. I really don’t think he is mentally sound.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
He is already calling the election rigged,setting it up
Beatlex

7 days ago
Ya think, Homie? LOL!
kesmarn

7 days ago
he caved to GOP pressure Homie.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
As I’ll write in my article, if Trump quit, his supporters in the GOP would go mental and absolutely would not vote for a Repub who took his place. The GOP would lose by an even more massive landslide if Trump quit and they replaced him. Then, it anbsolutely would look like the Estab GOP had stolen the nom.
AdLib 7 days ago
I think so!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Now is when the love of country over party will really show itself.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I wonder how his supporters are going to react when he loses… So many of them have (multiple) guns…
kesmarn

7 days ago
Ok….back into the fray…hi to Kes and PPO
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ryan et al have conceded this race to Hillary and will be preparing for 2020 in the usual way, blocking everything in sight
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hey, PPO! And Murph!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Hi, Murph and everybody
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
They are basically cowards, Homie. Most will stick their tails between their legs and slink away, back to the rocks they crawled out from under.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I have said for a while that Trump does not really want to be President,Too much work!! He surprised himself when he won
Beatlex

7 days ago
Hey P!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I hope you’re right, Homie. They toss a lot of bluster around at his rallies. I hope it’s all talk.
kesmarn

7 days ago
KT – Trump is solipsistic, it’s clear that he thinks that as long as he believes something is a certain way, it is that way and his minions will all believe his BS that it is. If he loses, he will claim the election was rigged, he should have won and his supporters should revolt in the streets because there’s been a coup. That’s who Trump is, not a realist who would admit he’s already beaten.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 7 days ago
This election will still be close,but Hillary has the coalition to pull it through.I think she will have Bernie help her implement the ideas she even knows are best.I think she will surprise of some of the “hate Hillary ” gang here.Look at her whole adult life,she started out on people causes.A lot of her as a person has been judged by her role as first lady,and her ties with big money.That how everyone has played the game! Even Barack.No one person, even the President is as powerful as they.Change will come.But it takes time.The SCOTUS is a good start
Beatlex

7 days ago
Trump…would he quit….likely no as a matter of ego and so he could control the news cycles reporting the loss but I would expect him to get less and less engaged if the numbers continue to slide…he never surrenders, he just fades away until he can ride again in a different race.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Yeah, they’re tough, when in a crowd of like “minded,” people. I suspect that’s not the case individually. I mean, hey, they clamor for a strong “leader.”
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
beatle …… I like your synopsis…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph, Trump would never, ever admit any kind of failure, so he’ll divert so it’s someone elses fault
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I want to see if ties between Putin and Trump will be found.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Thx murph
Beatlex

7 days ago
Interesting take, Homie. ‘Cause I have heard some people express concern that the Trumpistas will go off if he loses.
kesmarn

7 days ago
PPO…that he will which is why he will stay in the fray until the end, although with less vigor.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
The debates should be a hoot.
kesmarn

7 days ago
KT..his campaign manager worked for the Russian Sponsored Pres. of Ukraine.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Just think Clven Bundy and his gang that couldn’t shoot straight! I’m not really worried about the Trump Chumps. They’re basically followers, not leaders.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
agree, Murph, he’ll bleat every now and then to keep getting the free media coverage.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Beatlex – I’m fine with folks thinking the election will be close because everyone needs to know it’s important that they go out and vote. But electorally, Trump will be crushed in the biggest landslide against a Repub we’ve seen in a long time (probably Goldwater territory). Hillary will win in the end because despite her negative traits, she comes off as smart and reliable as a leader. Trump has disqualified himself as looking like a President, he is more distrusted as each day passes and seems more mentally unstable. But GOTV is critical!
AdLib 7 days ago
Damn Murph! Why does that not surprise me? I heard that TRump can’t really borrow money in America any longer and gets loans from people in Russia. Any truth to that?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Spot on, Adlib. GOTV!!!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
anyone watching the Rio opening?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Trump is mentally ill.He will be able to justify anything that happens,he has already been saying the election is rigged. He is already setting up his escape.And he will really believe it!
Beatlex

7 days ago
No. Actually TV is off at the moment…
kesmarn

7 days ago
KT….the Russian loan thing is exaggerated. His companies have borrowed from an international pool which includes russian banks…the thing is his U.S. credit is not good.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Can’t get interested P.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT, I hear you.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
We’ve the Political Olympics going on now. Only one country playing though.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph, so much for his self-funding campaign and all the ‘Charity’ money.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I’ve heard that the athletes are complaining that the Olympic living quarters are really sub-standard and dirty…
kesmarn

7 days ago
I hear the water isn’t very good either, Homie.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I am glad that there are others here uninterested in RIO. Frankly it is long past the time when another way is found to do the Olympics. I am tired of poor people losing what little they have to build venues that are used for 2 weeks and then rot….and I am sick of the pretense of the athletes as non-professional.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph, actually I’m not surprised. Would YOU do any work for him, or lend him money? I certaiinly wouldn’t!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – Agreed on trump for the most part but doubt he would fade away if he keeps looking like a certain loser. He craves the spotlight and no doubt will think that his hail mary will be coming up with BS even more wild than before. Trump will go out engulfed in flames then will be the most horrible Presidential loser in the history of the nation, not urging his moronic followers to protest and act out against government but getting as close to encouraging an armed revolt as he can go without saying it. And while a very few might follow his urgings, they would quickly become roommates with the Cliven Bundy gang in prison. Where such loons should be!
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO…the money he “gave” to his primary campaign was in fact a loan that he got interest back on…and he has given nothing to his general election.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad, are there actually ANY Vets for Trump after last week?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
On the other hand, his campaign did raise $80 million last month…
kesmarn

7 days ago
Ad, I think bombings could be a possibility, but a slim one.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO….Trump appears to be good to his inner circle but to few others.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
There certainly shouldn’t be P. I hope he lost the majority of active military as well.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Here’s hoping, KT, but still quite a few weeks to the day.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad…that could well be…but in his history, like when he pressed the Birther idea, when it unravels he just walks away, takes a time out and then pops up elsewhere pretending the earlier mess never happened.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – I’m with you on that, now that people see how the Olympics, FIFA, etc. just exploit countries like rubes at the circus, to get them to spend massive sums of money that bury them in debt, just so they have the spectacle that will earn them massive income from tv and merchandising, I’ve become soured on the Olympics. My daughter likes them, we’ll watch some of them but it’s not like it used to be for me.
AdLib 7 days ago
Same here, Ad. Will be selective.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
The poor really do seem to get hit hard by Olympic projects — and get very little benefit.
kesmarn

7 days ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – I think Trump has now lost a huge amount of vets. Normally, they vote heavily for the Repub (and those in the military do) but after he’s been schooled by The Khan Academy, I think he ends up with a much smaller majority if much of one.
AdLib 7 days ago
Here is an image of Rio with rich and poor side by side made worse by the Olympics where venues being built pushed the poor out. https://www.google.com/search?q=rio+poverty+wealth+side+by+side&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjShZj15avOAhWIa5oKHXKwBZ0Q_AUICCgB&biw=1155&bih=545#imgrc=Mevohzqsfyqd6M%3A
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
out of all the great Greek contributions to the world, we should be working on a better democracy!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Nope…Not working.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
United States presidential elections have been getting stranger by the cycle.But this one is off the meter.Trump has exposed the under belly of republican governing for the lies it has told.ALL voters know things are wrong.Lets hope good comes of this
Beatlex

7 days ago
Trying this.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I like the Greek idea of voting on the one politician who’s been most destructive to democracy every 10 years and sending him into exile.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Ah there ya go.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – Violence is possible, indeed. And a faux uprising like the Bundys could happen but there won’t be any massive revolt…especially because I am confident Obama would act very swiftly against anything like that and scare the hell out of any other Trump supporters thinking about going anti-American.-
AdLib 7 days ago
I’m with ya, Homie! Hmmm, were to send them?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
WOw…talk about a WALL, Murph! That’s sad.
kesmarn

7 days ago
I agree. I just hope there aren’t any aspiring Tim McVeighs in that bunch!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
There is definitely a percentage of highly strung people in this country now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Good question, Homie. Some melting ice floe in the Arctic maybe…
kesmarn

7 days ago
Murph – He’s walked away from the Birther crap because it was a complete failure and made him look like a wingnut. But…his people have been bringing it back this week! He has continued it in a worse way, remember how he tried to question if Obama was working for Islam and terrorists? So he never really did leave it behind him.
AdLib 7 days ago
Excellent idea. They can share it with the poor Polar bears.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Vets and Trumps. One of my involvements is with the about to be opened POW/MIA Museum at Jefferson Barracks in St. Louis. The Board, for whom I am an adviser, was wildly for Trump by a large majority three months ago. They met two nights ago and the Trump buttons are gone, so are the bumper stickers…..his treatment of the Gold Star Kahns has soured his attractiveness for good.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
And if they complain, we can remind them that climate change is a hoax…
kesmarn

7 days ago
Ad,that is why the President is going after him so hard,it is personal now
Beatlex

7 days ago
KT – You nailed it! Working on a better democracy is one charge that Hillary has accepted and needs to stay true to.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad….I don’t say that when he walked away it was forever but rather when he loses, in whatever theater, he slinks off stage and out of the spotlight until the next opportunity comes along.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph, in America, regardless of political persuasion, that is a big no no. As it should be.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph, if Trump had made it his goal to alienate military people he couldn’t have been more successful.
kesmarn

7 days ago
We’ll help her do that, Ad!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Trump does not have a clue that he is hurtng people,he doesn’t care
Beatlex

7 days ago
One of the GOP running for an office here in Mo in my county boasted of his Trump connections…..a vet…..he lost in a landslide and he was favored right up to the last two weeks.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – That photo is very upsetting. It is part of what is most wrong with the world today, the disrespect and marginalization oof the poor by the wealthy. The Olympics are run by elitists who don’t give a shit about the poor people in the countries they force to bury themselves in debt.
AdLib 7 days ago
Time for me to sign off now, gang. Early day tomorrow. The Dear Old Dad’s 94th birthday. Have a wonderful weekend, all.
kesmarn

7 days ago
What Trump did shows that if he ever became CIC, he would not care about getting our troops killed. He would use them recklessly and without good reason.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
94? Whew! Go dad! Take care Homie!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…..and events like the Olympics so worsen the lives of the poor….there was a demonstration in RIO today about this broken up by riot police very harshly.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Kes…thanks for being with us for a while….nice to “see” you….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
G’night!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Best to dad….at 94!!!!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Will pass your good wishes along to the Dad.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Murph – That’s very encouraging to hear that Trump Repub in MO lost after leading! The MSM is pressing this meme that Trump can erase from the public’s mind who he is and what he’s done, by putting on a toned down act but what’s done is done. He might come back a little but no one is going to see him as a different man.
AdLib 7 days ago
i’ll be extremly fortunate to see 84, and by then, I’m not sure I’d want to.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I’ve said this before, Trump just doesn’t have the gravity that the job requires. President Obama has said the same thing.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
And Ad….there is so much film….so much sound….from him, and about him…..that he cannot erase who he is as a campaigner and then we have his entire history in business….very little has yet to be paraded before the public but it will be.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Could you see Trump in the white house situation room, during a national or international crisis?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT….my rule is this: when I am ready for a nursing home, I don’t want to be compos mentis…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Trump can’t act presidential. Trump can not be anybody other than who we’ve seen so much of.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Exactly, the Olympics have become an elitist event that is completely oblivious to how they harm countries and the poor. They try to sell this crap by saying, “Forget about all that bad stuff, the Olympics make us see the world as woonderful, just join in and enjoy it!” But it’s BS. They should incorporate some global social responsibility, make much less profit and donate some of the billions they’ve made to helping the neediest in the nations they get to invest soo much in hosting THEIR event.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT – Trump doesn’t have the gravity, the sanity or the valium he would need to be President.
AdLib 7 days ago
Same here Murph. I watch my 87 year old mother, and it’s sad. She’s still vital and gets along OK, but she can barely see, she’s a diabetic, she has near constant hip pain, she can’t hear worth a damn, That’s rough.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…Olympics…agreed. What I favor is a permanent venue for both the summer and winter events….politically very hard to bring off but it would provide an environment in which the worst abuses could be avoided.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
There’s not that much Vallium in the world Ad. Or Xanax or whatever mood altering drug you can think of.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT…I visit two nursing homes regularly….I am going to do everything I can to die at home in my own bed even if it means dying a bit earlier.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Now you’re describing what will actually happen. No matter how much the Repubs force Donald to tone it down, Hillary will be running ads nonstop showing clips of Trump being obnoxious, out of control and hateful. He can’t escape or white wash over it as much as Repubs and the MSM hopes. He is fully coooked now, he can never escape all the horribleness he’s spewed, he’s done.
AdLib 7 days ago
That’s exactly what my mom says. I don’t blame her a bit.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…that is what I predict as well.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
i’ve always prefered the quality of life to the quantity of it.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
BRB
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – Sorry to hear what your mother has to deal with, I know you’re out there at times to help her and I know that has to mean so much to her.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yep, stick a fork in him.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I don’t look at the Olympics as I did 30 yrs ago,it has become another corporate nightmare,and drugs have one wondering about all performances
Beatlex

7 days ago
Yeah, I was there from mid April to June 2nd. she was very happy. I gotta say, she’s a real trooper.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – How about just hosting them in Greece permanently, the IOC puts oout the money for building the infrastructure which would help that struggling economy then they promise to contribute a slice of profits to the poor in countries that participate.
AdLib 7 days ago
My brother just built a house about 100 yds down the road from her. So he’ll be there from now on. Thank goodness.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad,sounds good! take the big bucks out! Money corrupts
Beatlex

7 days ago
KT,is is good she has the care she needs
Beatlex

7 days ago
Ad…that is my thought too….Greece would work….and Finland for the Winter Olympics…another economy that would benefit.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
For sure B. She has some folks that really care about her.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Very cool, KT. That’s one of the things that you don’t think about when you’re younger, how you’ll beed to take care of your parents when you’re older. My grandparents died relatively young, my parents didn’t have to take care of them. But modern medicine helps people live longer and our messed up society doesn’t provide enough for the elderly so this generation has to face taking care of parents who live longer but suffer physical and mental issues.
AdLib 7 days ago
Well….gang…have an early morning. This was fun. Next Week…same TrumpTime, same TrumpChannel!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – But the IOC rakes in such huge mountains of money by getting nations to bid on the Olympics, those greedy SOBs would never do the right thing.
AdLib 7 days ago
See you then, Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
night Murph,cheers!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Ad…the IOC needs to be completely overhauled…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
It’s sad. My daughter works as a caregiver to the elderly. She says a big problem is there are som many places that cut corners and the patients don’t get the care they need or should have.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
And with that….adieu!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Take care, Murph.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT.and some don’t have family to see them.Must be lonely
Beatlex

7 days ago
i really love to help my mom, and have spent almost a year out of the last year and half doing so. But she lives 800 miles from me, and after a few months at a time, there’s no place like home. That’s why I’m so glad my brother will be living so close by to her.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I bet B. Shades of Elenor Rigby!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – My Great Aunt, who was like a grandmother to me, got Alzheimer’s and had to be put in a nursing home. I was in my late 20’s then and helped take care of her up till that point. The nursing home was typical and a depressing, awful place. Patients not treated well, her dentures were just missing one day, she’d have bruises on her and she couldn’t remember how she got them. People wandering around like zombies, mumbling to themselves or talking to imaginary people. Not where I could ever imagine going to…ever. Or putting my mother in such a place. But the alternative of home care is so difficult and expensive. But that’s where government shoould help out.
AdLib 7 days ago
Just wait ’till us boomers get to that stage guys,the system won’t take it
Beatlex

7 days ago
I couldn’t agree more Ad. I think it’s a damned shame that this happens, and in so many places.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
And could you imagine what the state of healthcare for elderly and the poor would be if Trump had a real shoot at winning the WH? This country would be like an post-apocolyptic sci-fi movie!
AdLib 7 days ago
i’ll go out like Hunter Thompson before I subject myself to an end in a nursing home.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex – I know, we have to figure out the alternatives for ourselves. That’s no life, living in those death houses.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT.ME TOO! I will not live that way,ever!
Beatlex

7 days ago
I shudder to think. He’s already promised to do away with the ACA!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – I know what you mean. Haven’t really given it a lot of thought yet but no way I will ever let myself end up there.]
AdLib 7 days ago
We are making assisted suicide law here in Canada,of course there is a fight about it,but our supreme court said the government had to
Beatlex

7 days ago
i don’t have any religious objections to choosing my own exit. I hope I never have to, I enjoy life, very much, but If I’m too feeble and sick, then it’s time to go!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Yep, and he wants to slash taxes so there will be no money for any other social safety net programs. Poverty will skyrocket and desperation and suffering will too. It will turn many parts of the nation into hell on earth.
AdLib 7 days ago
People will literally die if Trump gets in. Our fellow Americans.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
It’s legal here in Cali to have medically assisted suicides. Not an advertisement, just sayin’.
AdLib 7 days ago
Glad to hear that, Ad!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
There used to be a place in LA, a crematorium called Colonel Cinders! I kid you not!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
LOL KT
Beatlex

7 days ago
KT – I am annoyed by the exaggerations of people saying that if the oother party wins an election, there will be riots in the streets but if Trump could have become President, after his and the GOP policies had set in, the suffering of the poor and previously middle class would become so horrible, I woould expect their to be uprisings.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT – Can you choose too be Extra Crispy?
AdLib 7 days ago
there
AdLib 7 days ago
LOL! Good question.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
My damn “o” key is going nuts tonight!!!
AdLib 7 days ago
I would certainly expect that Ad. People do have limits.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Did you hear that Trump is now calling Hillary “unhinged” and “unbalanced”. He left out, “I’m rubber and you’re glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you!”
AdLib 7 days ago
Wiki leaks is saying they have more stuff on Clinton
Beatlex

7 days ago
Oh boy! I think Trump is really getting desperate at this point. His shade throwin ability is slipping.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I don’t think anyone, even those whoo don’t like Hillary, could be coonvinced that she is unhinged or unbalanced. Trump’s making those statements only make him look more desperate and more of a loser.
AdLib 7 days ago
fuck Wikileaks.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT,but the media love it
Beatlex

7 days ago
Oh yeah B. Gotta grap those ratings!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Name of the game KT!
Beatlex

7 days ago
oh yeah. There is that.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I am glad that prick Ailes is exposed
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex – Yep but Wikileaks threw out their worst before the convention. There really isn’t anything of impact left, they’ve kind of quietly acknowledged that. So all they have os to keep BSing about what juicy secrets they still have yet to reveal. There is nothing they could release that would be worse than Trump starting nuclear wars and attacking the parents of heroes who sacrificed their lives.
AdLib 7 days ago
jOn Stweart and Steven Colbert did a great bit about Ailles leaving FOX! It was very funny.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I see absolutely no good coming from making it harder for Hillary to win. The alternative is simply too grave a prospect.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
who’s to say Putin himself hasn’t contributed to Wikileaks? It would not surprise me at all.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Yes, you posted it, didn’t you? Saw it after someone here on Vox said Stewart was coming back on Colbert and started recording Colbert again. Don’t like or watch the rest of his show, all the celebrity nuzzling and corny general public jokes are a bit lame for me but he and Stewart had a great couple of weeks getting back to what they do best.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yeah Ad. It’s here somewhere.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
BTW, did you know Stewart is coming back with an animated news satire on HBO? It’s supposed to be topical and feature him on it.
AdLib 7 days ago
Can you imagine how they must have dreamed and hoped for the day Ailles got the sack?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I heard that. Unfortunately I don’t subscribe to HBO, or any other premium channel. There’s always youtube though.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – I don’t believe Wikileaks has anything left to hang on Hillary. Assange is just a hateful, bitter man now who wishes he could hurt her and the US. Sorry, ain’t gonna happen.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT – I have no doubt, all the best segments will be on YouTube.
AdLib 7 days ago
I agree.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Really, what does ASSange care if we go down the tubes.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – With all the lunacy oof Trump, Ailes being removed from Fox was soo oovershadowed but it’s really huge! And Fox News could really founder now!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad,yes,I don’t think it will hurt her much.Trump is so weak
Beatlex

7 days ago
Assange is a snake
Beatlex

7 days ago
Oh, that would be great. Could you see O’Reilly or Hannity doing job interviews?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Yes he is B.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT,Trump would like him,if he knew who he was!
Beatlex

7 days ago
LOL! Yep. Two sleaze in a pod!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Assange would love it but it’s a fantasy he’ll never be able to realize. I said it back in the primaries, it’s become self-apparent now, Trump is the worst candidate the Repubs could have, he will lose massively and The Senate and maybe even the House could turn Dem. Hillary will have no trouble filling the SCOTUS seats and that will be the biggest course change for this country. The SCOTUS back oon the side of the people? Goodbye Citizens United, hello campaign finance reform. Goodbye gerrymandering, hello Civil RIghts election law.
AdLib 7 days ago
oh, Gerrymandering has got to go. This isn’t the 18th century any longer.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I love seeing the President calmly destroying Trump.Trump started the birther thing,and the President is serving revenge cold
Beatlex

7 days ago
Wouldn’t it be great if president Hillary nominated Michelle Obama to the SC? Wheweee!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Imagine how Fox News will fall apart after Trump is crushed? They will go nuts and tear themselves apart! And if Dems win the Senate and Hillary puts multiple SCOTUS judges in place??? Fox News will turn into a mental asylum…officially that is.
AdLib 7 days ago
sure is B, and all he has to do is be truthful.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Any chance Michelle Obama could run for President after Hillary???
AdLib 7 days ago
As the lyric goes Ad”All Things Must Pass” even Fox
Beatlex

7 days ago
That would be great. she is a class act, all the way.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I don’t think she wants it,she is not like that IMO
Beatlex

7 days ago
we don’t want a “pin up girl,” as our first lady!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Can you see Obama as the 1st Dude?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex – Obama is so free right now to tear Trump apart, for many reasons. At the end oof his Presidency, because Trump truly is unfit to be President and with Repubs refusing to endorse him or attend his convention, he’s got all kinds of cover. Repubs tried to attack Obama for dissing Trump but it went nowhere…because Trump’s horribleness kept drowning them out.
AdLib 7 days ago
Beatlex – George knew what he was talking about!
AdLib 7 days ago
We are definitely witnessing history in the making, for sure. We live in interesting times.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
But Michelle has such wonderful qualities, she’s brilliant, a great speaker, compassionate…and having Obama there to consult would make things even better.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad,He was talking about the Beatles,but it is simple and true
Beatlex

7 days ago
The President has years more to make a difference,and I’m sure he will
Beatlex

7 days ago
michelle is not only very smart, but she is also tough. I bet Barack doesn’t give her too much shit. Generally speaking, black women are bold!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – We’re seeing the end result of the Repubs dumbing down and angering up their party of older white people. It was leading here for some time, the loons on the far right have been trying for a loong time to get one of their candidates nominate and kept hating on the GOP for forcing McCain then Romney on them. Eventually, they would get their candidate and that’s what had to happen so they could be thoroughly defeated and weakened. This had to happen, it is how the GOP can begin to pull back from the insanity they’ve sewn to get their people out to vote and maybe return to being a party that has relevance. But without their haters, they have little left to get themselves elected.
AdLib 7 days ago
Well guys, time for me to fade away….for now! Have a great weekend!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Me too KT Goodnight,it was fun,you guys are smart!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex – Yes, I know he was but as with any situation that’s tough to get through, that kind of acceptance is so important.
AdLib 7 days ago
Night KT! Seeya Beatlex!
AdLib 7 days ago
oK, one more thing. The rubes have been voting republican probably their whole adult lives, election after election, now they realize they’ve been screwed, but they blame the dems. As usual.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – They’re still rubes, they just now discovered the BS used to manipulate them was just that. But again, they are easily manipulated to hate on Dems while it’s been the Repubs oppressing them.
AdLib 7 days ago
Anyway, night all!
AdLib 7 days ago

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