Vox Populi – 6-24-2016

Hey Ad,lot to unravel here tonite!

Beatlex

How about this AD? I am beginning to think that there are a lot of connections with what has been going on worldwide.When the influx of refugees began,a lot jumped right in to save people in danger.The aftermath is not going so well in a lot of the countries that opened their doors. A criminal element,rapists.Which dovetails with the rantings of one Donald J Trump. There are growing numbers of people who are sorry they were so quick to help.These are scary times for democracies.Socially and financially”more to come add please)

Beatlex

Something is different Ad,people have had it it seems.This may be what is needed,a change of the status quo,WORLDWIDE

Beatlex

That is why these knds of votes are dangerous to leave to the people.What do we elect leaders for? TO lead of course

Beatlex

But he has great suites at his golf course! He showed he was a fool right there AD!

Beatlex

He seems clueless Ad.He has no political smarts,only a firm belief in himself! There is mania named for that I’m sure

Beatlex

Narcissist,countless more

Beatlex

He is what a lot of people call”A Piece Of Work” Ad,LOL

Beatlex

Touche!,work at figuring how to rip people off it seems Ad.Or gets lawyers to do it

Beatlex

His evil mind at work Ad.His Dad probabl showed him

Beatlex

He was more honest from the litle I have read.But he forgot to teach him morals

Beatlex

I don

Beatlex

I don’t think Warren should be VP.She can do more in the senate,and she has a lot of god years left

Beatlex

++Good++ no “god” here lol

Beatlex

Why would Warren want it Ad? i glenn

Beatlex

Hey peoploids!

KillgoreTrout

What’s up Ad?

KillgoreTrout

10,000 peoploids KT!

Beatlex

Great catch B!

KillgoreTrout

She has a high profile Ad! Maybe a cabinet post.VP’s don’t much

Beatlex

I didn’t think EW would want the job, but I think she does. I would rather her stay in the Senate and have Hillar see

KillgoreTrout

Hey KT! read my post at the start and tell me what you think please

Beatlex

That was weird.

KillgoreTrout

hi all, had trouble connecting, Ad

pinkpantheroz

OZ!

Beatlex

I think you’re right B, to an extent. I think it’s mostly here in the US that I see it. I don’t follow world news as much as I should.

KillgoreTrout

KT Thx for reading.It is a theory of mine

Beatlex

Ad, clicked on ‘Join the chatroom’ got little clock ‘connecting’…… 30 secs later, still connecting. closed out, came back in and all is well.

pinkpantheroz

I would rather see a more balanced ticket, gender wise. I know that may sound trivial, but I think two women on the same ticket might turn off some voters. Of course, I could be wrong. I think she should pick the most qualified for the job. It’s a stepping stone for whomever gets it. I’d rather see EW stay where she is. We need more EW

KillgoreTrout

New sec state for Elizabeth?

pinkpantheroz

My computer is getting weird. I can’t finish a frickin comment without a jum in the page.

KillgoreTrout

I’ll try this again!

KillgoreTrout

Ah, Fool Brittania! the end of any feeble attempt at maintaining their arrogance thaqt they’re the dog’s Bollocks of countries. Hooray!

pinkpantheroz

I refreshed the page. That may have done it.

KillgoreTrout

Good evening, all. Beatlex, your analysis of the global interconnections is spot on. I think that some people are rightfully angry, but I think the anger is misplaced in a lot of cases. The refugee problem stems from the countries from which the refugees come. I know that’s obvious. However, somehow or another, the world needs to do something about those countries. I don’t know what the answer is; I think the institutions that we have relied on have failed the “little people” big time. For example, what is the UN doing? What is NATO doing? For that matter, what is the EU doing to help stem the tide of refugees? Perhaps I am ignorant of the facts as to what those institutions are doing; but we are definitely in a global mess, and anger, hate, and division don’t seem to be working. I just wish there was another answer(s). I’m just not smart enough to figure it out.

glenn

Hey glenn! That’s quite the comment!

KillgoreTrout

very, very well said, glenn.

pinkpantheroz

How about that sit-in? Eh?

KillgoreTrout

Big decisions like remaining in the EU should never be put in the hands of average voters.Leaders are elected to deal with big things like this.And look what happenened? The fear campaigns and bogus information ruled the day

Beatlex

Thanks, PPO.

glenn

…Spain grabbing back Gibraltar, oohh, lots of good stuff!

pinkpantheroz

The people in the UK aren’t smarter, they just speak better English!

KillgoreTrout

Christ you know it ain’t easy! Sorry, the mention of Gibralter made me think of the Ballad of John and Yoko!

KillgoreTrout

KT,You know how hard it can be

Beatlex

The way things are going…

pinkpantheroz

There tryin to crucify me!

KillgoreTrout

Beatlex–and the same thing could happen here in the US. We have such fear mongering and bogus information going on; it scares me half to death that trump will actually be elected. Conservatives are gloating about the results of Brexit, yet people are saying, “Oh, hold on a sec. I didn’t think this would happen.” Well, they’ve “taken their country back”. Now what the hell are they going to do with it?

glenn

They’re!

KillgoreTrout

Yes glenn,that is what I am trying to say

Beatlex

Ad–I agree completely. So, the U

glenn

A line that harkens back to Lennon’s comment that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. That Lennon, he was a sly one! Bless his soul!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I agree completely. They say the same thing with the internal conflicts between Sunnis and Shiites. They haven’t been dealing with that for centuries; yet expect the US to come in and “make it all better”; yet complain about what we are doing. It’s an endless cycle.

glenn

glenn, I don’t see why conservatives are gloating, It was a Conservative decision to have the friggin’ referendum in the first place to satisfy the equivalent of the Tea Party in the UK. It’s a disaster for the 1%, with gazillions wiped off the Stock Exchanges, the Pound Sterling devalued. they should really be shitting themselves.

pinkpantheroz

Beatlex–I know.

glenn

Does anyone but me think that Bernie may have helped inspire the dems to stage their sit-in?

KillgoreTrout

Lennon had a way with words that was different than other wordsmiths.”Time wounds all heels” to his haters,HA!

Beatlex

PPO–they’re gloating because they “defeated” the “elites”. You know, all those people who use facts and figures to tell you what’s going to happen, and when it happens, the conservatives “won.” Circular “logic” at its finest.

glenn

Wage Peace, Not War!

KillgoreTrout

Of course, Don the Con had to put in a gloat hinmself:

pinkpantheroz

KT–Don’t know about Bernie; I think John Lewis finally had enough, and wanted to do something different. I thought the sit-in was fantastic! Do you think they’ll continue it after the recess?

glenn

Trump is toast!

KillgoreTrout

Asked about the uncertainty of the pound, Trump responded by pointing out how he stood to benefit from a weaker currency. It’s not the first time Trump has boasted about profiting off a weak economy. “If the pound goes down, more people are coming to Turnberry, frankly,” he said at a press conference. “For traveling and for other things, I think it very well could turn out to be positive.”

pinkpantheroz

hey guys

Harleigh

Hey! Chump wants you to know he has great suites at his golf resort! What a Maroon

Beatlex

Harleigh!

pinkpantheroz

Oh, no doubt, but I saw him in a clip today and casually mentioned November. I think Sanders has ignited a spark that may just embolden more dems.

KillgoreTrout

PPO–You’re right it’s not the first time trump has bragged about profiting off financial disasters. He also bragged that the crashing real estate market was good for him.

glenn

Hey Harleigh!

glenn

Hey Harleigh! How’s it hangin?

KillgoreTrout

AD-*****

Beatlex

the answer is always…”to the left, to the left.”

KillgoreTrout

I see the end of Empire world wide. the Roman, Ottoman, French, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, British, USSR and now the US Empire are all going or gone. Hooray

pinkpantheroz

I don’t have much of an understanding of the EU/brexit

Harleigh

Apologies folks. I was reading Frank Zappa’s biography earlier today, and have been corrupted!

KillgoreTrout

it’s an economic/nationalist issue.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I surely hope you’re right. I do wish we actually had a “liberal media” that would quit reporting trump’s and his supporters every breath and would start reporting some positive news over and over again, the same way they report the negative shit over and over again. I’m with Bernie; I’m sick to death of hearing about Hillary’s emails. No matter how many times it is explained that she is not under criminal investigation, no matter how many times it is explained that she did nothing illegal; no matter how many times it is explained that she did not kill Vince Foster, no matter how many times it is explained that…..(fill in the conservative talking point blank), we keep hearing the same things over and over again from conservatives, and from the orange one himself.

glenn

harleigh, basically it means that, in 2 years time, when the final exit document is signed, the UK will no longer be subject to rules and regs and laws from Brussels. BUT, they also won’t have any privileges within the EU.

pinkpantheroz

A good summation P!

KillgoreTrout

PPO is that good or bad and for who??

Harleigh

it’s not too good for the Untied Kingdom as a whole.

KillgoreTrout

++Serious Question++ Has a constitutional conferance ever taken place? It seems to me that to fix the biggest problem(campaign finance) would take a ammendment to enshrine it.Am I wrongÉ and why don`t progressives fight for thatÉ

Beatlex

H, IMO it’s bad for both. The UK will have to have a border with Ireland and extra Customs and Immigration points. Brits will have to use passports to go onto mainland Europe. All sorts of legal and social probs as well. F’r instance, many Brits have retired to Spain because it is so much cheaper there and their pensions go further. What happens to them now?

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh–it also means that there won’t be any more “open borders” between UK and the rest of Europe. The UK kept their own currency even though it joined the EU, but now their currency is at it’s lowest point that it’s been in 31 years. Also, it means that inter-EU trading will be different; the UK will no longer be a favored trading partner within the EU. As to what that actually means financially, no one knows, because no country has walked away from the EU before.

glenn

glenn LOL I love going to reichwingdom at Newsmax and the hill. Now I am banned for commenting on Newsmax.LOL

Harleigh

That’s because you’re a hippie/commie/pinko/liberal/progressive!

KillgoreTrout

true, glenn, and I’m sure there are other countries looking at how the UK will get on, to see if they should follow

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh–I cannot understand why you would be banned from Newsmax. Your comments are always so respectful to conservatives.

glenn

glenn, ( snigger!)

pinkpantheroz

Testing, testing!

KillgoreTrout

A OK, KT

pinkpantheroz

No answer to my above QÉ

Beatlex

good. I thought the internet gremilns were afoot.

KillgoreTrout

who me B?

KillgoreTrout

anyone

Beatlex

muhahaha…. the new Harleigh from another ID will return, same as the 7 times HP banned me!!

Harleigh

what was the question, again?

KillgoreTrout

read just above KT

Beatlex

Being banned from those sites is a badge of honor!

KillgoreTrout

I was hoping you wouldn’t ask me that, B. My machine is acting strange tonight.

KillgoreTrout

PPO–Several of them are already talking about it; I know France is one. I also read today that many giant corporations are planning on leaving the UK to go to Germany. Companies like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and others. Not looking good for the British financial markets.

glenn

Maybe I shouldn’t have dropped those two hits of acid, earlier! Just kidding!

KillgoreTrout

Beatlex I don’t think a constitutional amendment will ever happen in this climate.

Harleigh

I don’t have any acid.

KillgoreTrout

KT, maybe clear your history

pinkpantheroz

I did that a minute ago. I think it worked. For now.

KillgoreTrout

I do that pretty regularly P.

KillgoreTrout

Thanks.

KillgoreTrout

LOL KT… bet it’s been a long while!

Harleigh

how about that revolution in congress, eh?

KillgoreTrout

Yeah Ad,but when there is a right court,it will change again.No

Beatlex

1989 Harleigh! Goony bird blotters. Copped at a California Grateful Dead show.

KillgoreTrout

KT–aren’t we still waiting to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment? The SCOTUS is the way to go.

glenn

I see that Don the Con is so bankrupt, he even has to have someone else create his controversial blurts! “A former Donald Trump adviser said the handling of Trump’s racially-based attacks against a federal judge was the straw that broke the camel’s back on Corey Lewandowski.

pinkpantheroz

Be back my keyboard is showing És instead of question marks-reboot

Beatlex

no doubt glenn.

KillgoreTrout

E, did you say?

KillgoreTrout

For Lewandowsky, that was a pretty thick straw.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–Yup, Farage and Johnson should own every bit of the financial ruin they have brought on the UK.

glenn

London Calling?

KillgoreTrout

PPO and KT–I see people are now calling CNN the “Corey News Network”. LOL!

glenn

I think there are a lot of Brits looking at each other and saying ‘WTF have we just done?’

pinkpantheroz

glenn

pinkpantheroz

going backwards in time never really works out.

KillgoreTrout

PPO–that’s the take I’m getting with reading some of the tweets and news. Some of the people didn’t even know what the EU was.

glenn

Just when you think that CNN can’t sink any lower. Too bad Anderson Cooper doesn’t leave them. He’s better than his bosses.

KillgoreTrout

He certainly doesn’t need the money!

KillgoreTrout

you all saw drumps yyyuuugggggeeee gaff in Scotland at his new golf course right??

Harleigh

Hmmmm! That reminds me of another group of people!

KillgoreTrout

KT–I love the way AC held the attorney general’s feet to the fire when he wouldn’t let her off the hook with her “love of gays” when months earlier she was saying they were a “threat to Floridians.”

glenn

There are good people in the media and politics.But most of the good ones don’t whore themselves out

Beatlex

Harleigh–yea, I understand the suites are great!

glenn

yes, harleigh, we mentioned it earlier about his making profit from Brexit, if that’s what you mean

pinkpantheroz

Yeah, I think Cooper is one of the good folks.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–LOL!

glenn

Cooper has skin in the game. But he was on the right side.

KillgoreTrout

Me too Ad. There so few who actually do that. Maddow and Lawrence come to mind.

KillgoreTrout

Trump congratulated Scotland for getting their country back by getting out of the EU!! They were furious at him and his stupidity. they voted 52% to 48% to stay in EU.

Harleigh

Oh, missed that one, H! Oh Boy!!

pinkpantheroz

Trump’s blowhardedness is being realized the world over.

KillgoreTrout

Finally!

KillgoreTrout

I think the media and entertainment conglomerates have spun a web of bullshit for all of us to consume.We have no power or real choice,new ideas are needed

Beatlex

Ad,I agree,it was like an American fear fest

Beatlex

ah B, there were some congress critters that proved you wrong recently. I don’t know what’s taken them so long.

KillgoreTrout

trump has less of a clue than me and that is fuckin scary such a dumbass be worse than Bush and run.

Harleigh

KT-Who?

Beatlex

True, Ad. Now Scotland may cecede from England and Wales, and a United Ireland is possible, but unlikely. NI voted to Remain inn the EU, where the Republic still is.

pinkpantheroz

CAnny lot, the Scots!

pinkpantheroz

A whole bunch of dem representatives who stood up to the GOP by staging a sit-in on the floor of the house. They shamed the GOP…big time.

KillgoreTrout

i’m talking about congress critters here. That’s astonishing.

KillgoreTrout

Yes KT! That is not over I think,John Lewis doesn’t F around

Beatlex

Sorry AD, my numbers came from a Newsmax story that always stokes more hate than accuracy! LOL

Harleigh

no he doesn’t B. He’s a principled man who doesn’t take shit lightly.

KillgoreTrout

KT–Love those congress critters who sat down to stand up for the American people. John Lewis gets it done!

glenn

He’s also a very wise man.

KillgoreTrout

Ad, that’s n ot necessarily so. The industrial North of England voted overwhelmingly to Exit.

pinkpantheroz

Although he didn’t get the vote on the floor yet; hope they keep pursuing it after the break.

glenn

KT,that was awesome! I stayed up really late for that

Beatlex

He sure did. He had a lot of help though. That was amazing. The GOP is being forced to do their job. Isn’t it pathetic that this is what it takes?

KillgoreTrout

glenn, are you talking about the Terrorist John Lewis, or another one?????

pinkpantheroz

KT,It shows how broken things are

Beatlex

I caught most of it today in video clips. It was truly history in the making.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–exactly. Why anyone thinks repubs are good for the economy is another mystery of our times. As I said before, if we really had a liberal media, then every time repubs said something about the economy, the reporter would come back with the figures about how a Dem president is always better for the economy than a repub one. Always!

glenn

As it was intended to do B.

KillgoreTrout

Yes KT!!

Beatlex

PPO–the “terrorist” John Lewis. I just love that man! And to think, he’s a GA rep. Not my district, but at least he’s representing some of us in GA!

glenn

PPO – LMAO back in the day Lewis was ‘uppity!’!

Harleigh

LOL Harleigh. And a lot worse than that!

KillgoreTrout

Harleigh–back in the day, John Lewis had his head bashed in–literally–for being so uppity!

glenn

Ad, that’s a bit of a worry, but maybe the Conservatives will face a huge backlash at the next election

pinkpantheroz

Yeah, in Selma Alabama.

KillgoreTrout

glenn and Harleigh, maybe the word ‘terrorist’ is now being used instead of ‘uppity’

pinkpantheroz

Really Ad,sooner or later we will win,chip away

Beatlex

Let’s keep up the mantra, Ad – THE NRA IS ARMING TERRORISTS

pinkpantheroz

The NRA owned congress critters are the terrorist sympathizers. They sell guns to terrorists, and want to keep on doing so.

KillgoreTrout

Lewis was an icon and kept on even after MLK was gone. He walked that scary walk, and is quite a man.

Harleigh

I actually met him, about 20 years ago.

KillgoreTrout

A genuine Hero, H. WOW, KT that’s awesome.

pinkpantheroz

I remember barack and michelle doing terrorist fist bumps!! bwahahahaha

Harleigh

PPO–I’m with Ad. How dare the NRA call a man who has devoted his life to fighting for civil rights for ALL people a terrorist? I really believe the tide is changing, finally, though. The group, Moms Demand Action is becoming more visible; Dems are finally getting a spine, so I think things are looking up–at least as far as gun laws go. We’ll never get to the point the Aussies are; but at least we’re getting some movement.

glenn

I was fortunate enough to have a doctor who is good friends with Mr. Lewis. She invited me to a seminar he was attending in Columbus. It was a brief meeting, but I got say a few words and shake his hand.

KillgoreTrout

It truly was Ad. the man has real gravity.

KillgoreTrout

Better later than never…Tammy Duckworth is wearing me out…..

MurphTheSurf3

Harleigh–and MIchelle and Barrack are still supporting the terrorists, dontcha know?

glenn

Love Tammy! How’s it goin Murph? Long time no see.

KillgoreTrout

KT–that is awesome.

glenn

It truly was glenn.

KillgoreTrout

I felt humbled.

KillgoreTrout

In the bigger picture,”civilization” has proven to be a failure. The world has been divided by religions and different forms of governments. With their own agendas.There is no viable way for us all come together for what needs to be done.IMO

Beatlex

hey murph

Harleigh

KT….Howdy…good to see you as well….Tammy is wonderful but the campaign in Southern Illinois is wicked mean.

MurphTheSurf3

Hey Murph–good to hear from you.

glenn

Murph!

pinkpantheroz

I have no doubt about that Murph. I take you have been experiencing that first hand?

KillgoreTrout

Ad…indeed….because of my time in Missouri, hostile territory, they have put be in the lion’s den of southern illinois.

MurphTheSurf3

One of my best, Ad. But then, I’ve had a lot of them, fortunately.

KillgoreTrout

Hi Glenn and PPO….nice to touch bases this week…weekends are campaign primetime.

MurphTheSurf3

And, with that being said, it’s time for me to move on out. I won’t be here for the next two weeks. I’m going to visit a friend in Michigan. Going to see some of the Great Lakes, and go through the locks at the St. Lawrence Seaway to see the 4th of July fireworks. I’m really psyched! Take care all, and see you in a couple of weeks.

glenn

And last night I was up late talking with friends in the UK…..nearly all of whom are very upset.

MurphTheSurf3

Envy you, glenn. Have a great vacation and see you in a couple of weeks.

pinkpantheroz

you’re in for a great time glenn! I wish you much fun!

KillgoreTrout

Murph did you remember to bring your RONCO bullethole repair kit?

Harleigh

Glenn….have a wonderful time.

MurphTheSurf3

later glenn…. enjoy!

Harleigh

Hey, if it’s RONCO, it’s the best!

KillgoreTrout

Harleigh…hah…WOW!

MurphTheSurf3

I know I’m not going anywhere near the republican convention in Cleveland. and I live in Ohio!

KillgoreTrout

Ad…where are you on the BRexit event?

MurphTheSurf3

big mistake Murph.

KillgoreTrout

I think their conveshun should allow guns AND free drinks.

Harleigh

KT…..I ver much agree.

MurphTheSurf3

I have a daughter, Ad! I’d like to stick around a while.

KillgoreTrout

There will be lots of guns, outside the convention hall. Rednecks, heavily armed, and all wearing hairshirts. What could possibly go wrong?

KillgoreTrout

Harleigh, just like Don the Con wanted the people at Pulse armed and pissed when the gunman walked in.

pinkpantheroz

We a a specie are brilliant.But are screw ups are monumental too

Beatlex

KT- ‘hold mah beer an watch this!!!

Harleigh

Ad…very much agree. My friends are mostly fellow academics…..as one of my pals wrote last night: “Very mis and ill informed people have been maneuvered into voting against their own interests….AGAIN!”

MurphTheSurf3

Kt, Thish here thing ain’t Load…..awwww sheeeeit!

pinkpantheroz

no lack of allegiance to the Planet, but self preservation has taken hold.

KillgoreTrout

LOL P. That has actually happened thousands of times.

KillgoreTrout

Sadly so, KT, sadly so.

pinkpantheroz

Damn Hareigh, where’d my leg go?

KillgoreTrout

Murph,such decisions should be made by the leaders we elect.It just becomes a fear fest if left up to the voters(ala America)

Beatlex

97 of this countries poorest counties are in red states and those counties are hardcore repubs! Absolutely no fuckin sense.

Harleigh

Ad, I sincerely hope that Brexit will cause a lot of Trump-leaning folk to think again.

pinkpantheroz

One of my best friends, and a fellow student in grad school at Cambridge, tells me that he thinks that the the referendum will be recalled. The petition on the government site set up to handle requests to government has close to a million signatures on it. 100,000 requires the Parliament to take it up.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph,then what?

Beatlex

Hareigh, that’s why all the Trump supporters are so pissed. But they’re so stupid to realize that their voting rep all these years has brought about their dissatisfaction. Truly stupid people.

KillgoreTrout

KT,ANGRY stupid voters

Beatlex

And they’re dangerous B.

KillgoreTrout

The powers that be love it KT

Beatlex

Murph, I’m sure they’re scrambling to see what they can do to nullify the Vote. There is one thing. There is no LEGAL obligation for the Perliament to actually heed the reesult! There is of course the matter of self-preservation of any politician who doean’t follow the will of the people. But we’ve seen that trampled onbefore, havent we?

pinkpantheroz

Again…”they’re.” Maybe it’s the brownie I ate an hour ago?

KillgoreTrout

Beatlex…the idea is that Parliament would take up the petition, cite the many emerging polls that show that the regret is huge and growing in no small part because of the outright lies now being uncovered…..and decide to either redo the referendum or to find other means to explore the issues. Referendums are non binding….

MurphTheSurf3

Thx M

Beatlex

PPO…but what if the real will of the people is to register their disgust with aspects of the EU but not to walk away? That is the tack I think they wil take.

MurphTheSurf3

Back now, what did I miss?

KillgoreTrout

well i gotta go folks. have a great weekend!

Harleigh

Bye Harl

Beatlex

Ciao, Harleigh

pinkpantheroz

LaFarge is a nasty piece of work. I thought Johnson was made of better stuff. Seems not.

MurphTheSurf3

You too Harleigh. Remember, we’re here to enjoy.

KillgoreTrout

By Harleigh.

MurphTheSurf3

Just maybe Trump will finally offend enough to get the congress back.He will have done a service if that happens

Beatlex

Here’s hoping, Ad. It is bewildering the amount of stuff all the talking heads are chundering out.

pinkpantheroz

it just might B. It just might.

KillgoreTrout

Another of my friends says she has a neighbor who has been a huge proponent of Brexit and was ecstatic last night…..only to come knocking at her door this morning a ripped up mess because of quick look at her retirement portfolio and word that her husbands company was going to move to the EU because it said that is what they would have to do.

MurphTheSurf3

That’s all talking heads are good for P…talking.

KillgoreTrout

Even R’s are balking Ad!

Beatlex

I think the dems have placed a stink on the GOP that won’t wash off for a long time to come. Actually, the GOP put the stink on themselves. The dems finally stood up and said “Take a wiff America.”

KillgoreTrout

murph, suggest that the lady tell her husband to get the company to move to Ireland! closer and they speak English, sort of.

pinkpantheroz

Ad…the referendum is non binding. It is advisory. Another referendum can be done but that is unlikely. I think that the Parliament may commission a series of very public fact finding efforts to show that the referendum results are not representative of the national will.

MurphTheSurf3

PPO- good suggestion…800 jobs in Leeds.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph,who decides if it is binding?

Beatlex

Beatlex…all referenda are non-binding. They are advisory.

MurphTheSurf3

LOL P! “sort of!”

KillgoreTrout

Any Parliament that holds a referendum like this and then ignores the result, does so at it’s own peril. But the conmen will surely try.

pinkpantheroz

It was a 5 point victory,or close

Beatlex

PPO….greater peril…follow through and the country goes into the toilet and they get blamed for that….if they are going to set the referendum aside they are going to have to commission a major fact finding effort, very public, very transparent to show that referendum did not reflect the will of the people.

MurphTheSurf3

KT, Ireland ( the Republic of) is encouraging companies to base there out of the UK! Good business!

pinkpantheroz

Well good Planet peeps, I must say so long and farewell, for now. Take care all, it’s been nice chatting, as usual.

KillgoreTrout

Bye KT!

Beatlex

G’night, KT. Great chat today. Congrats to all.

pinkpantheroz

Ad…it is your description that would be reflected in a Parliamentary effort to discredit the Referndum results…..Cameron’s decision not to step down immediately (October!) gives room for that to happen.

MurphTheSurf3

Nite KT…

MurphTheSurf3

I’m going to call it a day as well. take care y’all see you next week.

pinkpantheroz

Nite PPO – glad I caught up to you guys for a while.

MurphTheSurf3

Cheers, murph.

pinkpantheroz

I heard that the EU is going to play hardball and get them out quick

Beatlex

Beatle…EU does not want UK to leave….and cannot really force it since Article 50 governs the process but I think they are putting public pressure on the UK to face up to what has been done AND THEN UNDO IT.

MurphTheSurf3

Can they though? Murph

Beatlex

Ad…IF Parliamentarians in large numbers are being assaulted by very angry constituents, even in districts where the vote was to exit, then the question will be how do legitimately represent their citizens.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad,that opens up the argument about getting people to react emotionally.They did have 78% vote

Beatlex

The Times London is reporting that its flash polling is now showing a 60 percent rejection of the exit….what the hell….expect the Guardian to really dig into this….what is the duty of a legislature….to cooperate with a propaganda victory or do what is necessary to preserve the nation?

MurphTheSurf3

There are other countries n the EU ripe for the same thing

Beatlex

My friends tell me that many of those who voted with the exit are quickly realizing what a muck up it all is…especially those who call Labour their home party…

MurphTheSurf3

It’s a fine mess AD

Beatlex

I just did a quick check on the UK government site where the petition is mounted……it has crashed three times…more than 1.5 million are now signed on…my guess it will continue to grow day by day.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad..no poll by itself but as part of a wider info gathering…yes.

MurphTheSurf3

Well…interesting…I am brain dead…..time to fold the tent.

MurphTheSurf3

Goodnight Beatle and Ad. MTS

MurphTheSurf3

Night Murph

Beatlex

Trudeau is a subject for another time,By Ad!

Beatlex