Live Events – CNN Democratic Debate – 4-14-2016

Hey Ad! Thanks for the heads up on tonight’s debate!

KillgoreTrout

I was just thinking the same thing. This isn’t a sporting event. Well….

KillgoreTrout

OK, get out of my head Ad!

KillgoreTrout

True dat!

KillgoreTrout

I think she’ll TRY to remain calm. I’m not sure she’ll succeed. She REALLY WANTS to be prez. LOL!

KillgoreTrout

Bernie will work it in, but not aggressively.

KillgoreTrout

I think Hillary has been dreaming of the white house since her college days.

KillgoreTrout

come on Blitzer, stop trying to start a fight!

KillgoreTrout

What a sleaze.

KillgoreTrout

shit, my CNN feed just crapped out.

KillgoreTrout

Ok, it’s back.

KillgoreTrout

Bernie never really says how he’s going to curb Wall St.

KillgoreTrout

I agree with Hillary about that!

KillgoreTrout

HIllary really isn’t a progressive. I see her pretty much like Obama.

KillgoreTrout

On some issues, sure. On others, not so much.

KillgoreTrout

good luck with that Bernie.

KillgoreTrout

hillary seems to be maintaining an even keel, so far. That might not last.

KillgoreTrout

I have to say, HIllary goes into more detail than Bernie usually does.

KillgoreTrout

stop trying to start fights!

KillgoreTrout

Exactly.

KillgoreTrout

The CNN audience is pretty vocal.

kesmarn

Hey Homie!

KillgoreTrout

Hey, Homie! How’s everything down South there?

kesmarn

Pretty good, and you?

KillgoreTrout

That’s really a tired attack.

KillgoreTrout

Doing well! That was a great line from Bernie about “how upset” Wall St. must have been…!

kesmarn

Hey, AdLib!

kesmarn

“I said ‘Cut it out!'” sez Hillary. YEah and they really listened…

kesmarn

Bernie’s signalling for his waitress again! That’s funny when he does that.

KillgoreTrout

I did, AdLib. Just gotta check with one family member. So sorry I don’t have an answer just yet!

kesmarn

LOL!

KillgoreTrout

Talk about transcripts! This is quite a transcript:

kesmarn

He may be the poorest in the senate, but he’s not “poor,” by a long shot.

KillgoreTrout

I don’t really know what she would be hiding?

KillgoreTrout

There has to be a reason she’s hiding them. And she has copies/transcripts because it’s part of her contract with anyone who hires her that $1000 has to go for having a stenographer take notes — of which she gets a copy.

kesmarn

Possibly!

KillgoreTrout

The myth that Bernie hates every corporation in existence is really being pushed by the MSM.

kesmarn

Yes. Someone posted a copy of her standard contract.

kesmarn

He did!

kesmarn

That cackle of hers!

kesmarn

Bingo!

kesmarn

It’s so mechanical.

kesmarn

That laugh is a tell. She does it every time she thinks she’s got him.

KillgoreTrout

Ask about Honduras, CNN. Or is CNN already bought and paid for?

kesmarn

Right, Homie!

kesmarn

All the cable news channels are Homie.

KillgoreTrout

The Honduras story is really horrifying.

kesmarn

That’s a bit different than the I got ya laugh!

KillgoreTrout

Uh oH! Here we go!

KillgoreTrout

Good! Sanders called her out on a lie.

kesmarn

Yep. It’s cheap journalism.

KillgoreTrout

He is speaking truth right now.

kesmarn

Fifteen an hour is what a person needs to live the way American should live.

KillgoreTrout

She stand there with a straight face and lies? I’m seeing it and I can hardly believe it.

kesmarn

Pay often varies from region to region!

KillgoreTrout

$15 is ALREADY HAPPENING!

kesmarn

So true, AdLib!

kesmarn

not everywhere Homie. Only a few states.

KillgoreTrout

Right!

kesmarn

It’s happening in states that have higher costs of living.

KillgoreTrout

Right, Homie. I realize it’s on the coasts that it’s going to $15 at the moment, But the country is blowing right past her $12 goal while she’s not looking.

kesmarn

Well, that’s good news.

KillgoreTrout

Oh — now she doesn’t want any one ELSE to cackle! Only HRC can cackle.

kesmarn

Oh, hey, I’m all for it.

KillgoreTrout

Likewise!

kesmarn

VT is 49th out of the states in supplying guns to other states that are used in the commission of crimes.

kesmarn

Bernie did say he wouldn’t support sueing gun manufacturers. I watched him say it.

KillgoreTrout

Right, he did.

kesmarn

Now that’s true.

KillgoreTrout

Or rather, he didn’t support suing gun sellers.

kesmarn

His argument is that a Mom n Pop gun shop would be put out of business by a suit.

kesmarn

I think people should be able to sue gun manufacturers. May not be fair, but it might be effective, to a small degree, at least.

KillgoreTrout

Pharmaceutical manufacturers sued for every prescription drug overdose?

kesmarn

you can’t murder 20 people in less than 5 minutes with a knife.

KillgoreTrout

guns are made to kill. Pills aren’t.

KillgoreTrout

Sanders does support a ban on the sale of assault weapons though.

kesmarn

As he should!

KillgoreTrout

The best way to go would simply be to outlaw weapons like the AR15.

KillgoreTrout

Right. It would be like banning abortion — which is legal.

kesmarn

They can’t be.

KillgoreTrout

Never.

kesmarn

do you really think she considers black peopl to be super predators? Really?

KillgoreTrout

I don’t think she think all Black people are. I’ve heard the original statement she made and she said that there were people who had no consciences and no remorse — “the so-called Super Predators, and they must be brought to heel.”

kesmarn

it’s a horrible bill, but it has to be remembered, that it was drafted and passed at the height of the crack cocaine pidemic, when hundreds of people were being killed, because of it.

KillgoreTrout

I agree, Homie. At the time it had bi-partisan support. It’s bad features became evident only later.

kesmarn

The Congressional Black Caucus supported it.

KillgoreTrout

Yep. It was and is a horrible bill.

KillgoreTrout

The bill that was even worse was the Welfare Reform bill. That really hurt the poor.

kesmarn

And that was on Clinton.

kesmarn

now you’re talking Bernie! Now you’re talking.

KillgoreTrout

Just Say No. Hillary?

KillgoreTrout

Well said, AdLib! Great statement.

kesmarn

sometimes it’s not so easy, Ad!

KillgoreTrout

Now we have to sell some stuff…

kesmarn

of course Homie. Consume consume consume!

KillgoreTrout

I want a Nixon mask!

KillgoreTrout

I AM NOT A CROOK!

KillgoreTrout

I’m gonna make a sammich!

kesmarn

Mmmmm, sammiches!

KillgoreTrout

Ooo, that stung a bit!

KillgoreTrout

Ham salad! I saved the crow for Hillary.

kesmarn

yep!

KillgoreTrout

uh Oh!

KillgoreTrout

Good for bringing up the fracking issue, Bernie!

kesmarn

She’s got the Dubya-style “Heh-heh…” down.

kesmarn

True dat!

KillgoreTrout

Right, Obama is not running this time.

kesmarn

We’ll trade dirty air for poisonous water.

kesmarn

Isn’t it?

kesmarn

Is it just me or is HRC talking much more than Bernie?

kesmarn

‘Zactly. That ‘s why I mentioned trading dirty air for poisonous water. She thinks that’s a step forward??

kesmarn

How is any president going to make such sweeping change, non incrementally?

KillgoreTrout

That’s a total non-answer for Hillary.

kesmarn

How about solar and wind???

kesmarn

They’re both being used, mostly in blue states.

KillgoreTrout

Good point on rising oceans!

kesmarn

There ya go!

kesmarn

Just don’t do do on stage! Sorry, couldn’t pass that up!

KillgoreTrout

Hey P!

KillgoreTrout

Hey, PPO!

kesmarn

Now she’s going to defend the way things went in Libya?

kesmarn

She is probably ready to vomit, every time she hears the name Libya!

KillgoreTrout

Hey guys’n’gals.. Trying to hear the debate somewhere!

pinkpantheroz

It’s a veritable paradise right now, thanks to Hillary.

kesmarn

The attack? You mean the bombing?

KillgoreTrout

Right. Benghazi from the GOP is just a silly witch hunt. There’s so much more of substance that could be addressed.

kesmarn

Gaddafi was killed by his own people, though. Of course, with our help.

KillgoreTrout

So is Hillary criticizing the way Obama handled Syria??

kesmarn

Uh Oh. regime change?

KillgoreTrout

There it is!

kesmarn

That’s what I said, with our help.

KillgoreTrout

Now she’s throwing Obama under the bus?

kesmarn

Bernie is a bit out of his element concerning foreign policy.

KillgoreTrout

All the good stuff of the Obama admin is due to her. All the bad stuff is Obama’s fault.

kesmarn

His “judgment” questions regarding her are legit.

kesmarn

And she still supports a no-fly zone. Is she prepared to shoot down a Russian plane?

kesmarn

The Russians are pretty much out of Syria as of late.

KillgoreTrout

So true. I have never seen a really decent CNN debate.

kesmarn

no fly zones were Bill’s big thing.

KillgoreTrout

Not hard to pull off when the only thing you might have to shoot down are old WWI bi-planes. LOL!

kesmarn

LOL!

KillgoreTrout

our anti-aircraft weapons are so advanced now, we could hit a flying squirrel from miles away.

KillgoreTrout

I don’t doubt it, Homie.

kesmarn

not yet Ad. bUt if Trump gets in, who knows?

KillgoreTrout

Preach it, Bernie! 2014 WAS a disproportionate response.

kesmarn

ain’t religion wonderful?

KillgoreTrout

Believing that God is in the real estate business is always a mistake.

kesmarn

every time Homie. Israel just needs to give the Palestinians their own state. That’s really the only solution.

KillgoreTrout

Indeed!

kesmarn

Good for Bernie for going back to the original issue. “Precautions taken…”? What does that mean?

kesmarn

Yes, Muslims in this area love Bernie!

kesmarn

Hamas only has ineffective homemade rockets. Israel has US rockets, Very, very deadly and accurate.

KillgoreTrout

According to Hillary, this is all the fault of the Palestinians.

kesmarn

If I recall the death count from 2014, it was something like 35:3500.

kesmarn

That’s what it sounds like Homie. I will say though, Israel is an ally.

KillgoreTrout

Yes, Homie. And they certainly have a right to exist in peace. But the Palestinians have really suffered disproportionately I think.

kesmarn

Yes! “Netanyahu is not right all of the time.”

kesmarn

I agree Homie.

KillgoreTrout

Net is an asshole.

KillgoreTrout

I’d like to see a “minute count” of how long each of these candidates have been allowed to speak.

kesmarn

Totally agree, Homie!

kesmarn

Does anybody know if he had any family murdered by the Nazis?

KillgoreTrout

That might explain some of his actions. I’m saying it’s justified, just understandable.

KillgoreTrout

Yes, I believe he did, Homie. I think his father’s family in Poland got hit very hard.

kesmarn

Not saying! Damn!

KillgoreTrout

wEll that does explain a lot.

KillgoreTrout

Did you mean on the issue of Palestine, Homie?

kesmarn

Yeah! It goes a ways to explain his extreme Zionism.

KillgoreTrout

i know he has mentioned “the ovens,” in a few of his public appearances.

KillgoreTrout

Oh! I was thinking you meant Bernie’s family and the Nazis!

kesmarn

BRB!

kesmarn

15 trillion is a huge exaggeration

KillgoreTrout

i couldn’t agree more. higher education and tech schools are very important and shouldn’t be unattainable.

KillgoreTrout

Crap! No luck finding the debate anywhere here. From what you are all saying is it looks as if Bernie is doing better than Clinton, despite the interruptions

pinkpantheroz

oh I don’t know P. It’s been pretty even, I think. That’s just an opinion, mind you!

KillgoreTrout

It’s a real pain not being able to listen.

pinkpantheroz

Yeah, that sucks P!

KillgoreTrout

That’s doesn’t surprise me one bit Ad!

KillgoreTrout

PPO, I wish you could watch too! You’re a real trouper for hanging in there with us, without being able to hear anything!

kesmarn

Well, Kes, I just love this stuff! Better than anything on the TV here, for sure!

pinkpantheroz

It is gripping drama!

kesmarn

Bernie has supported Democrats for a long time! He has caucused with them.

kesmarn

Ah, the True Scottsman angle!

KillgoreTrout

Ooooohhh they’re booing her now…!

kesmarn

obama made the republicans an “offer they couldn’t refuse.” Genius move.

KillgoreTrout

Bernie’s pretty much promising to reconsider that SCOTUS nominee in favor of a more liberal person.

kesmarn

Lost my feed for a while there…

kesmarn

Ooooo! Game changer now.

KillgoreTrout

tearing hair out right now!

pinkpantheroz

She has every right to talk about women’s issues.

KillgoreTrout

Might have to shut down and re-boot.

kesmarn

LOL!

KillgoreTrout

HA!

KillgoreTrout

Ooops!

KillgoreTrout

Sorry, have to admit defeat this time! see you tomorrow, folks!

pinkpantheroz

Take care P!

KillgoreTrout

Back on, kids. She just will not shut up.

kesmarn

Absolutely! Party unity is very important., especially now!

KillgoreTrout

G’night, PPO! Better luck next time!

kesmarn

She might be better off not to mention Super Delegates.

kesmarn

Pledged delegates Homie. Or are they the same? I don’t really know.

KillgoreTrout

Pretty much the same, Homie.

kesmarn

The young voters I’ve talked to say that her “Disappointed Mom” routine (“You may not care about me, but I care about you.” Sad face.) is a REAL turnoff.

kesmarn

Well folks! See ya later!

KillgoreTrout

G’night, Homie!

kesmarn

I don’t either. And I say that as a woman. If this were Elizabeth Warren I could get behind her, but Clinton leaves me not just un-enthusiastic, but actually extremely irritated!

kesmarn

I’ll just catch their final statements and then try to wind down. It might take wine to get over the irritation she produced tonight! LOL!

kesmarn

Yes! There’s so much video out there of her doing complete U-turns on policy positions just to pander. There’s not core. No inner morality. Just tremendous ambition.

kesmarn

I wish I knew, AdLib. The supporters of HRC that I know are very comfortable middle-class — feminists (not that there’s anything wrong with that) — and oblivious to the plight of the poor.

kesmarn

Exactly! She had that highway rename the “Tim Russert Highway” That changed my life for the better, I know.

kesmarn

God love your Mom, but I see it the exact opposite way. Bernie doesn’t seem to “yell.” She is strident and almost shrill. I can’t stand it.

kesmarn

I think Bernie gained a bit from this one, but it’s hard for me to be objective.

kesmarn

I think he gained from that gigantic rally last night too.

kesmarn

That’s exactly how I see it. Well, I really should sign off for now — early phone call expected tomorrow. And i’m thinking it is looking pretty good for hosting Vox tomorrow night at this point.

kesmarn

kesmarn

G’night! Will do!

kesmarn

Good Friday evening, fellow Planeteers! Welcome to Vox. Our Fearless Leader had a few family obligations tonight. (The nerve of him — wanting to spend time with his wife and child.) But we can still make fun of The Donald, even when the boss is away. Maybe ESPECIALLY when the boss is away. And I do believe I found the keys to the liquor cabinet in the top desk drawer here, so… Welcome to the weekend!

kesmarn