Our live chat accompanying tonight’s Democratic debate begins with the debate at 6pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib5 months ago
Hey Ad! Thanks for the heads up on tonight’s debate!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hey KT!
AdLib5 months ago
Absolutely!
AdLib5 months ago
The National Anthem being sung before these debates is asinine IMO.
AdLib5 months ago
Just plays intoo this being a sporting event and not serious.
AdLib5 months ago
I was just thinking the same thing. This isn’t a sporting event. Well….
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
OK, get out of my head Ad!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
And they’re such cowards, both parties are too afraid to pull it back and goo mack too a serious adult debate. Then again, a debate on CNN led by a weasel named Wolf is hardly serious.
AdLib5 months ago
True dat!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Do you think Hillary will be aggressive towards Bernie (and continue her startegy of trying to disqualify him) or try to present a more calm and thoughtful demeanor?
AdLib5 months ago
I think she’ll TRY to remain calm. I’m not sure she’ll succeed. She REALLY WANTS to be prez. LOL!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
And do you think Bernie will be aggressive towards Hillary (on things like taking money from Verizon/Wall Street/etc. or try to affirm his more positive agenda?
AdLib5 months ago
Bernie will work it in, but not aggressively.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
That she does. Though to be fair, so does Bernie. But he seems less mercenary about it.
AdLib5 months ago
I think Hillary has been dreaming of the white house since her college days.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Of course CNN/Wolf begins by baiting Bernie to attack Hillary, such a low and nasty Reality Show, not a debate.
AdLib5 months ago
come on Blitzer, stop trying to start a fight!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
What a sleaze.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Bernie is going right after her though. She has every right to go after him hard too.
AdLib5 months ago
shit, my CNN feed just crapped out.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hillary’s answer is lame IMO, instead of admitting the bad decisions she’s made she hides behind Obama.
AdLib5 months ago
They’re both going at it hammer and tongs.
AdLib5 months ago
Wow…both are going to war!
AdLib5 months ago
With each other, that is!
AdLib5 months ago
Ok, it’s back.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
That Hillary laugh she uses to respond to attacks is soooo phony.
AdLib5 months ago
Bernie never really says how he’s going to curb Wall St.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hillary says it’s phony to say that taking contributions from the wealthy affects politicians. How is that Progressive?
AdLib5 months ago
I agree with Hillary about that!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
About?
AdLib5 months ago
HIllary really isn’t a progressive. I see her pretty much like Obama.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
I think Obama was always a centrist leaning a bit left but Hillary is a conservative DLCer.
AdLib5 months ago
On some issues, sure. On others, not so much.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
good luck with that Bernie.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
The DLC was all about conservativism on military and financial issues but liberal on social issues.
AdLib5 months ago
hillary seems to be maintaining an even keel, so far. That might not last.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Yes, they’ve cooled down a little now.
AdLib5 months ago
I have to say, HIllary goes into more detail than Bernie usually does.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
stop trying to start fights!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
What a terrible question! That Bernie has to point out a specific quid pro quo when Hillary served Wall Street for contributing. That’s not how corruption works, it’s more about what they don’t support usually.
AdLib5 months ago
Exactly.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
The CNN audience is pretty vocal.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Hey Homie!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hey, Homie! How’s everything down South there?
kesmarn
5 months ago
Hillary supported Wall Street’s bankruptcy bill originally, which has killed consumers since then, not allowing people to get rid of credit card debt.
AdLib5 months ago
Pretty good, and you?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
That’s really a tired attack.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Bernie nailed that line of Hillary’s that she wagged her finger at Wall Street while taking their money.
AdLib5 months ago
Hey Kes!
AdLib5 months ago
Doing well! That was a great line from Bernie about “how upset” Wall St. must have been…!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes, yes, that’s what I meant, it is a lame line.
AdLib5 months ago
Hey, AdLib!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes, did you get my email?
AdLib5 months ago
“I said ‘Cut it out!'” sez Hillary. YEah and they really listened…
kesmarn
5 months ago
Bernie’s signalling for his waitress again! That’s funny when he does that.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
I did, AdLib. Just gotta check with one family member. So sorry I don’t have an answer just yet!
kesmarn
5 months ago
KT – He wants to order appetizers.
AdLib5 months ago
LOL!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Talk about transcripts! This is quite a transcript:
He may be the poorest in the senate, but he’s not “poor,” by a long shot.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
I wish Bernie would ask Hillary what she has to hide by not releasing the transcripts of her speeches to Wall Street.
AdLib5 months ago
If she has nothing to hide, release them.
AdLib5 months ago
I don’t really know what she would be hiding?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
I’ll bet she said some things that would be very embarassing in the election.
AdLib5 months ago
There has to be a reason she’s hiding them. And she has copies/transcripts because it’s part of her contract with anyone who hires her that $1000 has to go for having a stenographer take notes — of which she gets a copy.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Possibly!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
The myth that Bernie hates every corporation in existence is really being pushed by the MSM.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Didn’t know that Kes, thanks for the info!
AdLib5 months ago
Kes – But he batted it down tonight, glad he did.
AdLib5 months ago
Yes. Someone posted a copy of her standard contract.
kesmarn
5 months ago
He did!
kesmarn
5 months ago
The laugh! The laugh! Like fingernails on a chalkboard!
AdLib5 months ago
That cackle of hers!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Bingo!
kesmarn
5 months ago
It’s so mechanical.
kesmarn
5 months ago
SO damn phony! Who genuinely laughs when someone attacks your judgment?
AdLib5 months ago
That laugh is a tell. She does it every time she thinks she’s got him.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Ask about Honduras, CNN. Or is CNN already bought and paid for?
kesmarn
5 months ago
Right, Homie!
kesmarn
5 months ago
All the cable news channels are Homie.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
KT – She also does it whenever she’s attacked. It’s such a phony tick of hers.
AdLib5 months ago
The Honduras story is really horrifying.
kesmarn
5 months ago
That’s a bit different than the I got ya laugh!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Uh oH! Here we go!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
CNN only wants to inflame a fight between them, not earnestly explore issues.
AdLib5 months ago
Good! Sanders called her out on a lie.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Yep. It’s cheap journalism.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
He is speaking truth right now.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Fifteen an hour is what a person needs to live the way American should live.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
And her phony smile. And her lie that she supported the $15/hr when she wanted $12/hr.
AdLib5 months ago
She stand there with a straight face and lies? I’m seeing it and I can hardly believe it.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Pay often varies from region to region!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Kes – There’s a reason that a majority of Americans see her as untrustworthy.
AdLib5 months ago
$15 is ALREADY HAPPENING!
kesmarn
5 months ago
So true, AdLib!
kesmarn
5 months ago
not everywhere Homie. Only a few states.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Kes – That’s what Bernie nailed, it’s happening and Hillary is actually trying to pull it back down to $12/hr.
AdLib5 months ago
Right!
kesmarn
5 months ago
It’s happening in states that have higher costs of living.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
KT – That’s what this is about, the $15/hr is in NY and CA now but spreading.
AdLib5 months ago
Right, Homie. I realize it’s on the coasts that it’s going to $15 at the moment, But the country is blowing right past her $12 goal while she’s not looking.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Well, that’s good news.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Oh — now she doesn’t want any one ELSE to cackle! Only HRC can cackle.
kesmarn
5 months ago
KT – But to bring everyone up, a national $15/hr would be effective. And increase spending that would bring more income to the businesses paying $15/hr. And I’m happy to pay .20 cents more for a burger if it means bringing millions of Americans out of poverty.
AdLib5 months ago
Oh, hey, I’m all for it.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Likewise!
kesmarn
5 months ago
VT is 49th out of the states in supplying guns to other states that are used in the commission of crimes.
kesmarn
5 months ago
I’m kind of tired of Bernie defending himself on guns but Hillary hammers on it.
AdLib5 months ago
Bernie did say he wouldn’t support sueing gun manufacturers. I watched him say it.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Right, he did.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Now that’s true.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Or rather, he didn’t support suing gun sellers.
kesmarn
5 months ago
KT – Out of principle, I agree with Bernie. Should manufacturers of any product be liable if someone chooses to use it to kill people? More people are killed by cars and we wouldn’t allow suits against car manufacturers for people who kill others with them.
AdLib5 months ago
His argument is that a Mom n Pop gun shop would be put out of business by a suit.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Knife manufacturers? Should they be liable?
AdLib5 months ago
I think people should be able to sue gun manufacturers. May not be fair, but it might be effective, to a small degree, at least.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Pharmaceutical manufacturers sued for every prescription drug overdose?
kesmarn
5 months ago
you can’t murder 20 people in less than 5 minutes with a knife.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
guns are made to kill. Pills aren’t.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
KT – I don’t see the legal theoory of how manufacturers are responsible for selling a legal product. Though I do agree that if they knowingly put something dangerous in the hands of someone who they should know could cause harm, they could be liable.
AdLib5 months ago
Sanders does support a ban on the sale of assault weapons though.
kesmarn
5 months ago
As he should!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
The best way to go would simply be to outlaw weapons like the AR15.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
KT – But guns are a legal and Constitutionally protected item. So how can manufacturers be sued for wrong doing just for that?
AdLib5 months ago
Right. It would be like banning abortion — which is legal.
kesmarn
5 months ago
They can’t be.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hillary won’t apologize for the Super Predator thing,
AdLib5 months ago
Never.
kesmarn
5 months ago
do you really think she considers black peopl to be super predators? Really?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
She’s sorry for things that happened but won’t apologize for her support of the crime bill.
AdLib5 months ago
I don’t think she think all Black people are. I’ve heard the original statement she made and she said that there were people who had no consciences and no remorse — “the so-called Super Predators, and they must be brought to heel.”
kesmarn
5 months ago
it’s a horrible bill, but it has to be remembered, that it was drafted and passed at the height of the crack cocaine pidemic, when hundreds of people were being killed, because of it.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
KT – And many black politicians supported it.
AdLib5 months ago
I agree, Homie. At the time it had bi-partisan support. It’s bad features became evident only later.
kesmarn
5 months ago
The Congressional Black Caucus supported it.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Yep. It was and is a horrible bill.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
The bill that was even worse was the Welfare Reform bill. That really hurt the poor.
kesmarn
5 months ago
And that was on Clinton.
kesmarn
5 months ago
now you’re talking Bernie! Now you’re talking.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
It was the ugly product of “bi-partisanship”, accepting hoorrible things because you get good things for it. I worry Hillary will do much more of this kind of triangulating if elected, accepting horrible things in a trade off for some good things. Horrible things have to be prevented no matter what.
AdLib5 months ago
Just Say No. Hillary?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Well said, AdLib! Great statement.
kesmarn
5 months ago
sometimes it’s not so easy, Ad!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Now we have to sell some stuff…
kesmarn
5 months ago
of course Homie. Consume consume consume!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
KT – You’re right, it’s very tempting to make such a tradeoff, allowing the horrible as the price for good things elsewhere but I think history proves that the cancer of the horrible always overrides the good in the long run.
AdLib5 months ago
I’m buying a Reagan doll!
AdLib5 months ago
I want a Nixon mask!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
I AM NOT A CROOK!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
I’m gonna make a sammich!
kesmarn
5 months ago
“I AM NOT A CROOK!” bumper sticker? $139, please!
AdLib5 months ago
Mmmmm, sammiches!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
What kind of sammich???
AdLib5 months ago
Ooo, that stung a bit!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hillary was a key supporter of promoting fracking internationally.
AdLib5 months ago
Ham salad! I saved the crow for Hillary.
kesmarn
5 months ago
yep!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
I do wish Hillary was more forthright about what she’s done, she always responds by distracting from the things she doesn’t want to admit and it comes off as dishonest. I would like to like her more but she is the politician she is.
AdLib5 months ago
The laugh!!!
AdLib5 months ago
uh Oh!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Good for bringing up the fracking issue, Bernie!
kesmarn
5 months ago
She’s got the Dubya-style “Heh-heh…” down.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes – Yep, glad he mentioned it but he didn’t hold her feet to the fire…so to speak. And he should nail her for hiding behind Obama to justify her bad decisions.
AdLib5 months ago
True dat!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Right, Obama is not running this time.
kesmarn
5 months ago
We’ll trade dirty air for poisonous water.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes – Wow! You nailed it! Her laugh is like Bush’s “Heh-heh!”
AdLib5 months ago
Isn’t it?
kesmarn
5 months ago
Is it just me or is HRC talking much more than Bernie?
kesmarn
5 months ago
Fracking causes horrible pollution too! It is not a step forward from coal!
AdLib5 months ago
‘Zactly. That ‘s why I mentioned trading dirty air for poisonous water. She thinks that’s a step forward??
kesmarn
5 months ago
How is any president going to make such sweeping change, non incrementally?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hillary goes all over the map going towards the SCOTUS position when asked if she would support a carbon tax. She won’t answer it.
AdLib5 months ago
That’s a total non-answer for Hillary.
kesmarn
5 months ago
How about solar and wind???
kesmarn
5 months ago
What Bernie could explain is that the dislocation of fossil fuel workers would be far less than those relocated by rising oceans.
AdLib5 months ago
They’re both being used, mostly in blue states.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Good point on rising oceans!
kesmarn
5 months ago
There ya go!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Just don’t do do on stage! Sorry, couldn’t pass that up!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hey P!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hey, PPO!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Hillary won’t admit she did anything wrong and is praising the disaster in Libya.
AdLib5 months ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib5 months ago
Now she’s going to defend the way things went in Libya?
kesmarn
5 months ago
She is probably ready to vomit, every time she hears the name Libya!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hey guys’n’gals.. Trying to hear the debate somewhere!
pinkpantheroz
5 months ago
This is surreal, Hillary explaining how Libya was improved because of regime change.
AdLib5 months ago
It’s a veritable paradise right now, thanks to Hillary.
kesmarn
5 months ago
KT – I don’t blame her for that, the Benghazi attacks on her are BS. But her decision to support the Libya attack was a mistake and she won’t admit it.
AdLib5 months ago
The attack? You mean the bombing?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Right. Benghazi from the GOP is just a silly witch hunt. There’s so much more of substance that could be addressed.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Killing Gaddafi.
AdLib5 months ago
Gaddafi was killed by his own people, though. Of course, with our help.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
KT – We helped that happen, it was part of the plan by Obama and Hillary.
AdLib5 months ago
So is Hillary criticizing the way Obama handled Syria??
kesmarn
5 months ago
Uh Oh. regime change?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
There it is!
kesmarn
5 months ago
That’s what I said, with our help.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
So now Hillary washes her hands and was just a messenger as SoS on Libya and it’s all Obama’s fault?
AdLib5 months ago
Now she’s throwing Obama under the bus?
kesmarn
5 months ago
Bernie is a bit out of his element concerning foreign policy.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Kes – Yep, she is.
AdLib5 months ago
KT – Don’t disagree but my issue with Hillary is despite her knowledge, she makes bad decisions.
AdLib5 months ago
All the good stuff of the Obama admin is due to her. All the bad stuff is Obama’s fault.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Bernie may be less knowledgable about Foreign but his instincts are far better.
AdLib5 months ago
His “judgment” questions regarding her are legit.
kesmarn
5 months ago
And she still supports a no-fly zone. Is she prepared to shoot down a Russian plane?
kesmarn
5 months ago
I hate CNN! They won’t allow the candidates to get deeply into any issue and just shove them from question to questioon, as if their questions are more important than depth of any discussion!!!
AdLib5 months ago
The Russians are pretty much out of Syria as of late.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Yes Kes, Hillary would support shooting down Russian planes and starting a war between our countries. Crazy!
AdLib5 months ago
So true. I have never seen a really decent CNN debate.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes – They are mutually exclusive, CNN and decent debates.
AdLib5 months ago
no fly zones were Bill’s big thing.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Not hard to pull off when the only thing you might have to shoot down are old WWI bi-planes. LOL!
kesmarn
5 months ago
LOL!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
our anti-aircraft weapons are so advanced now, we could hit a flying squirrel from miles away.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
KT – We’re at war with Rocket J. Squirrel?
AdLib5 months ago
I don’t doubt it, Homie.
kesmarn
5 months ago
not yet Ad. bUt if Trump gets in, who knows?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Preach it, Bernie! 2014 WAS a disproportionate response.
kesmarn
5 months ago
ain’t religion wonderful?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Believing that God is in the real estate business is always a mistake.
kesmarn
5 months ago
every time Homie. Israel just needs to give the Palestinians their own state. That’s really the only solution.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Indeed!
kesmarn
5 months ago
It is meaningful to have a Jew campaigning for respect for Palestinians.
AdLib5 months ago
Good for Bernie for going back to the original issue. “Precautions taken…”? What does that mean?
kesmarn
5 months ago
Yes, Muslims in this area love Bernie!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Hamas only has ineffective homemade rockets. Israel has US rockets, Very, very deadly and accurate.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
And I thought Trump said, “Muslims love me!”
AdLib5 months ago
According to Hillary, this is all the fault of the Palestinians.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Hillary will never give a straight answer to a question.
AdLib5 months ago
If I recall the death count from 2014, it was something like 35:3500.
kesmarn
5 months ago
That’s what it sounds like Homie. I will say though, Israel is an ally.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hillary is a hawk and would support Israel being more militaristic.
AdLib5 months ago
They cut ooff Bernie but won’t cut off Hillary.
AdLib5 months ago
Yes, Homie. And they certainly have a right to exist in peace. But the Palestinians have really suffered disproportionately I think.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Yes! “Netanyahu is not right all of the time.”
kesmarn
5 months ago
I agree Homie.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Heh! Bernie said what I did, that Hillary evaded the issue. She did.
AdLib5 months ago
Net is an asshole.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
KT – You said it!
AdLib5 months ago
I’d like to see a “minute count” of how long each of these candidates have been allowed to speak.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Totally agree, Homie!
kesmarn
5 months ago
She’s going for minutes again without being cut off. Bernie gets cut ooff.
AdLib5 months ago
Does anybody know if he had any family murdered by the Nazis?
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
That might explain some of his actions. I’m saying it’s justified, just understandable.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Yes, I believe he did, Homie. I think his father’s family in Poland got hit very hard.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Hillary insists on having the last word on every issue but she won’t address the issues directly. She did go to AIPAC and didn’t say anything about the plight of the Palestinians.
AdLib5 months ago
Not saying! Damn!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
wEll that does explain a lot.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Did you mean on the issue of Palestine, Homie?
kesmarn
5 months ago
Hillary fades oone way, that “everyone isn’t always right, then leans back to justify Netanyahu’s every action.
AdLib5 months ago
Yeah! It goes a ways to explain his extreme Zionism.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
i know he has mentioned “the ovens,” in a few of his public appearances.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Oh! I was thinking you meant Bernie’s family and the Nazis!
kesmarn
5 months ago
BRB!
kesmarn
5 months ago
15 trillion is a huge exaggeration
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
i couldn’t agree more. higher education and tech schools are very important and shouldn’t be unattainable.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Crap! No luck finding the debate anywhere here. From what you are all saying is it looks as if Bernie is doing better than Clinton, despite the interruptions
pinkpantheroz
5 months ago
oh I don’t know P. It’s been pretty even, I think. That’s just an opinion, mind you!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
It’s a real pain not being able to listen.
pinkpantheroz
5 months ago
Yeah, that sucks P!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hillary is the candidate of “No, we can’t.” On single payer, on free public college, etc. No big ideas, just a policy of starting from a positioon of accepting defeat.
AdLib5 months ago
That $15 trillion figure is fictional and constructed by the Murdoch owned WSJ.
AdLib5 months ago
That’s doesn’t surprise me one bit Ad!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
PPO, I wish you could watch too! You’re a real trouper for hanging in there with us, without being able to hear anything!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Well, Kes, I just love this stuff! Better than anything on the TV here, for sure!
pinkpantheroz
5 months ago
Bernie has previously explained that it took time to bring public school to being free up to grade 12. he’s trying to continue that for 4 more years. It is not anymore ridiculous than having free public school escalated as it has been to grade 12.
AdLib5 months ago
Yes, cheers to you PPO for dealing with the blackout!
AdLib5 months ago
It is gripping drama!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Hillary keeps leaping around and won’t give a straight answer.
AdLib5 months ago
Bernie has supported Democrats for a long time! He has caucused with them.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Ah, the True Scottsman angle!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Ooooohhh they’re booing her now…!
kesmarn
5 months ago
I think only Bernie would nominate a more liberal SCOTUS, I think Hillary would not.
AdLib5 months ago
obama made the republicans an “offer they couldn’t refuse.” Genius move.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
He’s said so and just did again.
AdLib5 months ago
Kes – Yep, she thinks she can fool people with the way she dances around giving a straight answer but it’s so obvious.
AdLib5 months ago
Bernie’s pretty much promising to reconsider that SCOTUS nominee in favor of a more liberal person.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes – Yep, and that’s what I would like to see.
AdLib5 months ago
Lost my feed for a while there…
kesmarn
5 months ago
Hillary plays the sexist card again against Bernie. What a piece of work.
AdLib5 months ago
Ooooo! Game changer now.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
tearing hair out right now!
pinkpantheroz
5 months ago
Sorry about that PPO!
AdLib5 months ago
She has every right to talk about women’s issues.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Bernie being cut off again.
AdLib5 months ago
Might have to shut down and re-boot.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes – Only 10 min left!
AdLib5 months ago
LOL!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Glad Bernie steamrolled through the mod’s attempt to cut him off.
AdLib5 months ago
HA!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Hillary will never address Bernie’s lead over her against all the Repubs.
AdLib5 months ago
Ooops!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Sorry, have to admit defeat this time! see you tomorrow, folks!
pinkpantheroz
5 months ago
Take care P!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Back on, kids. She just will not shut up.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes – Welcome back!
AdLib5 months ago
Absolutely! Party unity is very important., especially now!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
G’night, PPO! Better luck next time!
kesmarn
5 months ago
She might be better off not to mention Super Delegates.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Pledged delegates Homie. Or are they the same? I don’t really know.
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
Pretty much the same, Homie.
kesmarn
5 months ago
KT – It’s not the best time for party unity to take place but it will happen for the most part in July at the Convention. But Hillary has been reducing the amount of enthusiasm that the most enthusiastic Dem voters, the youth voters, will have towards her at that time. She’d beat Trump or Cruz but not because of enthusiasm.
AdLib5 months ago
Like most oof the Dem debates, I don’t think this changed anything.
AdLib5 months ago
The young voters I’ve talked to say that her “Disappointed Mom” routine (“You may not care about me, but I care about you.” Sad face.) is a REAL turnoff.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Well folks! See ya later!
KillgoreTrout
5 months ago
G’night, Homie!
kesmarn
5 months ago
I still don’t “get” what people see in Hillary though.
AdLib5 months ago
Seeya KT!
AdLib5 months ago
I don’t either. And I say that as a woman. If this were Elizabeth Warren I could get behind her, but Clinton leaves me not just un-enthusiastic, but actually extremely irritated!
kesmarn
5 months ago
She is so inaccessable and evasive, so obviously disingenuous and manipulative at times. How do her supporters overlook that?
AdLib5 months ago
I’ll just catch their final statements and then try to wind down. It might take wine to get over the irritation she produced tonight! LOL!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Yes! There’s so much video out there of her doing complete U-turns on policy positions just to pander. There’s not core. No inner morality. Just tremendous ambition.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes – Right with you on that. I don’t always feel that way about opponents to the candidate I support in a Dem primary but for me, she has such a plotting, elitist way about her, I don’t like it in Repubs or Dems.
AdLib5 months ago
But why do you think Dems supporting her seem so oblivious of that?
AdLib5 months ago
I wish I knew, AdLib. The supporters of HRC that I know are very comfortable middle-class — feminists (not that there’s anything wrong with that) — and oblivious to the plight of the poor.
kesmarn
5 months ago
She accoomplished nothing as NY Senatoor but proposing post office re-namings.
AdLib5 months ago
Exactly! She had that highway rename the “Tim Russert Highway” That changed my life for the better, I know.
kesmarn
5 months ago
My mother prefers her but just for the general reason of wanting to see a woman president in her lifetime. She says Bernie yells too much and it annoys her, when I mention Hillary yells too, she says it’s not as annoying.
AdLib5 months ago
Now that’s what I call delivering results!
AdLib5 months ago
Well, this didn’t change anything IMO, unless I’m missing something.
AdLib5 months ago
God love your Mom, but I see it the exact opposite way. Bernie doesn’t seem to “yell.” She is strident and almost shrill. I can’t stand it.
kesmarn
5 months ago
I think Bernie gained a bit from this one, but it’s hard for me to be objective.
kesmarn
5 months ago
I think he gained from that gigantic rally last night too.
kesmarn
5 months ago
Kes – You and I are on the same page on that. I think she strains to yell and Bernie doesn’t. Not a sexist thing, just a style thing. Yelling and sounding like you’re voicing a populist outrage vs. just yelling.
AdLib5 months ago
The MSM tried to undo that by blaming him for that supporter’s “whore” comment. But I don’t think anyone but Hillary supporters would buy into that.
AdLib5 months ago
That’s exactly how I see it. Well, I really should sign off for now — early phone call expected tomorrow. And i’m thinking it is looking pretty good for hosting Vox tomorrow night at this point.
kesmarn
5 months ago
kesmarn
5 months ago
That would be great! Night Kes!
AdLib5 months ago
Let me know as soon as you know for sure!
AdLib5 months ago
G’night! Will do!
kesmarn
5 months ago
Good Friday evening, fellow Planeteers! Welcome to Vox. Our Fearless Leader had a few family obligations tonight. (The nerve of him — wanting to spend time with his wife and child.) But we can still make fun of The Donald, even when the boss is away. Maybe ESPECIALLY when the boss is away. And I do believe I found the keys to the liquor cabinet in the top desk drawer here, so… Welcome to the weekend!
As a great way to share this experience, PlanetPOV is hosting a live chat (live typed comments) tonight to discuss the night's results as they come in along with everything else this election will bring and what folks think it will mean for the future.
It is long past time to stop playing Trump’s game of racism, hate, misogyny, and abject greed. If Trump is elected, he will end democracy as we know it. Harris will preserve it and work to make it better and far more inclusive so we can have it, as Lincoln said, a more perfect union. It will only happen if you vote.
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