Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 21 days ago
Lunchtime here in MEL and Temp is 106F and climbing! Talk soon, if I can still breathe!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Wow! Hope you’re sitting on a block of ice!
AdLib 21 days ago
our poor A/C is battling to keep it at 100!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
That is pretty rough! You need new AC!
AdLib 21 days ago
The old story – We’re not poor, just no money!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
I know what you mean! And AC units ain’t cheap!
AdLib 21 days ago
For sure! Anyway, see you in an hour.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Maybe just buy an extra big fridge that you can fit a couch in?
AdLib 21 days ago
See you then!
AdLib 21 days ago
Hey Ad and PPO if you’re still here!
glenn

21 days ago
‘Evening all! What delights await us at the VP table this evening? Fricaseee of Trump, Rubio lasagne?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Hey glenn!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
So, Ad, what’s new? Here in good ole GA, we’re supposed to go down to 28 degrees F tonight!
glenn

21 days ago
Hey PPO! You’re still here!
glenn

21 days ago
Hey there!
AdLib 21 days ago
Yup. sweltering in record heat for this time of year. 106F!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
It’s been colder here in LA than in NY!
AdLib 21 days ago
Sheer luxureh, you lot!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Oops. Now that I read the times of your posts more carefully, I see you left an hour ago, and are now back! Sorry about your heat wave. Forgive me if I get it wrong, but isn’t Melbourne on the water? Your temps sound like desert temps!
glenn

21 days ago
I’m glad Obama said publicly that the GOP is the only party in the industrialized world that disputes Climate Change.
AdLib 21 days ago
glenn, You’re quite right, we’re on a bay, which is keeping the shore-side suburbs down in the 99s! We’re a bit inland and don’t get the sea breeze
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Ad, me too. And, isn’t it 190 other countries that signed the climate change agreement? Or is it 90? Either way, our repubs are succeeding in their quest to turn us into a third world country.
glenn

21 days ago
Is it humid, PPO?
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad, no, thank God! It is dry desert heat from up North west – The great Sandy desert
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
glenn – I think it’s like 191, almost 200 countries!!! Then, there’s the GOP on the other side of the scales. Or as the MSM might portray it, “two sides of the issue”.
AdLib 21 days ago
PPO–Yikes! You know, all those years I lived in the desert, people laughed at me when I said one could tell the difference between under 100 and over 100. It’s not much, but there really is a difference that one can feel. Sorry you’re on the “up” side of the 100!
glenn

21 days ago
glenn, they deny everything, including that their fundamentalist ‘Christian’ Evangelicals aren’t actually Christians. Not one word from the New Testament in sight!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Right PPO, that’s what I was thinking. But with all the Climate Change…
AdLib 21 days ago
ta, glenn. We’re due a cool change late sunday, down to 85!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Hottest weather I was ever in was 125 degrees in Palm Springs (which is the desert). Like walking through microwaved butter.
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad, surely, by their lights, it’s just a cyclical anoomaly that Jesus sent to punish the unbelievers
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
PPO–keep drinking lots of water with all that dry heat! One good thing is you don’t have to use many towels; you’re practically dry when you step out of the shower! ‘Course your elbows look like camels’ knees–or at least mine did!
glenn

21 days ago
glenn, mine already do anyway!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
PPO–and, of course Australia doesn’t have any guns to fight that evil climate change either!
glenn

21 days ago
If history books ever accurately record this period in history, Republicans will look positively insane and Americans will look a bit clueless for not treating them like the lunatics they were.
AdLib 21 days ago
glenn, saw a CBS this Morning article about Pastors and their flocks gunning up in Ca. to fend off baddies! All I can say is God help them. BTW one pastor was injured during the training!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
They deny science for crazy reasons, justify their open racism and bigotry with crazy reasons, believe in crazy conspiracy theories and call themselves pro-life for wanting to force women to give birth while celebrating daily mass shootings. Cray-cray!
AdLib 21 days ago
AD, …. and it’s all Obama’s fault
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Ad–hopefully it won’t be the repubs writing the history books; cause they’re trying their best to rewrite them now! BTW, did you see where a father in FL is suing his child’s school because they aren’t teaching evolution? Love it!
glenn

21 days ago
The Decline and Fall of Americana
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
PPO–yeah, I saw that article too. The instructor shot one of the pastors. Nothing says “peace on earth” like fully-armed pastors, right?
glenn

21 days ago
Yes, glenn, Where’s Nirek? Bernie is on the rampage, suiing the DNC!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
glenn – Haven’t seen that but cool to hear. I think there’s some legal action in TX too against their insane, RW fantasy Books masquerading as history.
AdLib 21 days ago
Bon Soir, B eatlex! Ca va?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
PPO–NIrek told me in a post once he can’t stay up this late to join us at VOX! I do love that Bernie is starting to come out swinging! I think he has the best progressive platform; it just doesn’t get a quarter of the attention that the crazies get!
glenn

21 days ago
Ta, glenn. Yes, Bernie is not going away anytime soon, which, IMO is a good thing for Dems.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Good for Bernie, suing the DNC is a win-win for him. His people may have gotten caught with their hands in the cookie jar but the DNC opened the jar. And Debbie Wasserman Schultz is such a phony and liar, her defense for barring Bernie from his own data is that she would have done the same if Hillary’s camp had done that. No way on Earth, the DNC would never have over-reacted like this against Hillary. And…who do you think leaked this all to the press, either Hillary’s camp or the DNC. If either cared about the party, they would have kept it private until it was all handled, this was done to hurt Bernie and I think it will backfire.
AdLib 21 days ago
Jeb! “It’s OVER,you are so low energy” -Chump. It is hard to watch,Imagine,George was the smart one! LOL
Beatlex

21 days ago
Hey Beatlex!
AdLib 21 days ago
Hey AD!
Beatlex

21 days ago
brb – coffee break
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
I’m working on a letter to some of the news sites that I regularly visit hoping I can convince them to lay off the trump/cruz stories. Or if they’re going to run stories on the crazies, at least “flip the script”. Instead of running six thousand articles on what people say about what trump/cruz says, ask t/c what they think of what Bernie says. For example, what do t/c think of Bernie’s assertion about income inequality? What do they think of Bernie’s stance on treating Muslims like human beings? That way, at least Bernie’s positions on issues would get out there, and we could hear how t/c would do it differently, and why. I would love to see that!
glenn

21 days ago
Jeb was supposed to be the smart one but he turned out to be The Entitled One. Ahg, the pitfalls of in-breeding.
AdLib 21 days ago
So what is with this voter list thing between Hillary and the Bern man?
Beatlex

21 days ago
Ad–I agree. Plus all of this makes it look like the Dems are just as cray-cray as the repubs. If DWS wanted what was best for the country, she would let Bernie and Hillary go head-to-head and let the voters decide!
glenn

21 days ago
glenn – Excellent idea! If enough people demand more coverage of other pols, they’ll serve the market.
AdLib 21 days ago
Hey Beatlex, how are you?
glenn

21 days ago
Not bad glenn,been busy,and you?
Beatlex

21 days ago
glenn – Debbie is a dishonest idiot. She didn’t understand that with the Repubs tearing each other up, keeping this private would help Hillary just from a PR perspective. Seeing infighting in the Dem Party, only hurts Hillary. But DWS just can’t resist trying to use every tool possible to tilt the race into Hillary’s lap.
AdLib 21 days ago
Doing okay, Beatlex. My mom passed away a couple of weeks ago; Christmas is coming up (which is close to the date of my husband’s passing); and I’m trying to get in the spirit of Christmas for my granddaughter. I go from one emotion to another in the space of 30 seconds lately. This, too, shall pass, but sometimes I feel like a bouncing ball!
glenn

21 days ago
Hey Murph! How goes it?
glenn

21 days ago
Hi Glenn….
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Ad–I agree about DWS. When and how can we get rid of her as chair of the DNC?
glenn

21 days ago
glenn – I know you’ll be there for your granddaughter…and she’ll be there for you.
AdLib 21 days ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 21 days ago
Part of Chump’s defence for praising Putin….”Hey,we kill a lot of people to,don’t kid yourself” unreal!
Beatlex

21 days ago
Hi, Ad.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
glenn – People forget that DWS was at the helm of one of the Dems’ biggest losses in 2014. She is awful and a huge failure and embarassment.
AdLib 21 days ago
Beatlex–yeah–that was unbelievable. Last week, trump was all about how tough he would be with putin. Then putin fawns over trump and trump tells us what a great leader putin is. Joe Scarborough practically had to put words in trump’s mouth regarding putin’s pogroms against journalists and dissidents!
glenn

21 days ago
Where is Dean when we need him.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Glenn,I am sorry for your loss man!
Beatlex

21 days ago
Beatlex – What should shock every American is that he was justifying a tyrant murdering journalists for reporting truths about him. But Trump is cool with that. what a great President he would be…of Russia.
AdLib 21 days ago
Murph–Any way we can get Dean back? I love his passion!
glenn

21 days ago
Beatlex–thanks.
glenn

21 days ago
Glenn….he is long out of those corridors of power I fear.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Hello Planeteers!
Sabreen60

21 days ago
Glenn…what loss?
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Unfortunately, Howard Dean is long gone from heading the DNC but DWS has to go! She’s already a partner in crime with Hillary’s campaign in alienating Bernie voters.
AdLib 21 days ago
Hey Sabreen!
AdLib 21 days ago
Murph–anyone who can take Dean’s place? Cause DWS needs to be out of there!
glenn

21 days ago
Hi Sab….
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Wonder if Bernie will take on the DNC at the debate?
AdLib 21 days ago
Murph–my mom passed away the day before Thanksgiving. The day that would have been my 49th wedding anniversary. Plus, my husband died on Dec. 27, so it’s a mixed bag of emotions for me lately.
glenn

21 days ago
Glenn….I am not familiar with the movers and shakers in the DNC…..so no clue really.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
And the MSM is pushing the meme about Cruz and Rubio being strong contenders with Trump while Cruz is only doing well in IA because of the religious extremists there and doing well nowhere else. Rubio doesn’t have a single state where he could win, how is he a competitor? Like Jeb is a competitor?
AdLib 21 days ago
glenn – I’m so sorry for your lost. This time of year is really hard when you’ve lost love one.
Sabreen60

21 days ago
Oh, Lordie! just got the news that my eldest Brother was found dead in his apartment in England. Has been for a couple of days. his daughter, my niece broke in and found him in bed. sorry guys, I don’t know how to process this right now. You may remember I lost another brother this timme last year.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Oh no, PPO. So sorry…
AdLib 21 days ago
Glenn….sorry to hear of your loss…your mom was obviously of advanced years but no loss is at a good time….your husband….last year? These things have a way of making holidays blue. Are they for you?
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Sorry, I don’t want to stifle the conversation, just wanted to share with my real online friends.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Hey Sabreen–thanks for your kind words. How are you doing?
glenn

21 days ago
PPO – You have my sympathy.
Sabreen60

21 days ago
Wow sorry to hear that,I remember last year too, OZ
Beatlex

21 days ago
A bad time indeed for a few of us, yes?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
PPO-so sorry…..death at this time of your carrys a special and hard sting. I am honored that you chose to share this with us.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
So sorry sabreen.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
PPO – Not at all, we’re a community here.
AdLib 21 days ago
There is a special connection here…..no doubt…..
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Ad, that’s how I feel – you have all become good friends and supporters.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
glenn – That little job I started with American Greetings is not no LITTLE. It’s manual labor and I’m tired. In fact, I have to work everyday including 12/24. I don’t know how long I’m going to do this.
Sabreen60

21 days ago
Politics seems so trite right now
Beatlex

21 days ago
Sab…I recall you taking on the job….part time you said……and then it grew….like mule meat….the more you chew the bigger it gets.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Murph–No, my husband died in 2009. My family keeps me going during the holidays. As my daughter keeps reminding me, “Daddy wouldn’t have wanted you to be sad, Mom.” So I have my little crying spells in private; and put on a good face for my granddaughter, who, as you know, is the light of my life. And, I know my husband wouldn’t have wanted me to be sad around her; she was the absolute love of his life.
glenn

21 days ago
PPO – We share a lot of personal thoughts here, I feel I know people here better than friends I’ve known for many years.
AdLib 21 days ago
NO, beat. We need something to distract, especially when there is nothing one can do about the situation. Let’s keep going!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
PPO–Oh, I”m so sorry! Please feel free to share with us. We are your friends and although we can’t share your loss; we can feel it for you.
glenn

21 days ago
glenn, a good thing for both of you
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Poor helpless low energy Jeb! Chump is making mince meat out of him-LOL
Beatlex

21 days ago
glenn, no details yet. It’s still middle of the night in England.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Glenn…2009…the day before yesterday in heart-time. Glad you have family to help you bid your time in good company.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Okay, just for the sake of thinking about something positive, how about that Martin Shkreli slime being arrested?
AdLib 21 days ago
Beat. Jeb is using the softly, softly approach, but I don’t think the party gets subtlety!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Ad–it was pure karma, wasn’t it? BTW, I have a niece named Karma!
glenn

21 days ago
PPO…you have both my sympathy and condolences
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Murph Funny how the person who hired me left out a whole lot of details.
Sabreen60

21 days ago
Ad,wiped that annoying grin off his face!
Beatlex

21 days ago
Ponzi gets caught again!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
He is the personification of all that is horrible about the Greed Class. Karma is so sweet sometimes!
AdLib 21 days ago
Sab…that was because the person who hired you knew the details!!!! and he/she saw a good hire in you…
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Sabreen–I sure hope that person who hired wasn’t your friend!
glenn

21 days ago
Thank you so much Murph. You’re a great help so often
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Beatlex – That was not a grin, it was a smirk. And he’ll have it wiped off his face by his cellmate.
AdLib 21 days ago
PPO – welcome…..a privilege.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
glenn – That’s such a cool name!
AdLib 21 days ago
I wonder how much Skablotski will be charged for the gel?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
PPO–The party couldn’t pronounce subtlety, let alone get it! Subtlety, what’s that?
glenn

21 days ago
No glenn, he wasn’t. I got the job through “Indeed” an on line employment site. The guy called me and set up the interview. A really nice guy. But as Murph said he KNEW the details and is finding it hard to keep good people.
Sabreen60

21 days ago
OZ,for sure!
Beatlex

21 days ago
PPO – He’s facing around 30 years but will never get that. However, he’ll be in prison longer than any of those he sought to kill by pricing that drug out of reach.
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad–yes it is a cool name. She’s a cool “kid” too. She’s not really a kid; she’s an adult with two great kids, a really nice husband, and her own consulting business. She lives in Carlsbad, CA. Is that anywhere near you?
glenn

21 days ago
Sabreen – Any way you can leverage the situation to lessen the workload? It’s cheaper for them than having to keep filling the same position over and over.
AdLib 21 days ago
AD,what do you know about HillaryBerngate?
Beatlex

21 days ago
Ad, don’t be too sure. any of the jurers may have a relative effected and nail his sorry hide to the wall. Here’s hoping, anyway. Egomania bites in the ass again.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Sabreen–geez, I can’t imagine why he’s finding it difficult to find good people if the people he hires have to work so many hours! /s/
glenn

21 days ago
Soooo. As I said – I have to work tomorrow. I have a few Safeway grocery stores and a Rite Aid – but they hadn’t been serviced in a while so they’re a mess. All this is to say I’m going to bed soon. I’m too old for this shit. Nite all
Sabreen60

21 days ago
Nighters Sabreen!
Beatlex

21 days ago
glenn – I have fond memories of Carlsbad, it’s a bit north of San Diego and has changed a lot but is a lovely seaside town.
AdLib 21 days ago
Good night Sabreen. take care and don’t work yourself to illness.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Rest well Sabreen, thanks for stopping by!
AdLib 21 days ago
‘Nite, Sabreen. Try not to work too hard. Ad, I could be wrong, but I’m assuming we won’t be here next Friday, so have a Merry Christmas, Sabreen!
glenn

21 days ago
Thanks guys. I know how to say “uncle” when it gets to be too much.
Sabreen60

21 days ago
good point glenn. Ad when will VP air again/
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Sabreen…nice to “see” you….take care.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
glenn – Right you are, we’ll be taking a hiatus for Vox on Christmas but we’ll be here on New Year’s Day! What better way to start 2016?
AdLib 21 days ago
Right on, Ad! Great idea.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Has anyone heard if any more poor candidates are dropping out?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
New Years would be good….it is a night that I have little use for.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Happy Friday, kids! A little late to the party. Have we talked about Debbie W-Schultz and the Great DNC Data Breach yet?
kesmarn

21 days ago
In case you haven’t been keeping track, Trump has been endorsed by a Neo Nazi leader, racist thugs assaulting minorities and the murderous dictator of Russia. Can Kim Jong-un be far behind?
AdLib 21 days ago
Kes,I have been trying!
Beatlex

21 days ago
Has Assad thrown his support behind Trump yet?
kesmarn

21 days ago
Kes, probably, seeing NetenYahooooo has dissed him
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Yes,and chump said “I can work with this guy” Kes
Beatlex

21 days ago
Hey, Beatlex. DWS is not handling this too well, imho.
kesmarn

21 days ago
Hey Kes! Never too late! Yes, we started off talking about that. DWS is an idiot, harming the Dems, Hillary and herself by leaking this publicly and over-reacting in such a heavy handed way. Only Bernie will benefit when this is all over.
AdLib 21 days ago
Kesmarn,that’s for sure,she has a conflict of interest right?
Beatlex

21 days ago
Even GOPer David Brooks said “There’s no way this is going to make Sanders look like a corrupt politician. Because he’s just not.”
kesmarn

21 days ago
Hi Kes….happy to see you.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Kes – Even better! Assad needs to come out to endorse Trump and ISIS needs to send him a thank you card for the boost in recruits.
AdLib 21 days ago
Hey, Murph! Likewise!
kesmarn

21 days ago
Right, AdLib. Maybe it should be Daesh Trump instead of Donald.
kesmarn

21 days ago
Here’s a thought. Why doesn’t Trump just build a wall around Isis and keep them in there?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Hey Kes–I was gone for a minute, but I’m back now. How are you?
glenn

21 days ago
OZ_LOL
Beatlex

21 days ago
Or maybe a wall around himself, PPO?
kesmarn

21 days ago
better still, kes! but he’d be on top of it spouting his usual shite
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Hey, glenn! Doing well. But it’s gotten cold here — fast. From mild temps to 16F wild chills tonight!
kesmarn

21 days ago
Kes – Right, that’s why I see this backfiring big time against DWS and Hillary. They really thought this was a way to get rid of Bernie? People hate establishment manipulation of our elections, what fools.
AdLib 21 days ago
Kes–but if the great orange haired one builds a wall around himself, it would be yuuuuge!
glenn

21 days ago
Did you guys see Maddow and the lead water in flint story
Beatlex

21 days ago
It would HAVE to be, glenn.
kesmarn

21 days ago
I read about the water in Flint, Beatlex, but didn’t see Maddow…
kesmarn

21 days ago
glenn – Why don’t we all build a yuuge wall around Trump?
AdLib 21 days ago
Kes–yikes. Cold here, too. 28 and a biting wind, too. Poor PPO is dealing with temps of 116. Not sure which is worse!
glenn

21 days ago
116!! I’ll take the Ohio weather!
kesmarn

21 days ago
106 beats 28 anytime, glenn!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Ad–I hope we can build a wall around trump by our votes, especially if he gets the nom!
glenn

21 days ago
Kes,pretty scary,thousands of kids may have been poisioned.Scheinder is in shit now,one would hope
Beatlex

21 days ago
PPO–I believe you’re right. I don’t like cold weather; I like hot much better!
glenn

21 days ago
Has anyone done the math to see if this eejit could actually get enough votes to be elected, college wise?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Beatlex – Yes, saw part of it today and it is such an outrage. As she mentioned, we knew that this anti-democrtic privatizing of city government with these “managers” would lead to mistreatment of citizens but who would have guessed it would be this horrible, permanently poisoning so many kids and families in the city just to save money? Repubs are the Death Panel.
AdLib 21 days ago
I would hope so, Beatlex. Snyder has virtually destroyed MI. And those kids in Flint — that lead poisoning is not easily undone. Disgraceful.
kesmarn

21 days ago
PPO–do you mean electoral college votes? Have to wait until for the conventions for that, I think, to see who actually gets the nom. I’m sure Ad or Murph can explain it.
glenn

21 days ago
AD,god point,it is disgusting,people should sue!
Beatlex

21 days ago
Oglenn, I mean 106 beats 28 in the DISCOMFORT level!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
PPO – It is a slam dunk that Trump would lose in a GE. Bottom line, he would need around 40% of Latinos to win enough electoral votes and he’d be lucky to get 5%.
AdLib 21 days ago
PPO–see, my “true colors” come through. I’m still a hot weather gal at hear!
glenn

21 days ago
AND the Black vote Ad
Beatlex

21 days ago
“at heart”!
glenn

21 days ago
OK, the Ad. I guess we can just enjoy the GOP tearing itself apart and not worry about the actual elections.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
They seem to go so consistently after water too — whether it’s fracking, coal mining chemicals in rivers, factory farm runoff growing toxic algae in the Great Lakes or lead in the river in Flint. What have they got against H2O?
kesmarn

21 days ago
Kes–it’s not so much the repubs have anything against water. They just have this thing against regulations, because profits, you know!
glenn

21 days ago
kes, they can’t make enough profit out of it
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Beatlex – Yes, not even counting how much of the black vote he’d lose, along with women’s vote, Muslims of course, college students, so many demographics where Trump would lose big, he would lose most if not all swing states.
AdLib 21 days ago
PPO–we may disagree about hot or cold weather, but we both know the repubs well!
glenn

21 days ago
They should take a look at the Nestle Corp., PPO. On second thought — no — they shouldn’t.
kesmarn

21 days ago
glenn
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Ad,MOST of the candidates wouldn’t fare much better
Beatlex

21 days ago
The whole Dem strategy must be to GOT Effin’ V
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Well, if there’s one thing Trump right be good for it’s getting people to the polls. I know people who haven’t voted in a while who are making it a mission to vote against him!
kesmarn

21 days ago
PPO – That’s where I’m at, enjoying the sight of the GOP tearing itself apart and the RNC become gutted. I do try to keep my fellow Dems and Progressives confident at Trump being badly beat in a GE because of the demographics (though it will and should motify us all to GOTV big time). There are only so many old, white males out there, not enough to win any Repub the Presidency anymore.
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad–sure hope trump loses yuuuge if the repubs are stupid enough to nominate him. Perhaps that will finally bring some sanity back to the party. Because losing twice to President Obama has made them lose their ever-lasting minds!
glenn

21 days ago
glenn, the third time’s the Charm. GOP would never recover. Oh, Happ Days, (pleeeease)
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Kes – Repubs look at nature like an adversary, any opportunity to mess with it makes them happy.
AdLib 21 days ago
Trump is developmentally stunted….his greatest fear…being a loser…WHAT WILL THE OTHER KIDS SAY!?
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Ad–remember 2012, when the repubs were all about “anyone but Obama.” 2016 should be all about “anyone but a republican, and especially trump!”
glenn

21 days ago
Murph-no shit hey?
Beatlex

21 days ago
AdLib, it must be because she’s referred to as “Mother Nature” — gotta control and crush “them females.”
kesmarn

21 days ago
If he is Win-challenged he’ll just say he’s the BIGGEST antway and his lawyers will sue the enire USA
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
anyway.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Beatlex – True, even though these early polls show other Repubs close to Hillary, should she win the Dem nom, they’re meaningless. Most voters still don’t know how full of crap all the Repubs are but it would all come out in a GE.
AdLib 21 days ago
PPO–sure hope you’re right. I just don’t see how the repubs can continue as the party of hate. They may survive as a party, but they will definitely have to come up with something other than hate and fear-mongering.
glenn

21 days ago
Couldn’t he just take some pride in being America’s Biggest Loser and retire?
kesmarn

21 days ago
Kes, possibly, but I’;d rather say to him ‘Youre FIRED’!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Kes – Agreed. Just as Hillary was one of the greatest fundraising tools for the GOP for years, Trump will be the greatest GOTV for Dems.
AdLib 21 days ago
Despite their problems…let’s all recall that the GOP outright controls 25 state governments and shares power in 12 others.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Those would be sweet words, PPO.
kesmarn

21 days ago
Kes–nah, he’ll probably join up with Arapio (or however you spell it) to continue looking for the birth certificate!
glenn

21 days ago
glenn… whose? Rubio, Cruz, Clinton? He’s gunna be busy!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Haha! glenn, they’d better start looking for Cruz’s birth certificate. Poor Beatlex and Canada! He might really belong to them!
kesmarn

21 days ago
Murph–you’re right about the repubs controlling so many states. But, even then, I think people MAY be wising up to their antics, because most of those governors don’t seem to be running their states too well.
glenn

21 days ago
glenn – I think it may very well be Trump who wins the Repub nom and if so, “Just Say No to Trump” will be a winning campaign for Dems.
AdLib 21 days ago
glenn,I was born in the same CITY as him!! Calgary,we don’t want him back,sorry!
Beatlex

21 days ago
AdLib, I SO hope you’re right about Trump being their nominee. Even THEY don’t want him. It would be such a gift.
kesmarn

21 days ago
PPO–Why, President Obama’s, of course. Just the other day, araipo introduced trump as his fellow birth certificate hunter!
glenn

21 days ago
Glenn…hope so.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Murph – I think that tide will turn in state governments, that this will be seen as their high water mark.
AdLib 21 days ago
glenn, I suupose it hasnt occurred to them that that horse has left the barn
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Beatlex–We don’t hold it against you that you were born in the same city as the cruz. It’s not your fault, man!
glenn

21 days ago
Ad..hope you are correct..
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Ad–well, it ought to be an interesting convention next summer!
glenn

21 days ago
Beatlex, your new PM is winning hearts here already. Love the way he and Canada have welcomed the Syrian refugees. Signs that say: “We hope you like it here! Welcome!” What a difference from the churlishness that we’ve seen here.
kesmarn

21 days ago
kes. Yes, that’s great. Beat, be proud. Thundering silence from the GOP-style Gummint here on Refugees.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Kes,he is a greenhorn.Won on looks and his family name
Beatlex

21 days ago
My friend in the GOP state party here thinks that Cruz will get the nomination…..as close as the establishment gets to someone who is barely one of their own…and that Trump runs a third party campaign….meltdown follows…Mo. is Tea Party through and through and is over the moon for Trump..
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
PPO–no, conservatives NEVER give up if they get a bizarre idea into their heads! Just look at abortion rights; women’s rights; income inequality, etc., etc.
glenn

21 days ago
Beatlex, that’s interesting! Are you thinking that he might turn out to be a poor choice over time…?
kesmarn

21 days ago
Murph, here’s hoping..
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Murph–so, if MO is tea party through and through, why are they over the moon for trump? Shouldn’t they be supporting cruz?
glenn

21 days ago
Most Repub Govs in purple states are really disliked. Walker is really hated, Rick Snyder poisons kids, Christie closes bridges, only Kasich is doing okay.
AdLib 21 days ago
Did you all see that the GOP State Assembly and Gov. Walker just disbanded the Government Accountability board – and the GOP voted nearly 100 in the state house for it to start with.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
glenn, if that’s right, I see Benghazigate rearing up again…….yikes!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Murph, what about the fact the Cruz has never been able to get along with anyone — from his college roommate to Mitch McConnell? Does that give them pause?
kesmarn

21 days ago
He is surrounded by the old gaurd,they haven’t been in power in 10 yrs. KES
Beatlex

21 days ago
Ad, but they keep surviving recalls, and reelections.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
So how do you think this will go for Trudeau then, Beatlex? Failure inevitable?
kesmarn

21 days ago
Murph–true. It’s one of the things I can’t understand. Do you think it is due to not enough Dems voting in off-year elections?
glenn

21 days ago
Glenn…TP does not necessarily mean evangelical….here it most means angry, disillusioned, anxious….with the Dems absolutely but pretty close with the GOP
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
I have 2 jobs to do,plus errands to run tomorrow,so goodnight,happy Holidays!
Beatlex

21 days ago
G’night, Beatlex! Happy Holidays to you and yours!
kesmarn

21 days ago
Dems are SO undisciplied re.voting and that is the sad story they tell again and in again in off years.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Murph – Remember I was right about Kasich going nowhere? Cruz doesn’t have a state after IA where he would be likely to win. I don’t think he has a great shot at winning. Santorum won IA and it didn’t lead to winning the nom. Trump can win in NH and go on from there. Not saying Cruz can’t win it but it’s not a clear path like Trump’s.
AdLib 21 days ago
What about Rubio, AdLib?
kesmarn

21 days ago
PPO–I don’t think benghazigate is EVER going to go away. That will be one of the main platforms of the gop in the GE, including all of the lies they have been spouting from the beginning. If I were a Dem pol, and anyone brought up Benghazi, I’d refer them to the “bipartisan report” issued a couple of years ago, saying that there was no stand down order; people were sent to help, etc., etc.
glenn

21 days ago
Kes,it is still early,but he has made a few foreign poilicy gaffs. Like saying the Baltics wasn’t a thing” anymore,oops
Beatlex

21 days ago
Ad….yes Kasich makes conservative sense and cannot win….agree….the way out is for there to be a large exodus of candidates so the numbers against Trump could build…could…don’t know if they will.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Beatlex–happy holidays to you as well. Hope to “see” you New Year’s Eve!
glenn

21 days ago
This will be one to watch then, Beatlex! Thanks for the inside info!
kesmarn

21 days ago
Guys, I am dead on my feet. Time to give up the ghost.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Murph – Walker can’t run again and he’s left a trail of wreckage in the state, along with a massive financial mess. Even a ton of Koch money won’t convince WI voters to go Repub again…as long as Dems have a good candidate.
AdLib 21 days ago
Good night, Murph! Have a great weekend.
kesmarn

21 days ago
Night Beatlex and have a Merry Christmas!
AdLib 21 days ago
G’night, Murph. Take care, and have a Merry Christmas!
glenn

21 days ago
Merry Christmas to you all. Have a Happy Holiday…..mirth in the midst of tears for some of us.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Before I say goodnight, just have to ask: is there another Dem debate tomorrow night? With no cable and DWS at the helm of the DNC, it’s hard to know.
kesmarn

21 days ago
Ad–I think that is a lot of the problem in the purple states…”as long as the Dems have a good candidate”. Once again the mismanagement of DWS in not helping states recruit good candidates.
glenn

21 days ago
Ad…is Walker term limited?
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Kes – Rubio is SOOO overrated as a GE challenger against Hillary. All he can do is parrot canned speeches. And he supports killing women instead of letting them have an abortion to save their lives. And he’s an inexperienced war monger. He would implode big time in a GE.
AdLib 21 days ago
That is music to my ears, AdLib!
kesmarn

21 days ago
Kes–don’t think the Dem debate is until January, but Ad or someone else can correct me. Sorry to hear you’re leaving us tonight; have a wonderful Christmas! Hope to “see” you New Year’s Eve!
glenn

21 days ago
Kes – Yes, Dem debate tomorrow nite, we’ll be Live Chatting here!
AdLib 21 days ago
Murph – Yes, Walker is term limited, he’s done after this term.
AdLib 21 days ago
Kes–oops, good thing Ad is around to keep me straight.
glenn

21 days ago
Goodie! Well, I may sign off for now then. Baking Christmas cookies with the Fave tomorrow. Have a great weekend, all!
kesmarn

21 days ago
Have a great weekend and a Merry Christmas, Murph!
AdLib 21 days ago
Maybe you can debate watch with us tomorrow night, glenn!?
kesmarn

21 days ago
Ad…so what do you think Walkers strategy is….
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Kes – Coolio! Enjoy the cookies!!!
AdLib 21 days ago
Will do. Wish I could send a box to the whole Planet.
kesmarn

21 days ago
Murph – Walker is trying to nail the door closed on elections in WI for the GOP, trying to do all he can to deny the next Gov seat to Dems.
AdLib 21 days ago
Kes….nice thought.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Kes–I may be with you all tomorrow night. I can usually watch the Dem debates, but I just can’t stomach the repub ones! I’m going Christmas shopping again tomorrow, so may not be up that late! LOL!
glenn

21 days ago
Ad….makes sense…then what becomes of him.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Kes – Well…you can at least post a photo of them!
AdLib 21 days ago
Does Walker see himself in the House or the Senate? biding his time for another term as governor?
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Murph–Not to be crass, but I hope Walker eats sh@t and dies! Not really, but I hope he just goes away. And, I don’t live anywhere near WI. He’s just another smarmy pol like cruz IMO.
glenn

21 days ago
Murph – I wouldn’t be surprised if Walker went to work for the Kochs’ poilitical operations while waiting to try another run for the Presidency in 4 years. Little does he know that he’ll be yesterday’s garbage by then.
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad–a run by walker for the presidency should be just like jeb’s run….going nowhere fast!
glenn

21 days ago
Walker left the race this year in a way that seems he’s saving himself for another run.
AdLib 21 days ago
Glenn….get your emotional reaction…Ad…that makes sense but as you say he will be tossed aside…he never caught even a spark in the run for Prez
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
glenn – He’s such a trained weasel, he has no hope of winning the WH.
AdLib 21 days ago
Look at Santorum, that’s where Walker will be if he runs again.
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad–and he’s not even trained that well! For a weasel, that is!
glenn

21 days ago
glenn – Well, when you train a weasel on Koch money, that’s what you get.
AdLib 21 days ago
Very frustrating for me not to be able to see debates and comment here
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Ad….Santorum, who came in 2nd last time, is Walker’s tomorrow….hmmm
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
PPO – I think the debate tomorrow night will be on YouTube so you may be able to watch.
AdLib 21 days ago
Here’s hoping, Ad. what time Pacific?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Ad….are you doing a Vox tomorrow for the debate?
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Murph – Exactly. There is a moment where a pol has a shot, a small window, if they’re lucky and it’s timed right, as it was for Obama, they win. Christie had a shot at the nom in 2012 but he was too afraid and though he could be in the same position in 2016. Sorry Christie.
AdLib 21 days ago
Murph or Ad–is it santorum who couldn’t remember the three departments he was going to close, or was that perry? Forwhen some reason, I always get those two mixed up. As my husband used to say, you could shake them up in a bag, and when you opened it, you’d still have the same person.
glenn

21 days ago
Yes Murph, we’ll be having a live chat for tomorrow’s debate!
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad, a bridge too far, maybe?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
glenn – Yes, that was Rick Perry last year…and Ted Cruz did it this year!
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad…and now Christie is trying to bully Putin as Trump makes cutesy pie with him
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Ad….good….maybe I will be awke by then.
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
PPO – Heh! That bridge to the WH is shutdown for Christie now!
AdLib 21 days ago
Ok..this really is it. Ta!
MurphTheSurf3

21 days ago
Ad–okay, thanks for the clarification. Maybe cruz should have borrowed perry’s glasses.
glenn

21 days ago
Merry Christmas, Murph!
glenn

21 days ago
Murph – How desperate is Christie saying he’ll start WW III by shooting down Russian planes? It would be funnier if it wasn’t so pathetic.
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad, I still chuckle about our Bridge poetry article!
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
‘Night, Murph. Than ks for everything
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Night Murph! See you tomorrow night!
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad–christie thinks we’re already in WWIII. That is one scary individual!
glenn

21 days ago
PPO – Yep, that was fun! About time for another post like that!
AdLib 21 days ago
glenn – Christie is in WW III against his beltline.
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad, Yes! Maybe the next GOP debate?
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
My turn. Merry Christmas everyone. Don’t know if I’ll make it for the debate tomorrow night; so hope to see you all New Year’s Eve. Will we be rocking with Anderson and whatshername?
glenn

21 days ago
PPO – Sounds good!
AdLib 21 days ago
Take care glenn. thank you for your kindness.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
glenn – Actually, our next Vox will be on New Year’s Night, not Eve but we’ll still be rockin’!
AdLib 21 days ago
Have a great weekend, glenn! Hug that granddaughter!
AdLib 21 days ago
Will do, Ad. Oops, sorry about New Year’s Eve. Anyway, take care!
glenn

21 days ago
Night glenn!
AdLib 21 days ago
Well, looks like it’s that time to close up the Vox bar for the night but we’ll be back here tomorrow night for the debate!
AdLib 21 days ago
Well, better let you and Beatlex get some zzzzzs. Take care and thank you all for your kindness. I’ve got a few calls to make to england. Not looking forward to them
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Take care, PPO. Don’t doubt that you have friends here who will be thinking of you.
AdLib 21 days ago
Ad, I’m truly humbled. we have a grand community here. God Bless for now.
pinkpantheroz

21 days ago
Sorry you have to go through this now. Sending my best thoughts your way.
AdLib 21 days ago
Wow, the planet is behaving very strangely tonight.
KillgoreTrout

20 days ago

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