Vox Populi – 6-12-2015

It’s been another big week with so much to discuss. Jeb Bush’s campaign is hanging up the banner, “MISSION UNACCOMPLISHED”, the people of Cleveland won one step toward justice in the murder of Tamir Rice, the TPP is nearly RIP after losing today, and so much more. Our live chat begins right here at 7:00 pm PDT, hope to see you then!

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey glenn!

AdLib 7 days ago

No, I missed it. Pretty exciting?

AdLib 7 days ago

I figured as much, she loves soccer doesn’t she?

AdLib 7 days ago

Maybe one day…

AdLib 7 days ago

Absolutely! Moms and Dads get that privilege too!

AdLib 7 days ago

It’s great for kids to have a sport that they enjoy, makes them better people…and keeps them away from trouble when they get older.

AdLib 7 days ago

How old is she again?

AdLib 7 days ago

Cool! My daughter will be 12 next week. They should play soccer together! Except we’re in LA.

AdLib 7 days ago

I think it’s going to be a long, bumpy road for Jebby and nothing could make me happier. What’s clear is that it was just propaganda when they used to say that he was “the smart one”. He’s a fool in his own way.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – There’s a mighty low bar on display in the Bush house.

AdLib 7 days ago

Heh! No I missed that! Did you see that a self-described uninvolved party in the pool raid was on Fox News claiming there were no racial slurs made and it turned out her and his family were the ones who did it?

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey Sabreen!

AdLib 7 days ago

I’m very pleased that the community in Cleveland brought the murder of Tamir to that judge who quickly agreed there should be a prosecution of the cops. That should put some serious pressure on that ass of a DA.

AdLib 7 days ago

Whoops, she left before I could respond! That was nice of her to pop in and say hey!

AdLib 7 days ago

And what about the Dems shooting down the TPP today? It ain’t over yet but that was cool! I’m afraid though that they are too willing to bargain to get other things and will approve it next week.

AdLib 7 days ago

That’s what I’m hoping, that the GJ will be influenced by the judges finding. I do think that like other DAs, this one won’t make a convincing case on purpose to them as he seeks to let the cops off for murder.

AdLib 7 days ago

What they shot down was a companion bill that is a “must have” for Dems to approve the TPP if it gets Fast Track. So the TPP would be sunk if that didn’t pass. But Repubs have used a procedural trick to bring it up again for a vote next week. In the meantime, they could horse trade with Dems who might agree in the end. That could be short term gains for long term disaster.

AdLib 7 days ago

That companion bill is a fund for training workers who lose their jobs due to the TPP. Proof of course that Americans will lose jobs because of the TPP.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – I think it’s that Blue Mafia thing, the DAs work closely with police on criminal prosecutions so as a whole, they refuse to ever prosecute police except in the rarest of situations.

AdLib 7 days ago

Well, yes because Repubs know that the trade off is so much in their favor. The small amount put into retraining compared to the billions that corporations will get from this deal, works for them.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – Yep, just saw the video again today and it’s insane. No legit cop would drive right up to a suspect and shoot while the car is still moving. They would park a little distance away and begin to deal with the situation. No way that is police policy, it’s insane!

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – Absolutely, that will fall hard on the GOP and then get worse as they struggle fruitlessly to fix the disaster they caused. But I still hope that at least Roberts will fear enough being blamed for the deaths of thousands of Americans and millions suffering ruining his legacy as Chief Justice, so he won’t vote with the other four fanatics.

AdLib 7 days ago

Got it!

AdLib 7 days ago

There are a few things that happened this week that gives one a little hope. The Tamir news, stopping the TPP, Jebby in a tailspin…but I am amazed that every week there’s always plenty of crappy things happening.

AdLib 7 days ago

Angie Baby, haven’t heard that one in a while!

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – It’s true, most Americans now know that the Repubs have been lying all along and if they win this case against the ACA, the suffering of millions of Americans will land solely in their lap. And I personally doubt a solution will be offered. I heard they have one cynical plan now, try to pass a temporary continuation bill that also contains poison to ruin the rest of the ACA so that by the time the temp period is over, the ACA has been completely destroyed.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – Yes, there have been some encouraging things happening like that. But at this point, having a cop resign after physically abusing a 14 year old girl isn’t my ideal of good news. It’s what we have to settle for in these very corrupt times.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – I don’t think a majority of Americans will buy into the concept that the party that was behind the lawsuit to kill the ACA and have voted over 50 times to kill it, really will be trying to help the program.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – Of course the TP Sheep will follow any BS laid down by the GOP but the majority isn’t that stupid, they can’t be convinced that the GOP wants to rescue the ACA. That’s a bridge to far.

AdLib 7 days ago

Yep, a bridge way the hell too far.

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey Funk!

AdLib 7 days ago

I think a bunch of folks are celebrating graduations and such tonight.

AdLib 7 days ago

Lots of graduations this week.

AdLib 7 days ago

I don’t know about you two but I am so looking forward to Jeb announcing that he wants to run for Head GOPBall!

AdLib 7 days ago

Funk – I really can’t wait for the first debate! Are they holding it in the center of a rodeo?

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – Sorry, popped away for a sec. What’s your idea for a post?

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey PPO!

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Funk – I find it Anbarable.

AdLib 7 days ago

Have a great weekend glenn, thanks for getting the party started too!

AdLib 7 days ago

I think Jebby shoul announce in a way that reflects his campaign. He should come down a short hallway then stuble and fall before he gets to the podium.

AdLib 7 days ago

I see Jeb as bewildered that the nom isn’t just being handed to him. Like Georgie, two silver spooned brats who feel entitled.

AdLib 7 days ago

Funk – Doesn’t Jeb just have that expression of someone who wore a clown costume to a formal dinner?

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – That’s why I can hardly wait for the debates. Because they will each have little time to talk, they’re all going to have to make the most of every moment and get as outrageous as they can. They could sell it on PPV!

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – The Repubs won’t go after Huckabee and others for siding with child molesters but if one of them gets the nom, you bet they will be hammered.

AdLib 7 days ago

I see a debate as being a contest of desperation. Funk, I think you’re right, Santorum bites the head off of a hamster then Rick Perry will shoot an rabbit on stage, then Huckabee will perform a wild exorcism on the audience…it will be a game of Toppers, where each will have to top the other.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – Government sponsored human trafficking? Holy mackeral! I’ll bet Repubs are kicking themselves that they didn’t think of it first. They just went with self-deportation last time, how comparatively lame!

AdLib 7 days ago

Wonder if Abbott will try to smuggle voters opposing him out of the country before an election.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – Brilliant! And if for some reason they run out of fuel in bad weather and they’re essentially killed by the government? Will it matter since they’re not Aussies?

AdLib 7 days ago

Same thing here, PPO. Repubs are fine with wealthy “furaners” moving to the US, just not the poor ones with cantalope calves.

AdLib 7 days ago

Funk – Well, Father’s Day is coming up, you can always hint about it to the family.

AdLib 7 days ago

Funk – Pretty much, money talks, poor immigrants walk.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – So true and body cameras on cops will make it even better.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – Consider that cops know that even caught red handed shooting a kid, they won’t be prosecuted. So they’re not worried about being caught on video.

AdLib 7 days ago

Nice one, Funk!

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – Unfortunately, I think it’s just temporary. Repubs have used a procedure to bring that measure to another vote next week and it sounds like Dems will negotiate other things they want in exchange for voting for it next week. Worried about the short-sightedness here, Dems could get a little of what they want in the short term for long term economic destruction.

AdLib 7 days ago

Funk – Very cool. Mine is at a birthday party sleepover tonight.

AdLib 7 days ago

Funk _ I’m afraid that’s exactly what’s going to happen here unless enough of us email and call our reps.

AdLib 7 days ago

I just don’t understand how Dems who aren’t in red states think that any deal they make that cuts Medicare, even though they hope the cut will be replaced in a companion bill, is something they can walk away from. Not to mention all the soverignty the TPP gives away. It’s kind of crazy.

AdLib 7 days ago

I really don’t understand Obama’s push on this. I know he sees it as a big deal for his legacy but it will be a legacy of the lowering of the standard of living of Americans.

AdLib 7 days ago

True but the TPP is very conservative, hence the huge support from the GOP.

AdLib 7 days ago

Funk – I do indeed remember that. When he first took office, he had a singular opportunity to reshape the banks and the economy and the recovery so the 99% came first…and he chose to reinforce and double down on the unfair system we have that led to that crash. Such a massive opportunity lost.

AdLib 7 days ago

The CFPB was probably in his mind, a small safety net he could build under the awful system we have that he didn’t want to disturb.

AdLib 7 days ago

So true, I think one of the biggest cancers in American society is the smothering of justice. People rarely see it anywhere. The military tortures at Presidential request, nothing happens to them. Banks destroy the economy through fraud and take millions of peoples’ life savings and homes, nothing happens to them. Cops murder innocent teenagers, nothing happens to them. It eats away at the soul.

AdLib 7 days ago

Funk – I just think that Americans are too distracted nowadays to step up as they should, things will need to get very bad again before they push for real change. Sad but that’s what it looks like.

AdLib 7 days ago

…no one goes to jail.

AdLib 7 days ago

I call it fearful…and, to be frank, cowardice. They want to bury their heads in the sand and hope miracles happen because it’s scary to them to stand up against such daunting forces.

AdLib 7 days ago

The orders come down from the top, Obama doesn’t want to put financial criminals in jail, he wants their support in the end. He isn’t a bad guy, probably sees himself as pragmatic on this but his disinterest in justice in this area is not good for the nation.

AdLib 7 days ago

Funk – FIFA is indeed a reflection of the same Corrupt Capitalism that has been destroying lives and futures here…and exciting Repubs to do far worse.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – I think it would go a long way to scaring bankers away from criminal behavior to see their fellow bankers being thrown in prison for 20 years.

AdLib 7 days ago

Agreed, excellent analogy, PPO. In fact, the refs don’t have any red cards in their pocket, just deposit slips.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – My point is, if the top execs weren’t allowed to get away with crimes, if the DoJ held those in charge of those people called corporations as responsible for the crimes of their “person”, things would change quickly.

AdLib 7 days ago

Have a great weekend, Funk!

AdLib 7 days ago

Well PPO, looks like it’s about that time to close the Vox bar for the night. Have a great weekend and try not to get sold into white slavery by Abbott.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – To me, it’s totally worth it and the Feds should sue the banks to get the money back.

AdLib 7 days ago