It’s been another big week with so much to discuss. Jeb Bush’s campaign is hanging up the banner, “MISSION UNACCOMPLISHED”, the people of Cleveland won one step toward justice in the murder of Tamir Rice, the TPP is nearly RIP after losing today, and so much more. Our live chat begins right here at 7:00 pm PDT, hope to see you then!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad–did you watch the USA-Sweden soccer game?
glenn
7 days ago
No, I missed it. Pretty exciting?
AdLib 7 days ago
Really good! Ended in a tie, but it certainly was exciting to watch! My granddaughter is really into this series.
glenn
7 days ago
I figured as much, she loves soccer doesn’t she?
AdLib 7 days ago
Maybe one day…
AdLib 7 days ago
Yes, she does. She’s getting pretty good at it, too. Of course, I may be a little biased, but that’s a grandmother’s privilege!
glenn
7 days ago
Absolutely! Moms and Dads get that privilege too!
AdLib 7 days ago
True dat!
glenn
7 days ago
It’s great for kids to have a sport that they enjoy, makes them better people…and keeps them away from trouble when they get older.
AdLib 7 days ago
How old is she again?
AdLib 7 days ago
That’s what my daughter believes too. She’ll be 12 in August, sometimes going on 42!
glenn
7 days ago
So, what do you think about jebbie? Is he or isn’t he?
glenn
7 days ago
Cool! My daughter will be 12 next week. They should play soccer together! Except we’re in LA.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yea, that’s a helluva long pass!
glenn
7 days ago
I think it’s going to be a long, bumpy road for Jebby and nothing could make me happier. What’s clear is that it was just propaganda when they used to say that he was “the smart one”. He’s a fool in his own way.
AdLib 7 days ago
Perhaps he was just considered the “smart one” in comparison to shrub.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – There’s a mighty low bar on display in the Bush house.
AdLib 7 days ago
Which means that anyone is “smart”. Speaking of smart, did you see the “I Support Law Inforsement” sign?
glenn
7 days ago
Heh! No I missed that! Did you see that a self-described uninvolved party in the pool raid was on Fox News claiming there were no racial slurs made and it turned out her and his family were the ones who did it?
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Sabreen!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–so does that surprise you that a bigot would go on fox and lie?
glenn
7 days ago
Hey Sabreen!
glenn
7 days ago
Hi folks. Not staying. I have to get up almost before dawn to be on time for a morning high school graduation. So I hope the convo is good tonight. Take care and see you the next time.
Sabreen60
7 days ago
Hi and goodbye, Sabreen. Enjoy the graduation! Who’s graduating?
glenn
7 days ago
glenn, My son’s significant other’s daughter.
Sabreen60
7 days ago
I’m very pleased that the community in Cleveland brought the murder of Tamir to that judge who quickly agreed there should be a prosecution of the cops. That should put some serious pressure on that ass of a DA.
AdLib 7 days ago
Sabreen–congrats to the grad!
glenn
7 days ago
Whoops, she left before I could respond! That was nice of her to pop in and say hey!
AdLib 7 days ago
And what about the Dems shooting down the TPP today? It ain’t over yet but that was cool! I’m afraid though that they are too willing to bargain to get other things and will approve it next week.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–seems as though the ass of a DA is going to pass the buck on to the grand jury. However, even if the prosecutor doesn’t press too hard for an indictment, the grand jury has to consider what the judge says about the case. I mean, c’mon. pull up, shoot, done!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–I’m not too sure on the “mechanics” of TPP, but didn’t they just shoot down the “fast track”? Which means, I think, that TPP is still alive, albeit on life support, and has to still get approval from Congress.
glenn
7 days ago
That’s what I’m hoping, that the GJ will be influenced by the judges finding. I do think that like other DAs, this one won’t make a convincing case on purpose to them as he seeks to let the cops off for murder.
AdLib 7 days ago
I just don’t get it, Ad. One would think that prosecutors would want these “rogue” cops out of policing, so these cases don’t keep coming up. However, if the prosecutors keep downplaying the cops’ behaviors, I guess it’s no big deal to them.
glenn
7 days ago
What they shot down was a companion bill that is a “must have” for Dems to approve the TPP if it gets Fast Track. So the TPP would be sunk if that didn’t pass. But Repubs have used a procedural trick to bring it up again for a vote next week. In the meantime, they could horse trade with Dems who might agree in the end. That could be short term gains for long term disaster.
AdLib 7 days ago
That companion bill is a fund for training workers who lose their jobs due to the TPP. Proof of course that Americans will lose jobs because of the TPP.
AdLib 7 days ago
So, let me get this straight. Republicans are actually willing to fund training for workers?
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – I think it’s that Blue Mafia thing, the DAs work closely with police on criminal prosecutions so as a whole, they refuse to ever prosecute police except in the rarest of situations.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–so isn’t this case in Cleveland the “rarest of situations”? Once again, the cop did nothing but pull up and shoot!
glenn
7 days ago
Well, yes because Repubs know that the trade off is so much in their favor. The small amount put into retraining compared to the billions that corporations will get from this deal, works for them.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–okay, I guess that makes sense. On another subject, do you really think the repubs will get the “blame” if the subsidies for the ACA are cut? Do you think the American people will finally get it? And will that finally translate into lazy people getting out to vote?
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Yep, just saw the video again today and it’s insane. No legit cop would drive right up to a suspect and shoot while the car is still moving. They would park a little distance away and begin to deal with the situation. No way that is police policy, it’s insane!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I agtee; it’s insane, but that seems to becoming the “norm” lately. “It’s so nice to be insane, no one asks you to explain.” (Helen Reddy in “Delta Dawn”)
glenn
7 days ago
Oops, may not be from Delta Dawn, but it is from a song!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Absolutely, that will fall hard on the GOP and then get worse as they struggle fruitlessly to fix the disaster they caused. But I still hope that at least Roberts will fear enough being blamed for the deaths of thousands of Americans and millions suffering ruining his legacy as Chief Justice, so he won’t vote with the other four fanatics.
AdLib 7 days ago
Got it!
AdLib 7 days ago
Just looked it up; it’s from Angie Baby, by Helen Reddy.
glenn
7 days ago
There are a few things that happened this week that gives one a little hope. The Tamir news, stopping the TPP, Jebby in a tailspin…but I am amazed that every week there’s always plenty of crappy things happening.
AdLib 7 days ago
Angie Baby, haven’t heard that one in a while!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–Remember, all along, we here at the Planet and other Dems, have been saying that we couldn’t wait for the ACA to start working, because all of the repubs’ lies would be exposed. And they have been! It’s one thing to try to repeal the law, but now that people have insurance, they are now trying to repeal people’s lives! Shameful asshats!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–you’re correct; I should try to look on the positive side. Another good thing is that cop in TX resigned, and the teacher who went on a rant about going back to segregation actually got fired!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – It’s true, most Americans now know that the Repubs have been lying all along and if they win this case against the ACA, the suffering of millions of Americans will land solely in their lap. And I personally doubt a solution will be offered. I heard they have one cynical plan now, try to pass a temporary continuation bill that also contains poison to ruin the rest of the ACA so that by the time the temp period is over, the ACA has been completely destroyed.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – Yes, there have been some encouraging things happening like that. But at this point, having a cop resign after physically abusing a 14 year old girl isn’t my ideal of good news. It’s what we have to settle for in these very corrupt times.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–yes, I’ve heard a little about that plan. Their “strategy” is that once PBO vetoes (sp) the bill, as he is sure to do, then they’ll place the blame on him once again for vetoing subsidies. They’re such idiots!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–The cop resigning is good news in that the cop resigned instead of defending himself, like the cop in Cleveland.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – I don’t think a majority of Americans will buy into the concept that the party that was behind the lawsuit to kill the ACA and have voted over 50 times to kill it, really will be trying to help the program.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–you know, before the tea party, I would have agreed with you. But somehow, some way, you can be sure that some repub/tpartier asshat will come out with some convuluted reason why it’s PBO’s fault for sabotaging his own signature achievement. And lots of the idiot t/partiers will agree with him/her.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–didn’t read your post carefully enough. You’re correct, a “majority” of Americans won’t buy into the repubs bullshit.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Of course the TP Sheep will follow any BS laid down by the GOP but the majority isn’t that stupid, they can’t be convinced that the GOP wants to rescue the ACA. That’s a bridge to far.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–a bridge to nowhere?
glenn
7 days ago
Hey Funk–how goes it?
glenn
7 days ago
Yep, a bridge way the hell too far.
AdLib 7 days ago
Good, just hanging with my son
funksands
7 days ago
Hey Funk!
AdLib 7 days ago
Funk–nice. How old is your son?
glenn
7 days ago
I think a bunch of folks are celebrating graduations and such tonight.
AdLib 7 days ago
Almost 11!
funksands
7 days ago
Hi Ad
funksands
7 days ago
Ad–must be so. I was wondering where everyone is.
glenn
7 days ago
Hell with them. Losers
funksands
7 days ago
Lots of graduations this week.
AdLib 7 days ago
My kids in school another week.
funksands
7 days ago
Now, funk, be nice! On second thought, just be yourself.
glenn
7 days ago
🙂
funksands
7 days ago
Glenn, how are you this fine day?
funksands
7 days ago
Ad, I have a suggestion for a post not too far in the future.
funksands
7 days ago
I don’t know about you two but I am so looking forward to Jeb announcing that he wants to run for Head GOPBall!
AdLib 7 days ago
In another month or two, nearly all of the candidates for the GOP will have announced or will be close to it.
funksands
7 days ago
They are running for 1 of 3 reasons:
funksands
7 days ago
Funk–doing quite well, thanks. Spent all week with my granddaughter and her cousin, who isn’t my granddaughter, but calls me “Mimi” anyway. And I love it. They’re a riot together. Played a marathon game of Uno, which lasted for a span of three days, with time out for other things. But it still was a marathon game!
glenn
7 days ago
1. To be President 2. To get a job on FOX 3. To keep from sliding onto the conservative D list (i.e. book, speaking fees etc) It would be great to have a prediction contest
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – I really can’t wait for the first debate! Are they holding it in the center of a rodeo?
AdLib 7 days ago
Holy cow! That is a long game! Was it to the death?
funksands
7 days ago
Ad–since all of the candidacy announcements have been so hokey, I am looking forward to what jebbie will pull out of his ass for his announcement!
glenn
7 days ago
Lol, that would be fitting wouldn’t it?
funksands
7 days ago
Glenn, rest assured it will be awkward and he’ll try too hard.
funksands
7 days ago
Funk–more like a fizzle. Because the “winner” didn’t say “Uno” before she put her last card down, so she didn’t really win. But we ended the game anyway.
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn, that’s a fizzle for sure. Sounds like everyone surrendered
funksands
7 days ago
Funk–do you think Barbara and the shrub will be there?
glenn
7 days ago
Funk–yup–not with a bang, but with a whimper!
glenn
7 days ago
I doubt it, Glenn mom hasn’t been feeling too well and having W there isn’t a good optic
funksands
7 days ago
Funk–aw, c’mon. Wouldn’t you like to see shrub in his codpiece one more time?
glenn
7 days ago
Wouldn’t that be awesome if he was in his flight suit! HA!
funksands
7 days ago
Hey PPO, how are you?
glenn
7 days ago
Everyone excited about our new military base in Anbar Province?
funksands
7 days ago
PPO – Sorry, popped away for a sec. What’s your idea for a post?
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 7 days ago
Oh, its up above.
funksands
7 days ago
I am sorry to hear that Barbara isn’t feeling well. I don’t wish her any ill.
glenn
7 days ago
She’s not a very nice person I understand, but like you I don’t wish her ill. I’m sure her grandkids and great-grandkids love her
funksands
7 days ago
Somehow…
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – I find it Anbarable.
AdLib 7 days ago
Okay, folks, now that a few more “peeps” are here, I’ve got to go. My kids are coming over early tomorrow to do some redecorating, so I’ve gotta go! Take care everyone, and have a great weekend.
glenn
7 days ago
Funk–LOL!
glenn
7 days ago
Have a great weekend glenn, thanks for getting the party started too!
AdLib 7 days ago
I think Jebby shoul announce in a way that reflects his campaign. He should come down a short hallway then stuble and fall before he gets to the podium.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, I would pay a dollar to see that. I get the impression that Jeb is regretting this whole mess more and more every day. I don’t think he has much interest in being President
funksands
7 days ago
The answer to the famous Roger Mudd question would be “Just bowing to the inevitable Roger”
funksands
7 days ago
I see Jeb as bewildered that the nom isn’t just being handed to him. Like Georgie, two silver spooned brats who feel entitled.
AdLib 7 days ago
Bewildered is a good word for those two
funksands
7 days ago
Hi, everyone. Ad, it was funk’s suggestion for a post. I’ve just signed in and am catching up
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Funk – Doesn’t Jeb just have that expression of someone who wore a clown costume to a formal dinner?
AdLib 7 days ago
I’m still holding out hope that Donald Trump actually runs. That would fill my heart with song.
funksands
7 days ago
funk, and everyone else’s, but for the comedy!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad, he really does. He reminds me of someone who just woke up from a nap and isn’t quite sure where he is.
funksands
7 days ago
Ad, funk, all the candidates look like they’ve just joined the circus and can’t get the routines down at all.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO, watching Lindsey Graham, Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina try to out-bloodlust each other on stage would be awesome
funksands
7 days ago
PPO, good analogy
funksands
7 days ago
There are so many clowns in the Ring, you can’t keep up with who is more outlandish that the others.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Speaking of clowns, hows your Aussie clown doing? I really appreciate you electing Rick Perry so we don’t have to.
funksands
7 days ago
I must say I’ve been following with horrified awe, the machinations of the Duggar/Hastert/Paul spin on criminality that is the fundamental part of the GOP.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – That’s why I can hardly wait for the debates. Because they will each have little time to talk, they’re all going to have to make the most of every moment and get as outrageous as they can. They could sell it on PPV!
AdLib 7 days ago
“Governor Jindal, how would you solve the Middle East? You have 7 seconds for your response. Governor Christie, you will have 4 seconds for a rebuttal”
funksands
7 days ago
PPO – The Repubs won’t go after Huckabee and others for siding with child molesters but if one of them gets the nom, you bet they will be hammered.
AdLib 7 days ago
Someone is bound to bite the head off a small animal to make a point.
funksands
7 days ago
Oh, funk, Tony ‘the Monk’ Abbott keeps shooting himself in the foot. This week it came out that the Aussie Border Services PAID people smugglers to return the refugees to indonesia! they may now be accused of people smuggling themselves!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
O M G That’s very interesting.
funksands
7 days ago
I see a debate as being a contest of desperation. Funk, I think you’re right, Santorum bites the head off of a hamster then Rick Perry will shoot an rabbit on stage, then Huckabee will perform a wild exorcism on the audience…it will be a game of Toppers, where each will have to top the other.
AdLib 7 days ago
All to find out Who Run Bartertown
funksands
7 days ago
Woe to the candidate that tries to pull a “Huntsman” and sound rational
funksands
7 days ago
Yes, Ad, and Cheney and Rummy will be there with shotguns to keep the peace!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – Government sponsored human trafficking? Holy mackeral! I’ll bet Repubs are kicking themselves that they didn’t think of it first. They just went with self-deportation last time, how comparatively lame!
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO, when are they going to force another election?
funksands
7 days ago
LOL
funksands
7 days ago
that’s not all! the Aussie gummint has purchased a load of lifeboats, so they can load refugees into them from sinking smuggle boats with just enough fuel to get back to Papua New Giunea or Indonesia, but not the Aussie Mainland.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Wonder if Abbott will try to smuggle voters opposing him out of the country before an election.
AdLib 7 days ago
With just enough gas to get to NZealand
funksands
7 days ago
Wouldn’t surprise me, Ad. It’s batshit crazy here nowadays.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Man, Pink that guy really hates brown folks
funksands
7 days ago
PPO – Brilliant! And if for some reason they run out of fuel in bad weather and they’re essentially killed by the government? Will it matter since they’re not Aussies?
AdLib 7 days ago
Pink, it surprised me a few years ago to find out how many Aussies have a right-wing streak lurking below the surface. I haven’t met any so I assumed they didn’t exist.
funksands
7 days ago
funk, anyone who is poor is in his sights. ‘Refugees” with lots of money can walk in!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ah. Good point
funksands
7 days ago
We’ve had embedded racism since the First Fleet arrived, thanks to the Good Old British Empire, y’know
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Same thing here, PPO. Repubs are fine with wealthy “furaners” moving to the US, just not the poor ones with cantalope calves.
AdLib 7 days ago
My favorite line is when he called viginity “the greatest gift you can give someone”. LOL awesome
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – Well, Father’s Day is coming up, you can always hint about it to the family.
AdLib 7 days ago
Build walls against the Mexicans, invite in more Indian coders
funksands
7 days ago
Do you know what the best thing to happen in the USA to counteract racism is, IMO? The phone camera.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Funk – Pretty much, money talks, poor immigrants walk.
AdLib 7 days ago
Fuink, who said that about virginity?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – So true and body cameras on cops will make it even better.
AdLib 7 days ago
Abbot did Pink
funksands
7 days ago
Right, Ad. It still amazes me that cops continue to beat up and bash susoects even though they MUST know there is CCTV and cameras everywhere these days.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
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funksands
7 days ago
Wow, funk. I didn’t read that! Well, I’m not surprised what shite flows from his mealy mouth.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – Consider that cops know that even caught red handed shooting a kid, they won’t be prosecuted. So they’re not worried about being caught on video.
AdLib 7 days ago
funksands
7 days ago
Nice one, Funk!
AdLib 7 days ago
I see the Trade Bill has been blocked. Sigh of relief from here. Not one of the President’s better ideas.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Good one, funk
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
What’s scary, is that cops probably haven’t changed all that much. We’re just simply more aware of their behavior. That’s what keeps me awake at night
funksands
7 days ago
well, funk, it just helps to highlight a problem that was always there, but never evidence to prove it. Maybe now those racist cops will start to back off a bit.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
BRB, coffee time!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – Unfortunately, I think it’s just temporary. Repubs have used a procedure to bring that measure to another vote next week and it sounds like Dems will negotiate other things they want in exchange for voting for it next week. Worried about the short-sightedness here, Dems could get a little of what they want in the short term for long term economic destruction.
AdLib 7 days ago
watching the final episode of Phineas and Ferb with the kiddo
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – Very cool. Mine is at a birthday party sleepover tonight.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, something similar happened with the repeal of Glass-Steagall. It got voted down, but once “concessions” were put in the bill, they ended up voting for it
funksands
7 days ago
Funk _ I’m afraid that’s exactly what’s going to happen here unless enough of us email and call our reps.
AdLib 7 days ago
My Senators are unfortunately already long in the bag on this one. My rep is waffling a bit
funksands
7 days ago
He was super-for it several weeks ago, but I think the pressure is starting to wear him down. I think he’ll vote no
funksands
7 days ago
I just don’t understand how Dems who aren’t in red states think that any deal they make that cuts Medicare, even though they hope the cut will be replaced in a companion bill, is something they can walk away from. Not to mention all the soverignty the TPP gives away. It’s kind of crazy.
AdLib 7 days ago
The reactions to Obama’s support for this bill are fascinating. Liberals are “outraged” at his support for the bill, and Democrats are “outraged” that liberals are “outraged” at their President.
funksands
7 days ago
Obama has never, ever shown himself to be anything but an economic heterodox. He’s been nothing but centrist mainstream since he came into office.
funksands
7 days ago
I really don’t understand Obama’s push on this. I know he sees it as a big deal for his legacy but it will be a legacy of the lowering of the standard of living of Americans.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, remember that piece I wrote 3-4 years ago? “Obama c
funksands
7 days ago
“Obama Culture Warrior”?
funksands
7 days ago
True but the TPP is very conservative, hence the huge support from the GOP.
AdLib 7 days ago
I haven’t changed my pov one bit since then.
funksands
7 days ago
Obama is very progressive on many many issues. The economy is not one of them.
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – I do indeed remember that. When he first took office, he had a singular opportunity to reshape the banks and the economy and the recovery so the 99% came first…and he chose to reinforce and double down on the unfair system we have that led to that crash. Such a massive opportunity lost.
AdLib 7 days ago
The CFPB is the only nod in the opposite direction that I can think of offhand. Nearly everything else of substance was contained in the Stimulus. Since then, nothing.
funksands
7 days ago
And don’t get me started on how the Justice Dept has handled banks and other financial firms. That is 1 of 2 utter failures of this administration.
funksands
7 days ago
Which comparatively light years ahead of the previous 5 Presidents, but not objectively good enough.
funksands
7 days ago
The CFPB was probably in his mind, a small safety net he could build under the awful system we have that he didn’t want to disturb.
AdLib 7 days ago
But maybe my standards are too high for a budding plutocracy
funksands
7 days ago
The local grassroots, which is healthier than it has been in some time is going to have to grow up quick
funksands
7 days ago
So true, I think one of the biggest cancers in American society is the smothering of justice. People rarely see it anywhere. The military tortures at Presidential request, nothing happens to them. Banks destroy the economy through fraud and take millions of peoples’ life savings and homes, nothing happens to them. Cops murder innocent teenagers, nothing happens to them. It eats away at the soul.
AdLib 7 days ago
Funk – I just think that Americans are too distracted nowadays to step up as they should, things will need to get very bad again before they push for real change. Sad but that’s what it looks like.
AdLib 7 days ago
and launder cartel drug money, and screw with global interest rates, and ignore global sanctions, and ….
funksands
7 days ago
Well they’re also vulnerable. Financially vulnerable people don’t have the time or WILLINGNESS to address big, hard problems. Again, “don’t disturb them”. Everyone just crosses their fingers that the raving lunatic that lives three houses down has finally had enough victims
funksands
7 days ago
…no one goes to jail.
AdLib 7 days ago
I call it fearful…and, to be frank, cowardice. They want to bury their heads in the sand and hope miracles happen because it’s scary to them to stand up against such daunting forces.
AdLib 7 days ago
The Loretta Lynch nomination confirmed exactly what I already knew. This woman spearheaded an airtight case against the biggest criminal enterprise on earth, HSBC and she DELIBERATELY made sure that no one was held criminally liable.
funksands
7 days ago
Then she was nominated for AG and I threw up in my mouth. God help FIFA though, she means business when it comes to sports
funksands
7 days ago
The orders come down from the top, Obama doesn’t want to put financial criminals in jail, he wants their support in the end. He isn’t a bad guy, probably sees himself as pragmatic on this but his disinterest in justice in this area is not good for the nation.
AdLib 7 days ago
Isn’t the drama at FIFA a perfect example of what’s wrong with the GOP?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad, that is perfectly said. Couldn’t add anything more to it unfortunately.
funksands
7 days ago
Sorry Pink,
funksands
7 days ago
You caught us commiserating LOL
funksands
7 days ago
Ad, I just don’t see what he alone could do about it. the main problem seems ti be that the financial sector is so important to the American Economy that for them to jail the big shots would ruin Wall street totally? or maybe that’s what they want him to think
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Pink, I think giant fines are the governments way to say “Hey we’re in charge” while what it really says is “hey this is the worst that’s going to happen to you, sorry for the inconvenience”
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – FIFA is indeed a reflection of the same Corrupt Capitalism that has been destroying lives and futures here…and exciting Repubs to do far worse.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yes, Ad. Lots of Yellow Cards for the bakers, no red ones!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – I think it would go a long way to scaring bankers away from criminal behavior to see their fellow bankers being thrown in prison for 20 years.
AdLib 7 days ago
Oooh. Good analogy
funksands
7 days ago
Ad, the top guys would get away, giving the Justice Dept. sacrificialk lambs to the slaughter.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Agreed, excellent analogy, PPO. In fact, the refs don’t have any red cards in their pocket, just deposit slips.
AdLib 7 days ago
Well guys, I’ve got to toddle off. Thanks for being there tonight. Looking forward to seeing you again!
funksands
7 days ago
Ad, or Swiss Bank Accounts!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Cheerio, funk. Take care.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad, enjoy your night off. Pink, enjoy your beautiful fall night!
funksands
7 days ago
PPO – My point is, if the top execs weren’t allowed to get away with crimes, if the DoJ held those in charge of those people called corporations as responsible for the crimes of their “person”, things would change quickly.
AdLib 7 days ago
Have a great weekend, Funk!
AdLib 7 days ago
Good point Ad, but the teflon Wankers would appeal and appeal and more billions would be wasted on the chase. Anyway, I’ll let you put on the kettle and I’ll say cheerio fo tonight.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Well PPO, looks like it’s about that time to close the Vox bar for the night. Have a great weekend and try not to get sold into white slavery by Abbott.
AdLib 7 days ago
Take carepinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – To me, it’s totally worth it and the Feds should sue the banks to get the money back.
AdLib 7 days ago
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