On January - 30 - 2015
tada!
Harleigh
7 days ago
heyppo
Harleigh
7 days ago
Hey hey!
adlib 7 days ago
Are we all in Romney mourning?
adlib 7 days ago
Really enjoying Mitt doing a Grateful Dead, “Set up, like a bowling pin, knocked down, gets to wearin’ thin, they just won’t let you be.”
adlib 7 days ago
i am just so sad we won’tget to listen to his wife’s whining. Money Boo Boo
Harleigh
7 days ago
“I love the poor, especially when they’re seasoned right.”
adlib 7 days ago
I must admit getting a little more satisfaction at Ann Romney, who claimed it was “their turn” to be President, getting teased out one more time then having the rug pulled out from under her. An expensive persian rug, of course.
adlib 7 days ago
LOL And how many times did you watch Palins speech?? OMFG Mid-nite drunks in the bars sound better.
Harleigh
7 days ago
It really wasn’t that surprising when you watch the video of her speech coach:
adlib 7 days ago
adlib 7 days ago
sadly their new line of Myth Magic Flying Underwear with a pic of him and Ann on the buttflap won’t be sold for donation. 
Harleigh
7 days ago
Hello everybody! Just heard that our Prime Minister is contemplating giving a knighthood to Flipper, acknowleging that Mitt is even more unpopular than him.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hey everyone. The mittster is not running for prez! Ad–love your line about the poor! LOL!
glenn
7 days ago
hey glenn, beatlex
Harleigh
7 days ago
This is a much better Deflategate story!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hello fellow mourners of the Mitt dropping out.(Sigh) the comedy gold he would have been
beatlex
7 days ago
I want a Palin – Bachmann 2016 for jebus ticket.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Hey Harleigh–how are you?
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh – Yeah…shouldn’t Mitt’s magic underwear have protected him from this embarassment?
adlib 7 days ago
He must have heard Palin’s speech and said to himself: “NOOOOOOO’
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Harleigh–how would we know “witch” was “witch” on the palin/bachmann ticket?
glenn
7 days ago
Hey glenn! Thanks so much for the props!
adlib 7 days ago
I been saying that since way back on the old HP starting early 2008! LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
Good one, glenn!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Thanks, PPO!
glenn
7 days ago
Hey PPO! Well, can Mitt flip and catch a fish? No wonder Flipper rates ahead of him!
adlib 7 days ago
glenn LOL what a screechfest with both onstage with open mics! OMG!
Harleigh
7 days ago
Mitt was farce anyway.All of a sudden he cared for the poor,Job#1 for him pfffft!
beatlex
7 days ago
Harleigh–I don’t think either one of them needs a mic!
glenn
7 days ago
What a joke myth is
Harleigh
7 days ago
harleigh and glenn, two voices that would shatter Tupperware. Yeuch!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hey Beatlex! There was a part of me who wanted him thoroughly humiliated but I guess we can reserve that for Jebby.
adlib 7 days ago
Good point Ad!
beatlex
7 days ago
Palin speaks through a salad shooter into a mr. microphone. pure nonsense.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Ad–Do you think Jebby will get the nomination? If he does, I think most repubs will see him as the “sane” one in their clown car, unless they want to go full right and go with Cruz or Carson!
glenn
7 days ago
You have to add Jodi Ernst to make that a threesome circling the cauldron, “Bubble, Bubble, trolls and trouble!”
adlib 7 days ago
OMG–Ad–ernst, palin, and bachmann on the same stage! If I were male, I’d be worried about holding onto my balls and covering my ears at the same time! As I’m female, I only have to worry about covering my ears. You guys better watch out!
glenn
7 days ago
Nah, Ad. Too many hogs at the GOP trough, scared they’ll lose what nuts they have left to contemplate her
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
joni got jabbed real hard from some military sevice organizations for lying about combat experience. for
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – I think there will be a lot of money and Repub establishment behind Jeb and pushing him but I don’t think the Repub base will let him win. Heard a poll today, he’s got a 50% for, 50% against standing in the GOP. That’s not good. And they see him as “too liberal”.
adlib 7 days ago
Sarah without the words to say printed right in front of her,is exposed to be the idiot she really is.Even her fan base is in the toilet.
beatlex
7 days ago
Beatlex–After all the republican angst about President Obama’s teleprompter, I just think it’s divine justice that palin’s dwindling pundit fan base finally saw what we liberals have seen all along.
glenn
7 days ago
True, Beatlex, but that’s the same for many in politics these days. Not an original quote or thought from any of them. All has to be spun and sanitized.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
beatlex I think she is now greatly diminshed.
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – Oh, I’d never be caught watching them except from the safety of my own home with a thumb on the mute button. But my theory is that the three of them whining and droning would cause them to spontaneously combust.
adlib 7 days ago
glenn,thats Karma right? no one deserves it more tha Sistah Sayrah
beatlex
7 days ago
beat, 2 mules and sister Sarah
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – True but that assumes Repub pols have nuts to lose.
adlib 7 days ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad–if the palin teleprompter goes out again, spontaneous combustion won’t be necessary.
glenn
7 days ago
Beatlex–I agree–no one deserves to be mocked, dropped, and quit upon more than the palindora box of lunacy.
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh – I missed that, Ernst lied about her combat experience? Can’t say I didn’t see that coming.
adlib 7 days ago
glenn – So true, Palin was big on attacking Obama as the Teleprompter President so this is very sweet just desserts.
adlib 7 days ago
Ad–if ernst lied about her combat experience, does that mean she could be lying about that there hog castratin’?
glenn
7 days ago
She was in charge of the truck drivers in supply division. no combat, no aircraft.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Ad–as usual, it’s a case of republican projection. Palin probably thought that President Obama couldn’t deliver a speech without a teleprompter. Of course, once again, our suave and well-spoken President proved them wrong in his SOTU. And, once again, the republican projection proved to be true–palin couldn’t deliver a speech without a teleprompter or a hand job!
glenn
7 days ago
oops–SOTU address.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Good point, Ernst is out of the same mold as Palin and Bachmann, compulsive liars all. So the hog castrating stuff is all too perfect to present the image these “pit bulls with lipstic” want to promote. Yet they’re really just obnoxious, lying jerks.
adlib 7 days ago
glenn – I generally don’t attach any honesty to any Repub attack, I think you’re describing Palin as far brighter than she is. I just think the Repub types like her just look for any club they can hit Obama with and grab it, believing what they say isn’t required.
adlib 7 days ago
Hello good folks. First you say you do then you don’t. Then you say you will and then you won’t, by Mitt Romney 
sabreen60
7 days ago
Ad–you’re probably right–but as Beatlex says it is karma to see them hoist by their own petard, so to speak.
glenn
7 days ago
Hey Sabreen–I know, that mittster is such a tease, isn’t he?
glenn
7 days ago
Ernst is full of shit in family poverty, go $480,000 in farm subsidies…. way more than Bachmann
Harleigh
7 days ago
Harleigh– well of course ernst is full of shit. She’s a republican, isn’t she?
glenn
7 days ago
true glenn
Harleigh
7 days ago
Hey Sabreen! “You say ‘47%’ and I say ‘99%’, you say “What’s Romneycare?” and I say ‘Obamacare’, let’s call the whole thing off!”
adlib 7 days ago
lol hey sabreen
Harleigh
7 days ago
AdLib – But will you still love me tomorrow?
sabreen60
7 days ago
glenn – Agreed, I love watching the hypocrite haters like Palin skewered by the very things they attacked.
adlib 7 days ago
Sabreen – “I’m gone, gone, gone…”
adlib 7 days ago
Sabreen–I don’t know about Ad, but I will always love you!
glenn
7 days ago
“You say hello and I say goodbye!”
adlib 7 days ago
well then BENGHAZI!!!
Harleigh
7 days ago
Ok, so I shouldn’t laugh, but did anyone see the video of Chris Christie falling out the chair at the radio studio? If he wasn’t such a bully, maybe I wouldn’t think it was fully.
sabreen60
7 days ago
it was funny
Harleigh
7 days ago
Sabreen, no, I gotta see that!
adlib 7 days ago
Sabreen–didn’t see the video, but saw the headline, and I laughed out loud at it. And, it was funny! Did someone tell him to sit down and shut up?
glenn
7 days ago
Oh glenn 
sabreen60
7 days ago
just on Skype call
beatlex
7 days ago
Harleigh–since you brought it up, what’s the count on the Benghazi investigations now? 99? 47? 2015?
glenn
7 days ago
Sabreen–just wish I had your wit and Dion’s singing voice!
glenn
7 days ago
In case anyone else missed it:
adlib 7 days ago
Did Christie fall because he broke the chair?
glenn
7 days ago
Adlib – I’m glad you found it.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Isn’t this perfect allegory for Christie’s run at the Presidency?
adlib 7 days ago
Ad and Sabreen–and it is still funny!
glenn
7 days ago
If he thinks that fall hurts, wait until the GOP Primary gets going!
adlib 7 days ago
I can hardly wait for the GOP primary to start this year!
adlib 7 days ago
I understand Jebby is trying to get the money Romney would have gotten.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Ad–from your keyboard to the wingnut voters’ ears. I truly don’t understand republicans/tpartiers. Why in the world would want someone like Christie–rude, uncouth, and a bully–to be President of the United States? Can you imagine christie telling another world leader to “sit down and shut up” when he doesn’t agree with him/her? Personally, I don’t want someone “just like me” to be president. I want someone 100X smarter and 200x more diplomatic. I just don’t get it.
glenn
7 days ago
sabreen – I also heard that a lot of romney money and supporters don’t like Jebby and may go to Christie or Walker.
adlib 7 days ago
A shout out from the show me state
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Ad and Sabreen–What I’m seeing is that walker has the koch brothers’ backing, and that’s all the money he needs! I think the nominee is going to be walker. And, Ad, those repub primaries ought to be very interesting, indeed.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn _ The Republican/Know Nothing Party want to see a reflection of themselves as their nominee. Dems want the smartest and most skilled person as their nom. That’s the difference.
adlib 7 days ago
LOL Christie and Walker! adlib,they are both under the shaddow of indictment
beatlex
7 days ago
Hey Murph–what’s showing in your state?
glenn
7 days ago
gleen anyone in any chain of command within 400 miles of Benghazi from the day before until the date after has been deposed or testified at at least one of the ‘investigations’. Gowdy is #10 I believe.
Harleigh
7 days ago
AdLib – Yeah, I forgot about Walker. He’s the union destroyer, so I know the money men love him.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Hey Murph!
adlib 7 days ago
hi muprh
Harleigh
7 days ago
oops…murph
Harleigh
7 days ago
Glenn….record aca signups, unhappy local farmers who now realize that the so call Right to Farm Amendment was a shell game, and the ferguson distrust that will not go away
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Beatlex–a shadow of indictment doesn’t matter to repubs. They elected a guy in Staten Island who was under indictment; he got convicted after the election, and had to resign his seat. So, an indictment is a point of pride with republicans.
glenn
7 days ago
Hiya Murph!
sabreen60
7 days ago
Hi to ad lib, harleigh, sabreen
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Beatlex – Republicans elected Grimm who was under indictment when he ran. Repubs don’t quite get that the majority of Americans don’t like criminals and idiots as their politicians..
adlib 7 days ago
Hi to everyone – good to see all who are here!
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–Record ACA signups without the state buying into the program? WOW!
glenn
7 days ago
Hey CL–how are you?
glenn
7 days ago
hi cl
Harleigh
7 days ago
Ms. CL – Glad to see you!
sabreen60
7 days ago
I’m fine, glenn. How are you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn….we have broken through the goal two full weeks ahead of the deadline……demands for expanded medicaid continue to grow but it is not going to happen
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Ad–great minds think alike!
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn,we are talking for President! They will be scrutinized for everything
beatlex
7 days ago
Hi Harleigh, great to see you Sabreen!
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – Explain the Agriculture “shell game” – please.
sabreen60
7 days ago
CL-doing well also.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – That’s quite a tough environment there. But sometimes things have to get bad for people to be open to changing their minds. It’s so disappointing to see people so convicted about voting against their own best interests due to successful propaganda.
adlib 7 days ago
Beatlex – I want someone like the lesbian in (I think) OK who said she will out the adulterous slobs who challenge her equality. We need her or someone like her or, for want of another, Larry Flynt.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–that is great news! Even if expanded Medicare doesn’t happen, it’s another nail in the republicans’ coffin of governance.
glenn
7 days ago
Sab…the Right to Farm amendment was really a protection for corporations to do as they want, where they want, when they want….ground water issues which we had a handle on are now back to square one.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Indeed glenn, I owe you a Coke!
adlib 7 days ago
glenn – we don’t need expanded Medicare (that has 20% in private anyway) IF we can just keep moving ahead on ACA.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – That’s too bad. Maybe this will be a lesson to them.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – why, oh why do people keep NEEDING ‘lessons’ anyway? Whatever happened to good sense?
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey CL! How are things your way?
adlib 7 days ago
Bealtex–I’m not so sure about your theory. Everyone already knows about the “shadow of indictment” over both christie and walker, but that hasn’t stopped them from considering them viable candidates. Not ONE repub has come out and said, “maybe we shouldn’t run people who may be indicted.” In a rational world, your theory would apply, but not in the republican bubble.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad- I was at a meeting this week of a larger farmers association where we were told by our lawyer that the groundwater concessions we had won over the companies producing toxic fertilizer are now out the window. The moans and groans. Back in July I was tossed out of a meeting of this same group for raising questions about the real benefactors of the Amendment.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
CL–sounds good to me. Keep up the good work!
glenn
7 days ago
AdLib – things are nuts but good. Can’t complain. Still waiting to hear back from our mutual Mama’s Hot Tamales friends. I’ll keep you posted.
choicelady
7 days ago
oops–Beatlex
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – just remember, dear: you are Cassandra and the prophet without honor in his own country. Both were CORRECT!
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn -IOKIYAR (It’s ok if you are Republican)
sabreen60
7 days ago
glenn – I do think there’s a difference between Republicans not caring about candidates being criminals and the rest of Americans who represent a majority. Walker and Christie are in trouble if they get the nom because a majority of voters do care about that.
adlib 7 days ago
Sabreen – that is the most disheartening thing EVER! GOP gets a pass. No one else.
choicelady
7 days ago
AdLib – Even Tweetie on MSNBC tonight noted that the GOP brush off the criminals and re-run them. Dems exile them forever.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad – sorry – Dems exile them just for LOSING forever.
choicelady
7 days ago
Thank you choice. At one point in the meeting one of my neighbors asked: “How come no one warned us?” The person I was sitting next to poked me and said “You did.” My reply: “They really do not want to hear that the town’s token liberal was right and they are wrong. “
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – Did anyone acknowledge that you were right?
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph – Part of being a non-wealthy Republican is always living in a bubble of wishful thinking, they just don’t want to consider all the negative possibilities of the powerful Repubs getting their way. They never seem to learn that their party is all about caring only for the wealthy and powerful and screwing the majority…which includes most Repubs.
adlib 7 days ago
Ad–I hope so. Remember all that fuss about Pastor Wright and the republicans screaming, “where there’s smoke, there’s fire” and President Obama “palling around with terrorists”? I just don’t trust the repubs to not be assholes. Can you imagine if christie or walker were actually eleced; then indicted? What an embarassment to our country!
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn,we atill don’t know what will happened there,the Press will be al over it,IMO
beatlex
7 days ago
Sabreen….jinx
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – you’re freaking more than a token. You’re a wise man. And no one likes that. Gramsci said there is a wide gulf between ‘common sense’ and ‘good sense’. You have the latter, they have the former.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – Very good. Looking forward to a response too, mama’s got a tamale with my name on it!
adlib 7 days ago
glenn – well yes, an embarrassment, but it would pretty much kill off the GOP, and I’m trying to find the down side of that…
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – I just saw your response.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Ad – I will let you know what I hear.
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice “Commnon” vs “Good”
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph–I have to agree with CL. You are a wise man. At least one person acknowledged that you know what you’re talking about!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad- I WANT you to have tamales!
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – exactly. Good sense is yours. Common sense is…your neighbors’ ideas. That don’t work.
choicelady
7 days ago
Bill Maher tonight. The key question: “If Sarah Palin has a stroke, how will be know?”
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
CL–love it! I truly think it’s not so much the end of the gop as it is the end of the tea party idiots. I think the gop is finally realizing that their right wingnuts are more trouble than they are worth!
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – I liked Stephanie Miller’s observation that when Sarah goes off, it’s as if a Scrabble game exploded in her head.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL 
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
glenn – it will take a boatload of brave conservatives to take back the party. As long as the Kochs fund the Teabaggers…
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–that’s a great question! Maybe if she has a stroke, she’ll speak in complete sentences!
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – Funny. We could do many versions of that, “If Sarah Palin got drunk before a speech, how would we know?” “If she took LSD”.
adlib 7 days ago
Murph – Jim Wright over at Stonekettle absolutely destroyed Sarah Palin. It was glorious.
sabreen60
7 days ago
CL–LOL! Stephanie Miller has it right!
glenn
7 days ago
Sab…I need to look into that.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen – I saw Stonekettle, and it was wonderful, yes!
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen–a couple of quotes from Stonekettle, please.
glenn
7 days ago
CL – I watched Stephanie Miller’s podcast and you know she had a field day. She’s and the rest are online at Free Speech TV.
sabreen60
7 days ago
There is literally “no one minding the store” with Sarah Palin.But what does it say about the process? That a ding bat can fly out of the proverbial rafters and raze all of our heads?
beatlex
7 days ago
I want to bring up something to our think tank…..I was approached about being an organizing member of a Ready for Hillary County Committee. No way in the world can she carry this state by there are House seats and a Senate Seat at stake and the Presidential Race is the spark for them. I am so luke warm on Hillary. Can someone convince me that I need to “Fake it until I Make it?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
CL–True dat. Until we get the mega money out of politics, the koch bros. will rule.
glenn
7 days ago
Palin’s speech was so bizarre, so utterly incomprehensible, that the Democratic National Committee issued only a two word response via their communications director: “Thank you.” See, apparently, Palin’s teleprompter froze. And she had to speak off the cuff, and that gibberish above is what came out. Her teleprompter froze. Teleprompter. And see if you can understand this from the tundra tart: Speaking at the Iowa “Freedom” Summit, the Sourdough Shill didn’t disappoint, did she? It’s too big to succeed or fail with the retreads for changing Latino men riding other men because we won’t be taken for a ride! America! She contemptuously dismissed the President as “a little boy” and then sneeringly declared liberals and democrats are racists and sexists. It’s the same tune she’s been singing since John McCain took her to the prom and got his ass beat by the star basketball player.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph–that’s a true dilemma. Hillary is not my favorite Dem, but I sure as hell don’t want to see ANY republican anywhere near the White House.
glenn
7 days ago
beatlex
7 days ago
BRB
glenn
7 days ago
noddin off folks….
Harleigh
7 days ago
Harleigh – I will be sorry to lose you, but yes indeed – get some sleep!
choicelady
7 days ago
Night Harleigh!
adlib 7 days ago
beatlex
7 days ago
Beatlex – is that the depth of Sarah’s gibberish you’ve transcribed?
choicelady
7 days ago
Sab- what got me was that Palin who has so mocked Obama for teleprompter dependency was umbilically connected to hers and since she does not real prep and disdains having the written remarks at the podium she had nothing to say and so she said nothing.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Nite Harleigh!
sabreen60
7 days ago
Nothing wants to work with the song,sorry
beatlex
7 days ago
Murph – I just smile when I think she got shafted by her own teleprompter.
choicelady
7 days ago
Oh Beatlex – sorry about that!
choicelady
7 days ago
Do I take it from the silence that we generally cannot rise to this challenge: I want to bring up something to our think tank…..I was approached about being an organizing member of a Ready for Hillary County Committee. No way in the world can she carry this state by there are House seats and a Senate Seat at stake and the Presidential Race is the spark for them. I am so luke warm on Hillary. Can someone convince me that I need to “Fake it until I Make it?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – She doesn’t make sense when the teleprompter works. She has consistently lied about PBO needing the prompter or he’s doomed. I remember when ate the Republicans lunch in their house at thier conference. He answered question after question until they screamed “uncle”.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph – That’s a tough one. Like you, I sure don’t want a Repub to win the WH but I wouldn’t be supporting Hillary until it was her against a Repub (someone may upset her again in the primaries, she is a terrible campaigner). Which way are you leaning?
adlib 7 days ago
Murph – unless and until there is someone else, she’s the one. I don’t think you need to head such a thing, but you might want to keep a toe in the water?
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – That’s a hard one. How good of an actor are you? I don’t like Hillary and I don’t trust her. And I certainly don’t trust Bill. I can see them denigrating PBO and his policies. Having said that, yeah back her 1000%.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph “Ladies and Gentlemen,the President of the United States,Jeb Bush!!! should scare you straight
beatlex
7 days ago
And why is it the the GOP has Palin and Trump coming out every four years like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown then pulling it away at the last minute? How dumb are Repubs to keep believing them every 4 years when they say they might run for President?
adlib 7 days ago
Sabreen – I agree, and I have never recovered from one of her supporters, a white woman, saying “America needs a woman to be president more than they need a Black person.” I’m still gawping. I will vote for her in the general IF there is no one else. But look what happened 2007 on. This man came out of nowhere, and….I’ve found the best president of my life now is in the WH.
choicelady
7 days ago
adlib,good point,but as we have seen,the Rs are slow on the uptake
beatlex
7 days ago
AdLib – on another blog I figured out that the reason Sarah does everything part time is because, well, you HAVE to be ready for the Rapture, right?
choicelady
7 days ago
I am reading along folks….appreciate your thinking. I will respond at the end.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
All–with all this talk about Hillary, will there even be a Dem primary? Murph, can you wait until a Dem primary happens (if it does) to make your decision?
glenn
7 days ago
Most of the Repubs that come out every 4 years are grifters. There’s a lot of money to be made running for President.
sabreen60
7 days ago
I want a button to send to Sarah – “If the Rapture comes, will you REALLY go away?”
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–love your button! Than can we fake a fapture and she will go away permanently?
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – you are always a leader in MO. Do you HAVE to be now? Can you join in the ‘exploration’ process until someone else comes along if they do?
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn, I want Joe Biden, Martin O’Malley to throw their hats in the ring.
sabreen60
7 days ago
glenn – I’m working on it!
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – I AM WITH YOU ON BIDEN, O’MALLEY!
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – You said it! And I am with you on that, it is a prime opportunity this time around for a lesser known but charismatic and principled Progressive to jump into the Dem Primary. Hillary can be beaten and IMO, should be beaten in the primary.
adlib 7 days ago
Sabreen–Me too. Or, at least someone else besides Hillary.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – I want a ‘Wag the Dog’ moment to convince the extreme Right their time has come to LEAVE.
choicelady
7 days ago
The apparent plan to wait until July to announce officially is puttng pressure on the groups already on the ground to link and become BIG…thus the county thing. I don’t see anyone else in the wings and do mean no one else who I would want more or who could put together the money.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – I think there are a lot of liberals who don’t want Hillary. However, she’
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph – Money will follow any candidate that can energize the Progressive side of the Dem base. The first step is finding that person.
adlib 7 days ago
Sooooo – what does anyone think of Jim Webb? As a longtime supporter of blue collar unions full of white ethnic guys I like, I agree we need to care about them. But I fear he’s EXCLUDING people of color not expanding the INCLUSIVE nature of what could be a glorious society of diversity.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–and isn’t that a shame? That the Democratic party has “no one else in the wings” and more importantly, “could put together the money”. I think Warren could do it, but she’s insistent she isn’t running. And, in most ways, I think Warren should stay right where she is. What do you think of Sabreen’s and CL’s suggestions of O’Malley and Biden?
glenn
7 days ago
Oops. However, she’ll get all the money and endorsements. People I talk with are worried about Biden’s gaffes and O’Malley is an unknown.
sabreen60
7 days ago
CL – Webb is very conservative, not very Progressive and has been on the wrong side of issues for me too often.
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib – progs want only Bernie or Elizabeth. They pay no attention, so I think the money needs to go to people such as we are. Policy smart, motivated, energetic, diverse. Not ideological.
choicelady
7 days ago
AdLib – that was my feeling about him. I like some of what he says but not enough.
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – well, PBO was an ‘unknown’, too.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – Don’t like Webb at all.
sabreen60
7 days ago
CL–I forgot about Sanders. Do you think he’ll run?
glenn
7 days ago
CL – Agreed but if a solid Progressive candidate was to emerge in the Primary, with an overconfident Hillary probably anxious to tack to the center/right, good things could happen.
adlib 7 days ago
CL – But look how long PBO was in the race. Unless someone steps forward soon, it may be too late for a real unknown.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – that’s sort of what I think as well. glenn- Sanders WILL run, and I think it’s a huge error on his part. I will never forgive him for giving NO credit to PBO for letting Vermont do single payer as their state option. A gift they could not deliver, BTW,
choicelady
7 days ago
AdLib – WHO is a solid progressive that doesn’t make us all barf? Elizabeth isn’t running. That’s it. I don’t know any others.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–so what you are saying, as of right now, that Hillary will get the nomination?
glenn
7 days ago
Sanders would be very smart to run. He comes off to indie voters as too eccentric, I don’t think he could win a GE but he sure could force Hillary to the left a bit. And gain a solid following as he battles from his Senate seat in DC for Progressive values.
adlib 7 days ago
glenn – I sure the hell hope not.
choicelady
7 days ago
You guys are not helping me move toward Hillary….. 
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
AdLib – the moment Hillary won the primaries, she’d move center right again.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – we’re not the right crowd for pro-Hillary whooping.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–sorry. You asked us to give our opinions, such as they are. As I said when you first asked, you truly have a dilemma!
glenn
7 days ago
As a Canadian I see in Hillary Clinton a leader,she has just adjusted her positions to take advantage of the politics of the moment.Isn’t that what the President did to get elected.I think she would make a fine President.Of course we know that there is only so much a President can do.Are we not seeing that play out POV’s?
beatlex
7 days ago
CL – I don’t have a candidate right now to suggest. Just saying that if one could be found, there is a path to the WH for them.
adlib 7 days ago
Ad…Bernie is the embodiment of the old saying: “When all is said and done, with Bernie a lot more gets said than done.” His record for outcomes..miserable.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – I have personal reasons to love Hillary who was enormously kind to someone I know. That’s not enough. I’ve been to the mountaintop and seen what a GREAT president can do. I do not want to head into my (cough) older years with Hillary and mediocrity.
choicelady
7 days ago
I don’t have a problem with Sanders getting in the race. He’s an avowed Socialist, so I that’s a turnoff for a lot of people. But I agree that he could possibly move Hillary to the left.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph – that is HILARIOUS! Thank you – I will use that with Bernie freakoids.
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn and all…I WELCOME your thoughts…..you are confirming my ambivalence…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph, that’s the problem, Progressives like many here are not enthusiastic about Hillary so we wouldn’t be jumping on that bandwagon at this point. Just the opposite, as you can see, we’re seeking alternatives.
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib – I agree. With all his gaffes, I still like Biden, and because of Sabreen I’m strongly looking at O’Malley. But otherwise? I see no one.
choicelady
7 days ago
Beatlex–I agree about Clinton being a leader. The question is–is she the leader the US needs now? I think her presidency will experience the same virtoil that PBO has experienced. I’m so sick of lying republicans/tpartiers and not sure I would like to experience another four years of this nonsense. On the other hand, I’d rather see Clinton as president over any repub!
glenn
7 days ago
Hillary is hawkish. Sanders, Warren is too far left for me. Webb is a blue dog, O’Malley is more pragmatic like PBO. But Hillary has the mojo.
sabreen60
7 days ago
AdLib – I think the issue of “progressives” is also very dicey. I think we all are. Lots think we’re not. Those I met around CA are…not. But think they are. Big mess.
choicelady
7 days ago
My question is do I have a alternative? Do I have someone I want to be on the podium at the DNCovention? O’Malley is the best of the bunch as a functioning and experienced leader with balance but he is dry, dry, dry as toast.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I WANT AL FRANKEN! Or someone…
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice Imaging if we COULD choose based on talent….and not image.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph! TALENT not IMAGE? That’s subversive!
choicelady
7 days ago
OK – I want Jeb Bartlett because that’s who we’ve had for 6 years. I want ANOTHER ONE.
choicelady
7 days ago
Beatlex – My take on Hillary is a bit different. I thought she showed in 2008 that she is a self-serving conservative who will say or do whatever it takes to pacify others so she can proceed in serving those she cares more about, namely the moneyed class. What principle did she stand up for so consistently and strongly in 2008? And instead, how awful and racist was she, Bill and her campaign in attacking Obama? Remember how she was trying to steal the primary with Super Delegates after it appearered she couldn’t win fair and square by winning caucuses and elections? And her lie about being shot at on the tarmac in Bosnia? I don’t see the kind of character that we see in Obama.
adlib 7 days ago
choice…that’s me….a rebel.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Glenn,NO doubt,I think she will surprise people this go’round
beatlex
7 days ago
AdLib – totally agree, slam dunk.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – pick someone you believe in and open a MO exploratory committee of one.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL 
sabreen60
7 days ago
Ad….your presentation captures so many of my concerns.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
CL – I like Biden a lot and I’m looking forward to learning more about O’Malley. At this point, I’d support Biden in the primary over Hillary.
adlib 7 days ago
Sabreen – I think we agree!
choicelady
7 days ago
Adlib.I can’t argue that truth.But the alternative,whoever it is,will be worse.They will start new wars,etc
beatlex
7 days ago
AdLib – likewise, and I get anecdotal stuff around the internet that shows a LOT of people would. He has the same moxie as PBO.
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – Very good rundown on Dem candidates!
adlib 7 days ago
Ad–I love Biden, too. I think he is a truly kind man. I also think he’s much smarter than people make him out to be. BTW, when are the primaries? How long do candidates have to “declare”?
glenn
7 days ago
AdLib – PBO and Biden are strong and fearless. Hillary is strong and gutless. Big difference.
choicelady
7 days ago
AdLib – Hillary is no PBO. One reason Repubs are so pissed they can’t get anything negative on him.
sabreen60
7 days ago
CL – I’m with you on Al Franken! That would be so cool!
adlib 7 days ago
Sabreen – yessssss. How awful that a Black man from a single mom is more family oriented and moral than ANY of the GOP. GASP!
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk….do you have the balls to be in your current location?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
AdLib – I don’t know a lot of Franken’s current policies, but he was the one showbiz person to whom I gave a pass for his incredible analyses of policy on Air America. He is awesome in his knowlege and his core values. And he’s freaking funny!
choicelady
7 days ago
Fully inflated sir
funksands
7 days ago
Funk…..for inflating or deflating.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – O’Malley isn’t dry. He’s just really laid back 
sabreen60
7 days ago
FUNK!!! How great to see you!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey Funk!
glenn
7 days ago
Funk! Don’t you owe me a drink or dinner or something?
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – if Murph sees him as dry, he can improve on that. Image stuff is the easiest to fix.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey Funk! Can you do a Hail Mary with deflated balls?
adlib 7 days ago
Howdy all!
funksands
7 days ago
Sab…if O Malley is not dry he does a very convincing impersation of someone who is…AND he has no record that will grab the country’s attention.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Every morning!
funksands
7 days ago
AdLib! LOL!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – He was a very good governor here in Maryland. He can be soft spoken. He doesn’t have the charisma of PBO, but the Dems here really liked him.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph – if O’Malley decides to run, the good image folks will make him far more vibrant. He has a solid core, and from there you can move anywhere.
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – i’m watchin O’M very closely, yes.
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk–hate to leave as you’re just arriving, but it’s time to call it a night! Murph, I know you will make the best choice for you; so hang in there. G’night to the rest of you, and I hope everyone has a good weekend.
glenn
7 days ago
well, I would welcome choices
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Oh glenn – good night! Lovely to have shared time with you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Face it my American friends,you will keep electing Presidents,only to have them stymied by the R’s.It’s seems to be your lot in your political lives.Solutions??? Beats me
beatlex
7 days ago
He’s the only current Dem governor that I think can pull off a run. Brown would do it (and still might), but he’s 114 years old. Beebe would be interesting, but would likely really struggle in the primaries
funksands
7 days ago
Glenn, I’m used to it.
funksands
7 days ago
Beatlex – this may be the years of the GOP swan song. They are SO BAD they may become invisible.
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn,see you !!
beatlex
7 days ago
I’d just suggest to all here, don’t buy into the MSM and Hillary hype that there is no one to run against her. Biden may not be a favorite right nowbut he could become one. Don’t know O’Malley well enough but maybe he can raise his game. And there may be a surprise addition that grabs the attention of Dems. We’ll only have a coronation if we buy into it being inevitable and don’t support alternatives.
adlib 7 days ago
funk – Jerry Brown is a DINO. He’s been corrupted even more than he was, and he is NOT a prog, not even a Catholic anymore. He’s a business suckup bastard.
choicelady
7 days ago
choicelady,a word answer…redistricting…
beatlex
7 days ago
The GOP is likely to lose the Presidency, and the Senate and will lose some seats in the House, but may pick up yet more governorships and statehouses
funksands
7 days ago
Nite glenn. Take care.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Beatlex – yes, but we’re working on several ‘citizens commission’ initiatives in the Midwest. That can make a huge difference.
choicelady
7 days ago
brb
funksands
7 days ago
CL,I truly hope it works,grassroot movements work the best
beatlex
7 days ago
I could definitely imagine Hillary swerving right too early and opening up a big opportunity for Biden or someone else to grab the loyalty of a majority of Dems. Hillary will turn her back on Dems the moment she thinks she’s got the nom in the bag. She’s already shown that intent last year when she was dissing Obama and his policies and reaching out to Repubs and joining their opinions on policies (especially international, being the war monger she is).
adlib 7 days ago
Beatlex- your note on the Presidency as a bit of windmill tilting is one that makes sense – I keep coming back to a basic understanding on my part….we have a limping system that is easily styied by partisan divides.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Night glenn!
adlib 7 days ago
Ad, personally I think Biden will get his assed kicked if he runs and is really not much better than Hillary. I like him very much personally, but nothing about him excites me other than the continuation of some of Obama’s key policies.
funksands
7 days ago
Probably bias, but I also like Chris Van Hollen. I know he’s unknown, but he’s been one of the very few Dems to stand tall re ACA and PBO.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Funk – Agree with you on all counts but I think that Repubs won’t do as well with Govs and statehouses if there is a strong Dem win nationally.
adlib 7 days ago
nite glenn thanks for your thoughts….very valuable…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen – Van Hollen, Whitehouse, Brown (Sherrod the good Brown) and a few others appeal to me, too.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph, its been a $10 Trillion lesson for the American people on the limits of executive power on a domestic level
funksands
7 days ago
Shred Brown would be great.
funksands
7 days ago
Funk, why $10 trillion.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Choice, I like your list.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Funk – Biden starts from a weak position compared to Hillary but that is to his benefit. Hillary can underperform, he can’t because he’s an underdog. And if Biden carries the torch for a continuation of Obama-style governing while Hillary looks more like a Repub, he may do far better than expected.
adlib 7 days ago
Murph, that’s how much the GOP has cost the economy in unmet economic capacity
funksands
7 days ago
I don’t know enough about Brown’s record.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph,precisely what I am saying.It just is a mess right now.Maybe it will self correct…But with the KOCH’S loaded for the long haul now…
beatlex
7 days ago
Funk…..ah….ever the financial mind….
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
An *estimated* $10 Trillion by 2016
funksands
7 days ago
AdLib – I think you’re onto something very powerful there about Biden.
choicelady
7 days ago
That’s a lot of money I hear
funksands
7 days ago
Sabreen – Excellent suggestion, I do like Chris Van Hollen. He’s a strong speaker, always smart and on target on the issues. He would be a real underdog at the start but I could see him as a surprise success.
adlib 7 days ago
funk – it makes Everett Dirkson look like a piker. Do you know the statement?
choicelady
7 days ago
AdLib – OBAMA was the underdog, too.
choicelady
7 days ago
Biden seems to be a throwback to the George HW Bush, Reagan sytle of candidate…would that sell in the general population.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Astute as usual from you about Biden Ad
beatlex
7 days ago
Is this a Vietnam thing Choice?
funksands
7 days ago
Murph – I think Biden has the same style of warmth as Obama and not Reagan or ick Bush. He genuinely LIKES people – it’s not a smarmy act.
choicelady
7 days ago
$50,000 for every man woman and child in the United States.
funksands
7 days ago
funk – Nope. Dirkson said, “A billion here, a billion there – pretty soon you’re talking REAL money.”\
choicelady
7 days ago
Oh yeah. That’s a good one!
funksands
7 days ago
I like Biden. He’s a good guy. But seriously, I don’t see him as President.
sabreen60
7 days ago
I’d love to see Uncle Joey run. He’s so damn entertaining.
funksands
7 days ago
Sabreen – i think he’d be fine.
choicelady
7 days ago
funk – Uncle Joey – Biden?
choicelady
7 days ago
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – I’m into policy not electoral stuff, so the graphic is confusing to me.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – except it’s all BLUE. That part I like.
choicelady
7 days ago
Yep, that’s what a lot of people call him. The crazy uncle that’s a character. Embarrassing, funny but with a good heart
funksands
7 days ago
funk – after GHW Bush, Biden glows in the dark!
choicelady
7 days ago
Beebe is my dark horse candidate. I think he’s evaluating a run. I think O’Malley is great. I’d love to see him run. Good dude.
funksands
7 days ago
Bush was just embarrassing
funksands
7 days ago
funk – you want NETANYAHU? OK – I obviously don’t know whom you mean.
choicelady
7 days ago
MIKE Beebe, Governor of Arkansasfunksands
7 days ago
BTW – my sister-in-law went to Hight School with the Netanyahu brothers. If I liked her, I’d ask her about them. But I don’t. So I won’t.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – As you well know, an election is a chess match with many levels of play going on at once. It’s pretty much impossible to predict all that can happen but one overall but less apparent aspect of the Dem primary is that opinions of Hillary as The Coronated One could make her look more like a bully in conflicts with other candidates and pompous. Expectations are very high for her, if another candidate has a close showing in an early state or even beats her, the MSM will smell blood. And Dem voters love charismatic underdogs who seem genuine. Hillary does not come off as genuine and she often made huge gaffes and missteps in her last Presidential campaign. Add to that, the MSM loves bringing down the people they build up, Hillary is set up to take a big fall and that’s a big possibility.
adlib 7 days ago
Funk,he was and is a mental midget,reduced to drawing silly pictures.
beatlex
7 days ago
funk -ohhhhhh THAT Beebe.
choicelady
7 days ago
….in his own feces
funksands
7 days ago
AdLib – I agree with your very insightful analysis.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – Thanks for the election map!
adlib 7 days ago
Ad, that was her biggest struggle in 2008. Not convinced she’s shaken that despite her best efforts.
funksands
7 days ago
Beatlex – who? Beebe???
choicelady
7 days ago
Kalima????
funksands
7 days ago
Choice he is referring to Turd Blossom
funksands
7 days ago
AdLib – It’s quite possible that Hillary is the Buffalo Bills. They blew their first Super Bowl and their best year was that one. Maybe 2008 was hers, and it’s all downhill from there?
choicelady
7 days ago
You know Biden suffered an aneurysm. I don’t know if the gaffes are related to that or not. I’m not be disparaging, but hubby had a very mild stroke and I see some differences. Maybe not enough to make a difference. But I’m just saying. Or maybe I shouldn’t. 
sabreen60
7 days ago
funk – ahhhh. That’s a relief.
choicelady
7 days ago
Well, my friends, a very good discussion and very helpful to me.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I’m not 100% convinced that she is 100% convinced to run yet.
funksands
7 days ago
Night Murph!
funksands
7 days ago
Sabreen – i’d totally forgotten that. It could explain a lot.
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk…not leaving quite yet…..but I wanted to thank everyone for their time on this.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen I don’t think you’ll jinx anything….
funksands
7 days ago
Murph – my only advice would to be part of something but not the leader of it now in case someone better comes along.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph, I thought I told you goodbye…get out of here. 
funksands
7 days ago
funksands
7 days ago
funk – your wish is NOT Murph’s command, dear.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL,What? i am talking about GWB! LOL
beatlex
7 days ago
Funk….ask my neighbors…I am hard to get rid of…..
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Ha!
funksands
7 days ago
Beatlex – lost the freaking thread and it was SO confusing!
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – in our neck of the woods, your intractable nature is a GOOD thing.
choicelady
7 days ago
Nah Funk. Just didn’t want to step on anyones toes.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Structurally the Democrats have a LOT of work to do before we even need to worry about an actual candidate. We repeat the same strategy in 2016 that we did in 2014, we’ll get our ass kicked again.
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – I think we need someone other than Debbie Wasserman-Schultz on the case.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Oi vey you got that right. Great lady. NOT the right choice for that position
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – A possible platform that the Dem Primary might be decided on is how people feel about the candidates, their policies and charisma having their influence as well. If Hillary comes off as disingenuous, as she often does and did in 2008 and Biden comes off as sometimes delivering gaffes but a guy you like and who is a regular and genuine person who is more in tune with the base…it’s possible. Not to be redundant but to hammer this home, Hillary will be targeted by the Repubs, the MSM and Dem candidates to take her apart. She’s more likely to blow up than any other Dem candidate.
adlib 7 days ago
Oy rather… ha
funksands
7 days ago
Here is what emerging in my neck of the woods regarding the overarching strategy….DEMS CANNOT WIN THE MONEY BATTLE…THERE FORE WE MUST WORK TO MAKE MONEY FAR LESS RELEVANT….and that means an informed and dedicated Democratic electorate that will dismiss monied propaganda for the manipulation it is and offer an alternative to family, friends and neighbors.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Ad, I agree with that. I just don’t think Hillary will have to take any chances against Biden. She can play it very safe and cruise.
funksands
7 days ago
Well, dear friends, I’m going to bid adieu. I have one homeless guy in rehab whom I see very Saturday and another headed there Monday. Tending these folks has been very stressful, and I need SLEEP to get through it all. Murph – that is an excellent point, and it does mean we need a candidate with very little baggage for whom we can WORK and not have to DEFEND. That may be the most important distinction.
choicelady
7 days ago
Night Choice!
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – There hasn’t been a corralation between off year and Presidential elections for Dems that I can remember. They’re two different animals, IMO. I don’t think we have to fix what happened in 2014 to win in 2016. Young voters will come out strongly again, Latinos will, women will, all the Dem bases will be back out in 2016…as long as Dems do the kind of job they did in 2012.
adlib 7 days ago
Night funk – be well!
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad, if they’re allowed to vote.
funksands
7 days ago
I think disenfranchisement had a bigger effect on 2014 than some realize
funksands
7 days ago
Thanks choice and good night. Admire your work with the homeless…..it goes beyond just a bit of food and a place to flop….remarkable.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph, that middle way is absolutely the answer, but I don’t quite know what “it” is.
funksands
7 days ago
Night CL! HOPE we hear something next week!
adlib 7 days ago
Murph – well, the front porch IS where one flops. A homeless woman who knows him and me came and cleaned it up tonight. I am SO grateful – it was a bit ripe.
choicelady
7 days ago
Good night, CL.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Funk…the winnng in spite of money is the key but how.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
AdLib – I do, too! K. has been away, so next week should be good I hope.
choicelady
7 days ago
Good night, Sabreen – always insightful talking with you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Friends and neighbors is critical for the long game, but not super-helpful on a national level every two years.
funksands
7 days ago
Goodnight Choice!
beatlex
7 days ago
Murph, what do you think is the FIRST step? Is that clear to you? It’s murky to me.
funksands
7 days ago
funk – do we have ANY choice but a constant friends and neighbors approach? We are outspent always.
choicelady
7 days ago
Good night, Beatlex – thank you as always for your insights.
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk – I don’t think Hillary’s game plan will allow her to play it safe. She wants to sew the seeds of appealing to Repubs in the Dem primary, especially as she wins more elections. She and Bill haven’t shown themselves to be so reserved. And the attacks against her from all directions won’t allow for that.
adlib 7 days ago
CL, that’s kind of what we are kicking around.
funksands
7 days ago
Nite beatlex!
sabreen60
7 days ago
Bottom line my American friends ” it is the economy stupid”
beatlex
7 days ago
Night Beatlex! Sleep well!
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib – Hillary has been really quiet on a lot of issues. She’s playing it safe. I don’t see her instilling a lot of confidence.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Who said I was going to bed folks? I have more to say!
beatlex
7 days ago
Did you all see that Stephanie Kelton, one of the preeminent MMT economists in the nation got hired by Bernie Sanders to be the Dem lead economist in the Budget Committee? Awesome!
funksands
7 days ago
Beatlex – Yes, in the end, it usually does come down to the economy…but sometimes war and sometimes social issues.
adlib 7 days ago
Beatle…it is in the minds of the American voter but the reality that the global enviroment esp. regarding instability IS the economy does not seem to register.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Hillary just announced that she’s delaying her decision to enter the race for another 6 months at least. That doesn’t sound like someone who is worried.
funksands
7 days ago
Oh, I thought someone said Nite to you, Beatlex
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – Hillary’s silence has made her look cowardly and that ain’t good for her. Once she’s in the campaign, she won’t be able to hide like that anymore and her playing it safe will look even worse. I can absolutely see her candidacy implode if it’s run as cynically and with the same entitlement as in 2008.
adlib 7 days ago
Sabreen,CL was going,how are you doin’
beatlex
7 days ago
Funk – Really? That’s great to hear, especially in light of teh Repubs changing the CBO’s rules on estimating economic impact by applying trickle down.
adlib 7 days ago
Well, all I know is that I will absolutely hold my nose and vote for the Dem in GE. There is no Republican on the planet that could get me to vote for him/her. And with that dear friends, I bid you all Good Night 
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sorry Beatlex, didn’t realize you were saying goodnight to CL!
adlib 7 days ago
The Dems just hired as their lead economic voice an economist that calls the focus on reducing deficits and debt as utter bullshit. I love it!
funksands
7 days ago
Sabreen I totally agree. You HAVE to be a comparative voter in national elections.
funksands
7 days ago
adlib,foreign and domestic balls are in the air,Hillary is waiting to see what happens.Which is smart,
beatlex
7 days ago
Night Kitty
funksands
7 days ago
Night Sabreen! Don’t get discouraged yet, we may end up with a candidate we really like when the Dem Primary is over. Way too early to put the crown on Hillary’s head.
adlib 7 days ago
Hillary’s message is going to boil down to “I like a lot of what Obama did, but I’m going to be able to actually get stuff done”
funksands
7 days ago
Well, I am off to bed. I thank you one and all for your wisdom.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
night murph
funksands
7 days ago
GUNITE MURPH!
beatlex
7 days ago
brb
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – You’re leaving out the last part that will chill Dems to her, “…by adopting many Republican positions and allowing them to slide in really terrible things into bills that will hurt the economy and millions of Americans.” Oh wait, she may not say that afterall.
adlib 7 days ago
Night Murph, have a great weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
Ad, that’s called “compromise”. Right?
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – As you say, Hillary will be pounding the “I will get things done with Republicans!” drum hard because first off, that’s what Americans want to see, bipartisanship, and secondly, she supports a lot of Republican goals. The problem is, bipartisanship in the Tea Party era means giving into greatly damaging demands just to pass things that may be somewhat positive…or just joining Republicans on their agenda. Hillary is not a fighter for the middle class or poor, she is a corporatist and Bill’s whole foundation operates on the backs of the wealthiest people in the world. Those are the people they are closest to on a daily basis, not “the little people”.
adlib 7 days ago
But Ad… Bono!
funksands
7 days ago
beatlex
7 days ago
Beatlex – Just paste the URL as it is, don’t add the “v” and it will appear properly.
adlib 7 days ago
beatlex
7 days ago
Funk – Yes! And don’t forget all the Hollywood stars!
adlib 7 days ago
Playing it now, Beatlex!
adlib 7 days ago
Ad, I’m just waiting to see what “very serious” people she surrounds herself with. That will tell us everything we need to know
funksands
7 days ago
Not that I’m cynical or anything
funksands
7 days ago
Right around this summer is when the really batshit loony conservative season kicks off. Gonna be a humdinger
funksands
7 days ago
And in the end,if we can’t laugh at the absurity of life,we are lost.I don’t sense us there yet…
beatlex
7 days ago
Funk – Remember Mark Penn in 2008? Hillary surrounded herself with some of the slimiest people and I’m not expecting that to be any different for 2016. She and Bill think the way you play the game is to have a better snake working for you than your opponent. I expect her campaign to eventually get quite dirty as it did in 2008.
adlib 7 days ago
Not in Canada at least!
funksands
7 days ago
Ad, I’m hopeful that she learned something then. We’ll see.
funksands
7 days ago
Beatlex – Yep, despite the madness that happens in life, it’s no good to get swallowed up by it. That’s when you need to keep a sense of humor and an appreciation for the nice things in life.
adlib 7 days ago
John Podesta doesn’t tell me much. I think he works every campaign
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – We’ll see but if I was betting right now, I’d bet heavily on her having a variety of corrupt and slimy political types in key positions in her campaign.
adlib 7 days ago
She has hired a couple of Obama campaign managers as well. Joel Beneson for one.
funksands
7 days ago
Right now its all white dudes, which totally sends the right message
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – True, her campaign may not be as awful as 2008 but I think Bill is most comfortable having poilitical “hitmen” on staff to get the dirty work done. I just don’t think of the Clintons as clean fighters.
adlib 7 days ago
Ad, quit beating around the bush and tell me whether you like Hillary as a candidate! Quit being so cryptic.
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – I heard they’re getting Ray Rice to join her campaign and add color, do you think that’s a good idea?
adlib 7 days ago
I think he’ll bring the much-needed domestic violence perspective to the issues.
funksands
7 days ago
Well, time is short. Long week this week. Looking forward to a dominating 31-16 win by the Seahawks in the Superb Owl Big Game!!
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – Sorry, I have to keep my impartiality here. I can’t tell you whether I support a disingenuous elitist for President or not, that’s just how I roll.
adlib 7 days ago
Anyone have any big plans for Sunday? X I know you’ll be watching 1985 Edmonton Oiler repeats, so enjoy those.
funksands
7 days ago
Damn Ad, I guess I’ll just have to wait until 2016 to find out if you support her or not.
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – I’ll be rooting right with you, hoping the Seahawks beat them cheatin’ ball squeezers!
adlib 7 days ago
How could you not? Is there anyone more insufferable than Bill Belichick? He reminds me of Boehner
funksands
7 days ago
We’re re-enacting last year’s Puppy Bowl with rats we found while cleaning out our attic.
adlib 7 days ago
LOL
funksands
7 days ago
Night buddy. Have a good weekend! X enjoy your weekend too!
funksands
7 days ago
Thanks pal, Have a great weekend and here’s to a Superbowl surprise that makes us celebrate!
adlib 7 days ago
You guys seem to be caught in “What if” territory.The system is NOT going to change anytime soon.The damage in my mind is severe.And will take a generation to fix x
beatlex
7 days ago
Beatlex – True, the system isn’t going to change but a majority can always use a system to take control. We need to make that happen in 2016.
adlib 7 days ago
adlib,I am with you either way.a olne voice from far away
beatlex
7 days ago
Very glad of that, Beatlex. In the end, we’re all in this together!
adlib 7 days ago
Nite folks
beatlex
7 days ago
beatlex
7 days ago
Night Beatlex! Thanks for the tunes! Have a great weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
Goonight Povers!
beatlex
7 days ago
Night!
adlib 7 days ago
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