Vox Populi – 12-19-2014

Howdy everyone – be sure to check in when you arrive or no eggnog for you! Hope you can stop by, AdLib. Not a holiday party without you!

choicelady

Ahem – in keeping with the ‘themes’ of the past few days, we ARE speaking of ‘enhanced eggnog’ of course…

choicelady

‘Evening, CL and AdLib (if you’re still here). A cup of enhanced eggnog to you. What do you think my t-shirt should say? I think I should “honor” the dickster and go with “Up your nose with a rubber hose.” What do you think?

glenn

Evening, glenn – lovely to see you! Here’s your cuppa eggnog. I love your T-shirt slogan indeed! How’s life in the Deep South tonight?

choicelady

glenn – may I add that I think your T-shirt slogan is in far better taste than what the dickster actually approved. Kudos, dear friend.

choicelady

‘Afternoon, Everybody. Eggnog????? In mid Summer? Believe it or not, the Aussies actually do the whole Winter Christmas thing here, in 100F heat!

pinkpantheroz

PPO – I would love to be in Aussieland were it not summer at Christmas. I’m way too Northern Hemisphere for that. How are you?

choicelady

CL–Well, considering where the dickster’s nose is, because that where his face is, there’s really not much difference is there? But thanks for the kudos. And, it’s too damn cold here in the deep south. But now that the cold weather has settled in for winter, I’ll be complaining about the cold for the next couple of months, so you can feel free to ignore me when I complain about the weather. Only when I complain about the weather, mind you.

glenn

Hi, CL, doing OK. Lots of tragedy in Australia right now. but we’re getting over it.

pinkpantheroz

glenn – LOL!! We have copious rain, we NEED the rain, and yes, we’re still complaining about it! One is never happy.

choicelady

Hey PPO! Hope you kept your cool in the heat!

glenn

hi all

Harleigh

PPO – tomorrow I’m joining Muslims in memory and anguish over what has happened there. YOU will be in my heart.

choicelady

Hey Harleigh–how are you?

glenn

Hey, glenn, aircon on full. no probs

pinkpantheroz

Hi Harleigh! How are you?

choicelady

PPO – if you can turn the A/C up full tilt, do you pretend it’s northern winter on Christmas?

choicelady

Thanks, CL. #Illridewithyou

pinkpantheroz

Hangin inthere. rough week for the aussies. WTH?

Harleigh

PPO–I was so sorry to hear of the tragedy in your beautiful country.

glenn

We are adopting and embracing #illridewith you. Bless you all for that!

choicelady

hi CL. good trip?

Harleigh

CL, nah, you need a Cold Store to do that, and I don’t happen to have one right now!

pinkpantheroz

harleigh – yes, good trip. But glad as all get out to be home.

choicelady

Hi, Harleigh, SLM

pinkpantheroz

PPO–Can you tell me more about #Illridewithyou?

glenn

Hi SLM! Harleigh and SLM – there is ‘enhanced eggnog’ awaiting you.

choicelady

mmmmm egg nog…..

Harleigh

Hey SLM–how’s it going?

glenn

Harleigh – ENHANCED eggnog…

choicelady

Hi all, and yummy egg nog…

sillylittleme

CL it will pair nicely with my most splendid smoke. LOL

Harleigh

I need a vote 0 do we enhance the eggnog with brandy or rum or something else?

choicelady

Harleigh–is that a cuban smoke?

glenn

Harleigh – and a puff, puff, puff, pass to you…

sillylittleme

glenn, it started the day of the gostage crisis. A muslim lady in Adelaide was on a bus and took off her hijab to avoid any abuse. The person beside her told her to put it back on and said she would walk with her to keep her safe. A Sydney woman heard about this and, because transpoert was snarled in Sydney, offered anybody who needed a ride home , Muslim or not. Then #illridewithyou went global.

pinkpantheroz

Hiya Glenn – finally feeling the holiday spirit and you?

sillylittleme

PPO – can you tell us more about #illridewith you?

choicelady

CL–Depends on what the something else is.

glenn

glenn – YOUR call, dear heart!

choicelady

Sorry about the sperlng.

pinkpantheroz

PPO! LOL!

choicelady

Pink – this has been an awful week for the innocent

sillylittleme

LOL I think its like good hand tended non tobacco.

Harleigh

PPO-That’s a wonderful heartwarming story, and perfect for the season of peace and goodwill toward men and women.

glenn

SLM – tomorrow the Muslim and interfaith communities in Sacramento are holding a vigil for all who have died so horrifically. It’s all we can do. It’s what we MUST do.

choicelady

SLM, so right. But it seems that the locals are pushing back against the Taliban and ISIL at last.

pinkpantheroz

PPO – out of the horror, at least this has come.

choicelady

CL–Isn’t rum traditional for eggnog?

glenn

BRB

pinkpantheroz

yep, and cinamon

Harleigh

glenn – brandy is my ‘go to’ for ‘enhancement’.

choicelady

I like it with dark rum and cloc

sillylittleme

clove

sillylittleme

Harleigh – nutmeg.

choicelady

SLM – CLOVE? wow never did that.

choicelady

Harleigh–I love cinnamon, too. And nutmeg, too. Could do without the clove, please.

glenn

cl – go lightly

sillylittleme

SLM – we are letting YOU pour your ‘enhancement’.

choicelady

cl – ahhh… currently smoking mine

sillylittleme

So – does anyone see a connection between the Taliban horrors and the shooting of young, Black men in the US? I think I do, but I’d like your take on it.

choicelady

SLM – LOL!

choicelady

uh folks… if we put all that stuff in a quart of eggnog and 2 quarts of 100 proof booze the I think we just made a concoction for a bomb!

Harleigh

Harleigh – shhhhh. The RW is watching us!

choicelady

cl – just the nsa

sillylittleme

SLM try a toke of this—–

Harleigh

cl – a connection or a correlation?

sillylittleme

SLM – they actually aren’t. But I have been hacked by the extremists at work, so they’re whom I fear!

choicelady

SLM – that is one of those questions the answer to which eludes me.

choicelady

CL–For many years now, people on the left have been saying how much like the taliban our right wingers are. Yes, I see a connection. What I see is we have lost our humanity–our empathy for fellow human beings. It’s the constant harping on “the others” that really sets the stage for this kind of behavior by our police. All black people are criminals, just as all Muslims are bad.

glenn

I am more worried by the RWNJ nazis and torturers than anything in the ME

Harleigh

glenn – BAM. That is EXACTLY what I think is the common denominator.

choicelady

Harleigh – I agree, but PPO and Pakistanis have reason to fear them both!

choicelady

glenn – spot on

sillylittleme

PPO – is #illridewith you actually producing real action? It makes me cry when I see the name – it’s so wonderful!

choicelady

Hello Planeteers!

sabreen60

Hey Sabreen – I seeeeee you!

choicelady

Sabreen – come on down. We have ‘enhanced eggnog’ with rum or brandy or something from Harleigh to smoke. All up to you.

choicelady

We have to change it from home of the brave to home of the depraved… re: torture

sillylittleme

Harleigh–I think it’s all connected. But, the constant harping on “the others” is so reminiscent of the nazis, it makes my skin crawl. I had a two-day “conversation” with a right winger this week who would not admit that if it’s wrong for terrorists to torture; it’s wrong for the US to torture.

glenn

Hi Sabreen

sillylittleme

Hey everyone!

funksands

Hi Funk

sillylittleme

SLM – I so respect PBO for releasing this report, along with Dianne Feinstein et al. who usually isn’t this principled.

choicelady

FUNK! Come on down – we have ‘enhanced eggnog’ and anything you wish to smoke, the latter thanks to Harleigh.

choicelady

Hey Sabreen, hey funk. How are you both?

glenn

CL – I feel like being greedy. I’ll take a little of everything

sabreen60

Sabreen – ’tis the season. Anything you like is fine with us.

choicelady

cl – they need to set precedent by taking action

sillylittleme

Well that’s might kind of you…

funksands

glenn and all – doing well for a foxy-old-broad

sabreen60

Sabreen–good to hear.

glenn

Sabren – just had a photo taken for re=registering as a lobbyist. Horrifying how old I looked! Not even foxy!

choicelady

Glenn, doing pretty well. Crazy times, but that’s okay

funksands

cl – I very much doubt that

sillylittleme

Choice, have you ever thought of having that tattoo removed?

funksands

I see kes and Murph are in the house!

choicelady

Hi all.

murphthesurf3

Hi Murph

sillylittleme

funk – you mean the one on my forehead? You think that’d help?

choicelady

funk–so have a little enhanced eggnog, vent a little, and maybe it won’t seem so crazy.

glenn

Hey, kids! How’s your weekend starting?

kesmarn

Just give it some thought

funksands

Hey Murph, Hey Kes

glenn

Hi kes, Murph – lovely to have you here. Eggnog in all varieties awaits you at your pleasure.

choicelady

Hi Kes – very pleasant and yours

sillylittleme

Hiya Murph!

sabreen60

cl – is harleigh out of the chronic?

sillylittleme

I shattered a giant bottle of gin in my car today. Could’ve have started better

funksands

I think I’m finally getting a grip on the Christmas shopping…

kesmarn

And kes – how goes it?

sabreen60

Kes–always a good start to the weekend with VOX.

glenn

funk – gin? Why in the car?

choicelady

glenn – hear, hear

sillylittleme

SLM chronic?

Harleigh

Funk, if you get pulled over that aroma is gonna cause you to do a little ‘splainin’

kesmarn

CL, YES! #Illridewithyou is camenting relations with all moderate Muslims. they even cooperated with the police during the seige and gave details of the gunman and the fact that he had been ostracized by the mainstream. He was the equivalent of the WestboroBaptist mob, sending vile letters to the families of deceased Army guys in Afghanistan.

pinkpantheroz

Costco run for a holiday party this weekend. Lucky the other bottles didn’t break

funksands

Ahh, CL I bet you’re a knock-out!

sabreen60

harleigh – never heard that term?

sillylittleme

You know whats awesome? I called Costco and told them what happened and they’re going to replace it for me no charge.

funksands

PPO – oh wow, that is WONDERFUL! Good for them. Good for all of YOU.

choicelady

Sabreen – thank you, dear. I’m…OK.

choicelady

Doing well, Sabreen. How about yourself? And Howdy to glenn and anyone else I may have missed there…

kesmarn

funk – that’s pretty amazing of Costco!

choicelady

May I offer a word of explanation to one and all….I have been spending a lot of time at another site- a new one- helping them to get up and running. My absence from the Planet has been for lack of time.

murphthesurf3

I think I’ll try that with Costco… “I – uh – broke this bottle of gin…”

kesmarn

SLM – nope, whatsit meann?? LOL

Harleigh

funk/cl – that’s how businesses should treat their customers

sillylittleme

harleigh – just what you think it means…

sillylittleme

PPO–I swear, if my kids weren’t here, I’d move to Australia in a heartbeat. What a civilized country! I used to think people in my country had empathy for each other, but I lost more and more hope for my fellow Americans every day. Present company excepted, of course.

glenn

Murph – can you let us know what’s going on and how to access it? ALL good sites deserve our attention!

choicelady

SLM, doesn’t happen much anymore

funksands

Murph… are you lending aid and comfort to the competition? 😆

kesmarn

glenn – that’s why Canada is on my radar – civilized behavior toward others.

choicelady

BTW watch Speakers Corner on Dec 21. Those of you who read my article on Dad asked about my Mom. Well, I’ve something in the pipeline. It’s a video. Sorry if it is a bit long, but I hope you all enjoy.

pinkpantheroz

funk – you can say that again

sillylittleme

Looking forward to that very much, PPO!

kesmarn

CL–Canada, too.

glenn

PPO – I will love to see the video. Your article was amazing.

choicelady

Glenn, Aussies have a dark side too. But otherwise you are correct. Wonderful country and people

funksands

Pink, looking forward to it! I really enjoyed your last offering.

funksands

The site is called Yabberz….very differnt from the Planet. I like it but for different reasons than I like the Planet.

murphthesurf3

funk – don’t we all have a dark side? But the US should be the last nation to carry it to extremes. We need to deal – REALLY deal – with our heritage of violence against people of color.

choicelady

Murph–is it up and running now? Can you give us a little more info?

glenn

Murph – thanks – is it up yet?

choicelady

murph – I really had a hard time navigating it the couple of times I visited

sillylittleme

Anyone see PBO’s presser today?

sabreen60

Sabreen – nope. Missed it but heard really good things about it.

choicelady

sabreen – recap please

sillylittleme

Thanks, glenn. Of course, Australia has its share of RWNJs and bigots, but they are pulling their heads in just now. Come on Down Under and I’ll throw another shrimp on the barbie for you!

pinkpantheroz

funk–I thought the whole idea of being human was to overcome your dark side, not pander to it. That’s what seems to be happening right now here.

glenn

PPO – be right down. Nothing I like more than shrimp on the barbie!

choicelady

Yabberz.com is in beta and as SLM points out navigating is tricky. It is unlike any other site because it is not article based but comment based. I plan to split my time between Yabberz and Planet with a little Daily Kos once the site is stabilized.

murphthesurf3

Sabreen–the one where he called on only women and the foxbots’ heads exploded?

glenn

Glenn, you would think

funksands

glenn – is this the last gasp of people who desire separatism? I sure hope so.

choicelady

cl – may it spread worldwide

sillylittleme

Murph, “comment based”? Does it collect comments from other sites and then post it on its own site? Explain a bit

funksands

Fox right now is having a discusion on “The Year of the Emperor”- they are freaked out about Obama not knuckling under.

murphthesurf3

PPO–for sure, if I decide to go to Australia again, you’ll be first on the list to know. Second will be a friend with whom I taught in Guatemala. Still in touch with her sparadocally, would definitely look her up after you!

glenn

murph – they are obviously insane

sillylittleme

Murph, not bad for “an incompetent lightweight who is in over his head”.

funksands

glenn – ahhhh – that explains the COMMENTS I heard on MSNBC about women in the media. I think that rocks! I got trashed by a local political reporter for asking a politician questions at the local Press Club. So the biases are far and wide.

choicelady

Funk….it is a lot like the Planet in that main articles are generated by members but a point and activity algorithm keeps the most active conversions at the top of the threads and it has a very pliable navigation system. The two folks putting this together are brilliant when it comes to coding.

murphthesurf3

Over at Crooks and Liars, they keep insisting that PBO is a lightweight.

choicelady

It was really good. First of all he called on ALL women. The guys on the front row threw a hissy fit after the presser. The press secy released a statement that women are often over looked although they cover the President day in and day out. He did not call on ONE TV “journalist” The topics covered were Cuba, Sony, Torture Report, Race etc. I think you may be able to watch it over at the Obama Diary. I cannot begin to do it justice. Lets just say he dropped serveral mics today.

sabreen60

CL, really? Odd

funksands

Sabreen – HOORAY for this president!!!

choicelady

Murph–I think that our rwnj brigade thought that PBO would quake in his boots because of the midterms. I’m glad to see him come out swinging.

glenn

funk – yup. I am a member of the press club, and the old grump can’t stand me because I make points that leave his mouth hanging open. Not pretty I might add…

choicelady

CL–Nothing like women doing the exact same thing me do to make some men’s heads explode, right?

glenn

I think Obama is going to spend the next two years in very sophisticated pay back. The media and GOP and cowardly dems better get used to it.

murphthesurf3

Sorry guys, but I gotta go and get the comestibles for Christmas. Please be safe and healthy over the Christmas . Oh, I’ll answer anything you want to ask after you watch the video. There will be quite a few, like “How did they do the special effects of Dad only having 3 fingers in the ‘Bounty” scene with Marlon. All will be revealed! ‘bye for now

pinkpantheroz

It would be a wonderful thing if anonymous or wikileaks would publish the entire un-redacted 6,800 page CIA Torture report. Talk about putting a light on cockroaches! Put a cash bounty on the identified heads of all the torturer cowards! Publish their names and addresses with pictures including their famblys also too! Cowardly unmerikan asshats.

Harleigh

Sabreen – I heard he said that he thought what Sony did was unnecessary

sillylittleme

glenn- that is spot on. How DARE the president treat women as equals!

choicelady

Sabreen, I like this new and feisty Obama. It’s going to be an interesting next two years. When he talks about not caving to bullies, he’s talking about more than Kim Jong-un.

kesmarn

Gosh, I hope his press conference doesn’t make the MSM cover him poorly.

funksands

SO long PPO and Happy Holidays to you and yoiurs.

murphthesurf3

Happy Holidays Pink

sillylittleme

That would be a stark contrast to the kid gloves they’ve used so far, funk.

kesmarn

Harleigh, so the summary is still the only thing that’s been released?

funksands

PPO – happy hols to you and yours! Have a lovely and joyous time. Great to see you and hope you’re here next week!

choicelady

Happy Holidays, PPO!

kesmarn

Night PPO Merry Christmas to you. Looking forward to your video.

glenn

Kes, I’d hate to see the 6 years of measured, sober coverage of the President suffer because of today

funksands

Funk thats all we get is a redacted summary that makes little sense.

Harleigh

Harleigh – that’s pretty heavy stuff, thank you!

choicelady

Hmmmm

funksands

Exactly, funk. He should be a little more deferential to the people who’ve treated him so kindly.

kesmarn

Harleigh – I think you can get the whole report via some Congressional offices?

choicelady

funk–me too. Because you know how left leaning that ole MSM is!

glenn

kes – LOL! Yes, this president needs to be more kind to his detractors!

choicelady

It was interesting watching the MSM folks see the women print journalists get respect from the President and so obviously snub them.

murphthesurf3

Funk you made a funny You know the MSM refused to cover his ACA speech and another one (can’t remember right now). I hope he never calls on them again.

sabreen60

The MSM can go fuck itself

sillylittleme

Sabreen – that’s a very good point! I hope he shorts them for the next two years, too!

choicelady

I loved the way he only responded to questions from women. Quite a contrast from the way women are usually treated by so many pudnuts.

kesmarn

Anyone know if the press conf. is online anywhere?

choicelady

Al Jazeera America has a story tonight that inquiries to the WH press office about the manuver at the Press Conference have been met with the President intends to communicate with those whose record of honesty merits special attention.

murphthesurf3

You know its funny, I watched the whole thing and didn’t realize any of this until afterward.

funksands

I almost choked CL… the repubs are now nazi’s! It’s in their platform! They are admitting and defending torture. It’s probably all obamas fault and all those uppity young black men getting themselves killed!

Harleigh

Sabreen, do you think the MSM will refuse to air the State of the Union address? Wouldn’t surprise me.

kesmarn

“Yes, you in the back; Sports Illustrated”

funksands

Count on Al Jazeera to speak to the ISSUE.

choicelady

Choice…at MSNBC you might be able to see it.

murphthesurf3

murph – if that’s true, then kudos to him.

sillylittleme

Harleigh- it was only a matter of time before they ‘came out of the closet’ on their affinity.

choicelady

Kes- Obama is in news making mode and he will be a hot ticket for SOTU.

murphthesurf3

Here’s an example of how “left-leaning” the msm is. When Dianne Feinstein was on CNN, wolf blitzer asked her, “Don’t you think the RELEASE of this torture report puts American lives at risk?” Yet when the dickster was on mtp, no one asked him how many American lives he put at risk with the ACTUAL torture! Bunch of douchebags!

glenn

Murph and the women actually asked news worthy questions, for the most part. At the end of the presser some guy hollered “have you made any resolutions” – a really important question to ask. Actually the problem I have the WHPC is that they have become infortainers and self absored, IMO.

sabreen60

Murph – I’ll take a look.

choicelady

harleigh – those criminals, those thugs, of which none of them were

sillylittleme

Good point, glenn!

kesmarn

You tell ’em Glenn. I like this side of you.

funksands

glenn – excellent point!

choicelady

Any nation that defends it interests via torture is not a nation worth defending.

funksands

kes – if wouldn’t surprise me either.

sabreen60

funk – AMEN!

choicelady

funk – that’s at least one of our founding principles or was it?

sillylittleme

Murph–The President began his press conference by saying that his press secretary (his name eludes me) had given him a list of who had been naughty or nice. And that’s why he called on the women.

glenn

funk – adding — charging them with treason would be appropriate

sillylittleme

funk and all – the ONLY point to torture, historically and today, is to incite major fear of the aggressor. It has nothing to do with ‘getting truth’ which is does not do.

choicelady

glenn – that’s cute

sillylittleme

CL – It’s almost like they reprinted Mein Kampf translated to bagerese.

Harleigh

glenn – that’s funny! Good list of good folks – and the ones deserving coal (ash)…

choicelady

Harleigh –

sillylittleme

SLM, absolutely. Individual prosecution via Nuremburg-style trial at the UN would be a good start in scrubbing the blood stains from our hands.

funksands

Harleigh – remember that the Dominionists of C Street actually BROUGHT unreconstructed Nazis to America, so it’s not even a stretch here.

choicelady

One of the best comments I heard today is that Obama intends to join with Nancy Pelosi and the Progressives in the House to deliver votes for Boehner when he makes a good deal with them since he cannot get a majority of his own caucus….and then he intends to join with Reid and Warren to make sure his vetos are upheld.

murphthesurf3

Murph OT – but did you read the statement that McCulloch gave about knowing witness # 40 was lying?

sabreen60

Harleigh, just think…when Jeb runs, Dick Cheney has another chance to be Bush’s brain and re-open the torture chambers at Gitmo.

kesmarn

funk – the hague awaits

sillylittleme

Sabreen–according to foxsocallednews, the questions the women asked were all “softball” questions, dontcha know?

glenn

Glenn I loved that comment, naughty and nice.

murphthesurf3

Sabreen – SERIOUSLY he knew #40 was lying????

choicelady

glenn – They didn’t try to ask gotcha questions. They asked questions that required factual and informed answers.

sabreen60

I saw that too, Sabreen. Shouldn’t McCulloch be prosecuted for that? But who prosecutes the prosecutor?

kesmarn

fucksnews sucks

sillylittleme

Sabreen – women are like that. They ask serious questions. How DARE they?

choicelady

kes – the FEDS prosecute the prosecutors.

choicelady

Those sneaky evil WOMEN!

Harleigh

And I hope they do, C’lady!

kesmarn

Sabreen…40 has a history of being a police car chaser and a source of false testimony. It took the media investigators two days to make it clear that she was a bad witness start to finih.

murphthesurf3

cl – women aren’t smart enough to be taken serious, that’s why they have the type of female candidates that they have…

sillylittleme

Obama rubbed salt in the wounds by taking an extra 5 minutes to talk to a reporter about her new gig launching a magazine in Belgium. It was priceless

funksands

Murph – #40 needs to be prosecuted for perjury. No exception.

choicelady

funk – ok, I’m sure it will be up on Dkos soon

sillylittleme

#40 is like really ugly also too.

Harleigh

Side note….I have been astounded at how the Press….allow Boehner to just walk out when he does not like a line of questioning and to avoid answerng any question with impunity.

murphthesurf3

is it a form of suborning perjory if you know you’re putting someone who will lie under oath?

sillylittleme

I’ve read that #40 is bipolar and very disturbed — has been for a while.

kesmarn

Harleigh – I seriously don’t care what she LOOKS like if that’s what you mean?

choicelady

LOL CL I was being facetious.

Harleigh

SLM – yes, that would be the case, so the DA needs to watch his back with the Feds.

choicelady

Harleigh – she’s ugly to the BONE for sure!

choicelady

slm – exactly. I heard a lawyer say the same thing. McCulloch can be disbarred and charged for knowingly putting a liar on the stand OR not telling the Grand Jury whenever he found out she was a liar.

sabreen60

Murph, they expect nothing from Boehner, but have to interact with him per usual to keep the horse race false equivalency angle going.

funksands

I can’t believe a real DA would put a whackdoodle on the stand to lie. WTF?

Harleigh

he should be disbarred for certain

sillylittleme

harleigh – so agree

sillylittleme

McCulloch said she wasn’t even in the area.

sabreen60

Harleigh – the DA acted as defense attorney not as prosecutor.

choicelady

They aren’t going to do a damn thing to that prosecutor or that juror

funksands

funk–thanks, and I agree with your statement. As I said before, I had this argument with a rwnj about this whole thing. Kept asking him what makes us any better than the terrorists when we torture. All we have done is to reduce ourselves to their level. These guys can’t even construct a good argument; it’s like arguing with a paper bag. In one of his replies to me, he told me that the President Obama’s “apology tour” was what made the terrorists so bold. After I ripped him a new one about the “apology tour” nonsense by pointing out that every credible news organization had labeled that meme “false”, “pants on fire”, “4 pinocchios”, I also had to point out to him that the tour he was referencing happened almost eight years after 9/11/01. They’re just so consumed with hatred, they can’t even get recent history straight, let alone history.

glenn

your right Funk

Harleigh

funk – don’t think for a second that the feds won’t swoop down on the prosecutor. I brought a charge against a NE city’s PD and got an investigation and WON it.

choicelady

funk…where is the disrespect they so readily give the President…where are the hard followups.

murphthesurf3

funk – didn’t say I got an FBI investigation – we changed the entire PD because of it.

choicelady

Glenn, the RWNJ tower relies on every brick remaining in place. Get a RWNJ to use introspection and admit that they’re wrong about 1 thing, and the whole tower starts to crumble. They CANT admit they’re wrong to you. It’s too dangerous.

funksands

The press always rolled over for Dubya, Cheney and Rumsfeld too. They were craven lap-dogs back then.

kesmarn

glenn – he came to Boston to see Deval Patrick off, and you should have read some of the comments. Troll territory

sillylittleme

glenn – Isn’t it interesting how Republicans who justify torture and/or refuse to call it torture are so up in arms about what Cuba represents.

sabreen60

Well CL I hope you or somebody could go clean up that mess in MO. It just really stinks.

Harleigh

Murph, the press knows that if they aren’t nice to GOP, they’ll get blocked from access. Bush made this very clear during his terms

funksands

Harleigh – the AG will do it!

choicelady

Dems are too reasonable. They still view interacting with the press as something they’re obligated to do.

funksands

Glenn- I am astounded at how absolutely bold the Bush era defenders remain in re. to the torture report.

murphthesurf3

funk – I think PBO just fired a shot across the MSM bow today. No more coddling…

choicelady

murph – they’re a sick lot

sillylittleme

Sabreen, Murph–McCulloch admitted that he knew witness #40 was lying. And, of course, witness #40 was mentioned at least 20 times on insannity’s show as showing how “right” darrenwilson was to shoot.

glenn

cl – I hope he does some things that really count

sillylittleme

Funk….well Obama appears to be about to give the press a little bit of GOP treatment.

murphthesurf3

Before the midterms, the president fought for democracy by including the GOP. Now? Not so much. He’s not changed – they have.

choicelady

SLM…they are.

murphthesurf3

Smart. Nothing to lose at this point.

funksands

Well, kids, it’s time for me to catch the 11 p.m. news here — which is focused mostly on the major national security question of the day: “Will we have a white Christmas?” — and call it a day. Hope you all have a great weekend!

kesmarn

you too Kes

sillylittleme

Obama’s Cuba plan was a totally fucking brilliant plan that totally blindsided the baggers.

Harleigh

kes – well, WILL you have a White Christmas? I hope it is lovely and that you have a wonderful time. Love to you and yours!

choicelady

Folks I can’t stay long. Very tired and too much to do. Happy Holidays to all of y’all. Spread a little cheer to others as well plz

funksands

Good night Kes…btw…where is ad lib…2nd week in a row MIA

murphthesurf3

nite kes

Harleigh

funk – the same to yyou

sillylittleme

Happy holidays to you, too, funk – lovely to have you here. Take a ‘to go’ on the ‘enhanced eggnog’.

choicelady

He’s alive and well, Murph, but life is bit hectic for him right at the moment. I know he’ll be back to Vox soon, though. B’bye all again!

kesmarn

Murph – AdLib is a bit under the weather. He’s going to be fine but not up to three hours here. He sends his love and best wishes for a GREAT holiday to all.

choicelady

Good night funk….I am glad to have heard from you tonight.

murphthesurf3

Thanks Kes and Choice for the Ad Lib update

murphthesurf3

B’bye kes!

choicelady

Night kes.

sabreen60

Happy Holidays Funk and kes

sabreen60

TOPIC: ANY THOUGHTS ON SONY AND S KOREA?

murphthesurf3

does this lampshade on my head make my ass look fatter? LOL

Harleigh

Nah Harleigh. It kinda balances out your body

sabreen60

Murph – I seem to be alone in thinking SONY did a good thing putting people’s safety ahead of profit. Yes, I know theaters declined the film, but just in case – and you never know – they did the right thing pulling it now. I suspect they will find other ways to get it out there but LATER.

choicelady

Harleigh – yes. Yes it does.

choicelady

I think they shoul mak a movie about CEO Hollywood pussies! Caving to Kim kardashian maybe…. but fatboy Kim Il??!!! oh jeez. That would embarass me!

Harleigh

cl – I think it was an empty threat and they were trying to downplay the leaked emails

sillylittleme

I am with you choice…in addition there were not many that were going to show it anyway…however, I want a third party to buy the film and launch it as a Pay Per View…On Demand….I think it might be a bigger hit that way than it would have been in the theater.

murphthesurf3

SLM – maybe, but in this day and age…one really cannot assume violence won’t happen.

choicelady

harleigh – lol two times in a row and I agree with Sabreen

sillylittleme

Murph – I agree. Though I will NOT be one paying on demand!

choicelady

funk–it would be fine with me if the gop blocked the press. Who is going to spew their hatred for them? Is it just me, or has it gotten so one-sided lately that it’s laughable? Or pathetic? Or just plain sad? How many Democrats have you seen lately pushing back at the dickster about torture? Where are the Dems? Or maybe I”m missing it because the “left-leaning” msm just doesn’t report on Dems? Funk this “new side” of me is because I’m so pissed off. And, I don’t want to be angry all the time, but one can only see the dickster so many times bragging, yes bragging, about torture before one loses it. And, yes, Sabreen, isn’t is interesting, once again, that it’s not okay for Cuba to torture, but okay for the US? I’m seriously hoping that because, lately, the republicans have been coming up against their own hypcrosy so often that the American people finally wise up and VOTE! ,

glenn

Murph – My initial thought was Sony should not have made a movie about killing a sitting head of state. If they are some other country made a movie showing PBO killed, how would we feel. Then after giving it some more thought it was WTF. Hollywood made movies ridiculing Hitler. But at any rate if Sony was bold enough to make the movie they damn well should have had the courage to stand by it and not cave.

sabreen60

Over on Twitter some Asian activists are calling the film ‘racist’. I am not one to wade in usually, but defending Kim Il Un (I think that’s it) is NOT a wise move here! Someone who killed a relative and fed him to pigs is so sick it’s not racist at all to call him OUT.

choicelady

Murph – I think the whole film is in horrid taste, but this man is beyond comprehension.

choicelady

‘night Kes. You have a good weekend as well.

glenn

Sab….World Police featured a plot to knock out the current S. Korean dictator’s dad and took on radical Islam as well…outrageous and very funny…4 yers ago

murphthesurf3

Murph – it’s not even North Koreans I would worry about but our hometown lone wolves who’d use it as an excuse to blow up or shoot up theaters.

choicelady

glenn – that’s a very cogent argument, thank you!

choicelady

Glenn….I get your anger and join you in it.

murphthesurf3

Violence is a possibility. But do we really want dictators controlling what we produce. Suppose they don’t like a particular documentary or a news broadcast?

sabreen60

Choice….true about the nutty but this development is very bad for free expression.

murphthesurf3

I don’t think LIL kimy Il could strike here.

Harleigh

CL and Murph–thank you.

glenn

Murph and Sabreen – that is all worth thinking about, but until we can get a handle on who is REALLY behind the threats, for the moment, caution seems wise. I cannot abide the idea of more deaths no matter who is doing it. Once we figure it out, I think we can relax more and return to the issues of free expression, but they are NOT at the moment my first priority. Preventing harm IS.

choicelady

Harleigh–as CL says, it’s not lil kimmy but perhaps our own home-grown nutjobs.

glenn

Choice – there are risks here no doubt but giving in means giving up does it not.

murphthesurf3

If Kim starts blowing up faux… studious…. then….. HEY! we could call NK and splain to dear leader the faux is badmouthing him…. gee. Hope nothing bad happens to those liars.

Harleigh

glenn – if it turns out that NK is not behind the SONY threat, I won’t be surprised to find the perps in the USA. Yes – I think this is a step toward shutting up liberals by issuing such threats to other things. That’s why discretion until proof is so important.

choicelady

Murph – see my comment to glenn. I think it’s a temporary tactic, not a rout.

choicelady

I caught a segment on Rachel’s show tonight. She talked about the book “The Satanic Verses”. Anyone familiar?

sabreen60

Speaking of free expression, have you all read about the professor who wrote an op-ed piece in a non-profit journal, entitled “I Hate Repubicans”. And, of course, right wing heads are exploding becuase, athough she’s entitled to her “free expression”, we can’t tolerate intolerance. Kid you not.

glenn

Harleigh – that’s just BAD ASS!

choicelady

sabreen – ya and it was awful. I call it anti-prose

sillylittleme

Sabreen – oh, yes – very familiar! And no, no one gave in. But that was another time. Things have changed, and it’s not NK I fear. It’s our own ‘pistol packin’ mamas’ here in the US of A.

choicelady

CL sometimes it is fun to think in a evil way! LOL

Harleigh

glenn – I saw that! They can say anything. SHE can’t cuz she’s librul…

choicelady

Harleigh – you bad, bro!

choicelady

Sab…Solmon Rushdie was put under a death sentence by an Iranian religious court for the Satanic Verses…he hid and outlasted them.

murphthesurf3

Sabreen–Wasn’t Satanic Verses the book published by an Iranian (can’t remember his name) and the mullahs in Iran put out a “contract” on him? Basically, they said he “dissed” Islam, so he should be killed. Last I heard he was living in London.

glenn

glenn – In These Times changed the headline on that story, BTW.

choicelady

Glenn…Solmon Rushdie was put under a death sentence by an Iranian religious court for the Satanic Verses…he hid and outlasted them.

murphthesurf3

Murph–jinx–except you remembered his name.

glenn

Murph – Rachel said he was in hiding for 3 years. But he still gets death threats.

sabreen60

glenn – it was a fatwah, yes, and it still holds. But Rushdie is alive, living more openly, and well.

choicelady

Rushdie appears regularly on Maher.

murphthesurf3

And yet those stupid baggers will listen to that brave icon of their’s, Ted ‘Poopy Pants’ Nugent.

Harleigh

Sabreen – I had a book that outsold Satanic Verses at one store. As I was gloating about it – I got a death threat from a nutjob over it. Beware of your arrogance!

choicelady

CL–thanks for giving me the correct terminology.

glenn

Harleigh – POOPY PANTS!!! That is PERFECT!!!

choicelady

Har –

sabreen60

Glad to hear Rushdie is more out in the open now.

glenn

Well folks, I’m all in. Have a great holiday and eat a lot of wonderful food

sabreen60

Okay folks, I’ve vented enough for one night. Thank you all for listening. I hope everyone has a great weekend. Peace!

glenn

Good night sabren.

murphthesurf3

‘Night Sabreen. I’m following you out the door!

glenn

CL is right, the local RWNJ are almost 1935 nazi’s. I won’t be long unless we really get out the vote in 2016

Harleigh

Sabreen – lovely to see you, and have a GREAT holiday!

choicelady

Nite All – I’m following Glenn out the door as well

sillylittleme

Good night and happy Christmas, glenn! Also SLM – have a lovely holiday!

choicelady

Oops, almost forgot. Thanks for the enhanced eggnog CL!

glenn

Good night Glenn

murphthesurf3

nitey nite guys!

Harleigh

Choice..are you still here? Harleigh…still here?

murphthesurf3

yep

Harleigh

I’m here and so is Harleigh – all three of us!

choicelady

Harleigh I wouild welcome your insight re. Yabberz- I can tell you more if you like….the site is interesting for many reasons

murphthesurf3

Murph – what would be the outcome if the film had been released and people were killed? I just don’t trust that cannot happen anymore.

choicelady

Choice- same comment re. Yabberz. You both are very insightful and blogger experienced at a high level.

murphthesurf3

The next 2 years is gonna be a hoot even with Bachmann gone I think Joni Ernst will be even more whacked.

Harleigh

OK murph

Harleigh

Murph – who is ON Yabberz? I’m interested if they’re good and thoughtful commentators or even highly diverse.

choicelady

Harleigh – I’m not sure I have room in my sense of humor for Joni…

choicelady

Choice and Harleigh…there are a number of lively and interesting commentors. There are also a number of right wingers. The site has found a way to corral bad behavior and to shape interaction. It is an interesting experiiment.

murphthesurf3

That is intriguing. I will take a look. How do we access it?

choicelady

It’s amazing they can even believe what comes out of there mouths. How do we get there to it?

Harleigh

Choice…yabberz.com

murphthesurf3

Well…give Yabberz a look if you are willing…let me know if you are going there and what screen name you will be using.

murphthesurf3

I probably will stick with my OTHER name – churchlady320. It gets better attention (save from atheists) than choicelady.

choicelady

Well I am calling it a night as well. Best to you both. Have a Kule Yule.

murphthesurf3

Have a lovely holiday, dear Murph. Hope you have a lot of fun and relaxation! Great to see you. I will check out yabberz.com tomorrow.

choicelady

Choice I will look for churchlady320.. I am murphthesurf3 there (real creative!)

murphthesurf3

I’d NEVER have guessed it was YOU…

choicelady

OK mon… I bookmarked it… i’ll still be harleigh.

Harleigh

Harleigh – always glad you’re Harleigh!

choicelady

LOL that’s why I luv you! I don’t have to pretend! LOL

Harleigh

Just be yourself I always say. Even when I’m adopting a pseudonym myself!

choicelady

Harleigh and churchlady320 – you all could really be an interesting leaven over there…..choice has my e mail..but one I share on line is

and if you contact me there I will give youo my real e mail at yahoo

murphthesurf3

I am even harleight holmes on facebook and all the sites I may wander into.

Harleigh

I’m letting Murph connect us Harleigh – I have some security issues, but it’s fine, Murph, if you put us each in touch.

choicelady

Ok that was confusing. Harleigh and churchlady320 – you all could really be an interesting leaven over there…..choice has my e mail..but one I share on line is

– if you use it I will then give you my yahoo.

murphthesurf3

I actually understood. Thanks!

choicelady

Harleigh I do not have facebook. Once the three of us are at Yabberz, we will figure out how to talk….

murphthesurf3

Good night, good friends.

murphthesurf3

Good night, Murph. I’m off to ‘lessons and carols’ tomorrow night. I hope you have something good to do, too.

choicelady

Choice..lessons and carols…are you Episcopalian? Me too.

murphthesurf3

yes I am episcopalaian too quit 53 years ago

Harleigh

nite guys

Harleigh

Technically, yes, but I also do UCC. Here they are two blocks apart. Lots of good songs of the season. Harleigh Merry Christmas to you, too!

choicelady

Good night, dear friends!

choicelady

I still rather like it. The accept my declare Christian Humanism vs. Credal Christianity.

murphthesurf3

And with that….good night for real. Murph

murphthesurf3

You can’t go too wrong these days with almost ANY mainline, progressive Protestants. I’m welcome in many churches.

choicelady

Good night, dear Murph. Merry Christmas!

choicelady

Because of the holidays and all they require us to do – wrapping gifts, last minute shopping, heavy partying (we did our best here) we are wrapping up early. To any who join us late, happiest of holidays to you however you celebrate them. See you next week we hope!

choicelady